Jobs are good for laid-off GM workers, but exodus is bad for city
JANESVILLE About 170 laid-off General Motors' workers in the Janesville area could be back on the job as early as Monday.
But they'd be punching in 500 miles away at the automaker's Fairfax assembly plant in Kansas City, Kan.
GM is mailing notification letters this week to Janesville workers who have signed up for a voluntary transfer to other facilities. The letters require that workers who accept the transfer report for work as early as Monday.
Local union leaders said Tuesday the transfers are good news for the workers and potentially bad news for the community.
"People are looking for work," said John Dohner Jr., United Auto Workers Local 95 shop chairman at GM. "But it's possible it could take another couple hundred people out of our tax base, out of our school systems."
The Janesville plant stopped building sport-utility vehicles in December and medium-duty Isuzu trucks in April. The local plant recently lost a three-plant bidding contest for production of a small car that GM plans to build in the United States.
The Fairfax plant and its 2,200 hourly workers build the Chevy Malibu. The automaker's plant in Orion, Mich., which won the small-car work, is now building Malibus, and GM is expected to consolidate all Malibu production at Fairfax.
The Kansas plant also produces the Buick LaCrosse.
GM spokeswoman Susan Garavaglia said the Fairfax plant needs to fill several hundred production jobs. GM offered the transfers to dislocated workers around the country, and they will be filled on a seniority basis, she said.
Local 95 President Andy Richardson said his office has been busy fielding calls from local workers who requested a transfer and have the necessary seniority but haven't yet gotten the transfer letter from GM.
"Most people I've talked to are pretty happy about it," Richardson said. "The good news is that it's putting people to work, but the bad news is that it could be another 170 houses for sale."
Richardson acknowledged, however, that 170 houses on the market would be an extreme. Workers who transfer to other plants often leave their families behind and keep their homes. The workers often get together with other workers to rent housing in the new city and carpool home for three-day weekends.
Over the course of 2008 and through April, about 140 Janesville workers had transferred to other plants.
Verna Saladino, a real estate agent with Coldwell Banker Success in Janesville and president of the Rock-Green Realtors Association, said she hasn't noticed many transfer workers putting their homes on the market.
But that could change, she said, as families tire of having one member hundreds of miles away. And the number of homes on the market likely will increase given the volume of new transfers offered this week, she said.
"It's speculation on my part, but I think we'll see a time where more houses go on the market," she said.
She expects local agents will start getting calls soon from those who will transfer.
"They'll call to pick our brains: Should I put my house on the market or shouldn't I?" she said.
The Janesville School District has been trying to get a handle on GM families leaving the district for months. The loss of students from the latest transfer offers won't affect next year's budget, but it likely would affect staffing levels for the 2010-11 school year and thereafter.
GM workers who transfer will receive an immediate $6,000 signing bonus to help cover upfront expenses, Garavaglia said. When the worker arrives in the new community, he or she will receive an additional $16,000. Another $8,000 is available if the worker stays at the new location for one year.
In accepting the relocation benefit, the worker agrees to give up all seniority rights at the plant they are leaving and establish seniority at the new plant. The worker would maintain corporate seniority for vacation selection, she said.
Richardson said he doesn't know whether GM will offer more transfers to the Fairfax plant.
GM workers across the country are considering a special attrition package that pays them to leave the company. Workers must decide whether to take the attrition offer by next week.
"Whether they need more depends on how many people at Fairfax take the buyout," Richardson said. "There are also a lot of other rumors out there about other plants."
One of those, he said, is the rumor that GM could add a third shift at its plant in Fort Wayne, Ind.


Jul 17, 2009 at 4:21 p.m.
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Just take the jokers comments with a grain of salt.
Remember, anyone can be anything they want in an anonymous comment section....he's proof.
Jul 17, 2009 at 9:46 a.m.
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Kathryn, I have done many great deeds and my actions are the countless dollars I have put back into this community. Don't you tell me my business again!
Jul 17, 2009 at 9:01 a.m.
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The whole "my tax $$$'s are going to bail out GM" is really not true. Your tax $$$'s were all pissed away long ago. You can thank the Chinese and the federal reserve for borrowing us, and printing us, trillions of $$$'s to support a MASSIVE deficit to bail out whoever is in favor (has political clout) with the governmnet. A governmnet who now has exclusive authority in deciding who gets bailed out (more accurately merged with by the governmnet) and who gets steam rolled.
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It is rather amusing to read some comments on here. The GM haters seem to have this notion that the city is somehow going to be just fine in no time. Like this will have no economic impact at all, and are glad the people are leaving. Well, you may want to go check out places like Gary IN, or E Lansing MI...See how things are working out in those places when big industrial producers left town. Drive down the streets of condemned buildings that have been abandoned for decades.
Jul 17, 2009 at 12:42 a.m.
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my only comment on this is that while I am glad that there is hope for a number of the folks laid off from GM, I am, like a few other posters here, angry that they throw so much money at the people who asked/OFFERED to transfer. While at the same time, are begging the government for money from tax payers, and cutting pensions/benefits from the older people who retired after putting in their 30+ years of sweat (prior to the robotic/automated equipment, etc.) My ex-father-in-law risks his medical insurance coverage, (the whole GM crisis has NOT been good for his health and now is afraid to go to the doctor because of the expense and uncertainty of his health coverage), has his federal taxes go up to "bail out GM" and all the while the company he worked at and retired from is literally giving his money to people to move away and potentially cause an increase in his local property tax. Tell me how/why this makes sense to a GM retiree??!
Jul 17, 2009 at 12:41 a.m.
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IMO the Janesville Mall never had that much business to begin with. So I wouldn't judge how Janesville is doing by that alone. And businesses may be shutting down, but new ones are sproutin' up as well. This town will be just fine. The sky isn't falling.
Jul 17, 2009 at 12:15 a.m.
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Joker: degrees and high net worth do not earn respect... actions and deeds do. even if you have a PhD that only stands for "piled higher and deeper" as far as i'm concerned.
Jul 16, 2009 at 11:15 p.m.
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And your humility and modesty almost make you a saint like being.
Jul 16, 2009 at 11:11 p.m.
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Bobb1951,no I did not work at GM. I own several businesses in the area, own real estate and have done very well for myself. You have a lot of nerve to challenge my statements. I deserve respect because I have earned it. My college degrees and high net worth are proof of my success.
Jul 16, 2009 at 9:51 p.m.
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Ok mister ignoramous - go for a ride and look at all the empty businesses. Go to the mall on the weekend and see how many people are NOT there. You must be one of a few fortunate people who are not affected by the job losses -good for you.
Comparing Janesville to Kenosha is like comparing Juda to Janesville?????
Jul 16, 2009 at 8:38 p.m.
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KC is a great city (I travel there for work twice a month). The people are very friendly, there is a lot to do in the area, and the bbq is the best in the world! Best of luck to those moving.
Jul 16, 2009 at 8:23 p.m.
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Congrats to those who found continuous work with the "NEW" GM. And good luck when that closes in two years or less when chapter 7 will finally be filed.
Jul 16, 2009 at 7:18 p.m.
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Any ignoramous who thinks Janesville will be a ghost town is even dumber than the comments they made. Just look at Kenosha who lost over 10,000 in one shot and made it back stronger than ever. Of course it took time, so will this. But many new businesses have already spawned as a result of the GM cloud finally going away.
Jul 16, 2009 at 7:13 p.m.
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I'm posting to address the certain negative few who think they are helping out by advising people to move away from JV. Complaining about how bad it is here and predicting the ghost town future sounds those individuals are pretty bitter and actually hoping for the city of Janesville to hit rock bottom. I'm not sure why? Maybe they feel cheated or were owed a better turnout in life or they're just the type of people who feel better about themselves if they can spread gloom and doom about the future.
Like someone else stated, who exactly is keeping you here against your will. It's a free country, go ahead and leave.
And when Janesville eventually comes out of this economic lull (and it will eventually), don't bother coming back. We'll get by just fine without you.
I've lived in several other parts in the country. Not specifically Kansas, but enough to know that this town isn't as bad as the pessimists would make it out to be. Trust me, there are alot worse places than here.
Jul 16, 2009 at 6 p.m.
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Anyone that complains about what GM workers and getting to transfer should have signed up to work there years ago when the Janesville plant was up and running and then you would have that chance too. It certainly sounds like LOTS of jealously. You can not be so bitter towards the employees - wouldnt you take them up on the offer if you were offered it? And yes- Janesville is going to be a ghost town - hold on!! GM affected a lot of business in Janesville and we have only begun to see the effects. I am very sorry for anyone of the GM workers that have beat up their body for years and am SOOOOO glad that they have the option to transfer to finish out their working career. Keep trucking GM'ers. Oh and co - I am not an employee!!
Jul 16, 2009 at 5:48 p.m.
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miltongirl: yes, you could call UAW and ask them. i was told by a friend that works there that they are not at this time taking anymore transfers. he did say however that they are recieving the Medium truck and the dually pick ups in addition to what they have now. Best bet, call and ask the UAW if any had the opportunity to transfer there.
Jul 16, 2009 at 5:28 p.m.
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I must know you I am in Oshkosh
Jul 16, 2009 at 4:09 p.m.
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Some of the discussion on this board just shows how petty and jealous people are in this city. Until people accept that some people, such as myself, are just more successful than other people, Janesville will be bogged down in finger pointing and negativity.
I do not apologize for being good at what I do. I have worked hard to be a success both personally and professionally. I wish people would try to follow my example, quit complaining and start to make good things happen in their life.
Jul 16, 2009 at 4:09 p.m.
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I cant find the comments from my post yesterday....did anyone answer about Fort Wayne? Are people transferring there or is my ex just giving me a line?
Jul 16, 2009 at 4 p.m.
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What I would like to know is why are they being paid to go back to work. How many other out of work people from other companies would be glad just to be called back to work. This is why the company went bankrupt. The only reason they are still around is because we are paying for it. I feel for anyone who losses a job. But I am sick of hearing about all the benny's being thrown at people who are not any more deserving than some one who worked at Lear or any other company that closed.
Jul 16, 2009 at 3:13 p.m.
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I've been thinking of a new name for Janesville! They are Nothingville, Wis.,Divorceville, Wi., or Brokenheartville, Wi. It's just a little humor to keep us in the mood for the future.
Jul 16, 2009 at 3:08 p.m.
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I'm not saying 15,000 is a drop in the bucket. However, when my mom moved it cost her 6,000 dollars just to move the content of her home. They don't give you enough time to rent a uhaul and do it yourself. You typically have to pay someone to come in a move your belongings. It's still a good deal for GM employees, but it's not like they get that money and run out and buy a new car.
Jul 16, 2009 at 11:29 a.m.
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justsaynotomath when you say "i will not miss gm trucks tailgating me...", did you mean you have had a lot of GM trucks tailgating you? Specifically? Any other anomalies we should know about? Do you mean they're all gone now? If not, I'd consider calling the police. Or a doctor.
Jul 16, 2009 at 11:06 a.m.
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unknown, why are you stuck here? Are you writing from the Rock County jail? Look at some of the on-line job listing web sites. There's jobs all over the country especially for skilled workers. If you have no skill, why?
Jul 16, 2009 at 10:59 a.m.
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bobb1951..you dont immediately recieve $22,000. You get that about 2-3 weeks after you get to the new plant and after taxes its only about $15,000.
Jul 16, 2009 at 10:28 a.m.
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justsaynotomath - Just so you're aware. The number one selling GM vehicle last year was the Chevy Silverado pickup. Number one in the U.S. was the Ford F150 pickup. GM's pickup gets the best gas mileage out of any truck. By the way, gas prices were the worst during this time. Had nothing to do with gas. Those who still believe that, are drunk.
Jul 16, 2009 at 9:12 a.m.
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hey justsaynotomath---I see how you got your name because GM trucks are the most fuel efficient on the highway. Gas guzzling is a term people use for trucks when they don't know anything about them. Maybe when the "gas guzzling" trucks are gone so will be the gas guzzling boats they pull or the the campers or maybe even the equipment trailers. So be careful what you wish for. Pickup trucks and Suvs help to support a lot of different industries.
Jul 16, 2009 at 8:29 a.m.
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I'll chip in too Jenna. Name the time and where you are and I'll be there to get you and your attitude out of town.
Jul 16, 2009 at 8:25 a.m.
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Outsourcing in the USA?
Jul 16, 2009 at 7:44 a.m.
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Good luck to all the G.M employees headed to K.C it's not the end of the world but the begining of a new one. Family will understand and real friends will always be here for you.
Jul 16, 2009 at 6:24 a.m.
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Unidenified do I know you I was the first to go to oshkosh from Janesville
Jul 16, 2009 at 12:51 a.m.
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JohnDoe- I agree with you. I have a truck. If she wants to leave so badly, let's move her out of this awful town she hates so much....
Jul 15, 2009 at 11:31 p.m.
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Jenna... all of your posts are lamenting your apparent inability to leave this city. I'll volunteer to help you out. Bend over and I'll give you a swift kick to get you started on your way.
Jul 15, 2009 at 11:16 p.m.
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I don't blame anyone for moving to support their family. I've personally seen 500 people line up for a 10 dollar an hour assembly job. The local options are sparse to say the least. Several of my former co-workers have moved to Oshkosh for work. Although I think Janesville will recover, not everyone can afford to wait that long. Right now people still have unemployment and schooling, which is keeping people afloat. Once both those run out, I'm truly worried what people are going to do for work.
Jul 15, 2009 at 11:12 p.m.
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I couldn't be more jealous of those of you taking the transfer. YOu are the lucky ones who get to leave this dump.
Congrats...wishing you all the best and wishing I were you.
Jul 15, 2009 at 10:39 p.m.
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Well, Kansas City stinks, but it is a job and 22k. Is it bad for Janesville? No. There are only so many jobs in the Stateline area as it is and we knew some folks would be leaving one way or the other. The downside is more houses on the market that stinks as it is. I'd love to get out of here and am working towards that. Janesville will never be like it was, for better or worse, and myself , like many I know, can't stick around for a decade to see things slowly get better. adios.
Jul 15, 2009 at 10:25 p.m.
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bobb1951..." i have no options to consider"...Actually, you have many options available to you...but you are too wrapped up in self pity to take advantage of what is out there.
Jul 15, 2009 at 10:16 p.m.
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There are many companies out there that offer their employees a relocation allowance. Why is it when GM does this it is bashed around. Do you know how expensive it is to actually relocate? Do you think it is something that GM families want to do? You do what you have to do in order to survive. Good luck to all those families moving to Kansas as well as many families who have and are moving to Texas. We are one of them-I will miss my family and friends-but when you are given an opportunity to keep the seniority you have worked hard for, you do what you have to do. So, people just concentrate on your own life and leave those who have decided to make a change alone and just stop all the bashing.
Jul 15, 2009 at 10:04 p.m.
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Get over the loss of GM, Jville. It's ovr until people can get their acts together to stop to sob story and self pity.
Jul 15, 2009 at 9:41 p.m.
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GM is buying out workers at plants and then paying workers to relocate and take the jobs that are opened up. They are paying to get rid of workers and then paying again to get workers. How can this company ever expect to come out from under at least $60 billion of debt by handing out money like this?
Jul 15, 2009 at 9:25 p.m.
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Sorry, I am not crying or wringing my hands over these transfers. Must be nice to be handed money when you walk in the door. Good for them and good luck. Reminds me of people who are in the Army Reserves or National Guard who freak out when they are called up for active duty. Hello, you knew that this could happen and being called up is exactly what the purpose of army reserves is for.
The Janesville diaspora has begun. Sad but true! Drastic cuts in city and school services are around the corner.
Jul 15, 2009 at 9:14 p.m.
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Obviously you are a weed in Janesville's lawn as you can not even give the city name the respect and courtesy to spell it correctly. Well, I fell back for a moment. No more responses to your inmature comments. Time to spray the weeds!
Jul 15, 2009 at 8:52 p.m.
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Maybe in MAYBERRY,but band together in janesburg,good luck. In reality the only people in janes. that have ever banded together,are the people of the unions. All the rest are me me me!
Jul 15, 2009 at 8:10 p.m.
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Here, here get. The ignorance of the comments is mind boggling. Obviously some of the people in this blog do not know math. How is Janesville going to be a ghost town when GM employees and affiliate companies only made up 4,000 out of a town of 64,000. Many whom never lived within the city limits, many whom will remain here because of retirement, school, their families, etc... We are American's in trouble, and there is no time for ignorance and damaged egos. It is time to band together!!!
Jul 15, 2009 at 8:01 p.m.
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I tell you the petty jealousy is sickening. How old is everybody you sound like you are in grade school. Grow up! And for everyones information I do not or did not work at GM. My kids sound more grown up than you people!
Jul 15, 2009 at 7:48 p.m.
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I see the only people complaining are the ones that don't work for G.M. If you did,we would not be hearing a word from you. Jealous much!! Ghost town janesburg is right around the corner,BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Jul 15, 2009 at 7:39 p.m.
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Oh I am sure there are enough spineless back-boned republicans who went along to get along with the tax and spend liberals.
Jul 15, 2009 at 6:23 p.m.
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Now now Nemisis, don't be trying to push this on the dems. I should think you would know by that there is enough blame to go around and not just pin in on any one party or thing.
Try to think beyond the box okay?
Jul 15, 2009 at 5:19 p.m.
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You can thank the UAW - our wonderful governor Doyle - and the "always caring for the little guy" democrats in the state government for making it harder for businesses to make a profit and making it necessary to move jobs to other states. But hey, look at the bright side: those who are moving can look forward to milder winters, less state taxes, and better bar-b-que.
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