Grassroots group seeks $10 gifts to stave off local foreclosures

By JIM LEUTE ( Contact )   Saturday, Aug. 8, 2009
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For more information on the John Doe Movement or its "Rescue America Project," visit www.johndoemovement.org.

For more information on donating to the project, visit www.statelinecf.com or e-mail Tara Tinder at statelinecf@aol.com.

— A grassroots organization is asking every Rock County homeowner to donate $10 a month until the end of 2010 to help end local foreclosures and stabilize home values.

The John Doe Movement unveiled its "Rescue America Project" earlier this week. The project is a community solution to what's become a major community problem: skyrocketing foreclosure rates and declining home values, said Mike Rorabeck, who founded the John Doe Movement in April.

The group is tackling Rock County's foreclosure problem as its first project.

Rorabeck said Rock County has 58,617 households. A commitment from each homeowner to donate $10 a month for 17 months would generate nearly $10 million that Rorabeck said would put an end to future foreclosures.

On a monthly basis, a full commitment from homeowners would yield about $580,000 that would be available to help homeowners facing foreclosure modify the terms of their mortgage.

Rorabeck said the money would be collected by the Beloit-based Stateline Community Foundation and directed to Neighborhood Housing Services in Beloit. NHS is a private, non-profit organization dedicated to housing, lending and educational opportunities and resources.

Rorabeck said that NHS is the logical organization to receive money raised from the project.

"Helping people is these type of situations is what they do best, and we don't have to reinvent the wheel," he said.

Even though NHS is a Beloit organization, Rorabeck said money raised through the "Rescue America Project" would be available to help any Rock County resident.

The project's intent is not to pay off mortgages, he said, but rather to get help for homeowners in the pre-foreclosure stage. "Rescue America" monies would be combined with NHS funding to get homeowners current on their mortgages and then work with lenders to modify the terms of their mortgage.

"Too many people are getting nowhere with their banks," he said. "It's what NHS does best."

Applicants would be required to participate in budget and credit counseling at NHS and make their own $10 monthly payments to the community foundation.

Rorabeck, a real estate agent in Beloit, said the "Rescue America" project is not another bailout program. Instead, it's an opportunity to prevent future foreclosures and stabilize home values that in some cases have plummeted as a result of the increase in foreclosures.

Last year, Rorabeck sold three homes in the Janesville/Milton area that ranged in price from $465,000 to $590,000. All three buyers tried to refinance their mortgages after the first of the year, only to learn that appraisals dropped their home values by 10 percent to 20 percent.

"You think those people would have been willing to donate $10 a month to help stabilize their home values?" Rorabeck asked.

Rorabeck said he is a realist and knows that his group won't get a $170 commitment from all 58,000 homeowners in Rock County. The group, he said, will ask every church and business in the county for monetary support.

"Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I just think we need to come together as a community and work together to solve a problem that affects us all," he said.







reader COMMENTS (26)
MILO24
Aug 11, 2009 at 9:09 p.m.
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GREED,GREED,GREED! EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU ARE MISSING THE WHOLE POINT OF THE JDM. THIS MOVEMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BAILING OUT BANKS OR EVEN BAILING OUT THE RICH. NOT A SINGLE DOLLAR DONATED GOES TO THE BANK IT GOES TO THE NHS, WHICH IN RETURN GOES TO THOSE THAT NEED HELP, SO THEY DON'T LOSE THEIR HOMES. THE JDM ASKED IF YOU ARE FINANCIALLY ABLE AND ARE PAYING YOUR OWN BILLS ON TIME TO DONATE $10 TO YOUR NEIGHBOR. YOUR NEIGHBOR MIGHT BE THE FAMILY DOWN THE BLOCK THAT MIGHT HAVE LOST A SPOUSE, PARENT OR EVEN JOB. IF YOU KNEW YOU WERE HELPING A FAMILY IN NEED, WHY WOULD'T YOU DONATE? WHY CRITICIZE SOMEONE THAT IS TRYING TO DO ALITTLE GOOD IN THE WORLD? I THINK PEOPLE HAVE FORGOTTEN THE REAL REASON WE ARE ALL HERE " THE GRACE OF GOD"

LOVEISGOOD
Aug 11, 2009 at 1:25 p.m.
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I believe in helping people as much as i can but , you can bet i won't just waste $10.00 on someone i don't know . To many people working the systems now a days . The banks are gonna make out on these deals one way or another , have been for years . They don't need any help either . It all boils down to greed not need !

karenjis41
Aug 11, 2009 at 12:18 p.m.
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Right on Loveisgood! If you could afford to buy a home in the first place you don't need help as much as all the homeless in our town do. Just an example, my hubby works at a church and there is a homeless man who sleeps under a pine tree on church grounds. Do you think that church would help this man? Hell no! Pretty sad, huh?

LOVEISGOOD
Aug 10, 2009 at 2:45 p.m.
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Why not get the bank to match the $ 10.00 a month so they don't have to be bailed out again . This is nuts . There are people staving and lining up at food banks and you want people who are already dealing with hard times to give $ 10.00 to help the banks ? I will help the people in my community or my neighors and faimly but not a stranger i don't know . To many scam artists out there . I will do nothing to help the biggest rip off people which is any and all local bankers !

karenjis41
Aug 10, 2009 at 2:27 p.m.
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If you go from being a home owner straight to being homeless I guess you are doing something wrong!!! It takes longer than that. These families probably once rented from a slumlord (who lives in a $500,000 house) here in Janesburg then couldn't pay $700 a month for an insect and rodent infested apartment. Then they go to Echo or Salvation Army or House of Mercy, then after their mandatory "stay" of 7 days are put out on the street. So, still my vote is if you give $10 to anything, it should be the homeless.

OkieFed
Aug 10, 2009 at 2:17 p.m.
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Hell no.

ihavealife
Aug 10, 2009 at 2:09 p.m.
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Ok...I'll bite..I think that's why they want people to give the $$ in the first place ....So we can stop people from becoming homeless ???

karenjis41
Aug 10, 2009 at 1:59 p.m.
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I have a wonderful idea! Why doesn't each individual in this "grassroots" organization give $10 a month til the end of 2010 to a homeless individual or family? That would be a nice gesture, wouldn't it? Okay, I am waiting.........which person on here is going to say something sarcastic about this one?

DJ
Aug 9, 2009 at 10:31 p.m.
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I didn't buy an extravagant house, and I didn't sign up for an adjustable rate mortgage. In fact, the mortgage on my $84,000 house is less than what I'd pay to rent an apartment in Janesville. But without a "real job" it's very hard to meet all the financial obligations involved in home-ownership.

I lost my full-time (great pay & benefits) job a couple years ago, and haven't been able to find another. I currently have two, part-time jobs and am working harder than I have at any other time in my life trying to make ends meet. Unfortunately the jobs I have now only pay about half of $23/hour I was making before and "getting enough hours" is a constant battle.

To add insult to injury, I supposedly owe the Government thousands of dollars in penalties for cashing in my retirement funds trying to stay afloat.

Personally, I'd rather have one decent job than one years, or even 10 years worth of $10 handouts. If you know anyone that's hiring, please let me know!

ihavealife
Aug 9, 2009 at 4:32 p.m.
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Some make more sense than others..But if you watch the foreclosures in the paper most homes are in the 70,000.-100,000.This may or may not be families living about their means...or could it just be they wanted the American dream in the good years and now with the way jobs and the economy has taken a dump they can't make their payments on UEC ??? Watch the "short sales" and you also will see homes that are selling less than the owners owe.I find it disheartening the banks will not work with homeowners but will sell at a lost.When that happens the houses around them also go down in value.

richardcranium
Aug 9, 2009 at 3:57 p.m.
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Pack:

I agree.. times are very tough. People who should be helped are those who have lived reasonably within their means and for reasons beyond their control have fallen on hard times. Half million dollar homes don't count in my book.

Realitybites has the right idea and has made the most significant point here.

biggirl
Aug 9, 2009 at 10:49 a.m.
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I'm sympathetic with those here who speak about their own need. It's true that the municipalities keep on increasing our taxes -- often in the form of fees for improvements, in the form of new increases in our real estate appraisal (even when the market is down), and in the form of various fees for services. It's time for the municipalities to tighten their belts and do more for the citizens who have paid taxes all these years. And, by the way, the federal government could find more than a trillion dollars to banks and financial institutions, who are now giving billions in compensation to their execs, but they can't find anything for the homeowner. So the same banks that got our money are foreclosing on the citizenry?! Way to go!

realitybytes
Aug 9, 2009 at 9:57 a.m.
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Don't live beyond your means. Period. If you can no longer make payments on your bills then you need to take action. Move out of your $350k house and move into something more reasonable like a $125k house. Sell that boat. Sell that pair of Harleys that only gets used 5 months a year in Wisconsin. Sell the jet-skis. Stop paying $150 a month for TV and put up an antenna. Get rid of the Blackberry phone. Quit smoking. Sell that Rolex in your watch collection. Stop paying $40 a week to get your nails done.

Until you do these things why should ANYBODY have a bit of sympothy for you?

amallama
Aug 9, 2009 at 9:21 a.m.
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It does sound like this would be a scam, and it sounds like you would be helping every person that lived beyond their means- HOWEVER, this article does not give the movement justice. I recommend going to another one of their informational meetings- it makes more sense coming from Mike than being retold by a reporter. It does make you want to help make a difference in the community.. and it is not all about stabilizing your homes value... it is deeper than that.

fromjanesville2waukesha
Aug 9, 2009 at 8:32 a.m.
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I want to help the person with the 590,000k home. It's so sad to see these poor people struggle. What was the donation website again?

pack
Aug 9, 2009 at 7:51 a.m.
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We have NOT lived outside our means and we still struggle each month to get by. Yeah, right. I am just gonna start handing over money to everybody who thinks they need it. Where is the list where I can sign up? This is the most insane idea I have ever heard. Times are tough for everybody, not just the ones who bought $400,000.00 homes.

chelleandlou
Aug 9, 2009 at 5:06 a.m.
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While it may be a good idea, in this economy (especially Rock County), good luck with that. I for one would be stockpiling anything I made 'just in case'. Take care of your own before any other.

richardcranium
Aug 8, 2009 at 11:26 p.m.
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Ha... Are you flippin serious? Spend 170 bucks a year to "stabilize" home prices?

Sounds like John Doe has a nice scam started to me. What is the criteria for assistance? Do they have to be half million dollar houses or will the assistance go to those that have a meadian priced house(around 120 gs). You sold half million dollar houses and the buyers couldn't get refinanced because you oversold them on the value for their investment! Why should anyone feel sorry for someone who purchases a house FOUR TIMES the average value of a house in Rock County? NOT! Hit the road and go find some other sucker for a handout for the rich.

916WI
Aug 8, 2009 at 8:40 p.m.
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Sorry Janesvillean--I completely disagree with your assessment of this issue. Whether it was ignorance or greed fueling their decision making process, these people have to take responsibility for their obligations. We are bombarded by "get rich quick schemes" every day--common sense prevails in these situations--it should have prevailed when signing your name on something as important as a mortgage. There is nothing ambiguous about the term "adjustable rate mortgage"--surprise, surprise--it can adjust!!!! Banks shouldn't have to be made to absorb the losses of these people through modifications in the bankruptcy laws either. That's absolutely ridiculous. Did people at the beginning of the bubble have to give the banks any profit they made on the homes outside of the terms of the mortgage? I don't think so. Basically letting these people out of their obligations would be rewarding greed and/or stupidity. That's not good policy! If they can't afford it, the houses should go back to the bank and the people should have to rent until they are in a position to have another go at it again--hopefully more responsibly the next time around.....

janesvillean
Aug 8, 2009 at 5:27 p.m.
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916WI, it was only a little more than a year ago that the local Realtors took down the billboard around here that said "Home values rise 10% every year!" People were lied to by professionals who at *best* innocently went along with a bubble mindset and told people who had no experience with mortgages or home values that they would be able to refinance in a year or two, no problem, because the equity would magically appear even if they were paying negative option on their mortgage.
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At the least there needs to be more consumer protection in the mortgage market, and ultimately mortgage cramdowns on primary residences should be permitted in bankruptcy, even if there are conditions.
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I don't agree with this group's approach but maybe they will raise around 5% of their goal and be able to help a few people.

theone
Aug 8, 2009 at 5:12 p.m.
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Cut out the middle man...just send the ten bucks to me.

916WI
Aug 8, 2009 at 4:59 p.m.
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I'm sorry--I just don't feel much compassion for anyone that either lived outside of their means or used their home as a line of credit. The examples given just strengthen that line of thought. Spending a half a million dollars on a home in rock county one year and having your hand out for assistance the following? Come on.....Seriously? I was approved for much more than I spent on my current house--I simply didn't want to take on the debt and traded square footage for security....and I am so glad I made that decision. The people that didn't should stop blaming the banks, take responsibility for their poor decisions and learn from their mistakes......

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