There is no "libeling" being done here. DO not copy and paste anything that you didn't write without citing it first. "Anyone with an education" (from your earlier post) would know better. You scream of morals and values throughout your posts, yet you're nothing but a thief who steals other peoples work because you're incapable of any form of original thought.
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And don't flatter yourself. Just because I do my OWN research and looked into your idiotic posts and found that you're a plaguarist. You're the one who stole someone elses work and tried to pawn it off as your own...

Do not libel me WannabeKennedy. Or should I say Zoom...
I didn't realize I forgot to cite the source. Anyone with any education would know its source.

Ooh you must either really like me or really not like me. You are looking up all my posts huh? Is that all you got?

CRAFTY:
In response to your 12/13 comment: DON"T COPY AND PASTE MATERIAL YOU DIDN'T WRITE WITHOUT CITING IT. It is CHEAP and ILLEGAL. DON'T USE OTHERS WORK AND COPY IT AS YOUR OWN. HAVE YOU NO PRIDE?

good post nurse. that was 'the marijuana tax stamp act of 1937'. that was what originally 'prohibited' marijauna until it was ruled unconstitutional in 1969, because as nurse points out, you had to already possess/grow marijuana to get a tax stamp, so basically you had to break the law to make the law. pot was then criminalized with the controlled substances act of 1970. it was labeled a schedule I narcotic, which states it has 'high risk of abuse' and 'no known medical uses'. both which we KNOW are horse dookie.

stoner nation is behind the medical marijuana movement. you dont think theres really enough medical users to get 13 states to pass laws do you?? the more medical states we get the closer we are to full legalization. i thought you knew that gfan?? and thanx for callin me a stereotyper and then not answering my direct question as to who i was stereotyping. typical 12 year old gfan discussion.

crafty- Let's take it to the next level. I watched on the History channel that marijuana was legal until Mexican immigrants began making money off the substance during the depression era. Many people who hadn't any income became outraged. Congress than enacted a law that stated there you had to have a permit to have marijuana but it was a weird law in that you could not have the marijuana before the permit but you needed to have it with you in order to get the permit..Also Congress stated that Marijuana was outlawed because there was not any proven medicinal properties that marijuana had. Mayor LaGuardia of New York in 1944 spent millions to prove that there were medicinal properties from the marijuana plant.The LaGuardia Marijuana Committee of 1944.
Interesting, huh?

crafty, after all these years, why hasn't stoner nation managed to get pot legalized like the smoking ban people have caused smoking bans to be enacted all over the country? Is it because pot heads are too busy looking for their car keys?

Please try to answer the question without a paranoid explanation.

Again, the absence of a juggernaut to legalize pot is a mirror of how pot effects pot heads.

*clapping* bravo...bravo....

Here's some facts. The history of marijuana goes back as far as humans learned to cultivate crops. Thousands of years ago, there were people weaving hemp for useful purposes and at the same time, they were working with metal and making pottery. The cannabis plant has been with man for several millennia.
Early evidence of hemp, processed cannabis fiber, use is traced to the Yang-Sho culture of China, which traces back to around 4500 B.C. They used the fiber to make rope, nets and clothing. Archaeologist also speculate that the earliest woven fabrics may have been made from hemp fibers in-between 8000 and 7000 BC.

It is not uncommon for early Western literature to make reference to marijuana. When Homer created the Iliad, he spoke of a drug taken to Troy by Helen that, as it was described, sounded like marijuana. An American physician, Dr. Robert P. Walton has found passages from many manuscripts with marijuana references in them, such as Pliny’s The Arabian Nights, books by Herodotus, Marco Polo and other writers that also indicate that the marijuana plant was cultivated in ancient times for purposes other than making rope and textiles.

Before 1883, there were no laws on the federal level, banning the uses, possession, manufacture, or sale of drugs. Marijuana and other drugs were available to the Native Americans before the Pilgrims arrived and in the “new world” and there were no drug restrictions whatsoever. The sails and ropes on Columbus’ ships all had sails and ropes made of hemp and as well were the sails and ropes of the pilgrims’ ship, the Mayflower. In 1620, as the Mayflower landed in America, the English had grown marijuana for almost a decade, for the settlers of Jamestown brought marijuana with them to Virginia in 1611, because of its hemp fiber. Many books, Bibles, and maps were made of hemp, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson grew crops of hemp, and in 1640, the governor of Connecticut declared that ‘every citizen must grow the plant,’ because it was badly need for its fiber content.

Marijuana was used in colonial America as a painkiller. There were not many sedatives in colonies, so George Washington, which had dental problems his entire life, grew marijuana and was concerned about the medical use of marijuana. In his journal, some of his writing showed his concern over when to harvest his marijuana plants to get the best resin for making the hashish. Hashish is a paste that is taken from cannabis plants and can be smoked in pipes or eaten.
With America’s roots deep in marijuana production, people had favorable opinions of the substance. One may recognize some of the names of today’s pharmaceutical companies that marketed hemp extract in the second half of the 1800’s, such as Lilly, Parke Davis, Squibb, and Burroughs Wellcome. In 1851, the United States Dispensatory reported that the extract of hemp was recommended for helping a multiple of diseases.
WHY IS HEMP ILLEGAL? MONEY.

Someone wrote, "Not to mention weed has acceptably American Indian roots and was socialy acceptable before the white man took over the country."

Actually it has no North American roots at all, for it is a plant that came from Asia. It did not exist here pre-European. Sorry, facts get in the way sometimes, don't they?

I second that "WOW" and add an "WTF?"

Obama smoked pot and did cocaine.

Bill Clinton smoked pot. George Bush smoked a LOT of pot and look at those losers living in their mothers' basements...err wait.

"Marijuana was outlawed in 30 states by 1930. ...it was outlawed because of fears that heroin addiction would lead to the use of marijuana - exactly the opposite of the modern "gateway" [theory]" myth."http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/mj_outlawed.htm

I have decided to revert back to the medical consencus of 70 years ago. Thank god I only mainline heroin! LABOTOMY ANYONE???

WOW.

foot on the hill says "Because historically, in our country, the rationale for whether or not any particular intoxicant is socially acceptable --i.e., legal-- is based solely on the racial and ethnic background of those who favor its use. In other words, unlike illegal drugs, alcohol has acceptably European roots."
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Well dear one the so called 'demon weed' was created by God, no need for man to add ingredients and brew, like crack/meth/herion. Not to mention weed has acceptably American Indian roots and was socialy acceptable before the white man took over the country.

please do tell gfan who im stereotyping??

Repealing any law that doesn't clearly identify the "victim" would be a good start. The only problem is, our lawmakers would be so busy repealing volumes of old irrational laws they'd have no time left to draft any new laws. OK... maybe this isn't a problem.

Racism indeed, thekid, look in the mirror. Talk about stereotyping people.

ahhhh the racism point. well said fool. i dont think weve ever discussed that point on here...but make no mistake the original marijuana 'prohibition' was enacted to control the mexicans who were bringing marihauna across the border and the blacks, especially the jazz scene in new orleans, who were smoking it. ANY LAW BASED ON RACE AND MISINFORMATION NEEDS TO BE REPEALED ASAP.

thekid3477 asks, "why can you chose to consume your choice of intoxicant responsibly and legally but i cant??"
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Because historically, in our country, the rationale for whether or not any particular intoxicant is socially acceptable --i.e., legal-- is based solely on the racial and ethnic background of those who favor its use. In other words, unlike illegal drugs, alcohol has acceptably European roots.

rusty..., that wasn't the ending of Easy Rider. See it, it's a good late sixties movie. As a matter of fact, it was the movie that paved the way for successful independent movies.

great post dub and EXCELLENT follow up kraut. you two are my new heros:)

thekid, if you claim I'm not listening then you're not listening. By the way, doesn't being in sales really mean you tell people what they want to hear whether it's true or not?!

A lot of people want to do a lot of strange things but the people by way of the government say: No!

And, dub, even if that stuff about hemp is true, it doesn't have anything to do with getting wacky smoking the demon-weed.

im not talking about teens and children. im talking about RESPONSIBLE adults. and if im free to chose an intoxicant that kills, i should be able to chose one that doesnt. im GOOD in sales gfan...not cuz i know how to talk...but rather cuz i know how to listen...something you apparently have no grasp of...peace im out...

With freedom becomes responsibility. Freedom doesn't mean you can just do what ever you want. This is what makes childhood and the teenage years so difficult for youngsters and parents.

i have an extremely sharp memory. i understand, listen to me again, i UNDERSTAND why the anti-potters and even uncle sam see the havoc alcohol is creating on our society and ask 'why more'. but what you fail to understand apparently, is my perspective. and pot smokers everywhere. we have rights. we pay taxes. we vote. we are supposedly 'free' americans. why can you chose to consume your choice of intoxicant responsibly and legally but i cant??

Don't feed into the stereotype by saying you don't remember.

If alcohol is as bad as you say, why would the public and the government want to aggravate the problem by legalizing another drug that makes people goofy?!

if you had made a single logical point as to why one intoxicant, that kills thousands every year, is legal, and a similar intoxicant that doesnt kill and actually medicates, is illegal id have remembered that post. im not sayin there arent reasons it should be illegal, but for ANY reason you or any anti-potter has, i WILL continue to point out the hypocrisy in the legal 'eviler of two evils' and tobacco and that leaves pretty much any reason for pot remaining illegal dead in the water.

I'm happy to know you're willing to learn. But to avoid REPEATING myself, I'll suggest that you go back and read all my posts on the matter!!!

so why is one legal and not the other??

That's fair, thekid. I shouldn't characterize pot by what's in movies.

Alcohol and pot are both depressants. But that doesn't mean both drugs depress people in the negative sense, at least not all the time.

As depressants both drugs depress inhibitions, which is a good thing, but not all the time.

Spark - how much do you think it costs tax payers to pay these people?

"The top 10 percent of police and detective supervisors earned more than $90,070 in 2002. The lowest 10 percent made less than $36,340. The middle two quartiles made between $47,210 and $74,610. Median annual salaries at the local level were $59,830; State government, $64,410; and Federal government, $78,230."
according to http://www.careeroverview.com/police-car...

You can add $20 or so per hour for health insurance, long term, short term dis. pension... Many officers are able to retire after 20-25 years and tax payers are responsible for the full pension of all of these people...

Where is this money coming from? WI is currently in it's worst budget deficit in state history according to the AP. Perhaps you're willing to fund this "covert operation" to catch some kids selling weed. I wouldn't be surprised if the cost was twice that of my estimate.

i fear its MOVIES like that that have created the basis for you opinions regarding marijuana. Reefer Madness anyone...

true. and legal means cheaper. alcohol is a depressant gfan...you know that. the odds of a TRULY happy drunk are just about nil.

Sounds like a stretch, thekid. People'll would eat weed if it was cheaper!!!

Me smoke weed?! "I got enough trouble with the booooze."

The quote is from Jack Nicholson (George) in Easy Rider.

George is a happy drunk until two drug-dealing biker hippies come along and coax him into smoking pot. He promptly gets forgetful and paranoid about the government and creatures from outer-space. Later that night instead of being rip-roaring drunk he is in a pot induced somnolent state and is beat to death by two rednecks.

Smoke pot? No thanks.

i do lots of yoga gfan. nothin more relaxing than catchin a buzz an hittin the mat. im not jokin at all. peeps dont make food now cuz of the market value they pay to much to risk cooking it. make no mistake companys WILL market cannabis cookies, brownies, tea, peanut butter, butter, oil. theres a ton of dift ways to cook it. i serioulsy have a batch of cookies now and the buzz is better, lasts longer, its actually more managable(or easier to monitor dosage), and again....IMPOSSIBLE TO OVERDOSE ON. if the buzz is better without inhaling smoke what do you think peeps will chose?? you still havent explained to me, if im wrong, what pot is??

Why would people eat weed and not smoke it if legal? That's not the practice now? C'mon, you're just making stuff up. Right? Have you considered Yoga?

yer mistaken gfan. the weed is not toxic. the smoke is. as i said before peeps WILL eat it before smoking if legal. ive got a batch of 'cookies' now that id be happy to share w ya:) any kid could eat as much pot as humanly possible and NOT overdose. you cant say the same thing about the 'eviler of two evils' or even a pack of cigs for that matter.

explain to me what pot is then gfan...please??

The problem with your reasoning (even if it is sound) is that it doesn't change what pot is.

And you keep sidestepping how THC is delivered to the system, by way of smoking a toxic weed. The grass (heh, heh) roots and massive wave against smoking any thing of any kind will not allow the legalization of a new substance to be smoked.

but you get my point. ALL yer friends are the exception to the rule ok:) MOST people find alcohol before pot. most people find nicotine before alcohol. most people are exposed to caffeine before nicotine. ALL PHYSICALLY ADDICTING DRUGS AND ALL LEGAL. im not sayin pot isnt technically a 'gateway' drug. im saying if pot is, then EVERY drug is technically a 'gateway' drug. you cant climb halfway up the ladder and start blaming.

I'm going to donate my liver to science, along with some onions.

Kid - they smoked pot before they drank. Was easier to hide.

curlysue i think yer cute:)
spark: i dont think curlysue is advocating driving while high, i dont know any one that does, shes just pointing out that you dont see the same storys you see with the 'eviler of two evils' which is completely legal. legalizing marijauna wont give the drug dealers jobs, it will actually put them out of business. who would buy from a dealer if they can get a pack at the local store?? how many al capones have been employed since we ended the senseless alcohol prohibition?? the medical side. you are more than correct, it is a way for us to justify smoking pot. i think if we actually have to debate on the potential medical use of smoking pot...there should be NO debate on whether a responsible tax paying adult citizen in these 'free' united states of america can smoke a little pot. as for the smoke being unhealty...yes but tobaccos legal and theres no debate to whether that kills...plus if legal more peeps would eat it than smoke it. so 'everyone you knew' who started with pot went on to 'bigger and better' drugs?? the next statement you say everyone you know also drinks. are you sure they didnt start with alcohol and get bored before moving on to pot?? your 'gateway' theory is dead in the water if all your friends drank first...

curlysue, alcohol can be detected with a breathalyzer. What may be redeeming about pot is that stoners usually can't find their car keys.

fromjanesville2waukesha - $55 an hour for a detective? $114,400 a year? I don't know any detective or law enforcement person that makes that much and I know some personally. Where is your information coming from?

curly sue- EVERY person I know that smokes pot, drinks too. I also have to laugh about your theory with driving and pot. Being on any controlled substance while driving is stupid and wrong. Like anyone else, I've seen people stoned out of their minds and there's no way they could concentrate on driving. That argument is dead in the water.

Some of you are really missing something here. It wasn't just pot. It was cocaine and other substances. Those of you that smoke pot and want it legal will always try and come up with comparisons and theories, etc. to plead your case. You use the medical reasoning, etc. but most of you aren't using it for medical reasons. You're using it to get stoned. The medical reason is an option for you to push your habit to become legal. Smoking anything, is not good for you. Period. Whether it gets you stoned or not. Creating millions of jobs by legalizing marijuana? For who, the drug dealers? You say it will be controlled. How the hell are you going to do that? Just what society needs is more bad habits. They're already putting smoking bans everywhere for just cigarettes. Yes, drinking too much isn't good for you either. Drinking and driving isn't either. If you get caught drinking and driving, you pay the consequences. If you get caught selling using or selling drugs, you pay the consequences too. How ironic that this story has not only marijuana mentioned, but cocaine and other drugs. Just like everyone I ever knew that started out smoking pot. They got bored with it and moved on to bigger and better drugs. Sad.

mrscott- you mean only AFTER they have been convicted. Also please tell me why schools don't throw out students that have been convicted of driving drunk which is also illegal. Why does society look the other way when it's alcohol - a man made drug - but freak out when it's a God made drug?

gazettefan- I disagree. I know for a fact not all so called stoners drink alcohol. Not to mention they CAN tell if someone has been smoking pot. A simple pee or blood test can determine that. I'd like someone to prove to me that a driver killed someone while only high on pot.

etown - drug conviction = no more school period. You won't get admitted to most schools with a drug conviction. UWW will boot them immediately.

drug conviction, no more student aid

curly...., that's because contrary to the rosy hippie picture thekid wants to paint about stoners, stoners are also jacked on juice. When they get busted it's the juice that is detectable.

I agree with thekid. How many headlines do you read "Driver high on weed kills another driver"? Yet everyday in the great state of WI some idiot kills someone else while drunk. Oh but I forgot thats acceptable.

5 detectives working this case 10 hrs. per week each for 40 weeks @ $55/hr. including benifits plus pay = $110,000

Fixed costs for county roughly $2500

Prosecution costs for 17 people $500 each, $8500

my estimated total = $121,000

Increased market share for exsisting dealers who will certainly take over...

"priceless"

jvldude: your racism is showing...

now thats a good post mr scott. that is sad. if uncle sam would legalize/regulate THE SAME WAY HE DOES WITH ALCOHOL these kids would have had no motive and not have to worry about their education. it makes me sick that we are trusted as a society with alcohol but not pot. death after death after death...yet you turn on any sporting event and all you see is the 'eviler of two evils' being glorified.

Illegalalien...
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...You really shouldn't use the word "immigrant" with illegals. If a person is here illegally, they are NOT illegal immigrants, they are trespassers.
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Immigrants are the people that come here legally.

The sad thing is, they will all be kicked out of school and likely not allowed to finish elsewhere either. Two seniors that won't be able to graduate either, sad.

observant, mespl, and spark - at least 8 of those arrested ARE students at UWW. Just go to the UWW site and look under the student directory.
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Nathan A. Gerred - Sophomore - Journalism
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Christoperh J. Armstrong - Senior - Occupational Safety
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John D. Krause - Sophomore - Business
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Mallory Feldman - Junior - Journalism
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Brandon Luedtke - Freshman - Multimedia Arts
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Elliot Cyrus - Senior - Phy. Ed.
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Kevin Spry - Junior - Art
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Spencer Peterson - Sophomore - Undecided

mr scott thats silly. what violent crime are you referring to?? the murders that happen BECAUSE drugs are illegal. 25,000ish alcohol related road deaths every year. those arent violent?? i had an asst d.a. of rock county tell me 20% of all their cases are domestic abuse. i asked what % of that 20% was alcohol related and he said NEARLY ALL OF THEM. if you want to continue the war on drugs ok, but lets add ALL the drugs to that list, ESPECIALLY THE BIGGEST KILLER...

Drugs have a much higher correlation with violent crime than alcohol does. That's all the evidence I need to continue the war on drugs.

niiiiiiiiiiiiice.....

BRAVO!!!!! FINALLY!!!!!!! THIS IS WHAT THE CITY OF WHITEWATER SHOULD BE DOING INSTEAD OF RAIDING SMALL BUSINESSES LOOKING FOR HARD-WORKING IMMIGRANTS. WERE ANY OF THE ARRESTED ILLEGAL???? I WONDER.

hearts over my head?? every time theres a pot blog yer on here lookin for me b4 i even get to comment. take my rout an stop killing your liver and start healing before yer even sick.
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good post kraut. it IS the alcohol company that needs to accept it. they lobby harder than anyone for illegal pot cuz they KNOW legal pot would help more peeps choose the path i chose. period.

Hey, thekid, you gotta take responsibility for those little hearts popping over your head.

Get rid of the reefer and go into my 12 step AAA program: Alcoholics Anonymous Anonymous.

Seriously though, glad to see you avoided the bust.

gfan enuff w yo man crush already. i told you. i like you, but i dont LIKE you like you. 45k they got. any guesses how much money these cats made during the 10 months of the investigation?? or how long before that?? DRUGS ARE CURRENTLY ILLEGAL AND THIS ACTIVITY STILL HAPPENS with the uncle sam collecting NONE of the profits, or collecting ANY tax money and actually SPENDING MILLIONS of dollars fighting the 'war on drugs'. how many people died from any or all of these drugs these peeps EVER sold?? right. none. yet uncle sam says its ok once you turn 21 to go to any bar and consume a MAN MADE POISON that kills THOUSANDS on the road every year. its silly people. we as a country are crazy broke yet we have the unted states' #1 CASH CROP as an illegal narcotic. wake the .... up.
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http://abcnews.go.com/business/story?id=...

Don’t get your hopes up that these ‘kids’ will receive any proper punishment. The big crack raid in Janesville in April 2007 ended in a JOKE. I know 1 person that was arrested for selling crack and that person has ZERO jail time. Way to make crime pay, Rock County! Plea bargains for all!
Gimme a break….

Hats off to the Police forces involved in this bust keep up the good work. Though this seems like such a small deal to some it is like a cancer if left untreated it will spread. And like cancer it never goes away just in remission

Some doctoral business student is going to fail his dissertation on "Running a successful marijuana business".

coyote - odds are, if they arrested 17 people, they have some others they are going to get that are into it WAY bigger than these guys were. They're not going to post all the information in the press to blow things. This happened when I attended there and they got tipped off by the little people and nailed some big time people because of it.

mespl - what the hell are you talking about? I have a higher education.. from Whitewater in fact. I wasn't bashing college students I was using sarcasm stating way to use your college smarts, meaning you didn't use them at all because you got busted for doing something illegal. Geez, relax dude.

JCK, yes I read the story; 10 months to accomplish a "bust" of this magnitude; what happened to all the scary drug dealers and such?

Spark "You get the point. It was a little sarcasm..." Exactly what point do we get, that everyone in Whitewater has a college education, or that you like to blame problems with society on those who have perused higher education. Let’s be honest here the you have a problem with people with college educations (that is fine there are a lot of people like you out there) but your comments have no backing, it’s kind of pathetic. And in addition they were doing something illegal so they should have been arrested, let the stoners do their typical rant, it won’t change anything.

Yeah, thekid should be here soon with his chronic screed.

coyote, they also arrested two individuals for delivery of cocaine, two for delivery of narcotics and one for delivery of an imititation controlled substance. Did you read the story?

You get the point. It was a little sarcasm and now all the posts will start with the typical, these guys shouldn't have been in trouble and marijuana should be legal rant.

Because they all live in a city with a college means they all went to college? Doubtful, spark.

The hypocracy continues...

Still illegal and there was still $45,000 in cash from it. Time and money? That is what their jobs are.

All that time and money and all they got was pot...it boggles the mind.

Way to use your college smarts boys. Look where it's going to get you. Absolutely nowhere. Keep up the good work law enforcement.