Testerrific...in response to your comments about the "messiah"...I was responding to the post of russ68-Sept. 17 8:05 a.m. "Hey Joel, why don't you ask your messiah Obama..." And for the record, I did not accidently quote the bible...I did it on purpose. The next time you are "kickin it" with God, ask him about me...

whatdidyousay,
Your right on the money. A third party must be a grass roots movement to start. We need to see third party movement from the local level, to state, then we can take on the Federal movement. I always think its funny at election time when you see that the corner is either a Dem or a Rep...makes me laugh.

SarahB, you got me. I am shamed. Damn that FACTCHECK.ORG and their high-fallutin' ways. They make it hard on an honest and corrupt message board poster like myself. I guess I should have assumed that Raul Castro is a 'Zettester fan though, because I know he often comes to Janesville to "unwind", although lately not as often now that Screemin' Meemees is gone. And our local economy shall suffer, my friendshhhhhhh....

Testeriffic: Hate to knock you, but FactCheck.org reports that Fidel Castro's little brother does read these Gazette forums!

"Joel you get more dilousional every week."

Agreed - (if this post makes it - my last one disappeared...)

This article suggests "hoops". Well I would like to see voters held to a standard of legitimacy, and how can that be fraudulent? Padding the fraudulent agenda, to make an appearance of fraud....blah blah blah. Left wing always does this empty can rattling. I am a conservative, yes, but I wish for this nation to get away from "party-line politics". We need to simply vote as individuals, with our own opinions, and not forced to draw into a group. This partisan bickering gets us completely off the topics. Just watch the news (any channel), and you'll see. No one is getting anything done, yet we all know what needs to be done.
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I have my opinions about each party, but I still would rather vote according to the person on the ballot. There should be more people on the ballot at election day, but 'partisan' chooses who I have to vote for anyway!? Screwed up. I am an American first, and as far as I can see......both parties are in the tank, and continue with dirty tactics during election and voting processes.
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An "hourly wage" will not deter a person from trying to swagger an election anyway. Most election workers are good to the bone though I am sure! But.....Any person who 'mucks up' the voting process should be convicted of felony, and dealt with harshly.

Testeriffic:
I kind of dozed off reading your diatribe, after GW, Bush, FOX news...blah blah was mentioned for like the 8th time. It was a good rant and all. Good passion, but just came off as the usual rantings of a far left lunatic. No originality at all, just the same mindless comments over and over. Really kind of boring, I was expecting better, oh well. Not to worry; your buddy Bush will soon be out of office, and living large on his ranch in TX. Full government pension, full secret security detail, for life...All paid for by YOU! ;-)

If you are going to have a third party, it has to be built from the grass roots level up. Let us say that a third party candidate was elected president. Who is going to promote his agenda? Nobody! The democrats are not. The republicans are not. The president can't introduce a bill. With congress still a two party system, you would still have the same two parties bickering over the same things they currently are doing. Most likely we would still be stuck with the usual grid lock we now have.

Kiowamohican...you REALLY respect Usaret's comments so much? You really think he/she is so "on the $$$$$"???? Yes, yes, Usaret feverishly typed a lot of misspelled words and weird rhetoric, and thusly a lot of the context of Useret’s post could be lost on someone who simply got caught up in "lots of misspelled words and rhetoric". But I just want to post one quote from Useret's post, and I would like Kiowamohican to defend his/her "thumbs up" review. Useret said..."Regardless of who is elected President, it is our duty, yes I said our duty to respect and honor the individual who serves in that office." Kiowamochican, is this really a fascist notion that you support? Usaret, is this really an ignorant statement that you would dare post on a public message board????? Richard Nixon would have made you Chief of Staff . Adolf Hitler might have nominated you for the “Lil Hitler” prize. Oprah Winfrey “might” let you shine her shoes. Fidel Castro “might” have allowed you to trim his beard while dancing a sexy tango if he hadn‘t stroked out and handed over command to his little brother who does not read GAZETTEXTRA Message Boards. To be honest, Saddam Hussein probably would still have tortured you, but only because he was a big dirty bully who liked to torture people and didn’t fully understand how to utilize propaganda techniques on small town message boards…but more importantly, he didn‘t even care, that big jerk. And most certainly, GW Bush would have said “You are doin’ a heck of a job, Usarets-ie.” But GW would only say that because he is mentally challenged, and he is also our fearless leader that should not be judged in any way, according to Usaret. That comment from Useret is an OUTRAGE against our precious and constantly “dwindling Democracy“ under the GW Bush administration. Or as Fox News would describe it…”Patriotic Stuff”.

In all fairness, I would agree with the voter ID idea IF AND ONLY IF the IDs are furnished free of charge and to all those age 18 or over with voting rights. To charge for the ID will bring an end to the true right to vote.

Good post usaret.
I love your passion!
Your pretty much, right on the $$$$$.

Deltafox: BRING BACK PEROT, I agree!
A third party would be great. Maybe after things go into full meltdown mode after all these bailouts, people will finally have enough and start looking for alternatives to both these corrupt parties who have combined to run things into the ground.

Pretty basic reform just show a picture ID. This isn't rocket science folks. You gotta show two forms of ID to get cold medicine.

A third party? Wouldn't that be nice? Instead of having only two hucksters to choose from...Perot '08! ;D
All kidding aside, I think sometimes (myself included) that most of us are in the center on most issues. The problem is that both sides use their "lightning rod" issues to make elections so divisive. The old saying of God, Guns, and Gays comes to mind...can't we all just get along?

"It is fitting that Joel's political parties symbol, is a donkey."
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Yah...who ever heard of a good piece of elephant?

If you haven't seen, this it's worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3hUPP_bd...

Now we know the truth. This isn't about voter fraud. It's another excuse to bash the President. Golly gee, I thought we were making progress but as always, we have to bring it own to the lowest common denominator. Actually, it really doesn't matter if it's Bush or McCain because if either one walked on water the liberal side of the house would say it was just another trick fostered by the Republicans on the poor misguided people who do not have access to the wise and wonderful words of Bill Maher and Al Franken who speak of only hope, love, and the American way of Life.
Democrat's walk on water. They do not stoop to falsification. The do not commit voter fraud. They are the answer.
I just for once would like to see the Democrat's take responsiblity and admit they make mistakes, that they are not the perfect party (Jimmy Carter comes to mind).
Regardless of who is elected President, it is our duty, yes I said our duty to respect and honor the individual who serves in that office. We donot have lower our standards to such disgusting name calling as has been going on.
If you are so filled with hate, spite and venom, as many of these comments reflect then, it is understandable as to why the rest of the world looks at us as a bunch of fools who are only good for sending them money and fighting their wars. I apologize if I'v insulted anyone but then again remember, you may have insulted someone also. It's a two-way street out there.
With this said, this will be my last comment on this subject, probalbly to the relief of a few, but this wonderful opportunity to take steps to correct mistakes, eliminating voter fraud is being wasted just because we want to bash the other side. Well, go for it and if there is voter fraud in this election, don't complain. Attempts to eliminate it were foiled again by typical bitterness and hate and fear. Or, is this the new American way to run elections???? No one will be denied the chance to vote but by God, it would be and should be nice to now that it was a LEGAL VOTE.

Yep, Mr. Maverick has done a nice job of taking from the Master's (Karl Rove) dirty political, win at all costs, cheat if you must, power is everyting,, tricks playbook

This doesn't surprise me in the least. Americans are tired of the Republican BS that's been shoved down our throats for the last sevens years. They have to commit fraud, it's in their blood!!!

Well, if it is a republican trick then we learned from the EXPERTS

http://www.truthout.org/article/mississi......

Another Republican trick. The Republican's are really hoping the misinformed, or as my co-worker said the "information challenged" vote early and often. They know that is there best chance.

It is fitting that Joel's political parties symbol, is a donkey.

And I have to give my props to Janie7. She corrected my wordage with this comment: "Testerrific: 1st, I believe you mean 'preceeding' rather than 'proceeding'". Actually Janie, what I meant to say was "preceding". But thanks for the spelling test, Janie. Advantage....No One.

Bcitygrl3 wrote a heartfelt post about "American Unity", and pointed out how it is time to be "We The People", not fringe elements imposing their uneducated and biased opinions upon the electorate. It was a nice post, and I read it thoroughly. I read it so thoroughly, however, that I noticed she accidentally quoted the Bible at the end. Oops. I guess the outspoken fringe elements like Bcitygrl3 cannot keep their "unbiased" disguises up when it comes to politics, even in the minimal context of a short paragraph on a small town message board. Bcitygirl3, when exactly did Obama claim to be the Messiah? I gots news for ya, sister. He never did. That sounds like Cable News Network rhetoric to me (I won't say the name of the network that I suspect, but it rhymes with "Pox Poos"). He is NOT the Messiah. And I should know, because I mentioned in an earlier post that God talks to me personally, and lets me know what he thinks about the upcoming Presidential election and reality TV and stuff. Since BCityGirl3 is into this subject matter, let me update her on my day, because God and I were just hangin' the other day while we were watching his kid Baby Jesus perform admirably as the shortstop on his softball league. It is a youth league, but he still didn't do too bad if I may say so myself. He actually scooped up a heck of a well hit ball to end the 7th inning, and I must admit, as the team walked off the field to the tune of "Walk On Water" by Eddie Money, I got a bit goosebumpy. Then we all went to Shakeys for a celebration meal, and I must admit, those Mojos are heavenly. Literally.

Bcitygirl3: Thanks for having the guts to write what I have wanted to post for the past 24 hours. Most blue-collar communities overwhelmingly vote for the Democratic ticket. If that doesn't occur here in Janesville this Nov. 4, we will know why. (Okay, here comes the attacks ...)

People are so full of crap. Don't give me all this "voting is sacred", and all this non-sense. If it benefits your guy, your all for it. Just don't bore us with the ever so transparent platitudes. Vote fraud helps ACORN, and all these scam groups, elect Democrats. It's that simple, I saw it 1st hand, and no one cares. It will happen over and over in this state; as we have the easiest laws to fraud the system in the entire country.
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If anyone want to vote 3-4 times just let me know, I can tell you how its done. I saw kids do it 1st hand, and these kids weren't exactly the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.

JOEL MCNALLY, thanks for reminding me why I never read your misleading stories. Wow...

whybesad- Sounds worse than it is. For instance over 3000 of those are because registration cards were not entered into the database because they were missing information.

When does testerrific come back online, I'm the bartender that loves your posts! You funny man!

Sarah B there are problems with voter fraud here in Wisconsin. The Milwaukee Police department did an investigation on this from the 2004 elections. It's a pretty long report but, it shows that more votes came in than there were registered voters for one. I think it was like 4,800 more votes cast than there were registered voters. That was just in Milwaukee. Here is the link. Van Hollen is just doing what the law requires. Not looking the other way. Thre are problems and they should be fixed.
http://media2.620wtmj.com/breakingnews/E...

Janie

Yes, I have had plenty of time but I can also choose to wait...

unless it would somehow be tied to voting.

I am just saying, you can't change voting requirements last minute and claim it is fair. Some people need time to react.

I have read every comment here and I can only shake my head in disbelief. Contrary to popular belief, voting is a right guaranteed by the Constitution. Yes the right can be lost, just as the right to live free in society can be lost by obtaining a felony charge. Driving is a privilege. What frightens me more than the McCain/Palin ticket is the sheep mentality (based on some of these posts) of the American people. They hear a line on the news, Saturday Night Live, or on a blog and cannot be convinced that it is a lie, satire, or just a joke. They base opinions and votes on these things. What is depressing to me is the lack of concern for one another, especially for "we the people". Republican/Democrat/Independent is not a race, gender, creed, (although it has turned into red & blue colors), or any protected class. It is a political belief. It should not be an avenue of personal attack based on what side you are on. Obama is NOT the Messiah...the Messiah’s name is Jesus Christ. Obama merely wants to TRY to do things differently because what’s been the status quo IS NOT WORKING! But because of the color of his skin, there are those who want to derail his efforts by “any means necessary”… (Sound familiar to anyone?). (Gazette, get ready for an explosion of posts). The only thing that needs to happen has been spelled out by the Messiah: 2 Chronicles 7:14 “If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.” Go back and re-read these posts…we need a healing people…

whythink: also, I believe you have a limited time to change your driver's license...I've heard 30 days...& if you've been here a couple of years, you have had PLENTY of time to take care of this.

Actually voting is a right and some states have decided to take that right away when a person is convicted of a felony.

Each state is different
WI - while serving the felony sentence one cannot vote.
Others states allow felons to vote in prison
Other states - one felony conviction and never able to vote again.

whythink: where do YOU shop? my cards are also signed 'see photo ID', and the clerk almost always asks. Restaurants rarely even accept a check. BTW, I rarely drink, so it's not at liquor stores.

Also, the voter ID put before WI had questions about non-drivers getting ID covered, without unrealistic stress on any potential legitimate voter. How do you think non-drivers get to the polls anyway? They have to PLAN AHEAD

whythink - "Voting is a right not a privilage." I understand your point, but voting is actually a privilage that can be lost (i.e. - convicted felons). There are (very few) circumstances, but the right to vote can be lost. I agree strongly that undue hardships shouldn't be put on people that in practicality remove people's opportunity to vote. But . . . it also seems resonable for people to be able to verify their identity to take part. So, yes if you've recently moved or your info has changed, this may mean that you need to make an extra to get current so on voting day you're good to go.

How many times since the 2000 election have attempts been made to clean up the voter registration system not just in WI but the USA? How many times has it been hampered by political politicing saying it is been done to prevent the poor, the old, the who knows what from voting?
We have had 8 years to reform the system and we still are at day one in this reformation. In this day and age it would seem you would want to find out that there is an error in your registration BEFORE YOU GO TO VOTE, whether its 6 weeks or 6 days. Not all problems will be solved but it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO INSURE THAT YOUR VOTER REGISTRATION IS CORRECT AND UPTO DATE. This way, we make it harder if not impossible for voter fraud. Make a phone call, write a letter, send and e-mail, go in person and ask the voter registration Department if there is any problem. Don't wait till the last minute and then cry foul because of an error in your registration. Solve the problem before it bites you in the proverbial posterior. If you value your right to vote as well as my right to vote then we need to be sure that no one else is stealing our vote.

voter photo ID has been brought up, much much earlier than now, & it was vetoed by Dole. Google "WI voter ID"

Janie

Where do you shop?

I can't think of a place (besides a liquor store) that has asked for my ID. I use a checkcard that says "SEE ID" in the signature spot and still - nobody asks.

The big thing is giving people enough notice to meet the requirements. For example, I moved a couple years ago and I am waiting for my license to expire before getting a new one with the correct address. If WI decided to make it a requirement for voters to have a current ID with correct (voting registered address) on it I would need some notice. I am a middle class person with a car and I still would want notice because of the time and money involved. Someone living in poverty - they would need more notice and some assistance in getting the ID.

I don't want voter fraud but every person who can vote should be able to without ANY difficulties. Voting is a right not a privlege.

To all those "trying" to communicate with Testerrific; stop, it is a waste of your time. His daily auditions for the position of bathtub boy #2 on MSNBC should alert you to his level of thought [lack there of].

I have no problem with some form of ID being required to vote, but it needs to be done in such a way that everyone who wants to vote is able. Policy changes to voter requirements in the final weeks leading up to the election doesn't give those who need to meet these new requirements the time to get qualified to vote. A change in policy needs to be addressed well before the election to ensure everyone who wants to vote has the time to properly qualify. It seems to be, especially during the last few elections, that as soon as polls favor one candidate over the other, the talk starts to heat up about changing voter qualification policies. There is no reason this can't be worked through before we get within 6 weeks of an election. If AG Van Hollen had issues with voter laws, he could've brought this up back in the winter or spring, not now.

voter photo ID should not be a threat to anyone. Most places won't even accept your check without ID. As for no problems with the voter rolls: I know for a fact because I saw it on the roll list every time I voted: when my daughter married a few years ago, she not only changed her name, she also moved out of state. Yet, she remained on the voter list here for over 2 years. And yes, she filed all the necessary paperwork to change her driver's license, etc to her new state within 2 weeks of her marriage & move. Anyone who knew this could have simply showed up at our voting location, said they were 'Suzie Q' and voted. Anyone who knows anyone who has moved could do this, with out actual proof they are who they say they are.

I agree that we deserve an honest voter system, but I am far from convinced that Wisconsin's present system even has a problem that needs to be fixed. Leave it alone and just let us vote! I learned via a letter the other day that even my voter registration has been red-flagged! I was shocked. According to the letter, my registration took place before 2003 and, therefore, did not include my birth date. I now have to supply this in order for my vote to count. I will do so, but I think this is incredibly bad timing (too close to the upcoming elections) to be undertaking this overhaul of the voter system. Meanwhile, just to counter all of the attacks on Obama. I have watched both conventions, am presently reading every single word of both candidates' platforms, check FactCheck.org daily, and have all four debate dates marked on my calendar. I will be making an informed choice and I will be voting for Obama.

Is every election from now on going to be contested as being election fraud caused by the winning party? Why can't the problem be solved? Why does one side always say that taking steps to prevent voter fraud denies their sides voters the right to vote? Why do I not have the right to feel secure that my vote counts and is not corrupted by ineligible voters? Why must every election be tainted by cries of voter fraud? This is now the 21st Century and we still can't feel secure in knowing our vote counted because of articles by the likes of Joel who cares less about the voter and more about the PARTY. Maybe this is why so many don't vote because of the doubt in our system being fair. I will vote this fall and my candidate may win or lose but as a voter I have the right to know that win or lose my vote was not negated by an illegal voter who could have been stopped if steps had been taken to verify that persons vote. These are not the talking points of FOX NEWS NOR MSNBC or political commentators but are my views. If we are not willing to make an honest effort to stop voter fraud then why should any of us bother to vote? ALL LEGAL VOTES SHOULD COUNT. IS THAT REALLY ASKING TOO MUCH OF OUR VOTING SYSTEM?

Testerrific: 1st, I believe you mean 'preceeding' rather than 'proceeding'

2nd, because any particular post represents a more conservative perspective does not mean the writer is only capable of "regurgitation". It is actually possible-even likely-that the writer has studied the issues, watched BOTH conventions in entirety, verified what they've viewed & read via both primary and independent sources, and then concluded that in this election cycle, McCain is the candidate for them.

Janie7, you are incorrect. I only itemize the Republican agenda based on the content of the posts. The proceeding posts that elicited categorization from Testerrific were clearly Fox News inspired. There was no thought process involved, only regurgitation of the Rupert Murdoch/Roger Ailes agenda. And I don't expect anyone to agree with me, to be honest. There is no one else left to agree with me. I think DEAL OR NO DEAL was just on the other night, and tonight I think AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL might be on, or the newer, better BEVERLY HILLS 90210. Who has the time to agree with me these days, with such great television to watch instead???

Testerrific: so anyone who disagrees with you is a Fox News puppet, and anyone who agrees with you is an independent thinker?? Now that's real open-minded--so open-minded your brains are falling out.

Okay, SHUTUPANDFISH has stumped me. I am trying desperately to figure out if he is imitating Bill O'Reilly or Sean Hannity here. Okay, I give up. Which one is it, SHUTUPANDFISH? It was such a dumb post, I think it might be the evil spawn of both. Seriously people. If you want cogent responses from the great Testerrific (who, as previously mentioned, has been declared the new spokesperson for God by Mr. God himself) please stop with the Fox News rhetoric and establish an opinion for yourself. Hey now, believe me or disbelieve me my friendshhhhh, but my words are coming directly from that big marshmallow in the sky called "God". If you argue with me, you might go to Hell. Or at the very least, you might go to Beloit. But I have to go now...Baby Jesus has a softball game in an hour, and me and God want to make sure we get good seats this time. You can call it "heaven" all you want, but trust me, you don't want to get to that softball game late and get stuck in the upper tier seats sitting behind Indira Gandhi and Benazir Bhutto endlessly arguing over who got the better parking spot. I just want to watch the game.

You just go ahead and vote for a guy who hangs out with convicted felons and homegrown terrorists. And then there is that Preacher that church he belonged to but, had NO idea that the preacher was preaching anti-American sermons. But, hey this is America and we have the right to vote for ever we wish thanks to people like retiredairforce who have sacrificed so much for our freedom and thanks to John Macain for sacrificing 5 1/2 years of torture and fighting to make America great. When Obama says he wants to make this country great again it makes me sick. THIS COUNTRY IS ALREADY GREAT!!! And if 143 days in the Senate qualifies you to be President than I guess you can vote for that man. If you think the democratic lead congress has done what they promised in 2006 and you think they did what they promised then so be it. If you think Obama can reach across the isle and work with either party (96% voting record along party lines). Obama has never shown that he can reach across the isle and put his Country first. But, that's just what I have seen from his voting record. ISN'T AMERICA GREAT!!!!

And I want to respond to RETIREDAIRFORCE personally. He said "Having served in the military is one of the many reasons why I will not vote Obama; this from insight on what a Dem President does to the military." LOLOLOL. RETIRED, I definitely respect the fact that you served our country in a military capacity. That is a truly admirable thing, and I mean that sir. But after reading your post, it is now obvious you are just a weird, right-wing HAWK. Was that always the case? You wanted me to ask questions of you, so that is the question I have for you. Even Robert McNamara owned up to the evils of his Hawkish ways in the great Errol Morris film THE FOG OF WAR from a number of years ago. Great documentary. I recommend it to all of the readers here. But sadly, RETIREDAIRFORCE, it is obvious you would still vote for John McCain even if he chose an unqualified chick from Wasilla Alaska who wears lipstick and can see Russia from her house as his running mate, as ridiculous as that scenario sounds. Your opinions on the upcoming election no longer mean anything to me. But again, thanks for your great service to our country. And I really do mean that. And rent THE FOG OF WAR. Please.

This is Captain Testerrific back online. Just so you all know, I was told by a guy that knows a guy whose wife reads the Janesville Gazette message boards that her librarian's monkey trainer said she heard that a guy in Brodhead knows a guy that said his wife's hairdresser knows a bartender that loves my posts. So I would be remiss to not respond here. I have read all the posts here, and God has told me that I must respond, because he has annointed me as the chosen one to dissect this discussion board nonsense. Just think of me as GW Bush without the booze. God has instructed me to start with this, and just so you right-wing knuckleheads can find a perspective here, I will offer it for you now, free of charge, because I am Testerrific. Follow me now. There will always be corruption in the electoral process. That is what Democracy is all about. This has pretty much become known as the "Joe Kennedy Caveat". But there is a DISTINCT difference between...(1) locally based Democrats handing out cigarettes in Milwaukee to get votes from the homeless that they ultimately cannot even prove they actually got in the end...and (2) Republicans hacking into, and corrupting, the Electronic Voting Systems of our new "futuristically untested" electoral process to allow GW Bush a reelection. Exit polls have always been a relatively relative source of Election Day outcomes...but that all changed in 2004, didn't it? Yeah, yeah, I know all the "Sean Hannity" wannabees on this board will now respond with their typical "prove it Testerrific" kind of posts. To those geeks, God has instructed me to respond thusly... "THIS IS TESTERRIFIC, AND CHANGE IS COMING MY FRIENDSHHHHHH. MY FRIENDSHHHH, CHANGE IS COMING!!!!"...Oh wait. That was accidentally my John McCain imitation. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! Oh that Testerrific...he is an ABSOLUTE stitch, my friendsshhhhhhh! And since we are kind of on the topic, God told me to tell Sarah Palin to give her kids some condoms. For God sakes.

Yeah, go obama, go away! France would be a good place for him to be president, it's more in line with his ideas of socialism.

Go, Obama, go!

futerrichguy...Playing lose with hyperbole and ridiculous claims of disenfranchised Vets with no home and money, self-determining they will be refused a chance to vote; is this your way of supporting the current broken system of voting laws or is this your way of supporting Veterans?

Oh no! They foiled our plan in "creating even more delays at urban polling places." The right-wing conspiracy is at it again!

proartist for president!!

shutupandfish:
That's also something that SOME REPUBLICANS need to figure out, as well.
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Nice try, though.

Thank you Testerrfic. It's nice to know you actually watch FOX News. But really, I don't need talking points from the right or left. All that one has to do is look at both sides and make a determination what is fact and what is fiction. The media is biased, that is a fact. Colleges are biased, that is a fact. Unions are biased, that is a fact. And since they agree with your perceptions then the other party must be wrong. They must be the ones who commit voter fraud. Tell us, what would you be saying if the Supreme Court had voted in Gore's favor? Would they have been the bad boys? Try to be honest. We may or may not have the same problems but say they were would you defend him or ----well that's up to you.

bill maher, is this really you writing "articles"?

What a funny article. This guy should get a gig in comedy after his journalism career goes belly up.

Let’s see here, according to Joel, Republicans commit voter fraud because they keep exposing Democratic voter fraud. Zut alors! this could be the new definition of “chutzpah”.
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We’ve had other threads on voter fraud, and I challenged all comers to provide independently verified cases of Republican voter fraud. As you should expect, there were no takers. I, in turn, provided many verified cases of Democratic voter fraud. That pretty much shut up the thread.
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I don’t know that we’ll be hearing much more from Joel. Nobody can keep up the massive ingestion rate of drugs that he does and keep on writing. He’s so far out there now, he must be submitting his columns via reentry capsules. He’s not just a joke, he’s become a very bad joke.

Some people join the military because they actually love their country and our freedom. Something that SOME liberals have yet to figure out.

shutupandfish

Some people question the government and criticize the government because they hold this country and this government to the highest standard.

The love of this country doesn't blind them of its faults.

Criticism doesn't mean lack of love. Heck, I am critical of those closest to me because I love them. If I didn't love them I wouldn't care if they made mistakes/didn't live up to their potential.

proartist...You hit the nail on the head. Dissention is discouraged in our country and any time your thoughts differ from the majority, whether you be a gun-toting Carabou Barbie or a liberal commie who hates the military, those thoughts are squashed. Politics in this country has become more of a sporting event than anything else. People have become so concerned with having their candidate win that they've forgotten to take a good look at the issues facing our country. The biggest story last week was Obama's lipstick on a pig comment, when we continue to see rising fuel prices, a tanking economy, and rising insurance costs. I have not once heard John McCain offer a solution to healthcare and education shortfalls. Please, folks, get your news from more than one source. I don't care if watch Fox News or MSNBC, but throw in a little CNN or World News Tonight. Read more than one newspaper, get more than one perspective. Just because you believe something doesn't mean it's best for the whole of the country. This could end up being the most important election in many of our lifetimes, so do your homework and really know who you're voting for. Don't just take one drug-addled talking head's view as fact.

http://www.vaiw.org/vet/index.php

shutupandfish: When ANY person/political party calls the other un-American or unpatriotic, it closes the door to participatory democracy and points out a lack of confidence in what democracy is all about - listening to the least of our fellow citizens, giving all an opportunity to speak out without fear of being demonized, and lack of faith in it's own convictions. To say all liberals don't "love their country and our freedom" belies the facts for there are many liberal citizens in the military and many more who strive to preserve CONSTITUTIONAL freedoms which the Bush Administration has usurped and unraveled.

Some people join the military because they actually love their country and our freedom. Something the liberals have yet to figure out.

McNally keeps committing opinion fraud.
This less than fair minded individual was even too irrational to keep his job at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Hey Testerrific:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx....

Thats two references on this blog so far to back up the dem's voter fraud history in Milwaukee, not someone "seeming to remember".

Not real hard to find: Google "Milwaukee Voter Fraud" and you will see 123,000 results, many from AP articles.

Please give us another one of your blathering idiot comments about Fox News and evil Republicans, I do so enjoy it.

From the previous comments, I'm not surprised to see all the military types who support the Republican party and McCain. You would see the same support from folks of the petroleum and financial industries. Given that the US government no longer has a draft, the military has become a major employer and industry unto itself. Its sad that many former Vietnam vets who were drafted, and now are living in poverty, will be refused the right to vote because they have no permanent address and can't hold down a job due to mental health issues caused by the war.

If someone is truly worried about voter fraud why would you oppose the idea of having to show valid identification.

As usaret said, if I went to buy something at the store or applied for a loan, they are certainly not going to approve my purchase or application if I don't have sufficient identifacation to who I am.

If you have an issue with showing proper identifaction, it makes me wonder what you have to hide.

im not sure their partys but remember when mike donnelly, steve dodds, and sergeant savage exposed the whole voter fraud thing in the state of washington and helped secure the governors office for al donnelly?? that...was...AWESOME...

Testerrific...Having served in the military is one of the many reasons why I will not vote Obama; this from insight on what a Dem President does to the military. I always love how wacko-fringe types declare people "supposed" instead of coming right out an saying what they want to...accusing them of fraud, but only when they have views that oppose their own. If you have doubts ask...don't be scared.

Whoanellie said this..."Wasn't there a big story during the clinton's campaign for president about the Dem's voter fraud? I seem to remember something about that." You seem to remember this, huh Whoanellie??? Where is your evidence, Whoanellie? These are typical "Fox News-esque" tactics to propel completely unfounded propaganda into cyberspace in an attempt to make silly notions stick into the pasty consciousness of the ignorant, knucklehead American electorate who watch DEAL OR NO DEAL every Monday without ever reading a newspaper. And then, when this vomitous nonsense is ultimately proven to be unfounded, people like Whoanellie simply respond "well, I just thought that it was something I thought I heard one time. It was my right to say it. Because, you see, I am fair and balanced".

Yeah the same Chicago where Obama came from. Makes you wonder how he got elected there doesn't it.

Reading this article reminds me of why lions eat their young. WOWSERS this guy is LOONY!!!

Joel Mcnally is the most vile of left wing idiots. He has been expousing his simple minded hatred for several decades and he ran out of material a long time ago. I stopped my Gazette subscription several years ago because I refused to pay to bring this less than useful idiot into my home.

Wasn't there a big story during the clinton's campaign for president about the Dem's voter fraud? I seem to remember something about that. I think it's both Republicans and Democrats. What about that big thing in
Milwaukee about giving out cigs for votes? I have a friend who told me years ago that she is from chicago and they vote early and often, even if their dead!!!! I like to feel my vote counts, so I do my civic duty (priviledge) and vote. I think this Joel has a bias??? Thank you Retired airforce for fighting for my freedom I appreciate you and shame on testerrific!!! How dare you insult someone who went out and did a job you obviously wouldn't for the best of others. And a job you know nothing about!!! Those of you who don't vote have no reason to complain when it doesn't go the way you think. Get out there and vote!!!!!

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx...
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Hey Joel, why don't you ask your messiah Obama about ACORN? He is after all, basing his qualification to be President, in part, on his "experience" as a community organizer...

I always love "supposed" ex-military men like "RetiredAirForce" who still support the War in Iraq. You are the kind of people who should have the wonderful, horrible insight to not be supporting John McCain and Sarah "I Can See Russia From My House" Palin. Shame on you, sir. Shame.

"Testerrific's" comments are brought to you today by the Daily Kos, Move On "dot" org, Huffington Post, and MSNBC's very own failed sportscaster Keith the "bathtub boy" Olbermann.

I learned long ago that anything written by Joel Mcnally is not worth reading. Save yourself the time and effort and head to the comics.

"Usarets'" comments are provided by the Fox News Channel, and Roger Ailes has approved this message. Honestly, I originally thought it might have been Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly typing that post, but the spelling is a shade better than their rhetoric would have been. Personally, I can't wait for the wonderful, horrible upcoming Presidential election. "Republican Electronic Voting Corruption" MUST have been perfected by now. And if it hasn't quite been perfected yet, I hope the African-Americans know that they will be chased away from the voting booths again like they were in 2000. The Republicans weren't as organized in 2004, and thus they couldn't coordinate the exit poll results with the outcome. But in 2008, I am sure McCain/Palin will win with 99 percent of the vote. And then people will still say that it was the will of the people. Once again, it will be a true "Triumph of the Will"!!!!

I e-mailed this Joel guy. I guess slashing the tires of republican vans is acceptable. I guess handing out cigarettes to homeless people to get their votes is acceptable (if they vote for democrats). This guy is just really just a whack job. Don't try to fix it Joel just blame the republicans. What a moron.

Agree completly with RetiredAirForce. As for Joel, apparently, it is only the Republican side of the house that is committed to fraud. If a Republican wins an election, based on your commits, it is because of voter fraud but if a Democrat win's, it's the peoples choice. Do not Democrates commit fraud also or are they just perfect?
If individuals want to commit fraud, they will. It's not always a democrat or republican but possibly a group who want to disrupt our ability to vote FAIRLY and they are willing to take however long it takes to insure that they system we pride ourselves on is destroyed.
The right to vote is a priviledge and a person should have confidence to know that legal and proper actions/steps have been taken to insure that that vote counts. If registration information is wrong, then it needs to be corrected. What is so hard about that?
No person will be denied the right to vote as long as it is a LEGAL VOTE. As for people not voting, that is their problem. People will use any excuse for not voting and if blaming the otherside works, they go for it. Voters provide proof to open a credit card accounts, they provide proof when cashing a check at the store, they provide proof of who they are when buying a car or a home so what is the big problem with providing proof that you are eligble to vote? You seem to be awful busy looking for excuses as to why a republican won over a democrat while actually ignoring the fact maybe your candidate was not the one people wanted to represent them. You should be happy that there are people out there who are looking for ways to stop voter fraud. REMEMBER, IT ONLY TAKES ONE VOTE TO MAKE THE DIFFERANCE IN AN ELECTION. COULD THAT BE YOUR VOTE OR IS IT THE VOTE OF SOMEONE WHO VOTED FOR YOU? What do you do then? Write another column about nothing being done to insure there is no voter fraud or just continue to blame the Republican side for stealing another election? In other words Joel, your all talk and NO ACTION.

Joel you get more dilousional every week.