rigged

scam

This is the typical "bait and switch" scheme that car dealers are used to. I will never shop at Ayers EVER again!!

from what I know, Ayres participates in another event at that course and there they do offer a car for a whole in one every year. Now Ayres never offered a car but did sponser the hole. When the prize list was printed, the error was made by the ones who printed the list, not Ayres.

My guess is there was a clause in the "fine print," on the entry form to allow this to happen which is pretty standard in just about all contests, giveaways, etc.
What we haven't heard from the other side yet is WHY it was changed.
Can anyone shed any light on that?

Who allowed Ayers Chevrolet to change their prize list after it had been advertised? Was the change made after participants had signed up and paid their fees? Were the participants given a fair and reasonable chance to change their minds? Once the prizes are listed and the participants pay their fees, a contract is established. What were they thinking when they offered such a generous prize? What were they thinking when they changed it? The prospect of winning a new vehicle is a powerful inducement to participation and withdrawing it looks very bad for both the school district and the car dealership.

I have heard from people present that he knew the prize was changed. He was complaining about it after the hole in one was made.

wisconsinheat- Good one.

He'll probably hire Prochaska's lawyer.

yes he excepted the $500 and he knew that it was a "miss print" and the car wasn't the prize before he even hit a ball.

If he accepted the $500, he certainly weakened his case and possibly nullified it.

So it says he was awarded $500. Did he accept this prize I wonder....

You might as well give him the car, it will be much less of a loss than fighting over it in court and giving the lawers all the money.

foofoo. Obviously you are not grasping what these posts are about. It's not about the charity. It's about the details concerning the awarding of prizes at the charity event. Yes there are two (at least) sides to a story but there are still details also. And that what's lacking.

Wisconsinheat...does anyone EVER really know the whole story? There are always two sides to a story, and it is virtually impossible to know what the truth would be....if there is dissagreement on what is known to be true. Obviously both parties in the dispute believe they hold the truth. No matter what the truth may be, charity is charity in my opinion, and unless you visit a casino, when you "give" money that is what you should understand you are doing....giving.

Does anyone know the whole story" ? ecco77 claims to but apparently isn't willing to share it. Or is like the TV news teaser - details at 6:00?

Evansville.....if I was aware of the candy bar prize before I played the game...I would make the decision at that time to either play or not. And that is totally different than charity anyway.....lottery is totally self prioritizing. Of course you are playing the lottery in hopes to prosper!!!

foofoogrl, then you won't care when you play the lottery and the gas station decides to give you a candy bar for your scratch off rather than your $5000.

Sounds like someone needs to re-evaluate what is important in life. Fighting over something such as a 'prize' doesn't classify as important. Especially when this event was in place for CHARITY and had to do with a SCHOOL! People who participate in charity events normally are doing a service, not attending to prosper themselves. Sure, the thought of a new car for making an effortless act sounds great, but the information of the change in prizes was available b4 the event started, so whomever didn't agree with the changes, should have withdrawn AT THAT TIME and demanded there donation back if it was such a problem. The point of having these functions is to GIVE not TAKE! Those who give WILL receive without demands....
I guarentee it!

OK, then you are right.

I'm right, ecco77 isn't.

OK, then you are not right.

Actually it is not for nothing, he probably paid more than twice what 18 holes at Decatur Lake would normally charge for the right to participate and win the prize (as well as donate to a worthy cause).

You are precisely right when you say that Mr. Krattiger is trying to get something for nothing. It is called a prize.

You can get an insurance policy for less than $500 on most holes. It is calculated using hole length, difficulty and # of participants.

ecco77 - why not provide us with the whole story then? I tend to believe that Curlrock hit the nail right on the head.

I know for a fact that this is not the whole story and Mr Krattiger is just trying to get something for free

I saw a display at a well known local fair that is held every year in the town where this newspaper is printed that featured a very fancy and expensive motorcycle and forms to sign up to win a free motorcycle. If you read the entire notice, it mentioned a much cheaper model that was the actual prize (in much smaller lettering by some unusual coincidence). I would characterize that as bait and switch, but changing the prize at the last minute is just dishonest. Leaving a vehicle on display when it is no longer a prize shows some aspects of baiting, but I am sure that is was not practical to move it or that someone could not find the keys.

Interesting dilema. As most of you know when someone wins a prize like this for a hole in one the dealership is not out $34,000. Insurance on the prize is purchased before the event and odds of a hole in one are calculated. Obviously, the insurance to cover the hole-in-one event is far less than the cost of the car. It sounds as though somebody forgot to insure the car and they took it out of the event at the last minute.

Sounds like the old "bait and switch" to me. Ignore the lawyer, do what's right, award the prize as promised.

If the Buick was offered as a prize at the time Krattiger signed up for the tournament and especially if an entry fee was required, the sponsors should be required to follow through with their offer. Once the event has started, it is too late to change the rules. Was there a disclaimer attached to the entry stating that prizes were subject to change without notification? Even so, it is very disingenuous to display the non eligible prize at the sixteenth hole. I would be interested to hear an explanation from Ayres as to why the prize was changed. How about it?