News flash
god didn't make you
a sperm and an egg did

And I am quite certain there isn't ANYTHING any of can do that would shock and awe him! Those emotions are only of the judgmental people on this earth.

Ya know what? I consider myself a Christian. Granted, I ain't the best of one, but, heck, who is?
I don't run around preaching to anyone, I don't ask anyone to come to my church, I don't sit there and tell you that your "God" is wrong.
Ain't doin' it.
God didn't make me perfect because He has a heck of a sense of humor.

MIKKIE and FAN - LOL

I know when I drink it, it chases the devil out of me!!!

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RSR----If you only knew....LOL

It must be holy, because after drinking just a little bit of it, I become the nicest person and I just LOVE everyone! I suggest trying it. :o)

Wow, Knapp sports a mini-mullet?! Now I wish I were god! Gnashing of teeth, for sure. ;~)

Sorry about those lottery numbers Mikki but you still have a better chance of winning a million bucks than some of the grumpy grumpersons below have of convincing me that they have a special relationship with the almighty ruler of the universe.

RSR, now you're talking some serious holy water!!!

jnvlhtr asked me what Knapp looks like since they must have thought my story of my parents divorce and seeing Knapp and how terrible he is at what he does. Well jnvlhtr he is tall, I would say 6'3" or 6'4" probably about 200 pounds and of average build, brown hair kind of like a MacGyver style but not as long in the back, no facial hair, and i've never seen him wear classes with a deeper voice.

OH! And my God also let's me drink cocktails after a long day of rummaging! :)

G-FAN....yes, I do believe that worshiping someone other than "the GOD" can get his followers in BIG trouble! Although, my God lets me worship shoes and clothes! You would like my God!

Seems to me there are far too many people that think they are God. I would much rather goof up now and then and not be held at such a high regard. I try to stay out of trouble, but you know, it always seems to find me!
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Mikki....I am quite certain you MUST NOT be a Christian, because a CHRISTIAN wouldn't gamble now would they?? lol.

MIKKI....ROFLMAO!! That was funny!

G-fan, you're God?
Well, then I have a few bones to pick with you....about those lottery numbers...

RumageSalesRock, again with the sweeeetness!!! (What's with those other people? They think I'm the messiah and stuff like that. Can't that get them in big trouble?!)

Critics of Knapp have been saying all along that he and his victim were not on equal ground. He violated an oath that he agreed to uphold. And he later agreed with the decision to suspend him.

Knapp's defenders can't grasp the repercussions that would follow if he were allowed to escape this matter unpunished. We should all be astounded by that inability to grasp a very obvious truth.

That's right, RSR, readers will probably never know the facts surrounding the relationship. Tragic, nevertheless, especially if kids are involved.

Mockery is really annoying by the way! :)

Matthew, I actually find you and gazettefan humorous, but I do have to say, you saying FAN would most certainly assume that this therapist must be a christian....etc....is pretty much doing the same thing you would do by saying that a gay person must NOT BE a christian. Right?
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Fool....I do agree with you after reading your post. You got me, a therapist/client relationship isn't of the same level as a employer/employee relationship. I made a weak comparison there. I do agree that these rules are set forth for very important procedures to be followed, and someone seeking help can indeed be vulnerable to someone they see as a 'savior'. So, yes, this really is unethical....but I would at least like to believe that there is always more to the story, and from the newspaper, we will never know what truly took place. Right? It could be the worse case scenario, OR it could be a sincere relationship that evolved with the help of no one and unfortunately at the cost of consequences.

The christian intellectuals are on a role.

From the mentality of their posts and according to the odds at least one of them is a pedophile priest.

916WI, thank you so much for saying what myself and others have been posting since this article came out. The second coming of God a.k.a. gazettefan is so ignorant and yes you are right, we will hear from him in 10.9.8.7 because he has has to get the last insult and word in. Check out his other 4,228 postings and read some of his rantings on other subjects, it won't suprise you one bit! Oh and the name of a great therapist is Wendy Hein Drew. She is wonderful. Or if you prefer in 18 months Brad Knapp is really a great person and great therapist and I would not hesitate to refer him. As I have said we all have made wrong choices in our lives, and I thank GOD no one ever condemed me based on a few vague sentances in the all mighty gazette.

mathew516~ Outstanding! Ya know, I think the second coming of "ALLAH" is Darwin1 and Buddah Jr. is Prounion. How blessed can we all get?? Excuse me while I puke all over myself!

Doesn't anyone have anything profound to say without getting into a p*ssing match? Sheesh. So much hostility!

916WI..exactly! The more I think of it, the therapist who got suspended must be a Christian. People with Christian backrounds are the only people who would do something so dastardly! Don't believe me? The second coming of God will follow up with a post to this...fyi: (goes by the name gazettefan) Stay posted, and prepare for more wisdom than your body can handle in one day! Here's the countdown....10----9-----8---7........

Baybeegirl......you could very well be correct. We have a very limited amount of information to work with here. The gazettefan is all-knowing though. To be able to completely and accurately assess a situation based on a couple of vague paragraphs pulled from a newspaper--why was I not blessed with these powers??? He has intimate knowledge of exactly what went on with both parties, is privy to their history and frame of mind and is much wiser than all of us combined. I dream of someday having the foresight of the gazettefan, but I know I'm only setting myself up for failure.......Does anyone have the name of a good therapist????:)

gazettefan- I have a great nickname for you that's so fitting: "SIX FEET UNDER"!

I really don't see, I mean she could have said she didn't want to have a sexual relationship with him, its not like she had no choice.

Maybe he wanted to stop having relations with this woman and she got pissed about it, so she ratted him out or whatever

The only thing I would say is, why isn't this same code of conduct applied to politicians. Run as a moral person and then cheat on your wife you are impeached and can't run for office EVER again or run your mouth on TV. . Its seems that its easy for everyone but a politician to lose their job.

RummageSalesRock, on this particular issue, your gentle and tolerant disposition is clouding your well established good judgment.

Professional ethics must never allow compromise, especially in the therapist/client relationship, which enjoys legal protection of confidentiality. True, the violation allegedly occurred after therapy had ended but if compliance is subject to opinion and circumstance then what does this assure the next client or any other therapist's clients?

Gazettefan is correct, this situation is not comparable to a boss/subordinate relationship. It's not simply about two adults or whether either of them is "evil". I presume neither is evil. This issue is only about a code of ethics necessary to maintaining a healthy professional/client relationship. Nothing more.

Hey, stac1, how can we miss you if you won't go away?!!!

Well said Mathew! I will suggest not wasting your time "debating" with Gazettefan. It is a circle that will never end. He will always be right and will insist on having the last word.

Matthew...., one christian?! What about the thousands of others?! It's more of same from you, you can't talk on point.

As for your claim to be unaffected by the truth: good, then you won't cluttering up things with more of your nonsense anymore.

Don't pray for me; pray up a tree.

gazettefan, here's the deal...I'm not empowering you to have any influence on me. How do you like those apples? Your rants and hatred toward Christianity are cowardess at the very least. You think one Christian who steps out of line and makes a mistake defines every other Christian and that's a testament to your intellect or lack thereof! I choose not to draw an opinion of all athiests based on your ignorance. I'm above that. I'll pray for you!

matthew...., the pattern continues: If a poster here criticizes immoral and unethical people or criticizes bogus "professions" like psych-biz and the clergy-class, some other posters will, instead of articulating a defense for those people or for those "professions", slam the poster.

Justify why you are one of the posters who, instead of defending the people and "professions" under fire, slam the poster whose criticism is right on. ;~(

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RumageSalesRocks, another sweet and reasonable post from you. My only comment is to remind you that Knapp agreed to abide by the regulating body that suspended him -prior to and when the decision to suspend was made.

;~)

GAZETTE, I would also like to say, thank you for noticing my goal in life. To be a nice - non-judgmental person. That just made me smile. Nothing is ever black and white as much as we would like to believe it is, therefore, a multi-faceted perspective, in my opinion is necessary to make it in this world.

GAZETTE, OK, so my best girlfriends and my sense of peace are my therapists.....you got me. :) I have gone to therapy though, and did enjoy it, but did realize very fast that I, myself, knew what I should be doing, I just needed a kick in the butt to do it, stop feeling sorry for myself and move on. There are some out there that do need to hold someones hand throughout life, sadly, and they do benefit from the constant reassurance of a therapist. What I was getting at, was, whether it be a professional or a friend/family member, everyone can benefit from talking to someone. As far as referring a female acquaintance to this therapist, I can't answer that being there isn't enough information for me to form an opinion on his demeanor. IF this was a pattern with him, then by all means, no way, but if this just so happen to be two people meeting at the right time at the wrong place, I would have to say yes. Although, to be completely honest, if I were this women in the relationship, I probably would always "wonder" what he is up to. :)

gazettefan, why condemn all the people in the clergy? Have they lived a less than sin free life unlike you? Are you that sold on yourself you can say things like that? Your hatred and lack of wisdom has surely blinded you in life. It only makes sense that you would hide behind a keyboard as you squeak through life condeming everyone who doesn't agree with you. You should be in politics.

RumageSalesRock, well jvnhtr and schnnnstac1 are not "nice" products of therapy. I criticized Knapp for his putrid actions and all they can do is defend him and slam me. And Knapp's relationship with his victim is NOT comparable to that of a boss-employee relationship.

You've shown me that you are an inherently nice person. But somehow you've been bamboozled into believing you need a therapist. Don't you realize that you are paying someone to be a friend or "family member"? Even you let on that this is the case. You even believe everyone should be in therapy. Look what it's done for the particularly sour natures of Knapp's defenders: They clearly have made no progress but are now convinced that they are superior to people who don't need to pay someone to be a friend or "family member".

And now the question is for you:

Would you recommend Knapp as a therapist to a female family member or a female friend.

;~)

To the defenders of Knapp:

Read foolonhill's and lemke10's educational and articulate posts.

And it is duly noted in the record that jvnhtr and 916WI would have a female family member or female friend see for therapy a person who had his license suspended for having sex with a female patient.

FOOL, there is no denying there is a code of 'whatever', but this isn't the first relationship that has evolved from a patient/doctor encounter, and it won't be the last. Just as a boss and his/her subordinate. It may be wrong, in the handbook, so to speak, but in all reality, the patient/doctor relationship should be terminated, and possible the therapist should be reprimanded, but this is minor. If the therapist was a proven 'evil' person with ulterior motives, well then, that would be a different story.
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As far as seeking therapy, I LOVE my therapist! She HAS to listen to me! It is so refreshing to sit down and talk and not have to follow her around like I do my husband....haha. And she takes notes, so she doesn't forget what I tell her....my hubby forgets everything I tell him! Just kidding, but therapy is wonderful, and I thing EVERY SINGLE person could benefit from it....there is even therapists that can teach people how to be nice. :~)

Why are there two different stories? The Gazette states that the relationship started during treatment. The State Journal states that the relationship started after treatment ended. Which one is right?

It seems some people may be unclear on the concept of professional ethics. Many issues have debatable shades of gray. This is not one of them.

The consenting adults argument is irrelevant in this situation. The therapist's freedom to consent was waived with his express commitment to abide by a code of professional ethics. As for the client, it is the nature of such relationships to presume the client to be beyond the boundaries of any such consent. The reality of her state of mind or capacity to consent aren't even relevant or germane. The statutory rape analogy is a good one for understanding the client's presumed incapacity, but the therapist's responsibilities here are even greater, due to the presumption of ethical behavior by a professional therapist.

Hasn't our society seen more than enough decline and disintegration of professional ethics in recent years without granting anyone a free pass?

Lemke 10, what does Brad look like?

I too would refer ANYONE to Brad. Gazeetefan, Your a very small minded ignorant person who must live a lonely life full of anger and self hatred. Your are quite welomce schn. We both know that anyone who attacks someone for seeking help is in more need of help that either of us would ever be.

I personally think there are more important things to investigate. Remove her from his patient list, and move on!

When my parents got divorced us kids were seen by counselors throughout the 2 year divorce because of abuse in the house by our dad. We each had an individual counselor to tell them what went on. THEN the court appointed 1 main counselor to review all the records, determine visitation rights, etc. Well the court appointed him and let's just say the words of Stewie Griffin come to mind "what a douche!" He had this coming, still amazed though he treats people for substance abuse and he himself has a DUI from 2004. Oh and should I mention I work in a liquor store and I've sold him 30 packs of beer on a couple of occasions since I began in the summer of 07. Guess he didn't learn his lesson.

Gazettefan--I can't answer that question and neither can you, unless you have first hand knowledge of his abilities. If he was my therapist and helped me through a difficult time, I would have no issue recommending him to a family friend or family member. Get off your high horse and take a time out. We're passing judgment based on an incredibly small amount of information and it's not right.....

gazettefan, you mentioned leaving out the clergy re: counting on people in positions of moral authority. Til then, we had been on the same page-at least in the same chapter: a therapist in a position of trust, guidance, even authority to some degree-cannot change to a position of "suitor" when the mood strikes, no matter if encouraged by the "subject". It should hold true in any similar position: teacher, guidance counselor, principal, medical/mental health doctor, and, of course, even religious leader of any sort. They cannot mix their "guidance" and romantic sessions (yes, some do). I can't imagine anyone with any understanding of any of these positions, and what they are supposed to mean, could think otherwise. And on this, I'm sure we see eye to eye. And, as for me, the only recomendations I'd give for this guy is "Stay away." He's shown he's too weak to remain all business with his clients. Or wait the required time.
Now, for more personal views-it must be that the majority of people in these positions do just what their position calls for, or those positions just wouldn't be allowed to function in a respectable capacity as they still do, whether you like it or not. As adults, we're aware that each will have a very few slime who take advantage of their position-maybe even enter in to their profession because of these dishonorable opportunities. And I mean therapists, doctors, teachers, and clergy (and probably more). Oh yeah-even parents. You know what I'm talking about.
But if you have decided that it is the rule rather than the exception for clergy-then what about school teachers (I could tell you stories about a couple of my own), doctors, and yes, even parents? I have seen with my own eyes people being helped in wonderful ("spiritual" and non-"spiritual": financial, bereavement care, illness) ways by clergy/churches-and they weren't always pretty people, ripe for abuse. Whether you are a believer or not, you don't think that there are clergy who help people just because it is the right thing to do? You don't think there are churches that function purely for the good of the people they serve? I'm not talking about elaborate cathedrals; I'm talking about the little brown church in the valley (or whatever) with struggling pastors in worn clothes mowing the church property. Whether you believe or not, why would you want to take that away from people who do believe? If you know of abuses, I'm behind you in wanting to bring them to light, but if you knew what I knew, if you knew the clergy I knew as well as I do, you'd be having second thoughts-at least as far as believing they are all bad and self-serving. Now, what do you know that I don't that would make me see it your way? In each of these fields, most will be dedicated servants to their profession-don't let the slime (humans all) turn you against whatever field they make a mockery of.

nv...., your concern about my posts only reveals that your attempt to write one is a very difficult task. I am probably two or three times more active outside the home than you are. You and she also reveal that you both had and still have a severe inability to deal with other people. Also re: my remark about stac, it appropriately followed from her stupid comments about me.

Now here's a question for both you geniuses:

Would you recommend Knapp to a female family member or female friend for therapy? Neither of you will probably answer the question in writing here. But both of you will most certainly answer it in your heads.

jnv....., you left out that my remarks about stac followed from baseless insulting remarks from her.

And do you really know what you're doing when you reposted what I said about her? You haven't really thought this out, have you?

And here's the big question again:

Would you and stac recommend Knapp to a female family member or female friend who needed therapy?

Gazettefan, you accused me of making low life inuslts towards you by calling you ignorant, yet you are calling this woman and MILLIONS of others "losers" and "pathetic" because they turned for help in life? Those insults are as low life as it gets! After looking at your profile, I would venture to say that since you have made 4,228 posts you don't get out much and maybe you're the one who should get a life.

I would like everyone on this page to know that there is another page with this story on the Gazette web site that has a blog going. Our friend Gazettefan just posted this to a woman (schnckstac1 is her sign in name) and I am so disturbed by it I felt like I needed to share it with you on this page. Anyone who calls a person these names for seeking help is such a cruel creature.

"Another stac-attack. Your self-esteem is definitely too high if you think you are speaking intelligently about this matter. And you can't tell me anything about dealing with society, you are the loser who had to pay a stranger -an abusive person for that matter- to listen to your pathetic inability to deal with life. Grow up!"

Then if a female family member or female friend needs therapy, you'll have no problem with recommending Knapp, right?

I don't have a problem with this relationship in the least. For all of the Dudley Do-rights out there, take a deep breath and a time out! These were 2 consenting adults and for all of the posters whining about "he had the power" get a clue. In most relationships someone has the power. Whether it's money, social status, appearance, whatever......deal with it. The fact remains both parties consented.......Thanks for reading!

Hmmm, Clinton didnt get a suspension..Or anything for that matter.

Matthew516... I'll sound like a broken record once again... Accountability! He's suspended for AT LEAST 18 months. Obviously (at least to me) there is more to this story than is being reported. They didn't make the decision to suspend him pending further investigation. His license was suspended for a minimum of 18 months and he accepted the suspension.

It also sounds like he is no longer employed by Crossroads. I commend them for making a swift judgment to terminate his employment. While the eventual details get worked out, I will be watching for a criminal charge. I would also not be surprised if others come forward to report inappropriate behavior.

Just my opinion, standing on the outside looking in, but "me thinks" there will be more details that come out through the impending investigation.

I feel sorry for his wife and children.

Good luck. We automatically have to exclude many or all of the christian clergy.

Another great example of the type of character people possess these days. People are counting on people with some moral authority these days to step up and LEAD! Any volunteers???

Two to tango- yes.
But only one knowingly broke the law - no matter what kind of person or therapist he is. Hmmmm - therapist is a very interesting word if you add a space in the wrong place.

It does not matter if they were in love or if she started it...he knew he should not be with her for 2years. If you can't do the time don't do the crime. He needs to lose his license.

where is a photo? everyone else has their photo used with stories....

If they let him slide on this, it would open the door for the problem to increase exponentially. The problem would include certain low-lifes being drawn to the profession.

Why is this so hard to understand?!

Knapp Should not be banned at all. My guess is the woman lead him on. Stop bashing this guy people who don't know him shouldn't say anything

I don't care what anyone has to say Brad is a great counselor. He had helped me though allot issues a very kind person. People are people. People make mistakes. but I don't see this as reason were he should be fired. Hell I called there the other day to setup and appointment and they said he doesn't work there anymore. Now I know why.

Wookin po nub in all da wong pwaces....

schn......, is someone pointing a gun at your head?!

Patients do not sign a document that requires them to observe a code of ethics. Therapists do. There has been no penalty assessed against the patient for her actions. This is solely about the licensing authority of the state of Wisconsin.

When someone is depressed, that person is often more vulnerable; especially when she feels like someone really cares and has her best interests in mind. Brad took advantage of that. Regardless of how he felt about her, he should not have acted on any feelings or desires. It might not be an easy choice to make, but people in his care trust him to do the right thing. He made a mistake. He should face whatever consequences his licensing board have deemed appropriate. No more, no less. The woman was a victim.

So, are you saying because someone is depressed they are unable to make a rational decision? I mean really depression is such a broad diagnosis these days and A LOT of people use it as a cop-out. My son has ADHD, so does that mean I should teach him he has no responsibility in anything, I think NOT! Yes, he made a wrong decision, and he will have to pay for his mistake. BUT how DARE any of you make such harsh judgements!!!
All the cases that have been on here about child neglect and murder, I wonder if they used depression as an excuse you would have the same things to say? Depression is NOT an excuse for her behavior!

So what is the difference b/t the Milton school IT man who had "consenting" sex/relationship with a high school girl and the therapist who had sex with his so called "former" client? The high school girl is considered unable to make mature/rationale and responsible decisions to consent to sex. The client of the therapist is compromised by her emotional/psychologigal problems (illness???)and therefore not able to make rationale/responsible decisions either. I see no difference. The therapist took advantage of his client no doubt about it. The off limits rules has to apply in the same manner. Just think about it...our healthcare professionals (doctors,nurses,psychologist) are in a unique position of trust. They have insight into our vulnerabilities. There has to be limits and those limits must be respected and enforced.

Most people commenting seem to be arguing the merits, positive or negative, of the relationship itself. That's beside the point. It's a violation of professional ethics and rules, and a license is subject to suspension when those rules are violated. This individual knew what he was doing and will suffer the consequences.

The valid reasons for criticizing Knapp have been nicely stated by many posters. To those of you who keep asking the same questions, scroll down here, or at the other story, and read those posts again.

And then answer these questions:

Is there anything that prevents Knapp from publicly claiming innocence?

And is there anything that prevents Knapp from publicly making the mitigating defense of the actions for which his license was suspended that his defenders are making here?

Maybe he fell in love with her......

I see you just registered to comment on this story. If you have something to say, say it!!!

So, please tell us Tarheel!!!!!

but reality is.. ALOT of men dont use their brains
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And again, I said it was wrong based on ETHICS.. I dont think the man used his brain..but reality is.. ALOT of men dont use their brains, they base things off of their hormones.. I would totally agree here, if it had happened ONCE or even twice... but ONGOING.. is just to be blamed on both people. I do believe like any other "regular" job there are rules..and if the rules are not followed the employee is "dealt with".. nothing less should happen here....But, for people to pass judgement I believe is wrong... I refuse to believe that just because Brad is a therapist..he is above having feelings/thoughts about people... All I am saying here, is that we all need to be realistic and keep our minds open... nothing more nothing less

shop gurl~you do not understand the relationship between a counselor and patient. He was the one with power~~he is the one that should be held accountable here. Does not matter that it takes two~~it was he who should not have let it happened.

Honestly, it takes two people to enter into a relationship... BOTH knew what was happening..right wrong or indifferent people CANT blame just one of the parties. I will be the first to say that I believe that Brad should of used a bit more common sense..but who says you cant fall in love or begin to have feelings for a client? Ideal would say its CRAZY and not right..but we dont live in an IDEAL world. Who are we to judge either one of these people?? I do understand that what Brad did was wrong based on ethics..but otherwise.. like schnckstac1 says... "it takes 2 to tango".. they BOTH made an adult decision.. either punish BOTH or NONE at all!!

Ask Brad why he was let go from Rock County a few years back. Cannot even believe that he was hired by Crossroads.
Terrible.

schnckstac1~~I DO know Brad. When Brad was first starting out I saw him a few times (I saw him through the Rock County center) to help me deal with the passing of my father. I agree he was compassionate, etc. BUT, that does NOT excuse what he did AT ALL!!! He was the one in power in this situation and it was HIS obligation to not let this happen. He was the one that needed to maintain the boundaries set here. I'm sure you are aware of how clients can come to identify with their counselors and how some develop feelings towards them. It was Brad's responsibility to not let this happen~~the woman and her issues, how she dealt with this, waiting to report it, etc are irrelevant.

gazettefan, do you know either of them personally????

Social workers are supposed to upheld the NASW Code of Ethics. One of the ethics is to never breach the boundary of helper and client. Mr. Knapp clearly failed to uphold ethics within a helper relationship. And as such, he is being punished for his mistake. To assume he took advantage of his client is inappropriate. The helper client relationship is very intense and personal. Things are shared in that environment that normally wouldnt be spoken. The relationship between a helper and client can get pretty close and keeping that boundary clearly laid out is the responsibility of the helper. That said, I am sure the client had full mental capacity and was aware of her actions and took full part in the act. Just because she is depressed does not mean she is stupid.

To you defenders of Knapp: Why is it against regulations for Knapp to have had sex with her? Have you really thought about it?

And, again, it doesn't matter if she was willing (it takes two to tango), he wasn't supposed to let it happen! Get it?!

And, no, I didn't take pictures of any fire.

And to the person who'd like to have contact with perfection, you'll just have to settle for my perfect reasoning regarding this matter.

And to whoever downplayed the woman's depression: It must have been serious because Knapp took money for the treatment of that depression. Or are you accusing Knapp of inappropriately, illegally, and unethically taking money for a non-clinic disorder? Are you accusing him of insurance fraud? And what of the apparent therapy for sex implication? Was Knapp ripping her off and abusing her in that way too.

The more you people defend Knapp, the more and more guilty he looks of all kinds of bad things!!!

shnnk......, this would have never happened if Knapp maintained his ethics and decency. His therapeutic relationship began with her because she was in a weakened state.

I know Brad and I have NOTHING BUT NICE things to say about him!!! I have seen him and so have a few of my friends. He was extremely compassionate, real, and empathetic. The fact that he was seeing her for months before she informed Crossroads says it all. Did her husband catch her? Yes, maybe the relationship was against the rules, BUT I agree it takes two to tango. And as a woman(and I know most can understand!) I know how nasty and vindictive we can be when we're hurt or angry! This appears to be a clear case of a woman who got pissed and is gonna "show him". I will pray for Brad and hope that someone comes through for him! I will be right in the front row fighting for you!!!!!! It's the least I could do after all the help you provided me and a few of my closest friends!!!!!!!

Interesting co-pay.

"Role playing" is supposed to be a therapeutic technique. If the therapy "officially" stopped after the insurance payments stopped after which the the sex began, then there is a strong implication that the "stopped therapy" was a ruse and that the therapy continued in exchange for sex.

If this is the case, then Knapp had some perverse role playing going on in his head: He was both the pimp and the john as he transformed his patient into a "prostitute."

Permanent revocation for Knapp?! How about some prison time?!

What's most sad about this is that this woman no longer receives any mental health treatment that she apparently needs. When are we going to learn that our refusal as a society to provide mental health services has a huge cost?

The quote below from the State Journal highlights another outrage of psychotherapy and this matter: The therapy ends when the insurance payments stops. (The quote below contradicts the above story as to when the sex began but the sex was still tantamount to statutory rape in especially aggravating form in that the therapy ended when the insurance payments ended.)

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"JANESVILLE — The state Department of Regulation and Licensing has suspended the license of an advanced practice social worker from Janesville, saying he inappropriately had a sexual relationship with a client starting a week after she stopped treatment because she lost her insurance coverage."

And AgainwithThis:

Knapp's actions should be regarded as statutory rape in the same way that an adult having sex with a consenting child is statutory rape.

Great points, AgainwithThis.

And I should have used the word 'suspension' in my previous post.

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It is public information that Knapp worked at the Crossroads Counseling Center in Janesville at the time of his cause of suspension.

Ahhh, I just re read the article law prohibits any relationship within 2 years of ending treatment~~well, then he needs to be removed permanently as a therapist.

I agree with gazettefan. In most instances I would say it's none of the public's business who's having sex with who etc. BUT, in this case, this man is trusted to treat patients, create trust with them and help them with their issues. He is in a position of power with his clients and even if he truly wanted to pursue a relationship with this woman he knew better. If that was the case (wanting a relationship of any kind) then he had the ethical responsibility to remove himself as her therapist. Then, depending on the guidelines of where he works see her outside of the counseling center~~in my opinion this is even suspect but at least it wouldn't seem as if he was hiding it.

It is public information that Knapp worked at the Crossroads Counseling Center in Janesville at the time of his cause of revocation.

Knapp should have his license permanently revoked. By virtue of her original contact with Knapp, she was in a psychologically disadvantaged state. This is the sort of thing that subverts the effectiveness of therapy. It is the equivalent of an MD exploiting the physical integrity of a patient.

If Knapp works for a clinic, or whatever, it should be named.

IMO- this woman seems that she didnt possibly get what she really wanted, and sought out some revenge..Pathetic. It takes two people-TWO.

typical GAZETTE collum....give his name and all,,,,,, slander his name......

so? whoopi???

One question. Did he fix her problems? If so, who cares if he had sex with her....Nobody was upset when Bill Clinton was having "relations" with his staffer.