Obama could be president women want him to be
BOSTON — Somewhere in the waning hours of this interminable primary, I found myself channeling Barack Obama as he began a long overdue and eagerly anticipated conversation … on gender.
“Tonight, I want to talk directly with the women of America.
“First, let me repeat what I said in Iowa about my deep respect for Senator Clinton. She has indeed ‘shattered myths and broken barriers and changed the America in which my daughters and yours will come of age.’ There is no one in this country who better understands her tenacity, resilience, and commitment to public service than I.
“So I want to thank the women who voted for me without ever believing they were betraying the dream of full opportunity for women.
But I also want to recognize those millions of women who voted for Hillary Clinton—women who invested their passionate hope to break the glass ceiling, to complete a symbolic journey to equality.
“In any hard-fought campaign, disappointments are real and there are lingering wounds. But I know those women didn’t just support Senator Clinton because they share her gender. They believed that she shares their life experience, and understands their needs. They believe that she hears them.
“Well, I stand before you today as the son of a woman who traveled the astonishing arc of an entire generation. The American dream transformed this young mother into an accomplished international worker with deep ties to her own children and profound empathy for the poor families of the world. My mother knew that women’s rights were human rights.
“I also stand before you as a partner in a two-worker marriage.
Michelle and I have lived the struggles of balancing work and family, paying for child care and the mortgage, finding time for our jobs and our children. We too, even now, juggle our own ambitions and our family time.
“I stand beside you as well, as a father, fully invested in my daughters. I share a commitment that their lives will not be limited by an unfinished revolution.
“And so I, too, hear you.
“I hear the older women of American who worked a lifetime without getting equal pay for equal work. Women who went into retirement with unequal pensions. I say enough of that.
“I hear women who spent decades taking care of others to find that this work diminished their security and opportunities. I hear women who work for modest wages and spend evenings with their husbands—or without any husband—trying to decide whether to pay for health insurance or keep the car running. I say we can do better than that.
“I hear the mothers who look at their growing children and wonder if they will have to fight in Iraq. They want to know how to keep those children protected. They want someone who has the strength to combat terrorism but also the strength to avoid the next military misadventure. I say there is a different path.
“I know that poverty most often wears a female face. I hear women of all races speak the same language when they talk about educating their children, or a media culture that undermines their values. I say we stand together.
“But I don’t just hear you. I will promise you. I will promise that in an Obama administration, helping to bail out families will be more important than bailing out Bear Stearns. Child care will be not be an afterthought, but as basic as school. Family medical leave will be, at long last, expanded to every worker.
“An Obama administration will trust American women to make their own moral and medical decisions about child-bearing. We will not say that the government knows best. And we will have women as decision-makers at every table, at every level.
“I don’t make these promises because they fit on the platter of ‘women’s issues.’ This I know, from the dreams of my mother and the dreams for my daughters: Most men share these concerns. And I am one of them.
“There’s a long way between now and November and I need your help. You want a president who hears you and shares your hopes. I will be that president. I will be your president.
“Thank you for listening.”
Ellen Goodman is a columnist for the Boston Globe. E-mail her at ellengoodman@globe.com.
Jul 16, 2008 at 8:10 p.m.
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Obama lacks the leadership needed in this Country now. Wrong guy for a wartime President.
Jul 10, 2008 at 11:57 p.m.
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"Why is it that democrats have to tell us they love this country?"
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The don't...it just seems that Republicans have a skewed sense of what "patriotism" is.
Jul 5, 2008 at 11:38 a.m.
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my vote is NO!!!!! I think the welfare people already get enough and some abuse it. Seems he is going to give them even more. Yes some do need it MANY do not and are too lazy to get jobs when capable.
Jul 5, 2008 at 10:53 a.m.
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This man has to tell people he is patriotic. What is that? Why is it that democrats have to tell us they love this country?
Jul 5, 2008 at 9:04 a.m.
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I won't vote for him because he wants to raise the capital gains tax again. He also wants to enact the marriage penalty tax and raise income taxes.
Jun 29, 2008 at 10:25 p.m.
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"I for one don't want Obama as President with his Heritage."
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Nothing closed (small) minded about that statement, eh?
Jun 29, 2008 at 1:47 p.m.
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I for one don't want Obama as President with his Heritage. I know a lot of Muslims and they are wonderful but Obama isn't one of them I have seen him on TV and he just isn't the one who should be President my vote is going for Mcain
Jun 29, 2008 at 11:51 a.m.
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Why can't we have a person who does what they say they are going to do. Stands by their position from day one. Someone who doesn't waver in the political wind. Someone who means what the say and isn't going to change their positions by what poll numbers are. Neither one of these clowns can do that. They are both career politicians and aren't going to do this country one bit of good.
Jun 28, 2008 at 10:03 p.m.
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The better question isn’t which holy book Obama swears by, but whether an oath means anything to him at all in light of his recent flip flops such as when he gave his unequivocal word that he would take public financing in the general election some time ago, but now, when it is clearly to his advantage, he has reneged on that oath. This is change we can believe in? I guess he meant change that jingle jangle jingles which, apparently is the kind that real politicians such as Obama believe in.
Jun 28, 2008 at 7:39 p.m.
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shutupandfish:
Here are a few URL’s that may or may not help you in your quest for the truth. Keep looking for reputable sources of information, find the facts as best you can and then make your decision. Good luck.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ant...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/sta...
http://www.factcheck.org/
Jun 28, 2008 at 5:24 p.m.
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Is it true that if he gets elected he will take the oath of office on the Koran? I have seen pictures of him at events where he doesn't put his had over his heart during the pledge of alligence. Why?
Jun 27, 2008 at 3:37 a.m.
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BostonBilly:
Listen girl/boy/whatever you are, you may think you are an online psychologist, but you are far from the mark. I am tired of you trying analyze me and making your judgements. You don't know me and don't know what my reading interests list is or has been throughout my life. I can debate with anyone, but you aren't worth the time, I prefer to do my best to annoy you, and it appears that is working. I know that people can read my posts or yours, but you didn't post the whole comment and the context in which they were written. Case in point: “I am going to enjoy it very much calling him names, demeaning him, berating him, and touting his failures" the part that you left out was "like the left has done to Bush for his time in office". I don't know if you are angry or not, but I am not always angry, but I do get upset with people like you that think they know what other people are like just by their passion towards politics. I am glad that I amuse you, some people are amused easily, they laugh to themselves a lot, then realize they are the only one laughing. As for God bless me, which God would that be? Yours, mine, or someone elses? I'll see you later, have a nice day!
Jun 27, 2008 at 1:59 a.m.
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You two need to calm down take a deep breath and find a hobby to cool off for a few days. How about disco dancing? Ake Blomqvist could show you how!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VakjZqso8Ik
Now you can be the hippest kid on the block! Dynomite!!!
P.S. skip to about 2:18 to see some real moves!
Jun 26, 2008 at 8:33 p.m.
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Whatdidyousay: You really amuse me. I gave you the benefit of the doubt for awhile but you are neither a debater nor an objective person. You spout negativity and exhibit a totally close minded way of thinking. I am a History buff and I know that there is always more than one way of looking at things. You, Sir or Ma’am, are so set in your ways that you can’t even take a moment to examine another’s point of view or even examine the facts. Your revisionist view of History has not been proven, and spouting things like, (regarding Joe McCarthy) “The majority of what he had to say turned out to be 100% correct. Read the papers released by the former Soviet Union and you may be surprised to find that ole Joe was right on the money about the people he said were working for the KGB and were employed by the democrats in their administration during his time.”
As usual, a total distortion by a close minded person. Please try reading some books other than those written by Ann Coulter and others like Evans, etc. Being objective is something that you need to learn. One has to have an open mind in order to discern what is true and what is not. I’m not trying to change your vote; you have your mind made up and that is fine, I’m just asking that you THINK. Truly THINK how you deal with people. Channel your anger and move toward the positive.
Regarding your request to post all your ‘quotes”, that’s just plain silly. The things I posted were quoted from what you have “said” were they not? Anybody can click on your username or my username and read everything we have ever posted, if they are interested in researching them. My point was that you are an angry, negative, name calling person.
With all that baloney in mind, I choose to not deal with you anymore. God Bless you.
Jun 25, 2008 at 8:15 p.m.
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BostonBill:
If you are going to quote my posts, then post all of it, not just an excerpt. Post everything that led up to those posts also, don't just pick an choose what fits your agenda. Don't feel sorry for me because I surely don't feel anything for you. As for McCarthy, you should read a book about him that tells the truth and not just what the liberals had to say about him. The majority of what he had to say turned out to be 100% correct. Read the papers released by the former Soviet Union and you may be surprised to find that ole Joe was right on the money about the people he said were working for the KGB and were employed by the democrats in their administration during his time.
Jun 25, 2008 at 7:55 p.m.
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johndoe- nobody ever said that your name qualifies you or not for President.
Jun 25, 2008 at 3:25 p.m.
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Calm down Whatdidyousay before you pop a vein. And to think, you accused me of ranting. That is very funny coming from someone who is the rant King/Queen of this blog. (sorry, I’m not sure of your gender.) You have no qualms about calling people names and belittling them in your ridiculous posts, i.e.
“fools”
“obimbo”
“What a snot nosed little troll you are”
My favorite, and it speaks volumes about your personality, is:
“I am going to enjoy it very much calling him names, demeaning him, berating him, and touting his failures”.
I won’t even mention the comments that you have made but were removed because of their inappropriate content. Hmmm!
These are traits of a delusional disorder and I feel sorry for you. Your constant references to, and fear of Communism and Socialism reminds me of another Wisconsin Republican who expressed many of the same “fears”; Senator Joe McCarthy. For those of you who aren’t familiar with this gem of a politician, please look him up. You may be surprised by the similarities.
You really need to lighten up.
Have a nice day Whatdidyousay and God Bless America.
Jun 25, 2008 at 3:02 p.m.
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BostonBill:
If you have anything to say about me, say it to me. You are fast becoming the class clown of this thread. LOL at that. Bring it on, I love to go at it with posters like you, another typical keyboard commando full of hot air.
Jun 25, 2008 at 1:50 p.m.
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What about Hyman Burstin?!
Jun 25, 2008 at 12:36 p.m.
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"The ignorance was to think or insinuate that a persons given name would have any bearing on their QUALIFICATIONS to be president."
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ELECTABILITY.....Now that's a different story.
Jun 25, 2008 at 11:28 a.m.
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"You have to give Barack Obama credit, he's overcome a great deal. Not just he's an African-American. Barack Hussein Obama is his name. His middle name is the last name of Iraq's former tyrant. His last name rhymes with Osama. That's not easy to overcome. I think we all remember the ill-fated 1944 presidential campaign of Gaydolf Titler. It's just a shame, Titler had so many good ideas. We just couldn't get past the name. And the moustache." -Jon Stewart
Jun 25, 2008 at 9:45 a.m.
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Do you think Obama would accept a V.P. running mate named Ben Laden?
Jun 25, 2008 at 9:39 a.m.
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I wonder what the chances are of Rudolf Hitler being elected to anything.
Jun 25, 2008 at 9:02 a.m.
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The ignorance was to think or insinuate that a persons given name would have any bearing on their qualifications to be president.
Jun 25, 2008 at 8:05 a.m.
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John Doe your showing your ignorances by just name calling. You could comeback with why you think whybesad is wrong and state your case. It would make you look more intelligent. Just my opinion call me ignorant if you want.
Jun 24, 2008 at 10:41 p.m.
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JohnDoe: I got the SNL reference and I also applaud you for changing the S*** word to "fool". I wonder how many people here remember the Dan Aykroyd/Jane Curtin banter.
Jun 24, 2008 at 10:33 p.m.
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JohnDoe: That was a nice, what I consider reconciliation, post regarding your "ignorant fool" statement. Good job. There are lots of names that we would love to, and sometimes do, call people but sometimes people don't admit that it was a little much. Kudos to you.
Be careful about the LOL thing though. Evidently, Whatdidyousay doesn’t like it when people laugh. LOL LOL LOL LOL
By the way, your post about what a child is named is right on.
Jun 24, 2008 at 9:56 p.m.
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IE: Jane on SNL
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LOL
Jun 24, 2008 at 9:43 p.m.
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We all are ignorant on many subjects (myself included) and we are all fools at any given time (myself included).Some just need it to be pointed out more frequently than others, (present company excluded).
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LOL
Jun 24, 2008 at 9:24 p.m.
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That was a nice comment. While I agree with you in principle about the significance of a name (that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet), calling someone else an ignorant fool and clueless is not very sweet. You do not elevate your position by dragging another person down. Let fools prove themselves. They seldom need to be pointed out. Now you can direct your venomous tirade to me if you wish.
Jun 24, 2008 at 6:34 p.m.
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whybesad...you ignorant fool...why would any parents name their male child David? Maybe because they just happen to like the sound of it? Even though David is a "Jewish" name.
The same can be said about any given name.
Again...be sad...because you are clueless.
Jun 24, 2008 at 5:55 p.m.
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killing "in the name of (insert the name of your god here)"... is just a weak excuse to play (insert the name of your god here)".
Extremely ANYTHING is never a good thing. Whether you are extremely right, extremely left or extremely dead.
Jun 24, 2008 at 5:49 p.m.
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ummm...I get that. But the "extreme" Christians picket abortion clinics and harrass women who are entering and leaving the building, whether going there for an aboortion or not...they don't "just" blow them up.
I plan on voting for someone who will protect women's rights, regardless of his or her last name. I can see past a name and vote for the candidate who has my country's best interests in mind.
By the way, it is not proper to judge a man by the "sins" of his father. Or mother. Who, afterall, chooses their birth name?
Jun 24, 2008 at 4:02 p.m.
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ms_sassy_wi an extreme Muslim is a terrorist who blows up buildings, airplanes etc in the name of ali. An extreme Christan is a person who blows up abortion clinics and kills doctors that perform abortions in the name of Christianity. An extreme leftist is a person who attacks fishing boats or oil rigs in the name of saving the environment. Greenpeace is an extreme leftist group. Hopefully that helps you.
Jun 24, 2008 at 12:24 p.m.
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sorry, but I can't help but ask the next question: an "extreme Christian" can't also be an "extreme leftist"? Some people would call me an "extreme Christian" (or at least I "used" to be called one)...what, exactly is the definition or qualifying traits to be "extreme"?
And, to clarify: I WOULD NOT BE A GOOD POLITCIAN! Just ask a few posters here...LOL
Jun 24, 2008 at 8:29 a.m.
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You TOTALLY missed my point in all of this and I will give up on my attempt to show you what I meant by all of this name business. Why would his parents name him Barack Hussein Obama if he wasn't raised a Muslim? Why not name him Dwayne Edward Obama? If he was raised a Muslim I could care less but, don't try and hide it. Not all Muslims are bad just the extreme Muslims. Just like the extreme Christians and Extreme leftists.
Jun 23, 2008 at 10:30 p.m.
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thekid..., simmer down!
Jun 23, 2008 at 9:11 p.m.
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i am SERIOUSLY kickin around the idea of writing in ms_sassy for prez.
Jun 23, 2008 at 8:24 p.m.
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ms_sassy...you are correct. whybesad resorts to meaningless drivel as a means to bring an air of perceived negativity because he is clueless concerning substantive issues.
Jun 23, 2008 at 6:32 p.m.
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*LOL*
Jun 23, 2008 at 6:22 p.m.
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yeah. my last name is french. does that mean I am unwilling to assist anyone in need? nope. what's the point of "what" his name is? A person can be a Christian regardless of his/her family heritage. I think these are ridiculous statements and are lame attempts at ruining someone's name. a politician of any party has the ability to do that on his/her own "merits"-it doesn't take deciphering a name to tell if a person's a "good witch or a bad witch".
In my opinion, there's not a politician in D.C. who does a very good job of claiming to be a Christian and then acts on that premise.
Jun 23, 2008 at 2:10 p.m.
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BostonBill:
Do you get a kick out of hearing yourself rant? LOL at that.
Jun 23, 2008 at 10:59 a.m.
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Your website stated that Obama isn't a radical Muslim. I never said he was a radical Muslim. He has a Muslim name. That was my point. He is who he is. Not all Muslims are bad I'm not saying that Obama is a bad person.I never said that he was a bad person I believe his policies are bad but, he as a person might be a really nice guy. The point is he should be proud of where he came from and how he was raised. He has been very successful in his life. Went to Ivy league schools and became a United States Senator that's great.
Jun 23, 2008 at 8:46 a.m.
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Who cares if it's a "Christian" name?
Obama is who he is. So get over it. As for trying to insult me, whybesad, nice try. I have seen what you've posted. Still not impressed.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/mus...
Jun 23, 2008 at 7:15 a.m.
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Johndoe- well is it a Christan name? Instead of name calling like a typical liberal debate me on it. Is it that hard?
Jun 23, 2008 at 7:12 a.m.
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Irish_Mafia78 you may want to read the posts that I have written. I never said it was a bad thing to be a Muslim. I stated that Obama is running away from who he really is as a person. Barack Obama is not a Christan name that is my point. Look it up. I know it may be difficult since your obviously intellectually challenged but, give it a shot. You may actually learn something.
Jun 23, 2008 at 4:53 a.m.
Jun 23, 2008 at 3:28 a.m.
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MY THOUGHTS ON POLITICS
In politics
everyone carries a sign saying
hurray for our side.
It wasn't our fault
it was the other guys.
Don't believe my opponent...
He lies.
Copyright © 2004 T. J. Daniels
Jun 22, 2008 at 9:30 p.m.
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I'm glad that Whatdidyousay got a chuckle out of something. Read, "I get a chuckle out of everything a liberal democrat says, and the fools that fall for their hot air rhetoric."
His or her remarks are usually so negative, grumpy and disparaging; it’s nice to know that there may be a sense of humor buried there somewhere. *lol*
Jun 22, 2008 at 6:48 p.m.
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whybesad wrote...."Is Barrack Hussein Obama an American name? No it's a muslim name. Say what you want but his name is muslim."
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I was trying to give whybesad the benefit of the doubt concerning his username but he just keeps giving us too much ammunition.
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Be sad because you're clueless.
Jun 22, 2008 at 6:42 p.m.
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you did not simply point out that i violate the law. it should be obvious to anyone that reads ANY of these threads that i will be the FIRST to admit i violate this ignorant law. you suggested that because i didnt see your point the 'hemp must be getting in the way'. hypocrisy is hypocrisy whether i smoke pot or not.
Jun 22, 2008 at 3:41 p.m.
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thekid:
You really don't have a clue do you? You can spin your BS anyway you like, I could not care less. As far as a right winger move, if pointing out that someone violates the law makes them a right winger, then that is the typical response of a left winger. Don't like the law, then change it. Should everyone that doesn't agree with a certain law they don't like be allowed to violate it just because they don't agree with it. That is anarchy, this country was founded on the priciple of law, without laws what do you think this country would look like. The constitution gives people the right to change laws, but that is an inconvience to the left, so they like an activist judiciary, it works better for them.
Jun 22, 2008 at 2:43 p.m.
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i dont understand where yer goin billnewbie. my 'opponents'?? anti-obamaers you mean?? we all have our views and they obviously dont coincide with everyone elses views, that does not make me a hypocrite or mean that i am ignoring facts. i dont care if either of them associated or had 'dealings' with a terrorist. i would naively;) assume they would seperate from that relationship as leader of the united states of america. im knowledgable enough on most of the issues that i can have a conversation, but i really could care less. not a politician alive at the federal level who TRULY cares about us way down here in middle america. they just dont. and my life WILL NOT be affected dramatically one way or another. its about how can they advance themselves, or their party, or their beliefs. im not ignorant enough to believe that president obama is any different. 3 reasons president obama is going to get my vote. A)although it may backfire, he DOES offer a better chance for change than mccain. 2)although he is a pol and he could flip flop, hes on record stating the war on drugs is an 'utter failure' and that he would stop spending federal money arresting LEGAL medical users of marijuana. and d) hes black. its just plain time to show the world we as a country are not as ignorant as we once were....
Jun 22, 2008 at 11:54 a.m.
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Is Barrack Hussein Obama an American name? No it's a muslim name. Say what you want but his name is muslim.
Jun 22, 2008 at 11:23 a.m.
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Isn't that what your opponents would say?
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:43 a.m.
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good point. but im not ignoring any facts. and i notice how even you refer to them as facts:)
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:30 a.m.
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Hypocrisy, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. The way you state it, yes that's hypocrisy. But not everyone agrees with those facts. You may say that those who defend GW are ignoring the facts while they may claim that you are. Thus the hamster wheel analogy.
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:22 a.m.
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i actually am a fan. you write well thought out posts with some humor, pretty much all the time;), and i do believe at one time you said my meds probably arent as bad as alcohol:) but im rite arent i?? that is hypocrisy.
Jun 22, 2008 at 10:04 a.m.
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I didn't realize that I impressed you so. I'll add your name to the membership list of my fan club.
Jun 22, 2008 at 9:59 a.m.
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i said nothing in defense of my guy being a hypocrite. quite honestly i dont know if hes associated with terrorists or not. nor do i care. i really dont care that gw did. they are their own people and would i take a loan from someone who knew oil to make myself a millionaire?? absolutely. thats the way the system works. all i was doing was pointing out that whatdidyousay said one of the reasons hes against president obama is because he's associated with known terrorists. thats ok if thats a reason you dont want to vote for president obama, but if you voted for gw, especially the second time, then you can use whatever big fancy words you know billnewbie to try and impress people, but thats hypocrisy. in fact, i think that may be pretty much the definition of hypocrisy.
Jun 22, 2008 at 9:36 a.m.
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Reading the arguments that your guy is a hypocrite so it's O.K. that my guy is a hypocrite while berating each other for defending a hypocrite is like watching a hamster running in his wheel. Even he must see that he's not getting anywhere, but it seems he just can't resist the urge.
Jun 22, 2008 at 9:20 a.m.
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thats funny that youll start judging me rite away cuz of my personal lifestyle, thats not a typical right winger move;), i dont see the diff between 'dealing with someone, as opposed to associating with a person on a personal level' did you get that clarification from fox news?? so gw/baths 'dealings' with the bin laden WERENt personal?? nothing to do with oil?? i dont think hes dealt with the bin ladens since he was in office, other than chasing him around afghanistan and using him as one of the excuses to go to iraq. which means it wasnt politcal dealings, so it must have been business, but im sure gw didnt profit off ANY of the dealings, so yer rite i guess it wasnt personal. omfg. and gw isnt running so i could give a s**t about him, you made the point that one of the reasons you wont vote for president obama is cuz hes dealt with known terrorists. you obviously have the rite in this county to vote for whoever you want for whatever reasons you want, i simply was pointing out the HYPOCRISY coming from your post by blasting president obama for it, when the current president you voted for did the same thing.
Jun 22, 2008 at 6:23 a.m.
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thekid:
There is a difference between dealing with someone, as opposed to associating with a person on a personal level. If you can't see the distinction there, maybe the hemp is getting in your way.
Jun 22, 2008 at 2:13 a.m.
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whybesad...just wondering if you read the link provide by theguyonthecouch concerning your claim that Obama was raised a Muslim? Just curious.
Jun 22, 2008 at 2:02 a.m.
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Bush isn't running again so that is pretty much a non issue.
Jun 22, 2008 at 12:39 a.m.
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so gw and james bath had NO ties to the bin ladens?? ever?? i am by no means far left. my only real political concern is to free hemp, but if you, whatdidyousay, can deny that connection then you are as far to the right and blinded by your beliefs as the far lefters you chuckle at.
Jun 21, 2008 at 9:06 p.m.
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I get a chuckle out of everything a liberal democrat says , and the fools that fall for their hot air rhetoric.
Jun 21, 2008 at 8:24 p.m.
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thekid3477; No apology necessary. I got a chuckle out of it. Thanks.
Jun 21, 2008 at 6:42 p.m.
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It's gonna be a long four years no matter who gets in.
Jun 21, 2008 at 5:48 p.m.
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He can't be the person he is that is wrong. He throws his clergy of 20 years under the bus. He throws his close friends under the bus if they hurt his campaign efforts he shuns away from Muslim woman because it would look bad. But, he's the uniter.
Jun 21, 2008 at 1:11 p.m.
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garyprimer:
The only thing missing in obimbos new seal is the number 666.
Jun 21, 2008 at 12:43 p.m.
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This statement by you is getting old,"say it with me peeps. PRESIDENT OBAMA!!" There are plenty of people that will not be calling obimbo president, get used to it.
Jun 21, 2008 at 12:41 p.m.
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thekid:
By your statement to me I have to assume you really are a kid, grow up. Bush dealing with leaders of other countries does not mean he associates with terrorists. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, have you ever heard that statement, or is that before your time.
Jun 21, 2008 at 10:51 a.m.
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Check it out. http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/...
Jun 21, 2008 at 10:49 a.m.
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Obama has designed his own presidential seal. What's next? Barrack on a cross?
Jun 21, 2008 at 9:57 a.m.
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sry, thats for whatdidyousay not bostonbill, all apologies;)
Jun 21, 2008 at 9:56 a.m.
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i assume bostonbill you didnt vote for GW since he has associated with known terrorists for decades??
Jun 21, 2008 at 9:54 a.m.
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paranoia, paranoia everyones out ta get me:) say it with me peeps. PRESIDENT OBAMA!!
Jun 21, 2008 at 8:09 a.m.
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BostonBill:
If you want to know my definition of communism, read the communist manifesto, my definition parallels that document. obimbos ideas for government control of nearly every aspect of life in this country is closely resembled in that manifesto. I'll say this part of my previous post again because you must have missed it "I can't believe there are people willing to vote for a person that has marxists views, has no experience to be president, has no track record, associates with known terrorists and people with anti-American views." Those are REALLY the things I don't like about obimbo. He changes his position about foreign policy on a daily basis. Why, because he has NO experience. Given the state of current affairs in the world, this is no time for a leader that will need on the job training. I'm no fan of McCain, but he is the better qualified of the two choices I have in this election cycle.
Jun 21, 2008 at 7:52 a.m.
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Petcat:
I'll call obimbo a lot of things, but president will never be one of them. Should he get elected, I am going to enjoy it very much calling him names, demeaning him, berating him, and touting his failures . Just like the left wing has done to Bush for his term in office. What comes around, goes around.
Jun 21, 2008 at 6:24 a.m.
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LOLZ... Silly republicans.. President Obama, get used to saying it.
Jun 20, 2008 at 9:47 p.m.
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JohnDoe said, "It's only the beginning.
Republicans demand truth and clarity only when it serves their cause.
Come to think of it, the Democrats often do the same."
Ain't it the truth! That is why I hate politics. It's like the people who "suck up to the boss." I try to educate myself regarding who is the best candidate; someone who can do the best for the USA; who can help us get out of the mess we are in; who really cares about us citizens, and then I vote for the one I believe in the most.
Jun 20, 2008 at 9:17 p.m.
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Whatdidyousay:
I asked, “Do you know what Communism is? Can you express your definition and why you feel this way?”
You replied, “Do I know what communism is? Are you serious? How many countries in this world are already under communism? Do you think I can't see what goes on in them?”
Again, I will ask, “Do you know what Communism is? Can you express your definition and why you feel this way?”
I am looking for your definition and how you link Mr. Obama to Communism.
You seem very passionate about your opinions and that is a good thing, however, by your own admission; (“I did say it in anger and frustration.”), I would like to know if you could be calm and objective and tell us what REALLY bothers you about Mr. Obama.
I respect peoples’ opinions but I like clarity. Thank you.
Jun 20, 2008 at 5:01 p.m.
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It's only the beginning.
Republicans demand truth and clarity only when it serves their cause.
Come to think of it, the Democrats often do the same.
Only four and a half months to go.
Jun 20, 2008 at 2:02 p.m.
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Not true. Typical bull.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/polit...
Jun 20, 2008 at 1:35 p.m.
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A problem I have with Obama is that he was raised a muslim. Good or bad that's who he is. Why denounce that? Why can't a person/canidate run on who they really are. If he is such a good canidate then he should be proud of his roots and how he was raised. Democrat or republican doesn't matter. He's been honest with his drug use in the past. People like honesty and without honesty you don't have respect. Why be scared of who you are. If you can't be yourself who can you be?
Jun 20, 2008 at 10:04 a.m.
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Obama's appeal to women may have lost a little of it's sheen after his difficulty with those Islamic women in their headscarves. It seems he didn't want the ladies visible behind him at a rally as he was concerned about being associated with Islam. Of course the whole thing was blamed on those evil republicans who are looking for smear material, as if to say "the devil made me do it".
Jun 20, 2008 at 7:34 a.m.
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Very good points here.
Jun 20, 2008 at 4:53 a.m.
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OOPS! I made a grammar error in my last post. "countries" plural, when it should have been "country's" possessive. Grammar police, please don't come take me away.
Jun 20, 2008 at 4:46 a.m.
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BostonBill:
Do I know what communism is? Are you serious? How many countries in this world are already under communism? Do you think I can't see what goes on in them? As far as obimbo goes, you are right in your assessment. I did say it in anger and frustration. I can't believe there are people willing to vote for a person that has marxists views, has no experience to be president, has no track record, associates with known terrorists and people with anti-American views. To your other point, I have never degraded women, nor would I. As for obimbo, that is one of the better things I will call him should he become this countries leader, notice I didn't say president.
Jun 19, 2008 at 10:07 p.m.
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"Whatdidyousay" said, "Obama could be president women want him to be? obimbo will say anything he thinks you want to hear to get you to vote for him. Communism is on its way."
I think this is a strange thing to say and I wonder if it was said in anger or frustration. By referring to Mr. Obama as "obimbo" says a lot by itself. Are you degrading women; Mr. Obama; politicians in general, or who? Mr. or Ms. Whatdidyousay, please explain why you feel this way. Do you know what Communism is? Can you express your definition and why you feel this way?
Jun 19, 2008 at 10:02 p.m.
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I am so lacking in academic (4 syllables) acuity (4 more syllables) and intelligence (I can't stop myself) that such analogies (HELP ME) eluded my cogitation (arghhhhh). (I'm gonna go lie down for a while till my syllablitis subsides.)
Jun 19, 2008 at 9:47 p.m.
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Louis XVI is who Imeant to say, not the XV.
Jun 19, 2008 at 9:38 p.m.
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billnewbie, I have just one small point to make regarding your Robin Hood statement. The government is incapable of acting like Robin Hood because Robin stole from the government and gave it back to the people. I suggest a different person/entity, such as Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, New York State, King George III or Louis XV. All would be much better examples than Robin Hood.
Jun 19, 2008 at 9:10 p.m.
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LOL- Give up NVGRF, you are getting destroyed. Billy makes intelligent arguments and you spout the same far left drivel.
Jun 19, 2008 at 8:51 p.m.
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NVgrf:
Did you run into Javon Walker the other day? You may have had the opportunity (4 syllables) since you have said that you are in Nevada.
I know you’re in favor of redistributing (5 syllables) the wealth of the rich and there aren’t many that are richer than Walker.
Of course I realize that it probably was not you as people of your persuasion prefer to let the I.R.S. do the strong-arm work for you since you want the government to act like Robin Hood. Rolling football stars is dangerous work. After all, people like you have to lay claim to virtues such as bravery, fairness and patriotism (5 syllables) as your actions and words do not lead the casual observer to believe you actually possess them.
I realize there are a lot of big words here but I know you have access to a dictionary (yep, 4 syllables). If I thought it would help your comprehension (oops, another 4 syllable word) I’d limit myself to 4 letter words (which I'm sure is your preferred range of vocabulary (5 syllables)) but alas, the inflexibility (a 6 syllable word) of your opinions are immune to reason no matter the form in which it is given.
Does it make you feel better about yourself to denigrate my level of education (I just love these 4 syllable words)?
Do you feel good imagining (I think I’m getting 4 syllablitis (5 syllables)) me as a dim witted brute fit only to polish shoes in a railroad station?
Do you see me as the bell ringer of Notre Dame?
Does it reassure your lofty opinion of yourself to project such an image of me in your mind?
I wonder if you are surprised that I know what a syllable is and that I can actually (one more 4 syllable word (I’m totally out of control)) count them. Are you impressed enough now that I’ve thrown in a few 5 and 6 syllable words as well, or do I need 7 or 8 to impress you?
You ought to know better than to reprint excerpts from a dictionary without attribution (2 more 4 syllable words).
The following is reprinted from this link and attributed accordingly below:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/a...
au•dac•i•ty Audio Help ɔˈdæs ɪ ti - Show Spelled Pronunciation[aw-das-i-tee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -ties.
1. boldness or daring, esp. with confident or arrogant disregard for personal safety, conventional thought, or other restrictions.
2. effrontery or insolence; shameless boldness: His questioner's audacity shocked the lecturer.
3. Usually, audacities. audacious acts or statements.
[Origin: 1400–50; late ME audacite < L audāc-, s. of audāx daring (adj.) + -ite -ITY ]
—Synonyms 1. nerve, spunk, grit, temerity, foolhardiness. 2. impudence, impertinence, brashness.
—Antonyms 1, 2. discretion, prudence.
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
Jun 19, 2008 at 6 p.m.
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billy....
"those who have the audacity to see things differently than you"
I love pompous right-wingers whose mission in life is to string as many four syllable words as they can together in sentences in order to attempt to impress. And you are true to form...not having a clue how to use the language properly. You might want to consider pursuing that GED. It might add a bit to your credibility.
au·dac·i·ty 1. boldness or daring, esp. with confident or arrogant disregard for personal safety, conventional thought, or other restrictions.
2. effrontery or insolence; shameless boldness: His questioner's audacity shocked the lecturer.
Jun 19, 2008 at 3:12 p.m.
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Obama could be president women want him to be? obimbo will say anything he thinks you want to hear to get you to vote for him. Communism is on its way.
Jun 19, 2008 at 8:02 a.m.
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No, but I do find it curious that we will do anything in his power to impeed the rights of homosexuals because he believes it is a sin but when his soldiers are sodomizing prisoners you don't hear 'boo' from him.
Oh, and if it meant getting the information he wanted, GW would OK sodomizing.
Jun 18, 2008 at 1:56 p.m.
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You can say anything you like, on your own forum. On someone else's forum, they get to set the rules. If you can't afford your own forum, try a soap box on a busy public street corner. But even there, you have to watch your language.
Jun 18, 2008 at 1:01 p.m.
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lol. so much for freedom of speech:)
Jun 18, 2008 at 12:20 p.m.
Jun 18, 2008 at 12:06 p.m.
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Excellent points on terms limits in congress. This would certainly be a step in the right direction.
Jun 18, 2008 at 11:35 a.m.
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You are free to add anything that you think I overlooked. (You don't really believe the President is in favor of sodomizing prisoners, do you?)
Jun 18, 2008 at 11:17 a.m.
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billnewbie
if you are going to list dem v rep positions please attempt to be fair. don't just list the extreme of the dems while forgetting about some of the extreme positions of thr reps.
the abortion example is the most blantant...
why don't you mention extreme rep positions aboout how the republicans believe torture if fine. Did you hear the medical report? some of the captives were sodimized before dying as american prisoners.
Both sides have their issues, both have extremists, don't forget that.
Jun 18, 2008 at 10:34 a.m.
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Amen Bill!!! How true!!
Jun 18, 2008 at 10:11 a.m.
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Well said. The congress used to be occupied by statesmen and patriots. Now they are full of professional politicians and crooks. Term limits would be a start
Jun 18, 2008 at 9:58 a.m.
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In the 1960’s there was a war on but we refused to do what had to be done to win it as many in our country were sympathetic with the goals of the enemy and others were afraid of what our enemy’s allies would do. In 1968 a change was demanded and a Republican, Nixon, was elected.
4 years later, Nixon forgot why he was elected president and set about getting re-elected even if that meant breaking the law, and then tried to cover up what was done until he was driven from office in mid-term in 1974. The new President Ford then pardoned Nixon and again a change was demanded. In 1976 a man who was deemed good and capable , Carter, was elected who turned out not to be capable after all between the Iranian mess which we still are dealing with and an economic mess driven by high and rising fuel prices, and again a change was demanded. (There seems to be a pattern here)
Through all these Presidential changes, the leadership in Congress in both parties and both houses were continually re-elected with few exceptions, most through retirement or poor health.
In1980 Reagan was elected in a landslide with much angst on the left. Congress resisted much of what he wanted to do, but being more concerned with re-election, they reluctantly allowed the tax cuts and increased military spending that he asked for, while ridiculing the basis of Reagan’s requests. His agenda was so successful that he gained re-election in another landslide and in 1988 his VP was elected rather easily as well.
In1992, with a brief recession underway and the first Iraqi war considered to be less than successful, a change was demanded and Clinton was elected promising to right the wrongs of the Reagan legacy which enriched too few and trickled down too little. But his own party leadership in the Congress had their own ideas and 2 years later a different change was demanded and both houses of Congress changed hands, but only into the long entrenched hands of the other party as their leadership had also been in congress for decades.
Many of those same people who have been running Congress for decades are still there now, adding their earmarks and taking special loans from Mortgage companies while blocking any attempt to investigate those deals, all the while condemning those Mortgage companies for the Home Mortgage mess they helped to create either by inaction or complicity while investigating the other party endlessly. Only they know what other kinds of special deals they get.
The President is term limited and almost everyone thinks that is a good thing. Until we term limit Congress, and remove the need for endless campaigning, there will be little or no change because Congress has to pass the laws and they like things just the way they are.
Jun 18, 2008 at 8:39 a.m.
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kiowamohican: a) i hate how the system works, and if i thought ron paul stood a cubbies chance in h311 of getting elected i would vote for him. 2) watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQr9ezr8U...
its president obama stating we need to rethink the current marijuana laws because the drug war has been an 'utter failure'.
or this video from last september he talks about not spending federal money arresting legal medical marijuana users.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUze-oYss...
SAY IT WITH ME EVERYONE!! PRESIDENT OBAMA!! :)
Jun 18, 2008 at 4:47 a.m.
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I think the concerns about splitting votes on a three party system are good ones. However, with some campaign finance reform and limits to the nomination process, there would be room both financially and in length of time for a three party run off. All three parties would run for a vote, the top two would be the two nominated parties. As a result, there could be democrat/independent, republican/independent, or the old fashioned republican/democrat to compete in the general election. The way our system is set up now, the extremist in either party seem to control the house, senate, and presidency.
Jun 17, 2008 at 11:26 p.m.
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And the band played on...
Jun 17, 2008 at 11:21 p.m.
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All I can say is Jimmy Doyle isn't running around trying to convince GM to stay. It was his tax hikes that chased GM and others out of here. Obama and his socialist agenda will issue "windfall Taxes" on big business...like GM. They won't help keep jobs in your house and food on your table. But we'll pay taxes. It won't lower gas and food prices..But we'll pay taxes..China is drilling oil 50 miles off of Key West, but we can't because of the liberal agenda...Ask a gas staion operator what they make per gallon..About 8 cents..ask Jimmy how much taxes we pay on the gas..Ask Obama and his buddy Al Gore how much taxes we pay on a gallon?? Way more than the business operators..But we pay taxes.. WE should substitute the word TAXES for CHANGE and I think we'll get a better idea of what is coming...hmmm..not thinking Obama is a good idea..
Jun 17, 2008 at 11:19 p.m.
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No one can be all things to all people.
Jun 17, 2008 at 11:17 p.m.
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Kid:
Even your man Obama is not for ending the ridiculous ban on marijuana. A ban which is one of the biggest wastes of law enforcement resources, and strain on the criminal justice system, all in the name of accomplishing nothing of any value.
You should have come aboard the Ron Paul train!
Jun 17, 2008 at 10:50 p.m.
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END MARIJUANA PROHIBITION!! write in thekid3477 for president!! FREE HEMP!!
Jun 17, 2008 at 10:11 p.m.
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One of the biggest reasons a third party is not close to parity with the big two is because most voters who want a third option are not yet confident enough to take a chance that their vote would not be wasted.
He who hesitates is lost.
Jun 17, 2008 at 9:42 p.m.
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Also, they are taking their information from "participating" women. There are more women that are going to be at the polls then have contributed their two cents this far, I can guarentee it!!