polert why blame the mother on welfare were there not MEN that should have been there to WORK and pay for their childrens needs also. I raised 4 children and worked with little to no child support and so have alot of other moms so you should reword the chain of welfare in families and look at some dead beat DADS

One question if Obamas wage goes up is he Willing to share ? Will he have his taxes raised NOT! Take from the hard working people and give to the poor BS the tax breaks he has in store are not for the 40 tho or less its the guy in between 100 to 250 tho, over that is his so called increase HA HA! What does the prez make??? I'm still voting for Favre

unknown - Lear, GM, and the State don't OWE you anything. You had a deal with Lear. You work 40 hours, they pay you for 40 hours. Anything over and above that was a benefit. Your benefits were only good if you were working. Now that you are not working, you are not owed anything. My God, get over it. Enough of the self pity.

If anything, I would be mad at your Union. You paid them monthly dues for what? I believe you got what you paid for.

I remember this situation before. That one at Everhart O'Leary motors where the mechanic's got a 3 day notice to pack tools and leave.
At least this time Lear and LSI employees have now until December to get looking for a job.
The writing is on the walls.

After Obama takes all the Plumber from Ohio has he will be asking for more money to support the unwilling to work, and that money will be coming from hard working be like those that work at Lear.

Spread the wealth he said, spread the wealth. If you worker hard to have nice thing Obama would say you should share your wealth. Obama sure has a lot of wealth to be putting all the commercial on TV. May he should lead by example.

Those that signed up the for the armed services are going to Iraq. Every service man/woman knew that going to war a possibility before joining up for that "free" college money or being able to travel and see the world.

I don't know any priests but I am betting there are a lot of good ones. I do know my pastor and he gives a whole lot more than he takes :)

ZOOM- you have nailed it on the head. tinkle down is how I have veiwed this idiotic trickle down theory from the get go! The top of the food chain people like the Bushes and The Cheneys have been spewing their tinkle down effect all their lives. So much so that they actually are believing it in spite of what we see historically. Oh, and they have no idea what living within their means mean!! They will continue to tinkle it on down the line to our children. It does'nt bother them to tinkle on our children at all. They just send them to IRAQ!

I had to reread the story to see what this message board was supposed to be about.

Question to ponder.
OK if I'm on unemployment and get the max $355/week. But I do a part time 2 day long job that paid me, say $200. How come on my next unemployment check after having to report that I earned $200 for 2 days of pt/work they take the $200 out of the normal $355 check? Now is the unemployment office deducting the GM employees supplemental pay like whould happen to everyone else?

I'm a former Lear employee. I'm very thankful for having the opportunity to work all those years for a good company with good pay. I'm glad somebody here was trying to quote the scriptures, I believe the reference was to Matthew 25:40, but it was taken out of context. "And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." The Lord Jesus Christ was teaching about a time yet future, during the great tribulation, how saved gentiles treat saved Jews during that terrible time to come as evidence of their saving faith in Him.

The Christian churches are not here to make the world a better place to go to hell from. We are here to preach the gospel to lost people. This economic downturn was either allowed or ordered by God to draw people unto Himself for help instead of trusting in uncertain riches. Riches profit not in the day of wrath: but righteousness delivereth from death.

rickyandlucy, there are other companies besides lear and lsi that have been worse off for even longer. The employees of Allied for instance. They too have no sub pay and other benefits to fall back on. My brother who works for GM says if I hear one former GM worker whining, that person is full of crap. If they are doing poorly, it's because they were in too far over their heads in the first place. I believe he said that for the next two years they will receive 85% of their pay. Not too bad for doing nothing. So, yes, I agree with you. Other's have it much worse off. I am just glad that when we found out my husband was pretty much out of a job, he was able to find something else before a whole bunch of people started looking for a job. So, even though this year has been really hard, it's beginning to look up. I would suggest finding a decent job before the unemployment runs out because everyone will be looking then.

The truly poor do not sit on their bottoms collecting welfare at the expense of others. A man, who is a creation of God, has the need within himself to work and earn his way. Those, like an uncle of mine, who sit and do nothing and let others do the work for them, do not deserve what they take. I believe wholeheartedly in helping others less fortunate. And I do it often. Especially when I see the recipients of the acts of kindness truly thankful and working to end their situation. For too long this country has handed people money and such that does not belong to them. In turn, the people grow to believe they are owed these things. It's the old saying Give a man a fish and he eats for a day...teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime, that needs to be considered here. If $40,000 dollars a year is not enough to live on, then it's time to learn to live within our means. Reduce the cost of living to be able to live and then work on improving your situation. When my husband lost his good paying union job, we moved out of our big house into an apartment and we are currently working to improve our situation. We are responsible to make our lives more enjoyable and less stressful. Not the governments...not my wealthier friends...not the plumber down the street that is prospering inspite of the current market.

If you want to talk politics go to another website. This website is about the people from LSI and Lear that will virtually be left with nothing while GM workers are whining about how bad off they will have it. SICK OF HEARING IT! Tell them to try to live on just 26 weeks of unemployment and see how that suits them. I hear them whine all day about how bad off they will be while complaining about these other companies. OK. Im done venting

he was referring to the poor as well. not just orphans. there will be plenty orphans too if nebraska keeps their policy of dropping off children with no questions asked.

There was a Country in recent history that had a program of spreading the wealth. It did not work out so well. I believe their people were hungry, and their crops rotted in the fields. They had to look to the cold war enemy for grain.

We all know how the human animal thinks. If you do not give people a incentive to achieve they will rest on their butts. You can not take from a Plumber/businessman, and then expect him to continue with his hard labor for the same as someone that has put no effort forth.

Also here is Wisconsin did we not already learn from the multi generational welfare rolls of a mother teaching child followed by child teaching grandchild how to get a welfare check. Now we want to go back to that cycle?

pubsrus...Jesus was speaking of the orphans,the children. Not the men and women who sit on their bottoms.

That's the typical socialistic response. I should be the one who decides who gets my money as a donation. It's probably earmarked for more abortions since he is for parial and full birth abortions. Makes me ill. Furthermore, I am not one of those who make that kind of income per year. As a person who inspires to make that much though I see the unfairness of it. It's not anyone's job to support me. For those of you critisizing me for my attitude and being a Christian, the Bible also states that if you don't work you don't eat. There are many people who prey off of others and their hard work. They do not give to society, they only take.

"Take from those who earn it and give it to those who don't want to work for it. Share the wealth. That's bull!"

What a wonderful Christian thing to say. :)

How do you know they "don't want to work for it"? You are supposed to be a Christian; wasn't it Jesus who said "that which ye do for the least of us ye also do for me"?

To all you people feeling sorry for the rich don't worry 3% more tax won't break there bank. I work 40hrs plus a week and make less than 40 gs a year as alot of people do. with economy I need that tax break, it's the diffrence between meat on the table or rice. 250k a year 3% tax hike is the the diffrence might be a vacation in vegas or palm springs. Don't get me wrong we all earn or money but us little guys deserve a break too.

"Take from those who earn it and give it to those who don't want to work for it. Share the wealth. That's bull!"

What a wonderful Christian thing to say. :)

Today's news comes as no surprise. My heart goes out to all those affected.

Regarding the impact that either Obama or McCain can have on the economy... anyone who believes that any elected official can do anything to help the economy lives in a dream world. If elected officials were truly serious about making things better, they would be focusing on how to right-size the government. You never hear of any government layoffs at the federal level. I am not advocating that, but redeployment of people to tackle our real problems is something that should be done.

polert, just another reason I won't vote for Obama. Take from those who earn it and give it to those who don't want to work for it. Share the wealth. That's bull!

"How does that apply to GM workers you ask, many will be looking at the same problems the plumber is."

uuuhhh, GM workers don't make more than $250K per year. That plumber was talking about buying a business that makes more than $250K per year. The 95% of Americans that make less than $250K would see a tax cut. Those 5% that make more will see their tax rate increase from 36% to 39%, the same as under President Clinton, and will get a 50% credit on health insurance.

Considering how poorly tinkle down economics has worked for the past eight years, Obama's plan puts money back in the hands of the people that spend money on those small businesses.

It is the good side of a tough thing for those people.Now they must move on. What worries me is what I seen today from Ohio were in a meet in greet a plumber/owner operator asked Obama why did he want to raise taxes on his business. Obama replied I want to spread the wealth. What I take from that is if a person works hard with blood, sweat, and tears he must share with those that never will. How does that apply to GM workers you ask, many will be looking at the same problems the plumber is.

I'd like to know why Mike Vaughn said they don't expect an announcement from Lear until December when the Lear employees were just told at a meeting that they are done December 23. Care to clarify?