Off-duty police thwart robbery attempt
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JANESVILLE In a case of terrible timing, a would-be robber entered Quotes Bar & Grill on Sunday night with the wrong people inside: off-duty cops.
Alonzo C. Rucker, 18, Beloit, is suspected of wearing a blue bandana around his face and reaching into his pants like he was grabbing a weapon when two Eau Claire police officers stiff-armed and tackled him.
About 20 off-duty officers from throughout the state were in Quotes for a pub crawl. They were in town for the Wisconsin Professional Police Association's golf outing at the Glen Erin Golf Club.
"Everyone was really getting a kick out of it, laughing a lot," bartender Joe Collins said. "What are the chances?"
Quotes video surveillance shows the would-be robber entering the bar behind four off-duty police officers.
When one officer saw him, the officer moved his beer bottle from his right hand to his left hand and shoved him into a table.
He then helped a second officer drag the man to the floor and pin him down.
The officer never spilled his beer.
"It was a take down," Quotes owner Denise Carpenter said. "These officers didn't hesitate. He was just down."
About four officers held the man down for a few minutes until Janesville police arrived.
Rucker was arrested on a charge of disorderly conduct, Janesville Deputy Police Chief Steve Kopp said. He didn't have a weapon.
Rucker was ordered held in the Rock County Jail on a probation hold after his arrest, Kopp said.
He told investigators he was looking for people involved in an earlier disturbance. He said he wore the bandana so he wouldn't be identified.
"It seems to be the joke of downtown today," Carpenter said. "I mean, what's the luck that you're going to walk into the bar with about 20 police officers?"
The Eau Claire officers planned on returning to Quotes the following day to get copies of the bar's surveillance video, Carpenter said.
They wanted the video for proof of the incident to show their buddies back home, she said.
"It's a little parting gift."

Aug 26, 2009 at 11:49 p.m.
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Joker you should know the law before you starting telling the police who they should be giving fines too! Quotes can not be fined for letting someone come into the bar with liquor they can only get in trouble for letting someone leave the bar with liquor! and like the bartender had much time to worry about the cops coming into the bar with beer....the cops werent even in the bar for a minute before that kid come up behind them! use your brain please
Aug 26, 2009 at 11:47 p.m.
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Aug 18, 2009 at 4:10 p.m.
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Hey donkeykong, no, I did not lose it. I am just pointing out that they broke the law. Are you in favor of police officers breaking the law or taverns violating their liquor license?
Aug 18, 2009 at 3:29 p.m.
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Joker says - "The Janesville police should ticket the two cops who walked in with the beers and fine Quotes for letting this happen".
yes, thank you for proving spark's point....you have officially LOST IT!!
Aug 18, 2009 at 12:52 p.m.
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I rest my case.
Aug 18, 2009 at 11:56 a.m.
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The Janesville police should ticket the two cops who walked in with the beers and fine Quotes for letting this happen.
Aug 18, 2009 at 9:47 a.m.
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Bartender - You will find that there's a large amount of dopes on this site that are completely uneducated in the common sense department.
Aug 18, 2009 at 3:54 a.m.
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seriously some of you need to think before you type such bull! i mean seriously cops cant drink? they dont stop drunks on the street cuz their drunk they stop them if their idiots or breaking the law. and NO you are not at any point in time allowed to bring a beer or any type of liquor into a bar that came from another or are you allowed to leave a bar with any type of liquor.
Second the majority of bars do not have bouncers on sundays because it barely gets busy enough to even need one! and quotes only has bouncers wed, thurs, fri, and saturday!
and anyone who thinks defending a 18 year old kid who walks into a bar knowing the law says hes not allowed, with a bandanna around his face and his hand in his pants isnt trying to rob the place. GET A CLUE! seriously what did you think he was dressing up for halloween? and when he came up behind the off-duty officer he obviously said something other than hey im looking for someone! NO I DONT THINK SO! what does a robber say to someone when they come up behind them? I dont know about about GET ON THE FLOOR? or something of that nature would make a bit more sense! and i would never in a million years want someone to take the time to figure out if the person has a gun or not, i would personally take that punk out myself without hesitation. also look at the kids record he was on probation for ATTEMPTIVE ROBBERY, but im sure he just came in to quotes looking for someone. DONT BE DUMB! he was a punk kid who thought he could get a couple bucks!
Aug 14, 2009 at 6:40 p.m.
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Yeah, no kiddin...
Aug 14, 2009 at 11:13 a.m.
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no more mardi gras or halloween I guess.
Aug 14, 2009 at 7:20 a.m.
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I dont know if Wisconsin has the same law, but where I am and along with a multitude of other states, it is illegal to wear a mask, hood, or anything else that conceals your identity in public. And yes, the cops did the right thing in my opinion. Any person who wants to act the part of a potential armed robber should be dealt with accordingly. There was enough reasonable suspicion to do what they needed to do. And for those who do not know "Reasonable suspicion is a legal standard in United States law that a person has been, is, or is about to be engaged in criminal activity based on specific and articulable facts and inferences." Fact 1, wearing something that covered up his face/identity. Fact 2, subject held his hand in his waistband, something that is a common sight during street robberies. And yes, I know its a common sight, Im in the LE line of work. As far as the beer, I dont know the ordinances their anymore, here you can walk on the street with a clear plastic 16 oz glass. I would just like to say food job LE.
Aug 14, 2009 at 6:29 a.m.
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mickie - get a life. Better yet, get a beer and relax.
Aug 13, 2009 at 11:50 p.m.
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Quotes uses bouncers on Wed, Thur, Fri, and Sat
Aug 13, 2009 at 11:46 p.m.
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Mickie- I reread what you posted and realized that you said this: "Of course everyone no matter their occupation has their rights." I see that you're not against off duty police officers drinking, however it seems that you think they shouldn't do it publicly? Or is it the fact that they were having a pub crawl?
Aug 13, 2009 at 11:20 p.m.
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Mickie- (off duty) cops aren't supposed to drink, is that what you're saying? They're humans too. It's not illegal to have a drink or two. It's not illegal to get drunk. As long as these off duty cops aren't belligerent drunks, cause a scene, start fights, go driving after they've been drinking to the point of intoxication, then I really don't see what the big deal is. I bet Obama drinks. I bet doctors drink. Jesus even had a drink!
Aug 13, 2009 at 3:46 p.m.
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Mickie - Is the President of the United States sitting down having a beer with a police officer during a meeting with the Vice President sending the wrong message to? When the photos were Nationally published. They are still human beings and having a beer is not illegal. The police are out there trying to get people to not drink and drive or underage drink. They are not out there trying to get people to stop doing something that is perfectly legal. And that's have a beer. Should they have walked outside with it? No. Minor issue. Bigger issue...the idiot that walked in with the bandana and caused the real problems.
Aug 13, 2009 at 3:46 p.m.
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I was wondering if bandanas was listed on the no no list as well.
Aug 13, 2009 at 2:49 p.m.
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I guess braids and white Tshirt doesn't really make sure you don't have criminals and drugs deals going on. Maybe it's time for better ideas. I guess if I was under 21 I would go to Quotes on sundays the don't ID.
Aug 13, 2009 at 1:21 p.m.
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still wondering where BIGGIRL is to rip on the police some more.
Aug 13, 2009 at 1:21 p.m.
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mickie- if all the drunks actually TOOK A PARTY bus instead of always driving drunk there wouldnt be any problems now . Maybe that is the example. people partying the correct way. having a designated driver and if nobody wants to do it get somebody licenced to do so!!!
by the way DONT go to rock around the block if you dont want to see people drinking in pubic on the side walk!!
Aug 13, 2009 at 12:55 p.m.
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They should not have brought the beer off the bus, its a minor issue...get over it. They didn't know if this guy was armed or not, he implied he was armed, but they none-the-less took action. They are heroes, they stepped-in and did their job even though they didn't have to. Why are so many against the police? I appreciate what they did. THANK-YOU.
Aug 13, 2009 at 12:40 p.m.
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Sorry - police officers on a "Pub Crawl" -sends a terrible message.. They are the ones out there trying to stop it all-then publicly doing the same.. Maybe a party at a hotel with all the appropriate amenities is more in order. Not being driven around, and then walking into bars with open intoxicants.. Its like the group MADD, being seen on a Pub Crawl..Insane. Of course everyone no matter their occupation has their rights. Yet this seems to send a really bad message!
Aug 13, 2009 at 10:22 a.m.
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I say it's a publicity stunt gone wrong. Nice move Carp.
Aug 13, 2009 at 10:11 a.m.
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in_my_opinion: Your last sentence made me laugh outloud! LOL! Anyway, I also think that many of the comments that are offensive, rude, etc., only get deleted because somebody hit the "suggest removal" button. I can't imagine the Gazette has staffers checking each comment posted. Personally, I have no trouble with what you posted. Thanks.
Aug 13, 2009 at 9:20 a.m.
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SarahB1-I know what the rule states. However, it is seldom enforced. Just go through some of the other posts and you'll see what I mean. I would rather see someone use creative spelling for cuss words like I did using *'s for the vowels than see all the people on here that completely trash each other with language that I find vulgar. Which is saying a lot since I swear like a drunken sailor.
Aug 13, 2009 at 9:10 a.m.
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in_my_opinion: RULE NO. 1 as written --- Keep it clean. Comments that are obscene, vulgar or sexually oriented will be removed. Creative spelling of such terms or implied use of such language is banned, also.
Aug 13, 2009 at 8:47 a.m.
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My comment gets removed for saying he found himself up ___creek without a paddle...and had to come up with a lame___story??? Seriously!
Aug 13, 2009 at 4:48 a.m.
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I really like the guy's story... "he had the bandana on so that he wouldn't be recognized"..... Not recognized immediately, perhaps, but certainly drawing everyone's attention to him and no one else, unless everyone else in the bar was also wearing a bandana across their faces....which they were not, of course.
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If you don't want to be recognized, don't make yourself stand out like a turd in a urinal.
Aug 12, 2009 at 10:41 p.m.
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Not as good as one of the stories that made the top 10 of the Darwin list (of dumbest ways to die). Where a guy in Texas entered into a gun store to rob it, and they were actually having a convention of proud Texas hand gun owners. As soon as the masked robber pulled his gun and said "this is a robbery" EVERYONE in the place drew their weapon and opened fired on the robber. They found something like 80 some gun shot wounds in him, and something like 300 shell casings on the floor!
Aug 12, 2009 at 9:43 p.m.
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http://www.leadertelegram.com/story-news...
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Aug 12, 2009 at 7:27 p.m.
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I JUST LOVE THE FACT THAT THE ONE COP NEVER HAD TO PUT DOWN HIS BEER!!!!!!!
Aug 12, 2009 at 5:39 p.m.
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hannah maybe just maybe third gear may kick in and he will stop .
Aug 12, 2009 at 5:23 p.m.
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he didnt learn the first time what makes you think he will learn the second time???????? He is only 18 still more time to learn.
Aug 12, 2009 at 4:54 p.m.
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I would bet that Mr Rucker never tries to rob
anyone again based on his luck .
Aug 12, 2009 at 3:28 p.m.
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Haha, Joker thinks cops pull people over for going 1 over the speed limit! And I'm talking nonsense? I happen to know a handful of cops (none in Janesville). And if you asked them if they found it acceptable to go 68 on I-90, the answer would be an overwhelming YES. Marijuana? That was brought up when? There is a reason you are hated Joker....and you'll continued to be...you are a grumpy old man who tries to make everyone around you miserable
Aug 12, 2009 at 3:27 p.m.
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yes i know it is all OUR faults, the city, the family, my dad was a thief-drunk blablabla.
WHERE IS BIGGIRL????
Aug 12, 2009 at 3:26 p.m.
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yes couldnt have been attempted robbery
http://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetails.do;...
Aug 12, 2009 at 3:24 p.m.
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wow read those charges- resist arrest, dis conduct. my fav
http://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetails.do;...
sure he wasnt pretending to rob the place with fake gun. he already learnt(haha) not to use a fake one but to pretend only.
Aug 12, 2009 at 3:12 p.m.
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wherever mentioned seeing a table outside is confused. That is a booth you see it is inside the bar. I see how you could be confused because this is an old building and that is the "store front area for display of retail merchandize. A booth is there instead now. Hope that makes sense.
Aug 12, 2009 at 3:07 p.m.
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maybe he was trying to cover up that he wasnt 21 and reaching for cash to buy a beer. HAHAHA RIGHT!! Off to see wccap and video.
Thanks Sarahb I didnt notice either.. to excited to read comments I guess.
Aug 12, 2009 at 2:59 p.m.
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joker"How is bringing a beer into Quotes from another bar or location, "A OK?" So are you saying anyone can do this? I could buy a beer at Looking Glass, walk out and then walk into Quotes with my beer? Or maybe order a vodka tonic at Looking Glass and walk this into Quotes?"
you put it in your POCKET silly!!!!!! or theyll make you toss it!!
Aug 12, 2009 at 2:58 p.m.
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Donkey Kong, I am sure you are also in favor of making marijuana legal. Or maybe you believe it is "accepted" that some person caught with just a joint is OK?
Tailgating in parking lots? I am sure the sporting venue's liquor license or local ordinance allows this to happen.
Ask any police officer if it is "accepted" that they will allow a driver to go over the speed limit a few miles per hour. The answer will be NO. You remind me of those people who always argue just because people are having fun and they are not hurting anyone, we should let them do whatever they want. Spare us your "free country" speech. That flag does not fly here.
If you keep spouting nonsense, you will soon surpass me for being one of the most hated poster on these boards.
Aug 12, 2009 at 2:56 p.m.
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where is BIGGIRL?????
I think they took control. I am sure they didnt "hurt" the poor criminal. If so oh well. dont go into a bar looking like youre going to rob the place DUH. Yes where were the bouncers? isnt 21:00 ish 9 pm?
Aug 12, 2009 at 2:52 p.m.
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inmyopinion- quotes DOESNT have out door seating. looking glass does. To get from one to the other you have to walk ON PUBLIC sidewalk. cannot believe bouncer didnt stop them.
joker better check you LAW facts.
if you have a chauffeur you may drink in the car. I mean licensed chauffeur example limo, bus coach. What kind of vehicle were they being transported around in? But yes no open intoxicants on the sidewalk. I dont know if you can get a "permit" for this. Pretty sure Rock around the block gets a permit to walk with alcoholic drinks. But it is also all blocks off.
Aug 12, 2009 at 2:44 p.m.
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At the end of the day, Mr. Rucker is still the one that looks like a dope. Complain all you want about the police, it makes you look like dopes too.
Aug 12, 2009 at 2:36 p.m.
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Mickie - I see you don't support that America is a free country. Cops, doctors, lawyers, college students, plumbers, bankers, pilots, garbage men....do I need to go on? What do they have in common? They all live in a free country where they are allowed to drink beer. And despite your skewed views, the great majority of people do so responsibly. We have much bigger problems with people like you trying to take decision making abilities (what makes our country free) out of the hands of citezens. You're a sick individual if you truly beleive a cop isn't entitled to go on a pub crawl. Seek help!
Aug 12, 2009 at 2:15 p.m.
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FOR POLICE OFFICERS- LOL...The ones trying to get drunks off the streets... Too FUNNY!
Aug 12, 2009 at 2:11 p.m.
Aug 12, 2009 at 2:06 p.m.
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Look in ole webster for the definition Joker. I know, its a big word. Are either of these activities legal? Drinking a beer in a hospital parking lot tailgating for a Badger game? Going 67 mph in a 65? No, but police and anyone else in an authoritative (check webster again) position (bar owner) have not enforced such things so they have become accepted as the norm. So when 6 bar owners throw a bar crawl and want to allow someone getting off their bar crawl bus to come in with a beer, then yes that is OK.
Aug 12, 2009 at 1:43 p.m.
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916WI - That's fine if you would react that way, but I'm glad the police know how to react to a situation like this. He did not have his hands in his pockets. He was trying to make it appear like he had a weapon. In my book, you do something like that, you deserve to get your a** kicked.
As the article states, he told police he was looking for someone from an earlier altercation. If he was looking for someone from an earlier altercation and yet had his face covered up to do so, he was up to absolutely no good. Let's face it, he should get the Darwin award and I think its hilarious.
Aug 12, 2009 at 1:30 p.m.
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Spark....Honestly, if a single kid walked in with a bandana while I was working in the afternoon with a crowded bar I would have just laughed to myself and told him to lose the bandana--then after seeing he was way under age I would have simply told him to get the hell out. It looks like he just had his hands in his pockets and absolutely no claim of "I'm robbing this place" was made......We had much "scarier" looking people than this little punk kid walk in our doors and rarely had issues with any of them.....
Aug 12, 2009 at 1:28 p.m.
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I don't know anything about pub crawls, so I'm not going to say anything about off-duty cops walking in with a beer.
I do know that typically when someone walks into an establishment, concealing their identity, their intentions are usually not of the best. True, this guy had no weapon on him, but how many places get held up by a fake weapon? Or with someone who puts their hand in their pocket saying, "I have a gun, give me all your money!!" when they don't even have anything on them? It's possible that this guy was going to do the something similar. This guy is only 18, he obviously wasn't there to get a drink.
Being in retail, catching shoplifters, I hear every excuse as to why I shouldn't prosecute. "I was going to pay for it." "I forgot it was in my pocket." "Let me pay for it." "I didn't know I was doing it." People are full of excuses and will say or do anything to get out of trouble. It's possible that's where this guy's story came from.
I say good job to the off-duty police! What else were they supposed to think was going to happen? The off-duty police may not have even been intoxicated (someone had mentioned it.) It's possible to drink and not get drunk. I wasn't there, I don't know these guys, so I don't know for sure. I'm just saying.
Aug 12, 2009 at 12:29 p.m.
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Donkey Kong, what do you mean it is "accepted" that you can bring in beer from other bars during a pub crawl? Huh? What does accepted mean? Maybe it is accepted, but it is not legal.
According to your logic, if something is illegal but it is "accepted", then it is ok to do the action. Do you really believe this? What rock have you been living under?!
Aug 12, 2009 at 12:21 p.m.
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It is pretty common on a Pub Crawl to be on a "party bus". Drinking on the party bus is legal. It is the same thing as drinking in a limo or in a bus on the way to a Brewer game. Some bars will let you bring in your drinks from the party bus, others will not. They were certainly not doing anything illegal. People just like to try and pick at things to find fault. They did a good thing, I am glad they were there. Hopefully this criminal learned his lesson! The video is great
Aug 12, 2009 at 12:02 p.m.
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I don't recall ever using the word legal or illegal. Going one mile over the speed limit is illegal but generally accepted (A OK!). I also never said a random person going to random bars could bring their alcohol with them. It is accepted that on a pub crawl, when visiting all sponsor bars, that a beer may be brought in with you. (Get that, because it was purcahsed at another sponsor bar?). Ever went to Summerfest and bought a ticket on North Ave at a bar and took your drink out and on the bus with you? Ever been to a badger game and tailgated somewhere? Nevermind those questions, I'm pretty sure those involve having fun, something some of you know NOTHING about. If you want to dig deep into what really is legal and illegal, we would ALL be guilty of something each and everyday. Obviously, you decided to take it childishly too far with the city bus comment and such, but that is to be expected. The point is, companies that rent out these vehicles to transport people around are licensed for the occupants to drink (city bus, not so much). And some things are just accepted even though they are "illegal". Stop the non-sense and come back to reality please.
Aug 12, 2009 at 11:51 a.m.
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This may or may not have been a robbery attempt but given the circumstances (face covering bandana, reaching into his pants like he was going for a weapon) if I were a patron of the bar I'd prefer the police act first and ask questions afterward. Obviously they don't feel that they can charge him with attempted robbery because they are only alleging disorderly conduct. Wearing the bandana seems logical if he didn't want to be recognized by whoever it was he was looking for but reaching into his pants as if to get a weapon doesn't, particularly before he had even determined whether the people he was looking for were even present. So I'm not sure I buy his story either.
Aug 12, 2009 at 11:49 a.m.
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916WI - What would you have done if someone walked right up behind you with a bandana covering their face and pretending to have a weapon and confronted you? Watch the video again. The moron had it coming. Look at his tract record and tell me he was a model citizen.
Aug 12, 2009 at 11:47 a.m.
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Joker - I know they were drinking on a shuttle bus from bar to bar. That is legal.
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Open container laws apply to all motor vehicles, including motor homes and pickup campers, except motor buses which are vehicles designed to transport people and having a passenger carrying capacity of 16 or more persons and chauffeur driven limousines. LIMOS AND BUSES MUST HAVE A HIRED CHAUFFEUR. No one under the legal drinking age may transport any intoxicants - open or closed.
Aug 12, 2009 at 11:46 a.m.
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The kid wasn't bright for dressing like that, but saying that these cops are heroes because they beat down an unarmed kid based solely on his appearance defies logic. If he would have threated robbery surely he would have been arrested for attempted robbery and not a petty charge like disorderly conduct. Obviously these cops had that "Roadhouse" mentality of thinking they're "badder than bad" if they are bragging to their buddies about it and showing everyone copies of the tape....
Aug 12, 2009 at 11:42 a.m.
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donkeykong... I'm sure the health department and the liquor license board sees it different.You are right on the fact that beer/liquor can be on a chartered bus...but it CAN NOT leave the bus opened. Give it up ...your wrong on the laws !!!!
Aug 12, 2009 at 11:38 a.m.
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Donkey Kong, I suggest you get your head out of you know where and learn the law and study the facts. What exactly is the law regarding open intoxicants on a shuttle bus? Do you know?
How is bringing a beer into Quotes from another bar or location, "A OK?" So are you saying anyone can do this? I could buy a beer at Looking Glass, walk out and then walk into Quotes with my beer? Or maybe order a vodka tonic at Looking Glass and walk this into Quotes?
Better yet, how about if I bring some beer onto a city bus and then pop it open and start drinking? This is legal according to you?! How about if I decide to then get off the bus and then walk into Quotes with my beer? This is ok?!
Spark, they were riding in the shuttle bus and drinking from bar to bar.
Aug 12, 2009 at 11:30 a.m.
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For those of you who have checked ccap, that is just since he has turned 18.
Aug 12, 2009 at 11:21 a.m.
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Way to show them mack 10!!! You go to Eau Claire (with an e, and Im stupid?) and walk around with that beer!!! And then you can really show them and stay there and everyday you can walk up and down the street with a beer! You crazy person you, it's going to be awesome!
I feel bad for people like you, I really do. Don't have any offspring please.
Aug 12, 2009 at 11:21 a.m.
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ibroofer: You may be right. I retract my last sentence, although there was a bit of cowboy mentality going here - cops will be cops, off-duty or on-duty. But my main point is that the article assumes that it was a robbery that was about to go down. This has not been shown, and it defies logic (although crooks aren't always logical) that someone would walk into a crowded bar and try to pull off a robbery - unarmed! So yes, the cops probably did the right thing. But the reporter made a leap of faith and stated an opinion as fact.
Aug 12, 2009 at 11:17 a.m.
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It's a typical chance for some of you to immediately attack the police and turn the story around. Seriously, read your posts. It's actually comical. I could have instantly predicted once the beer in the hand was spotted, people would take the story and spin it on that. And I am not condoning open alcohol outside. That was wrong. Big deal. I saw someone do that not long ago and they simply had to dump it out. I can honestly say that I've also never been in a bar and had someone walk in with a bandana on and his hand under his shirt pretending like he had a weapon. Gee, I would say that's asking for attention. Explain to me also, why the guys walks up directly behind the cop and confronts him. Sorry, but I would feel threatened if that happened. Quit defending the idiot that did this!
Aug 12, 2009 at 11:08 a.m.
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916 - What the hell are you talking about? Read your last post and what you said about someone walking in with a bandana and what people you know would have done to him. Now you're turning it around because it was cops that did it? Huh? You have me really confused. By the way, read my last post. I didn't condone open alcohol outside.
Aug 12, 2009 at 11:06 a.m.
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mack10...aw, what...did you get busted for something? You seem awful bitter with the name calling.
Or are you only 12?
Aug 12, 2009 at 11 a.m.
Aug 12, 2009 at 10:57 a.m.
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Spark.....You're the one being a moron! If this kid was such a threat how come he didn't get arrested for attempted robbery? FWIW--it is absolutely illegal to walk down a Janesville sidewalk drinking a beer--regardless of whether or not a "pub crawl" is going on or if these guys were coming off of a bus. Obviously the cops are going to get a free pass on that though.........
Aug 12, 2009 at 10:47 a.m.
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the janesville cops had to get home some way, i'm sure they didnt stay at a hotel, they must have drove home drunk.
Aug 12, 2009 at 10:45 a.m.
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Hey donkeykong, the law says you can't leave the bar with an opened container. Are you stupid?????????????
Aug 12, 2009 at 10:44 a.m.
Aug 12, 2009 at 10:33 a.m.
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Are you serious mickie, staggerlee, ihavealife, & TheJoker?!?!?! Did you read what Curl4Jack said? The pubs involved sponsored a bus. Therefore, having alcohol on the bus was legal. Just like any bachelor party bus, bus to a brewer game, limo, metra train to chicago....get my drift? Also, since the pub crawl was sponsored by these downtown bars, bringing your beer into another bar that sponsored the pub crawl, from the previous bar that sponsored the pub crawl, via the sponsored bus, is A OK! What don't you understand about this? And since when can't police be on a pub crawl? You are all sitting here complaining like little babies about how they should be treated like everyone else, but they can't go on a pub crawl like everyone else? Get out from under the Rock you live. Better yet, lets just dump more on top!
Aug 12, 2009 at 10:27 a.m.
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Once again, amazing how many morons on here defend the criminal. You people are whacked. FYI, police are human and having a drink is legal. Including when you're off duty.
Aug 12, 2009 at 10:24 a.m.
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SuperDave - What exactly do you think he was doing? Do you think people just walk around with bandanas on their faces? Watch the video again and maybe you will get a clue.
Aug 12, 2009 at 10:16 a.m.
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Joker - They were driving around with open intoxicants? How do you know that by watching this video? The police were in buses and were from all over the state. I'm not condoning them walking outside with beer however. Some places it is legal though.
Aug 12, 2009 at 10:11 a.m.
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I think the video shows them walking in the front door. Even if they were on a pub crawl, they were driving around with open intoxicants. Last time I checked, this was against the law. Walking around in public with a beer is also against the law.
I also think a police sponsored "pub crawl" is in bad taste.
Aug 12, 2009 at 9:35 a.m.
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Curl4Jack.. If what you are saying is true.....That's just wrong.So if I drive my friends from bar to bar ,they CAN take their drinks with them?? Pub crawl or not it also is against the law to take open containers into a bar/restaurant.
Aug 12, 2009 at 9:25 a.m.
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Thanks SarahB-right in front of me!
Aug 12, 2009 at 9:23 a.m.
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staggerlee......you want them arrested? i was downtown last weekedn and saw the cops let a guy dump out his beer. He was from out of town and didnt know you couldnt walk in public with a beer. Some cities allow it. Maybe the city these cops came from do. Big deal
Aug 12, 2009 at 9:22 a.m.
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browntown96: It's right to the left of this article ... just click on the photo. (I hope this is the answer you were seeking.)
Aug 12, 2009 at 9:16 a.m.
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in-my-opinion, do you happen to have the link to the utube video? Thanks.
Aug 12, 2009 at 9:12 a.m.
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Some cops think they are above the law and do whatever they want. I bet they didn't think the public was going to be watching them walk into Quotes with a beer!!!!BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope this issue gets addressed, if not that's BULL.
Aug 12, 2009 at 9:05 a.m.
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SuperDave.......if you were standing in a gas station or a bank and this guy come in with a mask and his hand in his wasteband what would you think he wanted? These guys are trained to see these signs and react. They didnt give him a chance to do something more stupid than he already did.
Aug 12, 2009 at 8:59 a.m.
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I don't believe for a minute that this chucklehead was going to rob the bar. His story is plausible enough to be true, if anyone bothered to check out his story.
I wanted to believe this story, with it's headline "Off-duty police thwart robbery attempt", but as I re-read the story and the reader comments, I realized there is nothing here to substantiate the idea that he was going to rob the bar. All he did was walk into the bar with his face covered with a bandana. Enough to arouse suspicion, but does that justify being assaulted by the obviously impaired police officers?
Aug 12, 2009 at 8:56 a.m.
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ONLY in Wisconsin would you have a "Pub Crawl" for police officers.. I dont know which is more ridiculous, the would be robber or the Police sponsered Pub Crawl..Wow..
Aug 12, 2009 at 8:51 a.m.
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The downtown bars involved in this pub crawl provided a shuttle for the officers to go from their hotel to the downtown bars. The shuttle probably dropped them off coming from their hotel or possibly from Weirdo's across the river. Taking a beer from one bar, to the shuttle, then going to the next bar is common place on a pub crawl with a shuttle involved taking you from place to place.
Aug 12, 2009 at 8:46 a.m.
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What is funny is you people complaining about the cops walking in with beer, would still be complaining about it even if he had a gun and was able to rob the place at gunpoint. You would still find comfort in complaining about it because that is what makes you people happy. And I agree, with the smoking ban coming you better get used to beer being outside!
Aug 12, 2009 at 8:16 a.m.
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I agree with you, In_my_opinion. It looks like they're coming in from another part of the bar. I've never been to quotes so I don't know. Have any of you posters been to quotes? Do you know the layout of the bar? And I'm sorry, but if a guy with a bandana on his face walked up to me I would have done the exact same thing these cops did. Good job guys! I'm sure no one would have an issue with this if the off-duty cops would have been just normal citizens having a beer.
Aug 12, 2009 at 7:17 a.m.
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With the smoking ban coming, a lot of the bars are/have added outside seating. Watch the video again and look outside-not at the door. You'll see seating.
As for the robbery/non-robbery angle...I don't care. I'm just glad that the officers assumed that the guy wearing the bandana, reaching into his pants didn't have good intentions and acted accordinly.
Kudos to the officers. They seen something that was off, acted without excessive force, and waited patiently for JVPD to show up. Good job guys! I can't wait to see this video on stupid criminals.
Aug 12, 2009 at 3:07 a.m.
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I have an idea. Why don't these cops visit more often, and start with Corvina's! That'll settle that bar's problems.
Aug 12, 2009 at 12:46 a.m.
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Its great what the off-duty officers did but how the reporter says the officers wanted copies of the tape for friends back home when clearly two of the off-duty officers walked in with beers. Now the last time I checked that was against the law. Maybe this law doesn't apply to cops,"correct me if I'm wrong." But its crap that these guys are suspose to set an example not only to the people but themselvs as police officers. These officers are in our city represinting their department and their walking around downtown Janesville with open beers. If you seen the video they come in from the right side of the bar so either the came from Main Street or Wiggies if they came from either one or even worse drinking and driving. This type of behavior is unaceptable for people of the law and their department and the city of Janesville needs to look into what these off-duty officers were doing before they entered the bar.
Aug 11, 2009 at 11:17 p.m.
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I would tend to agree with the no-robbery explanation too. An 18 year old kid basically follows 2 or 3 fairly big guys(the cops) that he doesn't know into a bar to rob it while they're standing close enough to him to slap him around? The kid was stupid by wearing the bandana in the way that he did, but there has to be more to this story........especially considering the fact that he had no weapon. If some kid tried doing that in the bar I worked at the regulars(who are definitely not cops) would have grabbed him and taught him a lesson.......I don't buy the robbery angle......
Aug 11, 2009 at 10:49 p.m.
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OMG I'm laughing like crazy now.
Aug 11, 2009 at 10:41 p.m.
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Noone tries to rob a crowded bar, even a stupid person. The cops may have reasonable suspician based on the bandana, but I'm going with Alonzo's non robbery explanation. (he also didn't have a weapon)
Aug 11, 2009 at 10:12 p.m.
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ChsMkr-I think you are partially correct. This was far from a robbery & this individual's "story" was semi-legitimate. Unfortunately (& well fortunately) for HIPPA, the media will be able to continue to distort the facts of this case. One thing I disagree with is that these officers' reaction were not "cowboy-itis" I wouldn't want the officers to wait to see if he had a gun in his pants before they tackled him. Fortunately no one was seriously hurt in the altercation & I appreciate the officers attempts to maintain saftey. Unfortunately this is a case of a young male being "misunderstood".
Aug 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m.
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18 Years old and entering the bar? Hhhmmm. Seems to me the age for consumption in a bar in Wisconsin is 21! I like how the Eau Claire officers card some one. LOL! Nice job guys and thanks! Stay safe!
Aug 11, 2009 at 6:40 p.m.
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I asked/commented on the beer outside also ???....Being police officers(even off duty)they SHOULD know the laws on drinking in public.Well heres another question... On the video the "time stamp" is 21:42..My question is where is ALL this great security at the door ??? Did it not say in another story last week that Quotes had door guards on weekends ???
Aug 11, 2009 at 6:14 p.m.
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That's a fair question, TheJoker. Wonder what the answer is. The video shows at least two of the guys entering with beer bottles in hand.
Aug 11, 2009 at 5:48 p.m.
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Why were the officers drinking outside? It looks like they walked in with beers. Is there a seating area now in front of Quotes?
Aug 11, 2009 at 5:48 p.m.
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Glad the cop didn't spill his beer, that is classic.
Aug 11, 2009 at 5:27 p.m.
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ChsMkr-watch the utube video. It's a riot.
Aug 11, 2009 at 5:04 p.m.
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Despite the legal record of the accused, I would hope there are more details that were left out as to what he did upon entering. I'm certainly no expert but what's listed here sure doesn't seem to have warranted the action nor arrest. His story could have merit given how crazy it would be to attempt to "hold up" a crowded bar. We'll wait to see how this one turns out and hope it wasn't 'cowboy-itis'.
Aug 11, 2009 at 4:38 p.m.
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HaHaHaHa....Good job guys!!! Imagine the robber's surprise. That is just too funny. It tickles me so.
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