Representative might sue after he's voted off Edgerton fire board
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John Dohner Jr.
EDGERTON To Fulton Town Chairman Evan Sayre, the question of a volunteer firefighter's eligibility to serve on Edgerton's fire commission is clear-cut.
"I don't know of anybody in southern Wisconsin that has an employee on their board," he said. "Everybody understands you don't do that."
The volunteer in question, John Dohner Jr., sees the case differently.
"It's just the old bad blood and the good ol' boy politics they've got going on," he said.
Dohner was elected chairman of the Town of Sumner in Jefferson County in April. He and the town's supervisors decided Dohner should serve as the town's representative on the Edgerton Fire Protection District Commission, he said.
Dohner has been a paid-on-call, also called volunteer, member of the Edgerton Fire Department for 16 years.
The commission voted June 4 that Dohner is ineligible to serve on the commission. He's now thinking about suing the district, he said.
As someone who is paid by the district, Dohner would have to abstain from every vote involving finances, leaving him little to do on the commission, Sayre said.
But Dohner said his experience could benefit the commission.
"I just thought, and some of the volunteers also thought, it would be nice if I bring experience as a firefighter to the commission," he said.
Dohner believes he was voted off the board because of his support for three fired employees in years past, he said. The district settled with the employees in 2008 after courts said the employees were illegally fired for joining a union.
Dohner, shop chairman for the United Auto Workers Local 95 in Janesville, voiced support for the employees.
The commission didn't worry about conflicts of interest before Dohner joined, he said. He pointed out that Secretary Nancy Dickinson served many years as a paid-on-call emergency medical technician in Edgerton while on the commission.
Commission Chairman Dave Viney said that was a different case because Dickinson worked for Curtis Ambulance, the company hired by the district to oversee emergency medical response. Dohner countered the commission negotiated contracts with Curtis that could affect Curtis employees and volunteers.
The district recently took over ambulance service from Curtis. Dickinson resigned from Curtis on May 1 because of a health issue and will not serve the in-house ambulance service because of the conflict of interest, she said.
Viney wouldn't comment on Dohner's accusation of politics entering the commission's decision.
"It's not worthy of a comment," he said.
Thursday, the commission will vote on a resolution stating volunteers and employees of the fire department and ambulance services are not eligible to serve on the commission.
Dohner expects to decide in a few weeks if he will sue the district but fears a lawsuit could hurt district residents, he said.
"Do I want to waste additional taxpayer money because of the way they feel like they can run roughshod over everybody?" he said.
The alternate Sumner representative, Donna Skau, will serve on the commission for now, Dohner said.

Jul 6, 2009 at 9:37 a.m.
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I'll bet there more than 50 thousand in the hole, But they just started. It amazes me that people can be in the know, so quickly. If you don't have a solution to the problem you must be part of the problem. Come back in a year and cry foul if things don't improve.
Jul 6, 2009 at 7:27 a.m.
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Did anyone go to the fire district meeting on Thursday night? The board is getting the wool pulled over their eyes about how well the new ambulance service is going. So far the district is about $50,000 in the hole with the new ambulance service. Wonder how long before our taxes have to go up to support this new service and all their brand new shiny equipment.
Jul 3, 2009 at 7:35 a.m.
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also welder, there has been NO mention of any union neg. etc. this is an issue about two individuals that CAN"T let the past be the past. Dohner has no qualms with anything that is in place now, as he has stated; if you are following the news reports. So before you get on your cheer wagon, please know the facts first. This is an issue of too many times in this town have too many thrown their weight around right or wrongly. The policy of of "I don't like this or that" needs to end and the people that make this town work need to have a say. End of discussion. The final say will be soon I sense.
Jul 3, 2009 at 7:31 a.m.
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as for the input rah rah for donna, she isn't the rep. she is the "alternate" the final appointment is by the sumner town chair. please stay out of township bus. you have no clue about.
Jul 2, 2009 at 6:25 p.m.
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jvlrat; you don,t have a clue all the ems positions were filled by qualified people who care about the community no union needed as far as sumner township goes donna should be the only choice
Jul 2, 2009 at 12:31 p.m.
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sounds like etown guy is a volunteer in the "click" or a fulton boy????There is alot of hard feelings after what all/money spent etc that has happened. A few were against the full timers when we had them, but suddenly changed their views when jobs became available. The REAL issue here is should Sayre and Viney be allowed to think their are "emperors" of this kingdom called Edgerton?? Dohner has no hard feelings about the full timers, actually he encouraged BOTH of them to join the dept. when they started. Furthermore, the asst. is his nephew!! So where is the bad blood.... seems to lie in the laps of the TWO individuals that continue to hold the grudge against Dohner even after the water has rushed over the dam. One other note, it was apparent from past meetings that neither chief or asst. have a problem with Dohner being on the Dist. board. Those who PAY taxes should have a say!!!! I'd also like to guess that Dohner is a proud member of the Edg. Fire Dept. otherwise WHY wouldn't he just give up the 16 or so yrs. he has in with them???
Jul 2, 2009 at 10:23 a.m.
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You do your community and your fire department no favors with comments like that.
Jul 2, 2009 at 9:33 a.m.
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garyprimer.......there is no such thing as a "no respond" list. I posted the comment to stop others from slamming our fire department.
Jul 2, 2009 at 9:27 a.m.
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The fire department has a "no respond" list? This is a serious matter that should be investigated immediately by the District Attorney. Denial of fire services is a malicious criminal act and certainly nothing to joke about. A fire commissioner finds such comments very disturbing and has no tolerance for them.
Jul 2, 2009 at 9:25 a.m.
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Sounds like the Edgerton Fire Dept. is the Sayre and Viney show with someone pulling their strings. They make the rules, decide who is in and out, and run it however they want. The people of Edgerton should look at who was hired and who they cast aside in their decisions for those jobs. Some of the people they decided weren't good enough had way more qualifications than who they hired. As far as how can one person do all this and do it well... some people have that gift and some wish they did!
Jul 2, 2009 at 9:06 a.m.
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I'm a little leery of someone who has been influenced on a day to day basis by the UAW. Sure he's a great guy, but how can one do so many things and do them well?
Our fire department is a joke? Post your address so you're on the "no respond" list when you need them. They have done a great job and they have the communities support.
Jul 2, 2009 at 8:26 a.m.
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Glad to see a few Edgerton taxpayers are stepping up. Callers beware though, if you call Sayre or Viney, they hang up on you. Talk about professional!!! They are there in these positions to serve the people, they should listen. As far as Dohner being a volunteer and a member of the fire district board, he already said he would abstain from anything of conflict of interest; his township lawyer agreed and found NO reason to see why he couldn't be a part of the board. Sayer and Viney started this all DAYS after the township election, and before Dohner even said he'd sit on the district board. One other thing, I find it funny how Dohner is good enough as a volunteer to help the firemen set up their by-laws for the dept. along with other issues. They as a group of volunteers appreciated his help, so it's clear in my book that Sayre and Viney are holding the vendetta from the issue was back of having full-time guy's or not against Dohner. I think Dohner made it clear he's not against having the full-time guy's.... just the way, the expensive way they went to get WHO they wanted. Call your Reps. Edgerton taxpayers!! We have been walked on long enough.
Jul 2, 2009 at 8:18 a.m.
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For anyone that is interested. There is a Fire District Board meeting tonight at 7pm at the fire station for anyone that is interested in going and showing their dissatisfaction for how things have been handled. These meetings are open public meetings. Although you might be hard pressed to find the legally required public meeting notices unless you go to the fire department to find them. And heaven forbid if you ever wanted to read the minutes to the meetings.
Jul 2, 2009 at 8:15 a.m.
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jbeam-I don't think the firefighting abilities of any of the firefighters are the issue at all. I think our fire department has some well trained individuals that know their job and do it well. It is all of the politics and personal agenda's of the leaders in the department and the board members. Remember this is the taxpayers money they are spending.
Jul 2, 2009 at 8:12 a.m.
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I second that challenge.... Lets keep this discussion clean (so no posts get removed)and try to make as many people aware of this as possible. Maybe we all need to contact our town board and let them know of our dissatisfacton.
Jul 2, 2009 at 8:04 a.m.
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Why would he threaten to sue?? Geez..he's already the Sumner Town Chair. Someone else will do just fine. All of the personalities aside, it would be a conflict of interest.
Jul 2, 2009 at 7:59 a.m.
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edgerton fire dept. is a joke. the fire cheif and asst. cheif could not put out a bon fire with out calling a box alarm and getting all of southern wi. to help out.
Jul 2, 2009 at 7:37 a.m.
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I hope this makes everyone with a voice in Edgerton to speak up! Like other posts have stated, too much "behind the scenes" as been going on in this town and those who think they are running Edgerton are getting away with it. Correct, when you comment on how the Chief put his SISTER in top spot on the EMS. Some say the sign above the fire station should read "Demrow Fire/EMS". A lot of qualified people were passed on with the EMS positions as well as the Fire chief and Asst. Chief. But there again those two spineless individuals on the fire district board knew "ways" to get around the QUALIFIED and bring in two that were against full-time guys to begin with!!! As far as I am concerned, they have no grounds to think they can vote Dohner off. It's just their mentality or lack of, for running things they way they want. ps. word also is Jim Linsley is still behind the scenes coaching Viney and Sayre on what to do!! Talk about BS. I CHALLENGE the people of Edgerton to SPEAK UP!!!
Jul 1, 2009 at 10:23 p.m.
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Let's face it none of the people involved in this are the most intelligent guys in the world. They hire then fire three guys, spend tons of cash on a drawn out legal battle, then less than a year after the settlements are paid, they hire some townies to new cushy full time jobs.
Jul 1, 2009 at 10:01 p.m.
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Whitewater has had members of the Fire Dept. on the Police and Fire commission and the city council many times in the past. I don't think there was ever a problem. I think they appreciated the perspective.
Jul 1, 2009 at 9:51 p.m.
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John hit the nail on the head with the "good ole boys network" with the Fire Department in Edgerton. Everything they have done in the last few years has been against the best interest of the community. I guess when its serves their personal best interest or agenda's it is ok for the rules to be broke, but as soon as they don't like someone, look out... They hire 2 employees for the EMS Management positions that were not qualifed according to the postion requirements, but they had several very qualified applicants. HHHMMMM could it have something to do with the fact that the new assistant EMS supervisor is the Fire Chief's sister??? Talk about a conflict of interest. I do believe the Fire Chief was on the hiring committe for the EMS staff. They didn't even interview all of the other local EMT's that applied for any of those positions. They hire the current fire chief over another applicant that was more qualified for the position. When is the public going to step up and start looking into what is happening on the fire department, and what kind of decisions the fire district board is making.
Jul 1, 2009 at 8:09 p.m.
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A member of a volunteer fire department can serve on a village board if he/she earns less than $16,000/year from that position. If they earn more than that, they are ineligible under state statute and cannot serve. A volunteer firefighter may not serve as a member of that organization's fire commission.
Jul 1, 2009 at 6:40 p.m.
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It would seem to me that having the experience of being a firefighter on the fire commission would be a bonus. From what I understand this has been done before, but now it appears to be a case of pay back for not agreeing with them on the case of the 3 men fired for joining a union.
I hope it doesn't have to come to suing but that this commission will see that they should be glad to have people volunteering and wanting to make a difference. There are towns begging for people to volunteer!!!
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