Deputies report pot-growing operation
HARMONY TOWNSHIP Rock County sheriff’s deputies arrested a Harmony Township couple Nov. 8 after executing a search warrant at the home and reportedly finding evidence of a marijuana growing operation.
Arrested were Michael A. Schmidt, 55, of 4306 E. Milton Harmony Townline Road, Milton, on charges of manufacturing marijuana and keeping a drug house, and Debra M. Schmidt, 51, same address, on a charge of keeping a drug house.
Officers confiscated more than 2,800 grams of marijuana from three plants in a growing room, according to the sheriff’s department. They also reported finding smaller amounts of marijuana around the house—including in a Shop-Vac—as well as numerous items of drug paraphernalia.
Officers reported finding fertilizer, growing lights and other paraphernalia to grow the marijuana.
The sheriff’s department was alerted to the possible marijuana growing operation through an anonymous letter.
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Nov 26, 2007 at 3:08 p.m.
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Nov 26, 2007 at 1:50 p.m.
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Nov 26, 2007 at 1:42 p.m.
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My family is very proud of me!! Your family must be proud to have a hypocritical bible beater in the family. READ THE BIBLE THEN QUOTE IT!! and you are retarded do you know how many other man made chemicals go into crack? I have never done any drugs other than marijuana and like I said before I AM NOT A REGULAR MARIJUANA SMOKER, DONT READ WHAT YOU WANT AND THEN TWIST THINGS TO PROVE YOUR ARGUMENT JPD/SEABEE!!! ITS NOT WORKING.
Nov 26, 2007 at 1:35 p.m.
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You really need help my friend. If you've read anything I've said in here than you'd know I haven't smoked pot in 8 years nor have I been around it. My family doesn't do drugs. My father tried it 2 times when he as younger and hasn't touched it since and my mother and brother have never! My family is actually very uptight when it comes to drugs. They're kind of like Seabee (they all have huge sticks up their a**es). And I have to take back what I said in my previous post, you're sounding more along the lines of a Schizophrenic than someone who has Multiple Personality Disorder. Get a grip. You ain't right! Please, know one has to tell me that "ain't" isn't a word. I have a 4.0 GPA, I'm not stupid. It's just a little inside joke between my husband and I.
Nov 26, 2007 at 1:33 p.m.
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chafertepe cocaine is made from a plant too, so you must like crack!! Your not making your family proud. Im suprised no one in your family has scaled Everest yet.
Kids, Children!!
Don't forget to vote! (I seemed to have not finished that in my last one)
Nov 26, 2007 at 1:19 p.m.
Nov 26, 2007 at 1:17 p.m.
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JPD, if you would have really read all of my posts, I said I am not a regular pot smoker, and I have never smoked pot around my children, My parents never smoked pot, my family is very well known in the community(my maiden name!!!) I have an aunt who is a united states senator, I have a sister who is a police officer, My mother is a nurse. I was not brought up around drugs or alchohol, my grandmother was a lobbyist for the war on drugs. I do not think that pot should be put into the categories of other NACOTICS, you are really making asumptions about people, and if you are a person of God, then you should know you cannot judge others and you will not be the judge of me or others on here. And further more, are you aware that marijuana is a plant, thc is a natural chemical found within that plant, just like aloe vera plants produce aloe, please do not sit here and pretend like you are a godly person and then have the nerve to judge others. That my friend is a sin. Judge and ye shall be Judged!!!
Nov 26, 2007 at 12:52 p.m.
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JPD, if you're going to start something, you may want to take a remedial English course, first.
Nov 26, 2007 at 11:36 a.m.
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Trying to put the attention on others, classic criminal personality trait. You all need help. For your childrens sake. For the kids!! You all need to stop this cycle of drug use. I know your parents probably where addicts like you but you don't have to be get help please Im worried about your children, Your kids need you!! KIDS!!!!! Break the cycle now, KIDS, CHILDREN!! Im starting a Kids Children campaign to help stop drugies like you from ruining your children.
Just remember:
Kids, Children
God Bless America and don't to vote
Nov 26, 2007 at 11:29 a.m.
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JPD: There is help out there for people, like yourself, with Multiple Personality Disorder. And you don't have to feel ashamed...It's not your fault. It's a disease. It usually manifests itself after a traumatic event. People who have gone through a very traumatic event sometimes develope multiple personalities to help them deal/cope with things. There is help out there: therapy or drugs (the ones you can obtain legally), maybe a combination of the two. The sooner you get help the better. I'll be praying for you:)
Chafertepe: Don't come down too hard on JPD. He/she obvisiously needs help;)
Nov 26, 2007 at 11:16 a.m.
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Nov 26, 2007 at 8:44 a.m.
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Pandow77 just made the list too. You people should be ashamed of yourselves raising kids while your all high. The swift hand of justice will not be kind!! I think you should all check into rehab especially chafertepe. If she really loves her kids as much as she claims she will.
Nov 26, 2007 at 1:31 a.m.
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LMAO at you JPD....yes hafertepe is my last name and so what you cant do anything to me, I said I smoke pot that is not a crime...hahahahahaha. What an idiot...nobody is afraid of you!! LMAO
Nov 26, 2007 at 12:49 a.m.
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Bears54fan4life: Not that it matters but I like the Bears. When I was younger I fell in love the the "SuperBowl Shuffle" and have been a Bears fan since.
JPD: What the h*ll? Are you trying to make people think you're a cop? Give me a break... Why would a cop spend time reading what people post in here? Although, I suppose you could be... Cops do seem to have alot of time on their hands in between their doughnut/coffee breaks. That is so pathetic... Since I know alot of people who smoke pot can I get my name on your list too? Maybe you'll have to put Chafertepe and Bears54fan4life on America's Most Wanted so you can find out their true identities. What a joke!!!!
Nov 25, 2007 at 11:20 p.m.
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amen chafertepe, you make very valid point throughout this discussion (which i have been following). JPD you cant do anything to us for talking about smokeing pot even if you were able to find out who we really are. for starters even the website doesnt know who we are so you couldnt ask them, when we signed up all we gave was a user name so good luck finding us.
Nov 25, 2007 at 11:16 p.m.
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oh my god, i better quit talking somebody who wants me to believe he is a cop is taking my online name and going to arrest me for talking about smoking pot, i hope i dont get 30 years in prison. Hey jpd if you are really a cop, i have some ideas for you to write notes:1. learn how to investigate real crimes (such as the Lenzt murders!!) 2. Quit trying to make cases out of nothing and do some real police work. 3. and the most important one of all QUIT TRYING TO SEEM SCARY IT IS NOT WORKING!!!!
Nov 25, 2007 at 10:20 p.m.
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i made what list are you trying to intimidate people out of discussing their opinions. What are you going to do report us all to the police just because were all talking about what we think is right or wrong, its not like you can do anything to us for saying we smoke pot.
Nov 25, 2007 at 9:25 p.m.
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bears54fan4life, you just made the list. You to chafertepe.
Nov 25, 2007 at 9:13 p.m.
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thanks for the comment bearsfan4life i appreciate it when someone agrees with the few on here that think pot should be legal. And not that this has anything to do with the article, my dad is a huge bears fan!!!!
Nov 25, 2007 at 8:26 p.m.
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i smoke pot all the time and i am not messed up i get a 3.89 gpa and am ranked 49 in our class at high school i use it to relax after a wrestling practice or meet. I know the effects of smoking and am intelligent enough to make that decision. Pot and alcohol should be reversed alcohol should be illegal and pot should be legal. i think that alcohol kills more people than pot. far more people are killed in drunk driver accidents then stoned driver accidents. everyone should just lighten up on pot its not that bad
Nov 25, 2007 at 6:46 p.m.
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good please do jpd, it is not illegal to talk about smoking pot, so take all the notes that you want, nobody cares!!
Nov 25, 2007 at 6:16 p.m.
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Im taking notes hippies!!!!
Nov 25, 2007 at 2:19 p.m.
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Hey dartplayer, i am glad to see that you have no life, and can go from article to article reading what I write, I am not high right now and have not been high in months, Im glad that you can talk about me like you know me. It is people like you, that have our country so messed up right now. I am glad to see that when I die I will be judged by you. Your spouse must be the happiest person in the world to be married to you, I bet he has to smoke a BIG FATTY every morning to be able to deal with you!!!
Nov 25, 2007 at 2:11 p.m.
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LOL Chafertepe must have been the joint you smoked right before you got online, eh? I like the post that you tell kids to not drink and drive..ya smoke pot instead, right??!!
Nov 25, 2007 at 11:47 a.m.
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Oh and Blackirish, the cops can come and read all they want....it is illegal to posses it. The cops can come and get me all they want...for what because I am saying I smoke pot, I probably need a good attorney huh? Did I say I was smoking a big fat blunt right now, no dont think I did, so maybe you could write a letter to the JPD to come and get me because I said I smoke pot...uh oh there is a knock at the door, must be the men in blue!!!
Nov 25, 2007 at 11:30 a.m.
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yeah sorry i wrote on the wrong one disregard my comment everybody
Nov 25, 2007 at 11:29 a.m.
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Umm, this article has nothing to do with teachers.
Nov 25, 2007 at 11:08 a.m.
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Blackirish, if you want to quote everything I said do it right. I said that I have never smoked pot around my children, and I would never. So if you want to quote me quote the right comment that I made, otherwise quit talking bad about me. I may smoke pot once in awhile but that does not mean that I dont care about my children. How dare you make asumptions, and for the record the last time I checked this was the article about teachers not my personal life!
Nov 24, 2007 at 4:53 p.m.
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Pandow77, thanks at least there are some of us who can agree( they will all probably call us potheads) but at least there can be some civilized conversations in here!! Thanks so much for that comment!!!
Nov 24, 2007 at 3:29 p.m.
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Continued: I definately agree with Chaffertepe on being honest with kids about pot smoking when they are older. I have already told my 14 year old about what I have and have not done. I told him the good and bad. I usually end my converstations with him by saying "and that's why you shouldn't do it". The reason I am honest with him when he asks me is because his friends all talk about drugs and the school does and I wanted him to hear it from someone whose actually done it. He also knows that if he ever has any questions or concerns that he can come to me. My parents lied to me and told me that they never tried anything like that and never would. I didn't feel comfortable talking to them about anything like that until recently when I found out that my dad had tried pot a couple of times when he was younger.
Nov 24, 2007 at 3:16 p.m.
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Chafertepe: I agree with you. Pigbrain is definately being a little melodramatic with the whole "drugs breeding prostitution, violence, crimes, etc". I use to smoke pot and I am definately not into prostitution. Well, my husband does hand over his paychecks to me. I guess you could consider that prostitution:) Anyway, has anyone ever done acid? I actually did it about 4 times when I got out of highschool. My boyfriend at the time got me into it. Now that (along with cocaine) is a drug that should never be legalized! Those kinds of drugs can really mess a person up. Fortunately, I got rid of that boyfriend. He was a big time pot head (high in the morning, high in the afternoon and still stoned when he went to bed). I don't agree with having to be stoned 24/7 just to function. He was dumb as a rock and being stoned constantly didn't help much. It's just like drinking alcohol, you have to have enough self-discipline to be able to set limits for yourself. My husband has never even tried pot. He use to drink but decided that it was getting him into too much trouble so he rarely drinks now. Neither one of us uses drugs and we only have a couple drinks twice a year when we go out for a nice dinner but thats it. But it doesn't matter to me what anyone else chooses to do. If you wanna drink, go ahead (as long as your not driving) and if you wanna get stoned occassionally I see nothing wrong with that either. I don't understand how people in here can get so worked up over what someone else is doing as long as they aren't putting anyone else in danger.
Nov 24, 2007 at 12:25 p.m.
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i agree with you justice4all, i am not a regular pot smoker, and i am fully aware that it is illegal, i do smoke pot once in a while it is not to fill a whole in my life, you are absolutely right when you say pot kills brain cells, but i dont mean any disrespect to you when I say so does alchohol, and ciggarettes. I am not saying that everybody should smoke pot, however I dont think it is that big of a deal to smoke pot. I choose to smoke pot because I like it, thats it. Just like people that smoke like to smoke or they are addicted to it, just as someone who chooses to drink. Yes cigarettes are legal, as well as alchohol, however to say that people smoke pot because they have something missing is a very stupid statement, I dont mean to offend you in anyway. I just cant believe that in the 2007 there are so many judgemental people in this world.
Nov 24, 2007 at 12:09 p.m.
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I am amazed at how many of you think that there is nothing wrong with smoking pot, just because you think it is really "okay" to do so, or that it really shouldn't be illegal.
1. It is illegal
2. It does kill brain cells, if you have ever been around someone who has smoked it a long time you will know that.
3. Why do you "have" to take any kind of drug, or alcohol?
You people are starting to make me scared. We are quite the nation dependant on substances to make us "feel" better. What is the empty spot in your life that you have to fill it with those kind of things?
I happen to know this woman, and it is too bad, but she has done something that she knew was illegal.
Why do we feel it is okay because we don't agree with the law?
We are not above the law. When we start down that road we are capable of many things.
Nov 24, 2007 at 9:26 a.m.
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pigbrain i did read your last commnet, and do not aggree with you saying that pot smokers are couch commanders. First of all, I am sitting at my computer, second of all I am a mother of 3 children age 8 5 and almost 3. If I smoke pot it is maybe 2 or 3 times a year. I certainely have never smoked pot in front my kids, and would never. I dont however, think that when my kids are 15 or 16 I am going to lie to them about pot and say I never use it, why? They are going to find out anyway from there friends at school about pot. I am not a stupid person. I can respect people that dont smoke pot, in fact I can understand it if they choose not to, I however should be able to get respect just like anybody else who smokes pot. Just because we smoke pot, does not mean that we are poor wastes of life, because to be honest with you, I would rather be rather be around pot heads than drunks.
Nov 24, 2007 at 8:50 a.m.
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Re-read my last post concerning drugs and what they breed. I didn't say pot was solely responsible. I'm fully aware of the impact drugs have on communities, and I know pot is nothing compared to the hard drugs, (what potheads will do for their next bag) but it's still illegal. And yes, drugs (not pot alone) do breed all the aforementioned things, big picture.
Nov 24, 2007 at 8:15 a.m.
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oh and thanks for the comment dub, I am 25 years old and have never been arrested for any crime, I have smoked pot since I was 16 years old, and have never got into prostitution(well I dont think I have), never shot anybody, certainly never became a drug dealer. The point is that it is a ridiculous statement to put pot into the categories with crack, heroin and all the more dangerous drugs.!!!
Nov 24, 2007 at 8:08 a.m.
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I am not a person who smokes pot on a regular basis, however i do smoke pot once in a while. Do I think that they should legalize it ABSOLUTELY, pot has a lot of benefits. We could tax it like they are taxing ciggarettes. I do not think you should smoke pot around children, nor do I think that you should be stoned all the time. However just because people smoke pot does not mean that they are drains on society. If everybody knew all the people in our community that smoked pot, you would all be shocked how many high up people in our community are smoking pot!! I am not saying that everybody should go smoke a big fatty, because to be honest with you most of the people in here would be a major buzz kill!! But if I choose to smoke pot, that is my choice, not anybody elses to make for me. I am fully aware of the consequences and am not stupid. I know it is illegal, but there are a lot of things in this world that are way more dangerous than pot, and perfectly legal. Agree or disagree, the fact is people that dont smoke pot are quick to start name calling because they do not know of anything other than hostility to get there point across!!
Nov 24, 2007 at 8:08 a.m.
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I didn't know an anonomous letter was enough to get a search warrant. I have some neighbors I don't like. Does that mean I can get the cops to come and turn their house inside out looking for drugs that aren't there (or who knows, maybe they are!) just by writing a letter? Great! Got a stamp?
Nov 24, 2007 at 1:04 a.m.
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gabby06: You've got a point... I say if you want to smoke alittle weed, as long as your not hurting anyone, go right ahead (just don't get caught) and if you don't want to, don't. What the hell do I care....
Nov 24, 2007 at 12:51 a.m.
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How about everyone just stos this "dispute" about legalizing something that will never be? Every side has a good point but no matter what it is up to these people we elect for government. People are trying so hard to legalize it that the government is probably getting off and laughing at us for even trying! And you know what they are probably smoking a big fatty while they are discussing whether they are going to make it legal or not!
Nov 23, 2007 at 11:20 p.m.
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To the people in here that are convinced that pot kills brain cells and that they know of people who are or were heavy pot smokers and pot has taken it's toll on their bodies and minds... I totally agree, but I've also known alot of people (alcoholics) who have been affected by alcohol in the same way. There are people who only drink occassionally who don't have any lasting physical or mental impairments.... It all comes down to the way in which you use it.
Nov 23, 2007 at 10:54 p.m.
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pigbrain: Your comment "I don't believe the couch commanders on this site are violent or would wish harm on anyone, but I promise you that someone was hurt to some degree during the manufacturing and distribution process of the herb sitting next to you on the endtable as we speak." is probably very true but if Marijuana was legalized it could be manufactured and distributed in a controlled and safe setting/enviroment (like cigarettes and alcohol). It's the more harmful and addicting drugs, such as cocaine, that are the breeding grounds for violence, crimes, prostitution, etc. The way I see it is that the only way marijuana can control one's life is if one let's it (just like alcohol).
Nov 23, 2007 at 9:05 p.m.
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BlackIrish, they are.
All that conspiracy theory for nothing. The truth is, we fight the war on drugs because drugs breed prostitution, destroy homes, careers, neighborhood communities, cause gun crime, violence, murder and in short, destroy peoples' lives. Laws are put in place to protect the citizens of this country, to keep you safe to enjoy all this country has to offer. Drugs destroy that right for the innocent, therefore we enforce those laws. I don't believe the couch commanders on this site are violent or would wish harm on anyone, but I promise you that someone was hurt to some degree during the manufacturing and distribution process of the herb sitting next to you on the endtable as we speak.
Nov 23, 2007 at 4:17 p.m.
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I agree that alcohol is more destructive to the body and brain and should be outlawed entirely, but the fact is that it's legal and pot is not nor will it ever be. I also know several heavy users from the past who are now too stupid to hold a conversation, and one was an honor student and very gifted in everything, plus dealing with deadbeats on the job has proven to me that drugs will get the best of you. I see many more cases of drugs damaging peoples' bodies and brains, wrecking their marriages, causing them to lose their jobs and in general turning into complete losers than I do cases of people bettering themselves because of drug use. All these positive things this Miracle Plant can do for the human body is great, like EFA from the seed, I get mine from fish oil, which contains such a trace amount of saturated fat that I don't even include it into my daily sf intake, but it's nice to know pot seed oil contains the same EFA. But the thing is, all that stuff that can be made from the plant is legal. What is illegal is the whole plant, which is all you care about, BECAUSE IT GETS YOU HIGH. Which is what makes it illegal to possess. Your pro pot arguements are never going to change the legality of it.
Nov 23, 2007 at 3:36 p.m.
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People still say that pot causes brain damage. The drug warriors are intellectually dishonest - they quote people like Gabriel Nahas in pamphlets, because they know most people aren't going to bother to look it up and find out whether Nahas was a complete moron or not (which he was). Doing something like that is, in my eyes, just as bad as lying, so when the Drug Czar makes a claim on TV or in a newspaper that just isn't true, to me, it's just as bad as Clinton saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
If they came out and told the honest truth about marijuana, it would be legalized. They know this. They feel justified in lying because it's the only way to keep pot illegal. But if you like government sources, heres one for you:
In the late eighties, NORML (the pro-pot people) brought a lawsuit against the DEA, trying to get pot re-classified from a schedule I drug (along with cocaine and angel dust) to a class III drug (things like codeine). The DEA assigned a law judge named Francis Young to hear the case. It went on for two years. During the case, the judge heard thousands of hours of testimony from scientists, lawyers, doctors, policemen, and so forth, and he amassed something like 15 volumes of evidence.
Let me be clear - Francis Young was an employee of the DEA, so he wasn't exactly unbiased. After two years of hearing the best the pro-pot and anti-pot forces could muster, his recommendation was that pot be immediately decriminalized. How about some quotes? He called marijuana "the safest therapeutic drug known to man." Was he wrong? He also referred to marijuana as "safer than water." It sounds weird, but it's true. It's theoretically impossible to overdose on marijuana, and no one has ever died from it. Compare that to Aspirin, which kills a few dozen people every year, or to any other commonly used drug or medication. In fact, compare it to water - believe it or not, it's actually possible to die from drinking too much water, and every year, a few people die from it. Which is, of course, a few more than pot.
So how come pot wasn't decriminalized? Well, after Young presented his findings to the DEA, the DEA's response was: "um, we're not in charge of scheduling drugs, that's Health and Human Services' job." They passed the buck. Is this surprising? Not really. About every 20 years or so, the government appoints a task force to decide what to do about the "marijuana problem". Every time, they recommend decriminalization, and every time they are ignored. The first time I can find of this happening was with the British government in 1804. The most recent time was during the Reagan administration. He appointed a "Gold-ribbon task force" of lawyers, doctors, and cops, who also recommended that marijuana be decriminalized, and were also ignored.
Nov 23, 2007 at 2:15 p.m.
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Wow, just think of all the good you could do if you spent all that passion that you are wasting on defending your habit, on something like, oh, I don't know, helping the homeless, or getting involved in your kids school, promoting literacy, saving the environment, banning landmines, anything.
and, maybe ganja doesn't burn brain cells, im not a nuerologist, but It sure seems to slow them WAY down.
Nov 23, 2007 at 12:33 p.m.
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LOL Amen Seabee!!! I ran into a girl I went to high school with. She is still a daily pot smoker. You can't carry on a conversation with her for more than 3 mins. She can't concentrate any longer and keeps asking, "What were we talking about again?" It was sad, very sad!
She has lost her husband and children. She wrecked her Harley and also crashed her van over the last year.
Nov 23, 2007 at 12:06 p.m.
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Pot doesn't kill brain cells? Well, then there are ALOT of naturally stupid people out there whoose lives just coincidentally happen to revolve around smoking weed.
Nov 23, 2007 at 10:03 a.m.
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"Isn't it time to go mellow out and smoke some pot?"
...is it 10:00 already?
Nov 23, 2007 at 7:34 a.m.
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fldpan, I am not going to argue with you in this forum.
You want my answer? Read your messages.
Nov 23, 2007 at 2 a.m.
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Chafertepe if it is no one's business, why do you put your personal crap out there? You really make me laugh out loud! I just hope I never have to come in contact with you in the medical aspect. Isn't it time to go mellow out and smoke some pot?
Nov 22, 2007 at 11:02 p.m.
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Pot will never be legal. I think it's great that you can make rope and save all of mankind with this wonder plant, but couch commanders also like it because it gets you high, and for that reason, it will NEVER be legal. You're not fooling anybody, we know the only reason you want it legalized is to get high without getting pinched.
Nov 22, 2007 at 6:36 p.m.
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fldpan i think you're the new MVP of this board
Nov 22, 2007 at 10:55 a.m.
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Here we go... the hippies and burnout potheads trotting out the "pro-marijuana" propaganda.
If I thought there was anything positive about marijuana...I would have stayed with my ex-husband and had him continue spending the household money on pot and video games.
It's illegal no matter how you smoke it and I'll be glad to see anyone who growing it, buying it, selling it and smoking it get busted. I don't care if it makes rope and paper... I don't care if cures the gonaherpasyphilaids. I don't want it in my community.
Nov 21, 2007 at 2:56 p.m.
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Not that it is any of your business Dartplayer.....I have smoked pot like 2 times this year. I hope they give me a drug test too, because I will pass. While they are giving me a drug test maybe they could give you a personality!!!!
Nov 21, 2007 at 1 p.m.
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Chafertepe define regular pot smoking or smoking pot? I guess I don't see the difference. All I know is you are losing brain cells and work in the health care field. I hope they give you a random drug test!!
Nov 20, 2007 at 12:23 a.m.
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DUB190
Where in the world did you get your info at?
Cocaine is the class II drug you speak of...not crack. Crack is cocaine, but altered by the user or seller. You cannot get cocaine by prescription. As someone else said, it is very limited but used as a topical.
see the following link that describes difference between crack and crack cocaine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crack_cocai...
Nov 19, 2007 at 11:51 p.m.
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outrageous. this is america, the land of the free. How can any of you disagree with freedom?
Nov 19, 2007 at 6:50 p.m.
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they did this search because they believed the man was selling the pot, which he was not or else the charge would be much greater. Honestly, where's the harm in making pot for personal use? We should do something.
Nov 19, 2007 at 5:25 p.m.
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To theguyonthecouch: WELL PUT!
Nov 19, 2007 at 3:49 p.m.
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seabee: The problem with rights is everybody thinks they know what they are and will claim almost anything they do is justified because of their percieved rights. Along with rights come responsibilities. One of those responsibilities people have is to obey the law. Anti-drug laws do not infringe on your rights. Nobody has the right to do drugs, and I don't care if your talking about ganja, crack, coke, slam, smack et al
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The problem with the law is that some people think it's their responsibility to tell others what they can and can't do. The law is an invented set of rules, not actual right and wrong. Just because you break some laws doesn't mean you're evil or irresponsible, especially if you aren't hurting anyone but yourself. An intellectual like yourself should know that.
Nov 19, 2007 at 1:01 p.m.
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Like I said in my previous statement... I haven't smoked pot in eight years (basically quit because of the whole "illegal" thing) but I have to defend Chafertepe.
Outspoken: For crying out loud, just because she says she doesn't smoke it while caring for her children doesn't mean that she is smoking it out in public or at work for that matter! I'm 30 years old and I have four kids (3 months, 3 years, 5 years & 14 years). I smoked pot from age 20 to 22. Usually once every two weeks my mom would take my oldest son (who was 4 at the time) overnight to spend time with him (usually on a Friday or Saturday night). That is when I would smoke it because I didn't want to do it with him around and I didn't want to do it anywhere but at home (I was always paranoid about the whole "illegal" thing). How do you know she's not sitting at home and her kids are with their father or a grandparent? Maybe she's staying at a friends house. You don't know.
Nov 19, 2007 at 12:59 p.m.
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first of all, i never said i was a regular pot smoker, i said yes i smoke pot, i would never smoke pot at work, nor do i smoke pot around my children...soooo ooops my bad, im glad that you seem to know what you are talking about...have a nice day everybody!!!
Nov 19, 2007 at 11:47 a.m.
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I am just curious as to how crack is available by prescription. Are you referring to amphetamines?? If so, they are related, but not the same. As far as I am aware, crack is not available by prescription. Cocaine is available, but has a very limited medical use as a topical anesthetic. I could be wrong as I'm basing this purely on my 10 years of experience as a pharmacy technician.
Nov 19, 2007 at 10:45 a.m.
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I agree wth dartplayer07. when chafertepe does smoke pot, its not in front of her children. Then that would mean usually it would be smoked out with friends or at work, cuz the kids would not be there. But they did say that they work in the healthcare field, where a simple test would cost their job if caught.Ooops, my bad, they said they were much to smart to get caught...
Nov 19, 2007 at 10:34 a.m.
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Here I've been wasting all my time on the "Krystal" story. Ok, I think everyone in here needs to calm down. Go relax and smoke a joint. For the people that are so against smoking a plant may I suggest you pop a couple vicadin, percacet, valium, morphine, prozac or Tylenol with codiene. Just kidding, I would never tell anyone to take any of those LEGAL drugs (now those are very addicting).
Yes, pot is illegal... I'm sure we can all agree on that (none of us are idiots). But as others have stated, you never here of anyone being only on pot and going on killing sprees or anything. Why not? Because marijuana is a Mild Hallucinogen. When you're stoned the only thing you want to do is relax, munch on something and go to sleep. You also never here of people overdosing on marijuana and the health risks of smoking marijuana are the same as smoking cigarettes (increases the risk of cancer and can cause lung damage).
Until about 8 years ago I smoked pot occasionally (at home & alone on a Friday or Saturday night). It helped me relax, it helped get rid of my headaches and it helped me sleep. If I remember correctly I never felt the urge to steal money to buy more (like people who are on coke, crack, and heroin do), my life didn't revolve around my next "fix" (like your typical cokehead) and I never had any withdrawel symptoms when I quit (like you do when you are a cocaine addict, an alcoholic, etc). I'm not condoning drug use but if people are going to use any drugs, pot is ok with me. I'd personally would rather have someone sitting at home smoking a joint, scarfing down junk food and relaxing than someone sitting in a bar getting totally sh*t faced and smashing their car into someone else.
One more thing to add: To luluberry, I found your statement "It's because of stupid rednecks that think with their guns and not their heads that we have Bush in office in the first place" very, very, very offensive and disturbing. I PROUDLY married a "redneck" (chews, wears faded blue jeans, plain white T-shirts and cowboy boots (gotta love that), supports the NRA and loves to hunt) and both he and I are not fans of Bush or Republicans in general. In fact, I was a big fan of Clinton and I am all for Hillary getting in office. All of the "rednecks" I know can't stand Bush. Now my father and brother, who I definately wouldn't consider rednecks, are unfortanetly big Bush supporters.
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Nov 18, 2007 at 3:01 p.m.
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and what is that supposed to mean dart player, was anybody even talking to you? Dont come in here and start talking if you have nothing relavent to say to anybody okay?
Nov 18, 2007 at 11:48 a.m.
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Chafertepe writes: I am very educated and work in the healthcare field.
Please please please tell me you do not have contact with patients!
Nov 18, 2007 at 9:42 a.m.
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i am not closed minded....i am probably the least closed person you will ever have the pleasure of speaking with, i was just making the statement that our government lies to us citizens about sadam hussein, I was not saying that I suppot sadam hussein. I do not think that we need to be fighting in iraq, clearly they dont want us there. The point that I was trying to make was that yes, pot is illegal but there are far more dangerous things in this world than marijuana, that just happen to be legal!!!
Nov 17, 2007 at 2:36 p.m.
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okay first of all there sped..... sadaam husein did not teach them how to blow up the twin towers, that was osama bin laden, get your facts straight before you start calling me a traitor, when the un went looking for weapons of mass destruction THERE WAS NOT ANYTHING that is what I was saying, before you start calling me a traitor, for stating something you dont like...what a shock another right wing repulican trying to force his opinion on somebody!!!!!
Nov 17, 2007 at 12:32 p.m.
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Social Justice is just another term for taking from producers and giving to those that do not produce.
Nov 17, 2007 at 9:43 a.m.
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I do have 3 children, however I would never and have never smoke pot while caring for my children, i am not a regular pot smoker, i do however smoke pot once in a while, and would never do anything to endanger others. I am fully aware that pot is not the same a achohol, because achohol is legal and pot is not. My only argument is that as a healthcare professional who did go to school, the effects of achohol far out way the effects of pot, yes pot kills brain cells, however alchohol, literally kills your body over time, scerosis of the liver, is not only a horrible things also, there is alchohol related dimentia that will come into play for frequent alchohol abusers, not only does your liver basically die, it will also have to drained of fluid of your stomach because without the liver which is a filter for toxins and bile there is no where for it to go. with that being said I do not agree with people getting stoned in front of there children or talking about pot around them, I will say that I support my argument because it is my right to do so, if I get caught smoking pot that is a completely different story, then I will be held accountable, but trust me I wont be caught I am smart enough not to.
Nov 17, 2007 at 12:01 a.m.
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Helleo people, i'm no computer wizard or spelling bee champ so if you feel the need to rip on my lack of skills be my guest. thats not why these forums are here but some of you seem to think so. anyway you argue about acohol being legal and pot should be. drunks kill people not stoners.so do you think if we made pot legal and easier to obtain that some people would abuse the right to toke as they do the right to drink. then get on the road and start killing and maming like the drunks already do. then the arguement of who kills and who doesn't would be a mute point.there would just be more killers on the road
Nov 16, 2007 at 10:53 p.m.
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Pot is illegal and that's the bottom line whether you agree with it or not. When this couple decided to grow these plants they knew they were taking a risk. So now, they have to deal with the consequences.
I am not anti-pot or anti-drinking, but I hate when the pro-marijuana people justify the legalization of marijuana based on the fact that alcohol is legal. Do two wrongs make a right? We can't just start legalizing drugs because where would we draw the line? I am sure people could make arguments for the legalizations of other drugs as well.
I am not trying to judge anyone here, as long as you don't have children in your home and you aren't out driving around endangering others , I could care less what others do in their own homes.
Nov 16, 2007 at 8:02 p.m.
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My ex's father used to beat the hell out of his wife, but would only do it when he was high. But, that still has nothing to do with the issue, the issue is about two old people growing pot in their house, it has nothing to do with drinking.
Nov 16, 2007 at 5:59 p.m.
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The problem with rights is everybody thinks they know what they are and will claim almost anything they do is justified because of their percieved rights. Along with rights come responsibilities. One of those responsibilities people have is to obey the law. Anti-drug laws do not infringe on your rights. Nobody has the right to do drugs, and I don't care if your talking about ganja, crack, coke, slam, smack et al
Nov 16, 2007 at 4:56 p.m.
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This is ridiculous; everyone here is getting worked up over an article that doesn’t even have all the details. How do you know the police kicked in the door, or slashed up the couch or broke the vacuum? How do you know that the police didn’t have more evidence against this couple? Bottom line they broke the law, and they got caught. Yes, I too have broken the law in the past and if I would have gotten caught doing so, I wouldn’t sit there and complain about the police having better things to do. A couple of people brought up the Lentz murder, how would you feel if every officer in that station was only working on that case? We are not the ones in a position to determine which case gets worked on when.
Nov 16, 2007 at 4:21 p.m.
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Mirandee are you trying to tell me that there are more pot realated deaths in this country than homicides by drunk drivers, I would hope not because clearly you have been misinformed. So what if someone had 3 pot plants in there house, it does not affect you or me, yes I am aware that it is illegal, (which I do not agree with) however, there are alot of things in this country that are illegal and not everybody is a 100% law abiding citizen. Im sorry if you dont agree with my opinion, but that's just the way that it is. I can respect your opionion as well!!!
Nov 16, 2007 at 4:14 p.m.
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I would never push my ideas about pot on kids, i dont think kids should smoke pot. But if they do so, that is there choice just like it is your choice not to...Im sorry if I offended you that was not my intention. Have a nice day
Nov 16, 2007 at 4:12 p.m.
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MajorMojo, your kids are gonna smoke pot whether or not we talk about it, call it a right of passage. now... Would you rather have your kid get stoned and fall asleep or get drunk, jump in his big old truck that we all know you will buy him, and run down a family of five??? I think you would go with the pot.
Nov 16, 2007 at 4:12 p.m.
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ok so you say 3 plants wasnt worth the time? those 3 plants will only grow then you will have a field like the 2 found in darien. all those drugs have to start somewhere. and so people dont get killed by potsmokers driving but what about drug deals gone bad and people being shot?
Nov 16, 2007 at 4:11 p.m.
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luluberry, how long did it take you to get here, out of left field, I mean.
Nov 16, 2007 at 4:11 p.m.
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fldpan, you make some good points
Nov 16, 2007 at 4:09 p.m.
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chafertepe, I am not ofended by your opinion. I just do not like people like you pushing the acceptance (maybe even promotion) of pot to my kids, that all.
Nov 16, 2007 at 4:07 p.m.
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It's because of stupid rednecks that think with their guns and not their heads that we have Bush in office in the first place... Ten to one, most of them have DUI's
Nov 16, 2007 at 4:03 p.m.
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Apparently people really take offense to people's opionion's in here!!!! Lets all smoke a fatty and calm down!!!
Nov 16, 2007 at 4:02 p.m.
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That's it. I'm flagging everyone! LOL
Alright, admit it, who's going whining to the paper?
Nov 16, 2007 at 3:58 p.m.
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Are you serious MajorMoron? I am very educated and work in the healthcare field. I am not saying that pot is not illegal but for you to call out my character because you dont like my opionion, that is exactly the kind of rednecks we should not have running our country!!! And it is uptight arrogant people such as yourself, who think you are all high and mighty because you dont smoke pot, good for you, I can respect that, but then respect my beleifs, even if you dont agree with them!!!
Nov 16, 2007 at 3:54 p.m.
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chafertepe, it is you pot heads that corrupt the gene pool, now, get out of the water.
Nov 16, 2007 at 3:53 p.m.
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I am fully aware that pot is illegal, but so is drinking and driving and how many people are killed everyday by drunks who do not have the respect for anybody, not even themselves, to stay home and drink, but yet achohol is legal. Have you ever heard of someone being killed by a pothead driver....I certainly have not. There are lot more people that come into the hospital hurt by drunks...lets just think about that...but yet im uneducated...you 100% just proved my point that I was trying to make about the Bust Administration. It is okay for our government to put us into a war that we clearly do not need to be in, but yet im a hippy because I think police have better things to do with their time, then sniffing out 3 pot plants!!!!
Nov 16, 2007 at 3:45 p.m.
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If someone thinks we are going to become a police state they must really be a stoner and paranoid as all hell!
Nov 16, 2007 at 3:41 p.m.
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Im glad that Seabea and his brother/uncle figured out how to turn on there computers. Must have been a good day in trailer park!! Once again uptight republicans start talking about pot, like it is the same as achohol, call me uneducated, call me a hippy, at least I know what I stand for and what I believe in!!!!!
Nov 16, 2007 at 3:34 p.m.
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Thank-you.
Nov 16, 2007 at 3:33 p.m.
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seabea, I agree with you 100%
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Nov 16, 2007 at 3:25 p.m.
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Once again Seabea the redneck, is showing how intelligent he is. I was just saying that I find it hard to believe that our "police officers" dont have anything better to do than knock on somebody's door for 3 pot plants, but yet they still have not charged the man who they believe killed the Lentz family. Call me a hippy all day long Seabea....I dont care. Happy Thanksgiving
Nov 16, 2007 at 3:17 p.m.
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China = police state, Cuba = Police state, Russia = going back to police state, Venezuela = becoming a police state. Pakistan = pretty much a police state. America? not even on the same hemispere. If you are so worried, I suggest you shut your computer off now. George Bush will probably be sending the F.B.I. shortly to take you for interrogation and reprogramming.
Nov 16, 2007 at 3:06 p.m.
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That's over 6 lbs. of plant. And they executed a search warrant, they did not bust down the door and destroy the home, you're referring to a no-knock warrant, which is different. And no, a tip from someone in the form of a letter on its own would not show PC to obtain a warrant, an investigation would have been conducted which would have included as evidence said letter. And they found what inside the home? And was what was found legal to possess? All 6 lbs.? If we were able to find a cure for addictions, half the police officers would be let go and prisons would be at 30% capacity. Since alcohol is legal, even though it shouldn't be, we target drugs. Drugs are the root cause of many crimes. Just because the local potheads are only wasting their lives and not out hurting people, that doesn't mean people aren't hurt during the course of getting the drugs manufactured/delivered to the consumer. Look at the big picture.
Nov 16, 2007 at 3:05 p.m.
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What this was is someone knew about it and got busted, so he turned in this "Anon Letter" to get himself a reduced charge. The failed war on drugs costs this country 1 billion a year in tax $ for so little outcome, big $ for a small time user and small time charges.
Nov 16, 2007 at 2:15 p.m.
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Hmmmm...who's the stoner? You know what happens when you ASSume.
I tried pot back in the 80's ONCE and never again. I do no illegal drugs. I didn't mention Bush or WMD's. Seems to me you have a problem with other people having opinions.
My point was that sometimes the police use overkill.
Don't like my opinion, too bad. I think name-calling is so 8-th grade.
Nov 16, 2007 at 2:01 p.m.
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Some people have opinions that just shouldn't be shared.
Nov 16, 2007 at 2 p.m.
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Here come the stoners, out to defend their illegal habits with accusations of cops breaking down doors, existence of a police state, and oh, lets not forget the Bush bashing and weapons of mass destruction LMFAO! Typical hippy liberal attempts to justify their moral depravity with ad hominem attacks and red herrings.
Nov 16, 2007 at 12:37 p.m.
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There was a bust in Beloit a few weeks ago. The police were staging their vans, mobile 5th wheel trailer (command post), etc. You could hear the concussion grenades for blocks. What did all that manpower yield? Maybe two charges for a small amount of dope.
I'm not saying it's not illegal, but when we have people out there robbing, raping, driving drunk, and yes, an unsolved triple homocide, you wonder where the priorities are.
Nov 16, 2007 at 12:28 p.m.
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there are alot of thing illegal in this country however people continue to do it. Like a president lying to his country about Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, when clearly it was about his short comings as well as his father's when it comes to Sadam Hussein!! Kudos to the men in blue for finding 3 pot plants Im glad our tax dollars are going for that and not the investigation into the Lentz murders!!! Bravo
Nov 16, 2007 at 12:16 p.m.
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Isn't any one else worried that all it takes for a bunch of cops to break down your door and search your home is an ANONYMOUS letter? So anyone can write a letter accusing anyone of a grow operation and the next thing you know your couch is getting slashed and your vacuums broken?
That really, really sucks. I mean, I have fertilizer too- for my tomatoes- but if an anal fissure sees it and thinks I look tired that day I can expect a visit from the boys in blue?
Scary! Police state indeed!
Nov 16, 2007 at 11:58 a.m.
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no matter how its described, marijuana is illegal in wisconsin in any amount.kudos to the letter writer!
Nov 16, 2007 at 10:20 a.m.
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Three plants....oh my! What if this person is just using the drug for medicinal purposes? Some nosey person decides to become a 'tattle'-tail'.