"Green" definition a gray area
'Greening' Wisconsin's Workforce
What: A report released this week by the Center on Wisconsin Strategy.
The challenge: Creating and retaining high-quality jobs, developing appropriate training programs and making sure both are accessible.
Why: “The task is enormous, and urgent,” according to the center’s report. Wisconsin lost nearly 73,000 jobs in the last 12 months, with more than half of that loss in the last four months.
The state’s manufacturing sector lost more than 14 percent of its job base between 2001 and 2004. It lost an additional 13,000 jobs even before last fall’s economic collapse.
To learn more: Visit www.cows.org. A link to the report is on the “think and do” tank’s home page.
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John R. Beckord
JANESVILLE You can’t talk to a politician without hearing the phrase.
You can’t turn on the TV or pick up the paper without seeing it.
“Green jobs.”
Every day we read and hear about how green jobs are the future and how we need to bring them into our community.
“There’s no question that interest (in green jobs) is very high,” said John Beckord, president of Forward Janesville. “But the next question is ‘what is a green job?’”
The Janesville Gazette asked Beckord about the kinds of “green jobs” that could replace the manufacturing jobs disappearing in Rock County.
Janesville’s not the only city that wants to land that kind of work, Beckord said. States and communities across the United States are competing fiercely to land jobs that can be defined as green.
What do you mean, green?
This week, the Center on Wisconsin Strategy, a self-described “think-and-do-tank”, released a report on the future of green jobs in the state.
The report was intended to define a green job and outline the urgency of bringing them into Wisconsin.
In part, the center defines green jobs as:
-- Being based on renewable energy.
-- Including energy efficiency building retrofits, mass transit, smart grids, wind power, solar power, advanced biofuels, environmental remediation, waste management and urban agriculture.
-- Paying more than poverty-level wages, offering benefits and having good working conditions.
-- Looking like many of the jobs Wisconsinites have always held but with added “green skills” or technologies.
-- Requiring more than a high school education but less than a four-year college degree.
Part of the problem of defining a green job is trying to define something that’s yet to be created, the Center on Wisconsin Strategy reported.
The center encourages communities to define “green job,” create a baseline and start measuring growth.
Where they land
Like any business looking for a home, those that paint themselves as “green” have some basic requirements.
They have a “decision matrix like any other business,” Beckord said.
One early key is the cost of things in the supply chain: machines, vendors, transportation, land and wages are just a few, he said.
Another basic need is a talent pool. Companies aren’t just looking for workers. They are looking for workers who can adapt to new technology, he said.
“It’s often a mistake to think that companies are only looking for bodies,” Beckord said. “They’re looking for skill sets. If they were only looking for bodies, they would go to Mexico.”
By working with technical colleges, communities can develop specialized talent pools and be more likely to be noticed when green companies look for new homes, Beckord said.
But it will take more than that, he said.
Nearly every state has an incentive program to land producers of alternative energy, Beckord said.
Many are extremely aggressive, he said.
Yes, Janesville can bring in new “green” manufacturing jobs.
But, “we’re going to need an aggressive participation by the state,” Beckord said. “There’s no question that local government is most ready to entertain that.”
Beckord’s job, and that of local officials, is to spread the word about Janesville’s workforce to potential businesses.
In May, a team from Janesville will go to Chicago to call on site location specialists, people who are hired by companies to find locations for them.
Beckord and others working on local economic development also will attend industry-specific trade shows and work through current business partners to find new leads on businesses, he said.
Is it for real?
As interest grows in green industry, one question remains about its future—and its present:
How real is the demand?
“How big is that market?” Beckord said. “That’s the question everybody’s asking.”
While it might seem like everyone’s talking about the need for high-performance, fuel-efficient cars, it remains to be seen how many people will buy them, he said.
Investing in unproven markets puts the investment risk in the hands of the business owners, Beckord said.
“If you’re investing your own money, it’s hard to get a picture of how rapid growth will be and how sustainable it will be,” he said.

Apr 20, 2009 at 8:56 a.m.
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I think we should use all the resources up now to avoid a prolonged downturn. Sort of like ripping a Band-Aid® off fast, rather than slow.
Apr 19, 2009 at 6:54 p.m.
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Bring on the jobs!!!!
Apr 19, 2009 at 11:54 a.m.
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booch11 don't worry about the demand. Through govt passing cap-and-trade [it is coming] this will provide a demand; govt driven, not consumer driven. Then the claim will be that "they" created jobs without noting the bigger job loss through the same cap-and-trade regulations. Soon the CO2 we exhale will be regulated...in the name of a global warming crisis (sic).
Apr 19, 2009 at 11:42 a.m.
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booch11, you may not want to get your information from wherever you get it, because it's completely wrong.
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For starters, the hidden part of the equation in any of these discussions is the already enormous taxpayer subsidies that go to non-green industries and projects. Does anyone ever demand that a highway survive without a subsidy? Of course not. But it provides an enormous subsidy to the automobile industry, and the billions of federal dollars spent on the Interstate system killed the passenger rail industry in this country. So certainly "you and me" are sustaining an environmentally-unfriendly industry through our taxes, without even counting all the other support that goes to industries that depend on non-renewable energy sources, or job benefit subsidies like the impending handover of GM pension funding to the US government pension redemption office. That certainly costs money and pretending it isn't part of the balance sheet is cooking the books.
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So if we create a TIF district, say, so that a green industry can come to town and redevelop the GM site, shouldn't we also count all the other 25+ TIF districts that Janesville has created over the years, in almost every case subsidizing a non-green development? One slight change in emphasis, and all of a sudden taxpayer subsidies are anathema.
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Obviously you're tainted by your bias that anything "green" is also "left". The entire point of green anything is that we all benefit or we all suffer together through our collective impact on the environment. Whether it's pollution that we all breathe, chemicals that we all drink, or non-renewable resources that we all pay to move from the other side of the world (and we may as well count the blood of American soldiers protecting our access to those resources), we are all affected, regardless of politics. That's the part that some people refuse to accept.
Apr 19, 2009 at 11:30 a.m.
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Absolutely.
Apr 19, 2009 at 10:30 a.m.
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the problem is, there isn't a huge market for green stuff (whatever it may be) -- and this despite a relentless message from everywhere (seriously, everywhere you look, you see or hear the green message).
yet, without government subsidies, green jobs are not sustainable.
government subsidies prop up companies that would otherwise, quite possibly not succeed.
so, me and you sustain them through taxes.
good ideas and good products are by definition sustainable. people want them. so people buy them
what a concept.
yet, much of the green agenda needs government assistance to be sustainable.
and the products are forced upon us.
one last comment, if some of these government supported, green companies, actually become profitable, and the CEO's get wealthy, will the left hate them too?
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