Simon and Mr bread This is one exapmle of the things I have run into with teachers. I can not put on here all the others but there are many. I have many friend with the same story's I have friends who teach in the district who when you tell them who the teacher is they roll there eye and say no wonder. Simon this shows how smart you are reread what I wrote the teacher refused to look at his work when he offerd to show it to her. How did he lie to me the teacher told me herself that she refused to look at it. He was done with the work he is in her class last hour of the day they get out of school at 3:20 PM she called at 3:25 or so my son was home at 3:35 if you know about traffic thats about right. So when he came in the house and I asked about it, he pulled it out and showed me.It was done how did he lie to meor the teacher simon don't you dare say my child lied to me, or to his teacher, how did he lie to her when she refused to look at it. How did he disrespect her when all he was doing was reading a textbook when he was done with her assignment. Simon some kids at that school are smarter than the teacher and before you go saying he should take hareder classes this is an AP Class you can't get a hareder class. Simon you need to be albe to understand what you read.

And she said he showed her that he was done with it when he got home.
The teacher didn't bother to ask to see if it was done or not.
So now do we find people guilty by assumption?

"she said that he told her that he was done with the work" - there you go!

Help me out here simon... where did you see in rcg61's post that her son lied to his teacher?
And if the teacher had a problem with a student reading another text book in that class, if what rcg said is correct, that teacher could use a crash course in communications 101.

rcg61 - so your son lies to the teacher about being finished with his work, disrespects the teacher and his/her plans for the class period, should have studied for his test on his own time...and this is the teacher's fault. You are what's wrong with education!

rcg61, your right, so lets bash all teachers. One time, I got pulled over for speeding 2 miles over the speed limit, all police officers are bad. This one time I went to get my groceries bagged, and he asked me do you want paper or plastic and he gave me plastic, and I was like I wanted paper, and he was like if you don't specify then you get plastic and I was like this is ridiculous I want paper, and he was like I been bagging groceries for 1 year, and I was like ... All grocery baggers and police officers stink. They ought to pay them based on how well they bag or write tickets. Just think if one experience peppered your view of the world and the people in it, wouldn't that suck?

Ok here is something else to consider how about teachers being held to a merit base pay, and retention system like alot of us in the real world. You say that year round school is in the best interest of the student then having the best teachers is part of that. Example I had a conversation with a high school teacher about my child. She was upset with my sons actions in her class. i asked what he had done as I was suprised because he is a Sr. a B ave. student who has never been in trouble. He opened a text book for another class in her room to study for a test. I said why did he do that as he was not home yet to ask. She said she had give him an assignment that would take two days to complete and rather than work on that he chose to study for another class. I asked if she said anything to him and she said that he told her that he was done with the work so he thought he would read his textbook so he wouldn't disturb the rest of the class. She said there was no way he could be done in the 15 min. that it had been. I asked if she asked to see the work she said no it's not due until tommrow. I said well if you had looked and seen if it was done then this wouldn't be an issue. She then told me that she didn't go to college for four years to be disrspected by a student reading another textbook in her class. i said then if he was done what do you want him to do and she said in the future if he gets done early he can just sit there no reading another textbook in her class. I told her I thought that was ridiculous but if thats what she wants fine. When my son came home we talked about this he showed me his work and it was done and done right. He said that it was a simple assignment for him and she was upset because he was able to do it so quickly. I find this type of attitude in a teacher ridiculous.

wahoo: What do you mean this works well for teachers? Studies on year-round school has shown increased retention in students when there are shorter breaks. It does not benefit teachers one way or the other.
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This is not very beneficial to people with "normal jobs"? It gives you more options as to when to take the vacation. You are not pigeoned holes into only one part of the year when children are not in school.
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What makes you think it would be harder for employers? When so many employees want their vacation during the summer because their kids have off, the employers have to try to schedule many vacations and still keep a decent work force. If employees were willing to look at other options (point being willing, which it doesn't sound like you are), then scheduling becomes less hectic.
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Year-round school has absolutely NOTHING to do with teachers concern for themselves. Perhaps you need to do some further research on the educational benefits of year-round school. That IS why our children go to school, to get a great education, right???

I disagree with doglover. This plan may work well for teachers, but for people with normal jobs, who don't get five weeks off over the summer. Most people like to take vactions in the summer months, it would be harder for employers, because many people would be unhappy with having to take a vaction later in the year. Just seems like the teachers being more concerned with themselves.

nice to see that the school board is using our tax quarters for something besides bricks and mortar.

Time for the JSD to lay the groundwork for a 12 month teacher contract.

doglover i agree with you and i think that school all year would be very beneficial to children these days in many aspects.

If you are considering what is in the best interest of students, educationally speaking, they have way too much time off during the summer. When there is too much time off, students begin to lose ground of what they learned from the previous year. In the 12 years of teaching experience that I have, I can spend the first 4-6 weeks reviewing material that was taught the previous year instead of getting down to the curriculum at hand for that year.

The "year-round" school concept is a far better way for students to retain the knowledge that was gained from year to year. They still go no more than the 180 days that they always have. It is just divided out differently with a 3 week break in the fall, a 2 week break in the winter, a 2-3 week break in the spring, and summer break is typically about 5 weeks long.

I'm sure that the JEA had the students educational needs in their planning as they understand this concept of knowledge retention. A long summer vacation is not always in the educational interest for our young people.

And for those of you who are about to say it was just fine for you as a kid, the educational expectations have increased greatly over the years. Students are being expected to learn a lot more in elementary, middle and high school than we had too.

And for those who are going to through out "what about family vacations", you would have four breaks of at least 2 weeks to choose for your family vacation. I would think it would be easier for employers so they aren't trying to schedule most employees time off over the traditional summer break and they could be dispersed better over the four different times off.

My guess is the chance of this happening in Janesville is very slim as I have noticed that the idea of change gets bulldozed over by way to many people.

Kudos to the JEA for keeping the students educational interests at heart.

Nevermind...April 12 and May 3.

By the way, have the Saturdays been "officially" announced?

what's up with the teachers union.. The kids don't need extra days off during the school year. Alot of people pla vacations after school now they have to wait an extra week. What were they thinking. The kids have way too much time off as it is during the school year. What next?.....

danias,
Schools have to be in session both a certain number of minutes per year, and a certain number of days per year. Elementary schools end earlier in the day (so the little kids aren't around when the big kids get out of school). The elementary schools are making up additional minutes that the middle/high schools will have already met, due to their longer days. All schools also have to go on Saturdays to make up the "days" requirement, even though the days will be short for the middle/high schools.

Or blocks of cheese.

At least we aren't flipping cow chips anymore......

Nice to see that Wisconsin is still employing the latest scientific technology in its decision making processes.

I think they should start school the day after labor day. Also have some snow days set aside just in case. I wanted to know but it seems like nobody knows why elementary kids are in school longer on saturday than the middle and high school kids can anyone answer this question for me?

I just hope they make room for snow days this time around.