Man forced from car in Walmart lot

By GAZETTE STAFF   Saturday, July 18, 2009
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— A 20-year-old Janesville man was forcibly removed from his vehicle in a car-jacking incident Thursday in the parking lot of Walmart, 3800 Deerfield Drive.

Two or three men yanked the victim from his vehicle, pushed him down and punched him before driving away in his black 1999 Mercedes-Benz E320 shortly after 3 p.m., said Sgt. Todd Kleisner of the Janesville Police Department.

The men had been waiting for the victim to return in another car, a white Chevrolet Blazer, Kleisner said. Police aren’t sure why they targeted the Mercedes, he said.

Kleisner did not have a specific description of the robbers.

No weapons were involved, and the victim was not injured, he said.

The stolen Mercedes struck another vehicle as the robbers drove it out of the parking lot, Kleisner said.







reader COMMENTS (146)
justsaynotomath
Aug 19, 2009 at 11:16 a.m.
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momof5, The year and make I drive has no recalls period. I am not going to tell you just to prove my point and let a crazy person like you know who I am. I don't pick my cars based on looks. I pick based on performance and mpg and you should try the same. I never said I was better than you or anyone for that matter. after reading your comments I think it's obvious your mental state needs help. My user name is sarcastic and I wish yours was too, poor kids !

hannah
Jul 30, 2009 at 10:22 a.m.
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momnahalf- yes what is with this STUPID comment on EVEY BLOG?????? shut up already.

Momnahalf
Jul 30, 2009 at 4:09 a.m.
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Are you reading the truth, or what Editor Scott Angus wants you to hear ? It seems Mr. Angus has taken up censorship on other articles on the Gazette Extra.....

http://www.gazettextra.com/news/2009/jul...

albks55
Jul 27, 2009 at 6:27 p.m.
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nothng to do with drugs or gangs ppl know what your talking bout. if u were a street thug or w.e with nothnig 2 loose y wouldent u take a mercedes and make sum extra money? the guy is a family man has gone threw alot and is taking care of his family duin whats right... few can relate...

TrojanVirus187
Jul 24, 2009 at 1:14 p.m.
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momo: I didn't read them all because they started to get too off topic :) I did skim through some of them to see if any of them seemed relevant to the story, but I had no luck!

momof5
Jul 24, 2009 at 12:55 p.m.
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trojan: then don't read them ALL.

But, I agree with your assessment of the situation. I think the majority of us on here find something is amiss here and more than meets the eye....

TrojanVirus187
Jul 24, 2009 at 12:45 p.m.
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A lot of these comments are WAY off topic, it's very annoying to read all of them.

If the car is going to a chop shop (which I believe it is) then the older the car, the better. All I did was google "chop shop" and I found my answer.

This isn't a random act, so people don't need to be scared if it's going to happen to them. Although, to be cautious is always a good thing. I happen to know WHO the victim is. I don't know that I should be posting this, but I will anyways. He is a former gang member who is trying to straighten out his life. I believe (don't KNOW) that his former gang went after him because he left. I *do* believe that this is an act of gang retaliation. If this victim had a gun on him and fought back, the victim would go to jail. He's under close police supervision and they're waiting for him to mess up. Also, if he had a gun on him and killed/injured the people who attacked him, then chances are, other gang members would find him and kill him/seriously injure him. (provided it's the gang who did this.)

Maybe I gave too much information, I don't know. If I did, I'm sure my comment will be removed.

hannah
Jul 23, 2009 at 9:59 a.m.
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916wi"I never said I had a Mercedes,"

NEVER said you did!!! maybe it is you who cannot read.

momof5
Jul 23, 2009 at 8:55 a.m.
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Hannah: hitch? Rear end? You crack me up!! Omg!

And....thanks for coming to my rescue re: bigger woman :)

916: Why are you so hung up on the 0-60 speed? Hasn't anyone ever told you that slow and steady wins the race? Or half of the fun is in getting there? I'm not interested in 0-60 as much as I am in what's under the hood or the junk in the trunk :p

prevention
Jul 23, 2009 at 12:50 a.m.
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I'll take my beautiful Focus anyday over those over priced pieces of crap.

facebooker09
Jul 22, 2009 at 9:13 p.m.
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no problem momof5! :)

916WI
Jul 22, 2009 at 7:20 p.m.
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Hannah....It looks like you put the same amount of effort writing your posts as you do reading the posts of others:) I never said I had a Mercedes, I was simply defending the fact that this guys car was getting railed on for being a unreliable, ugly piece of junk. I'm a huge fan of imports, both euro and Japanese, and when I see them getting bashed, I try to inject some reality and truth into the conversation!

Momof5....Trust me--there's almost a 100% chance that I wouldn't be jealous at all......Not into the Yukon driving/mom scene at all, so I probably wouldn't even notice:) No offense, of course--just not my scene. Not to prolong this agony of the "ugly car" discussion, but google the Cayenne. Porsche fans almost universally cry when it comes to that SUV. It performs as well as it looks--poor mid 8 second 0-60 times. As much as I hate GM cars I would have to go with the G8. Technically it's a Holden(built in Australia) car, so I have to give it some credit for that. Good luck w/ whichever you decide to go with!

Placebo
Jul 22, 2009 at 6:47 p.m.
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hannah: If you watch closely in this clip of Walker Texas Ranger, you can see a C class in the background towards the end. Thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ5w4MkFo...

hannah
Jul 22, 2009 at 6:34 p.m.
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momof5"
916: my point in listing the recalls was that "math" said the C320 had NO recalls EVER. She wants to talk about lies and eating words..."

I want to know if this car that she really doesnt own was the car she picked to tell us all about since she doesnt even own this car????


what are we going to hunt you down if you tell us a correct model of the car you drive???? maybe you are ashamed.

Like I said mercedes is on the list of repairs often. you just got lucky with yours.

hannah
Jul 22, 2009 at 6:31 p.m.
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916wi- I'm sure being a bigger woman with 5 kids "

she isnt if you must know!!!! petite I would say. and no not fat petite.

hannah
Jul 22, 2009 at 6:27 p.m.
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momof5- oops yukon curb weight 5270. do you have a hitch?????? you can add to the curb weight if you do.

Some want a hitch for that extra safety if rear ended!!!

jsntm- do you have a hitch?????

hannah
Jul 22, 2009 at 6:24 p.m.
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curb weight avalanche- 5599
curb weight mc mercedes( mc stands for mysterious class) of 4000.

justsaynotomath- I will not agree this time. Maybe you said no to math and arent good at it. I learnt(haha) in 1st grade that 4 is LESS than 5 therefore 4000 is less than 5599.

Placebo
Jul 22, 2009 at 6:21 p.m.
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Situations such as this would be easily remedied by the example in this Walker Texas Ranger clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ5w4MkFo...

ihavealife
Jul 22, 2009 at 6:11 p.m.
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WOW....500cc's of saline ?? In your lips ??? lol !! Or is that what they use to fill in crows feet ?? SIGN ME UP !!!

momof5
Jul 22, 2009 at 6:06 p.m.
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Facebooker: thank you for "defending" me...but the truth is the last laugh is on 916. Those who know me on here, know that I am FAR from being a "bigger woman" or fat. I wore a 0 in high school. I weigh the same now as I did then (plus whatever 500cc's of saline weigh...).

Besides, he's just jealous that he can't make driving a piece of "junk" "ugly" Yukon look as hot as I do :)

PS-916...my husband has his eye on one of 2 cars by year's end: a Pontiac G8 and a Porsche Cayenne. I PrOMISE you either of them will smoke your M3--even with my "bigger" body riding shotgun!

hannah
Jul 22, 2009 at 5:40 p.m.
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sluggo- that is the name of the granual stuff I put agound my hostas so slugs dont eat them.

Had to say that it just sounds like cool name.

The stuff works great too.

hannah
Jul 22, 2009 at 5:38 p.m.
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momof5"You are a tried and true MOPAR girl and I am a bow tie girl....let's just agree to disagree on which one is better :"

will do but the reason I say some of these things is because I have driving them at trainings and you would be amazed at the difference between the two when you do simulated things on a closed course that you may not do on the road but MAY in an emergency situation . Some of the things we just normal driving examples as well.

hannah
Jul 22, 2009 at 5:33 p.m.
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ihavealife
Jul 22, 2009 at 2:06 p.m.
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lol-we know somebody that like to watch the tape just for FUN??? real fun I say. Not really though.

916WI
Jul 22, 2009 at 5:12 p.m.
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facebooker......Who asked you? And when is being called a bigger person such a negative thing? Stop trying to project your negativity through my comments.....

facebooker09
Jul 22, 2009 at 5:04 p.m.
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916wi do you know her personally? If not lay off. I dont knwo her either but Id never call someone fat without seeing them. And dont come back saying I called her a "bigger woman" its the same thing.

thekid3477
Jul 22, 2009 at 4:27 p.m.
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greengina: they have not made any arrests. the police are to busy arresting hippies.

916WI
Jul 22, 2009 at 3:18 p.m.
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mooof5.....Yep, keep telling yourself that!!!:) I would hardly call seat belt retractors anything to get worked up about. Over the last couple of years the Yukon has been recalled for electrical issues, fuel delivery issues, brake problems, head restraint problems and, you guessed it, seat belt retractor problems.........The guy with the C320 is the one driving the junk? Seriously....LMFAO!!!! I think you better take a look in the mirror to get a look at who the true clueless one is:) Have fun watching Oprah!

momof5
Jul 22, 2009 at 2:54 p.m.
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916: my point in listing the recalls was that "math" said the C320 had NO recalls EVER. She wants to talk about lies and eating words...

Speaking of eating: I am kinda hungry. It's been a good 30 minutes since I last fed this hunka hunka burning love beastly body of mine. Better go eat bon bons (no fat free for this wamma jamma) and watch Oprah. LMFAO!! If you ever saw me, you'd realize how HILARIOUS you calling me a "bigger woman" really is....unless you are referring to my mental capacity and in that case you are correct and I thank you.

ihavealife
Jul 22, 2009 at 2:06 p.m.
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Video cameras are just for show !!

916WI
Jul 22, 2009 at 12:28 p.m.
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Momof5......We get it, you think his car is ugly. People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones though. The Yukon is a little on the embarrassing side. I'm sure being a bigger woman with 5 kids you need the extra carrying capacity:) This doesn't change the fact that the Yukon is hardly what one would call an attractive vehicle--quite the opposite actually..........BTW--I checked the reliability rating of the GMC Yukon.....6 out of 10. Congratulations--a good solid D minus!!!!!! The recall history you posted on the Merc C320 had nothing to do with it being the supercharged version.....It was a recall w/ seat belt tensioners. Funny though.....back when I was driving my GM product, before I made the switch to imports, this was one of the many things that my car had to go into the shop for..... for.........

greengina8
Jul 22, 2009 at 12:23 p.m.
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So, have they got any usable evidence from the video cameras? Have they made any arrests in this case?

lovebeingmarried
Jul 22, 2009 at 11:52 a.m.
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best car on the road...haha...try lookin up the safest car on the road today. Cause if its up to math here its ok to drive high so we need the SAFTY factor.

momof5
Jul 22, 2009 at 11:50 a.m.
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Mercedes-Benz C320 Repair and Maintenance : RepairPalInformation on Mercedes-Benz C320 including known problems, ... THE RECALL BEGAN ON MARCH 15, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT MERCEDES-BENZ AT 1-800-367-6372. ...
www.repairpal.com/cars/mercedes-benz/c32...

2005 Mercedes-Benz C-Class C230 Kompressor Hatchback Recalls ...THE RECALL BEGAN ON AUGUST 30, 2008. OWNERS MAY CONTACT MERCEDES-BENZ AT 1-800- 367-6372. ... 2005 Mercedes-Benz C-Class C320 Sport Hatchback ...www.internetautoguide.com/...recalls/.../mercedes.../c-class/.../index.html

2004 Mercedes-benz C320 Sport Coupe recalls, safety ratings at CARFAXThis 2004 MERCEDES-BENZ C320 SPORT COUPE safety recall information was provided by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, Highway Data Loss Institute ...
www.carfax.com/.../MERCEDES.../2004MERZC... COUPE

And...wow! A Kompressor got recalled. Those are suppose to be the creme de la creme!

momof5
Jul 22, 2009 at 11:42 a.m.
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More THAN not then.

There ya are, thekid!!!! :)

momof5
Jul 22, 2009 at 11:40 a.m.
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Math: nope, not full yet. I couldn't care less who you bought your car from, how much you paid for your house, what you think of GM...point is you drive an ugly overpriced boat (which seems to have given you a false sense of status) and have the nerve to THINK you are better than anyone else, throw out demeaning personal insults (how classy of you!) and smoke pot. You are confident and comfortable in what your drive and so am I. End of discussion......

thekid3477
Jul 22, 2009 at 11:36 a.m.
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as if you cant have a good life with a 115G house?? LOTS of peeps in this area who spent more and are havin a lil trouble makin pmts...but anyways...did someone say something about a dime bag?? ill throw in;)

justsaynotomath
Jul 22, 2009 at 11:05 a.m.
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it was 115,00 mortgage not house. a man going to Iraq not boy. why again are we talking about my personal life and your assumptions ?

justsaynotomath
Jul 22, 2009 at 11:03 a.m.
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who said not liking GM meant also not liking the workers ? Gm sucks not it's workers, i know several. who doesn't ? 2002 is not a collector and it is still worth more then 14,000. so are you getting full off eating your own words words yet ? making assumptions and reading old posts to make personal attacks too ? when did being honest become a bad thing ?

ihavealife
Jul 22, 2009 at 10:47 a.m.
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WoW...Some make it sound that they have GOOD lives...A $115,000 house and a used car bought from a kid going to Iraq...Small world we live in.... :)

momof5
Jul 22, 2009 at 10:39 a.m.
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Math: I've been thinking for the last 30-some minutes about my response to you. The best I can come up with is 1) lmfao! And 2) yes! I am proud of the Avalanche...so much so it is what we are using for a Christmas card backdrop this year :) (just because I am loyal to GM does NOT mean I like every product they have put out or agree with how they have been brought to market. I, do however, have a lot of respect for the men and women who worked at THIS plant and THAT is why my USED Yukon (that's for you 916) is my vehicle of choice...and YES! It was built in Janesville).

If you've been driving your Benz for 7 years, and you bought it used....does it have collector's plates now? Oooo....you drive a Benz. Too bad it is probably worth less than a dime bag :) :)

justsaynotomath
Jul 22, 2009 at 10:37 a.m.
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momof5,I don't live in a mansion, or have a second mortgage, or boat, or vacation home, or even cable for that matter. i don't have to spend 60 dollars to fill up either. i also don't have 5 kids to feed. i know how to spend my money and have nice things i can depend on and not have to replace them. cheap junk is exactly that cheap and you will spend more replacing and repairing then just buying "expensive" to begin with. also i bought it my car used and 7 years before my fire and job loss (which if you had remembered we didn't lose our job in the end). learn to spend money correctly and you will not need to speculate on my life.

momof5
Jul 22, 2009 at 9:58 a.m.
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916: you dirty rascal! How did you know? Not a big fan of the t-tops though, really. Now...a Landau top and some wood paneling and I'll be swooning for days. :)

justsaynotomath
Jul 22, 2009 at 9:21 a.m.
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justsaynotomath
Jul 22, 2009 at 9:15 a.m.
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a typo is your best argument ? yes my car weights as much or more then your truck. you should think about that and how i get twice the gas millage as you even with all the weight. it's called center of gravity and i could blow by you in 3.4 seconds and still get better gas millage.

justsaynotomath
Jul 22, 2009 at 8:36 a.m.
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momof5, are you proud of the Avalanche ? not American that's for sure. just another dirty GM secret. HYPOCRITES !

916WI
Jul 21, 2009 at 9:35 p.m.
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Sorry momof5.....I didn't realize you had the ability to be sarcastic! Usually you come off as clueless, so you can understand where I'm coming from:) Seriously though--as far as you calling other peoples cars ugly, please don't go there when you're driving something "close" to a Suburban........Not a fan of the M5 at all, as I'm not into 4 door cars. As far as impressing you, somehow I get the impression that it would take something much, much less than a M5......a clean,'86 Olds Cutlass, with t-tops and a velour interior would probably do the trick......tell the truth now:)

momof5
Jul 21, 2009 at 8:53 p.m.
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PS--916WI: when and ONLY when you get an M5 will I be impressed by you :) Although, ya know, my therapy is working wonders...thanks for suggesting it. LMAO!! :)

momof5
Jul 21, 2009 at 8:49 p.m.
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916WI: First of all, I do not drive a Suburban. Try again. You are close, however. Secondly, did I say ANYTHING about Bimmers? Lastly, I know it is BRAKE pads...I was poking fun at "jsntm"....DUH!

916WI
Jul 21, 2009 at 8:13 p.m.
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Momof5--Too funny......No one driving a Suburban should be commenting on the ugliness of another's choice of car. That's totally the pot calling the kettle black.:) There are quite a few German cars that my family members own. They all get driven extensively. The '03 M3 had a problem with fluid leaking out of it's rear view mirror. BMW NA replaced it even though it was out of warranty and the Merc G500 had an interior door handle break. No problems with the other two. The cars are solid and feel more "substantial" when compared to domestics. None of them have ever been stuck on the side of a road. Also, it's "brake" pads, not "break" pads......Now, let's try to stay on topic please.......

tater
Jul 21, 2009 at 7:57 p.m.
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Hey pubsrus - I watch with interest as the JD Powers rankings come out, and am always hopeful to see GM moving up.

However, the list you posted is not their Car Quality rating (which is the one the media always shouts about), but rather the results of their 2006 Customer Service Index Study, a study that not only is a few years old, but also is a rating of the brands' dealer service departments. (See http://www.autoblog.com/2006/07/21/j-d-p... for pubs' numbers)
To see the more important quality study, click here: http://www.carforums.net/showthread.php?...
Both Cadillac and Mercedes are above the industry standards, but sadly Buick, GMC, Saturn and Pontiac are not.

And just so no-one thinks that I'm GM-bashing, we drive 2 GM and 1 Ford product in our family.

Unidentified
Jul 21, 2009 at 6:58 p.m.
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Oh yeah! Well...well... you are all just a bunch of poopie heads. I've officially sunk this topic to it's lowest level. Now we can move forward in our car of choice. :P

momof5
Jul 21, 2009 at 6:20 p.m.
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Justsaynotomath rambles: "here is some schooling for you GM lovers and Mercedes haters ! the Mercedes C320 (not the car that was stolen)is the best car on the road by far, period. it is made by UNION auto workers who are treated better then Union GM auto workers by far. it has NO recalls,ever ! it gets 33 mpg and has almost 4000 lbs of solid steal not plastic like American cars. I have been driving mine for 7 years and have never had a break down. only tires, oil, and break pads. the only way to steal a Mercedes c320 is to have the key ! yes the car is very expensive but it doesn't break down and the Union workers who made it have jobs and health insurance. GM would like you to believe they are the only UNION cars on the road but that is a lie like most things they say. I see GM cars/trucks on the side of the road all the time, but i never see a Mercedes on the side of the road. if you keep eating crap and saying it taste great i guess it's not a lie if you believe it !"

1-Congratulations! You drive an UGLY car. Please pick up your prize at the Gazette the second Tuesday of next week.

2-I don't EVER remember GM EVER saying they were the only Unionized auto manufacturer. Did you forget, or not know, that the UAW also covers Ford, Chrysler and others? In FACT, if you go to the UAW website, it will give a list of makes/models of vehicles that are "permitted" to be parked on Union grounds. I KNOW there are "transplants" on that list.

3-Maybe you see domestics on the side of the road because the owners are not mortgaged up the wazoo or maxed out on credit because they didn't "have" to drive a high faluting Benz and therefore have more disposable income allowing them to DRIVE their vehicles places and spend money doing things instead of being holed up in their McMansions.

4-My full-size SUV probably doesn't weigh 4,000 pounds. Think about what you said for a minute, ok?! 33 mpg AND 4,000 pounds of steel. Are we talking steel wool?!

5-How does one endure a fire, job loss and other personal crisis and still manage to drive a "very expensive" Benz? And people THINK GM'ers live above their means.....

6-How expensive are BREAK pads for a C320?

momof5
Jul 21, 2009 at 5:58 p.m.
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Hannah: I was JOKING! You know I come from a GM family. Just like you with Chrysler, I get a little "protective" over the brand. I will drive a GM product any day of the week and twice on Sundays. No doubt. I will agree with you on the Jaguar: especially the X-Type. I've never been so happy to sell a car in my life! However, our Hummer was AWESOME. The only complaint I had was that it was underpowered--so stupid to put an inboard 5 in that beast. You are a tried and true MOPAR girl and I am a bow tie girl....let's just agree to disagree on which one is better :) (although a "friend" has a new Challenger and he says the Camaro is hands down a better car and nicer ride....)

TheCourtJester
Jul 21, 2009 at 5:20 p.m.
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I would think that a carjacker at Wal-Mart would be looking for targets of opportunity. Having driven through that lot, I’d have to say that Mercedes, while old, would make a pretty good target- comparatively speaking.

Mikki
Jul 21, 2009 at 3:51 p.m.
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I am just wondering if these guys perhaps stole the car to part it out. Maybe it's only worth $7K (which isn't bad for a 10 year old car) but wouldn't it be worth more parted-out?

SwissChick
Jul 21, 2009 at 2:48 p.m.
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Who gives a rat's behind what you or anybody drives. Sounds like a little ego boosting to me.

Who cares?? Only you.

justsaynotomath
Jul 21, 2009 at 9:10 a.m.
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pubsrus, first of all you have the wrong car ! do you think i would tell you the exact make of my car. so, my numbers are right and you are still wrong. not to mention JD Power rankings are paid for by the car companies. so only an idiot would go off their numbers.

Opinionsforfree
Jul 21, 2009 at 8:41 a.m.
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I am glad to see all the tools on this board that think they get a great deal from shopping at walmart. If you folks would try shopping at other stores you would see that your getting ripped off. If I were to ever feel bad about myself I would just walk around a walmart store and it would make me feel better

Unidentified
Jul 21, 2009 at 8:14 a.m.
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It's a blog. People discuss. That's the point. The story leaves room for conversation due to a lack of information. If it was clear cut and completely laid out, then the conversation wouldn't veer of course. In addition, it wouldn't be nearly as long. Gazette writers aren't as stupid as people think. If they misspell a word, it's one to ten people who feel the need to post about it, which is more eyeballs on the ads. If they leave out details on a story it creates speculation and people veer off topic. More eyeballs on the ads.

JustAskMe
Jul 21, 2009 at 7:10 a.m.
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With the change to only putting snippets of news on this website, we are all becoming reporters, investigators, and editors.

displacedworker
Jul 21, 2009 at 2:22 a.m.
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sluggo
Jul 21, 2009 at 1:35 a.m.
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BRAVO to all of you liitle junior detectives and wanna be editors! BRAVO I SAY BRAVO

srjndb
Jul 21, 2009 at 12:33 a.m.
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I think it's funny, once again, that a story about some messed up guys leads to fighting about cars and Walmart bashing...where are these conversations going????

SarahB1
Jul 20, 2009 at 9 p.m.
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gonefishin: Unfortunately, the bad guys probably would have had guns too ... the victim might be dead in that case.

hannah
Jul 20, 2009 at 7:26 p.m.
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remember these stats of first year dependability log every service item. If a something came loose and they called to make an appointment to put it back on it would be logged as a warranty issue even thought it was SO small of a thing.

This is why you see crazy coverages on them now because they continually improve on this for the last 14 years. LIFETIME on engine and transmission and some of the 4x4 stuff as LONG AS YOU OWN THE CAR. Well okay you need to live for 89 more years from the time you buy it. THis is for first owner only. YOu can buy a warranty and have bumper to bumper for as long as you own it for a very decent price.


yes back to it. Just some pepper spray may have helped. I think I will put that back in my car. It is at work becuase a customer freaked me out once.

You could say "please wait I need my whatever out of the car"

gonefishin
Jul 20, 2009 at 7:04 p.m.
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anyway, back to the topic. Im not for or against anything with guns. Doesnt matter to me either way. But how sweet would it have been if this was a concealed carry state, or whatever its called, and the victim was carrying. These little punks would have crapped their pants!!!

gonefishin
Jul 20, 2009 at 7 p.m.
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sorry, not worst. but barely average or below average in dependability. Dodge and Jeep are way below average in dependability.

gonefishin
Jul 20, 2009 at 6:51 p.m.
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That would explain your blind loyalty to one of the worst vehicle manufacturers in terms of dependability.

Unidentified
Jul 20, 2009 at 6:41 p.m.
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I'm not suggesting I'd ever steal a car or rob anything. In addition, I drive American cars. However, if I was to make the jump into a life of crime there is several things:
1. I wouldn't rob a bank or home unless I could get enough money to live a comfortable life out of the country.
2. I wouldn't steal a Chevy or Ford (other than maybe a Corvette). If I'm going to steal something, it's going to be something I couldn't own on my own. A Mercedes, Lexus, Jaguar, maybe a Caddy. The fact that it was an older Mercedes probably wasn't the first thought that came to the thieves minds. I wouldn't want to do time in jail for a Chevy Cavalier or a Ford Focus. If I'm going down, I'm going down in style! I'd want to look good for the car chase on TV.

hannah
Jul 20, 2009 at 6:33 p.m.
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cannot say outloud but it seems I do.

gonefishin
Jul 20, 2009 at 6:19 p.m.
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hmmmmmmm, Im pretty sure anyone can figure out that what theyre referring to is whether it was just random or targeted for other reasons. I.E. drug related, gang related, etc....

JustAskMe
Jul 20, 2009 at 6:12 p.m.
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"Police aren’t sure why they targeted the Mercedes..." ... hmmmm ... I wonder how many thieves leave a Mercedes to car-jack a Blazer?

gonefishin
Jul 20, 2009 at 6:10 p.m.
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I take it you work at a chrysler dealership huh hannah?

hannah
Jul 20, 2009 at 5:56 p.m.
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I would also like to say that I have probably have done this myself but I am not the one complaining about it . If you are going to say things like this then you shouldn't be a hypocrite!

hannah
Jul 20, 2009 at 5:54 p.m.
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Marge123- well if you want to make fun of spelling and grammar maybe you should go back to 3rd grade and learn you dont start a sentence with BUT.

hannah
Jul 20, 2009 at 5:53 p.m.
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SwissChick
Jul 20, 2009 at 3:49 p.m.
Suggest removal I don't believe Ford has made Windstar's for about 6 years (2003?). Anything that is 6 years old or more might have a couple of itches or two.

this is what I mean- when you could put them all side by side to caompare.

BTW- NEITHER OF them MAKE vans anymore- what does that tell you. I know you cannot tell me people arent buying them anymore!!!!!!! That is mostly what we sell. People still need that space and the older folks like the ease of getting in and out and taking their stuff to FL and still having seats with them.

anyhoo too haha
"SwissChick
Jul 20, 2009 at 3:51 p.m.
Suggest removal Anyhoo, getting back to the subject at hand: I believe there will bne more information coming out on this as I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was targeted for more than the car

I agree at least like I mentioned I hope this is the case.

as far as hearing any more about it 50/50 chance on the gazette followup.

"jvldss
Jul 20, 2009 at 4:15 p.m.
Suggest removal Times are tough when people with Mrcedes automobiles have to shop at WalMart.'

that was sorta rude- I will use the cliche quote"how do you think they got that way"?

I dont go to target because Yes I would rather save a $1 on an item sorry. Also all the RED in there just gives me bad vibes.- it is not a comfortabler color- whoever came up with the idea of red was not so smart as far as advertizing goes RED MEANS NO!! green means GO.

sorry off track again it is slow today. and before you bla bla bla does your boss know bla bla bla etc- we dont get paid till we sell something and we cannot cold call bla bla bla- or if you prefer yada yada yada.


ADULTS SHOULDNT PICK ON PEOPLE AT ALL if you are to ack like an ADULT!!

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darwin1
Jul 20, 2009 at 4:42 p.m.
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More than likely the car will be chopped for parts. I am sure that the car is worth more in pieces than whole. GM parts are a dime a dozen, but Mercedez parts are expensive and a lot harder to get.

jvldss
Jul 20, 2009 at 4:15 p.m.
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Times are tough when people with Mrcedes automobiles have to shop at WalMart.

janesvillean
Jul 20, 2009 at 4:13 p.m.
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Well, that really does depend on whether it was the owner who was targeted, or if this was a theft to order. If the latter the car is probably hundreds of miles away and perhaps already dismantled. Either way, I don't think this is a particular concern for the neighborhood -- they targeted the Wal-Mart lot because it's big and anonymous.
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If it was just for drug money they could have stolen any car they could jack (and an experienced car thief can bash into almost any car and get it going in 60 seconds). So there was probably something about *this* vehicle.

SwissChick
Jul 20, 2009 at 3:51 p.m.
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Anyhoo, getting back to the subject at hand: I believe there will bne more information coming out on this as I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was targeted for more than the car and there's more to the story than what he has told police and/or what they've told the public.

SwissChick
Jul 20, 2009 at 3:49 p.m.
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I don't believe Ford has made Windstar's for about 6 years (2003?). Anything that is 6 years old or more might have a couple of itches or two.

hannah
Jul 20, 2009 at 3:37 p.m.
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yess you could feel the differance between the mercedes and a chevy. and YES you get what you pay for. ANd yes cannot all afford a new mercedes. but I would take a NEW jeep over an old mercedes as far as safety updates over the last 10 years.
I do wish some would feel the differance between a CHEVY and a chrysler vehicle. I am not bashing gm but a crhysler is better buildt and sturdier longer. Drive a venture van that is a few years old or a ford windstar compared to a chrysler van. YOU may not even have to drive it just open and close the door.

I wasnt the one to be off track FIRST so why are you picking on me???

SwissChick
Jul 20, 2009 at 3:23 p.m.
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Then again, not everyone can afford to drop a pile of green on a Mercedes.

916WI
Jul 20, 2009 at 3:08 p.m.
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Hannah.....You're way off topic....again......I'm fairly sure that "just say no" wasn't talking about impact zones, when he was describing how "plastic" the domestic cars are compared to his Merc. It was most likely a description of the interior and exterior feel of the car. You can throw up a little chart with numbers relating to quality, but at the end of a day, if you were to put a Mercedes next to a Chevy and ask 10 objective people which car felt more solid and offered a higher level of quality, the Mercedes would get picked 10 out of 10 times......Obviously they cost more, but you get what you pay for.......

gonefishin
Jul 20, 2009 at 3:07 p.m.
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Wow, opinionsforfree just wasted 3 minutes of my life that Ill never get back. The key to that video was at the end, 5000 stores and GROWING!

melstew47
Jul 20, 2009 at 2:32 p.m.
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now were all mindless walmart shoppers,lol,and that is coming from the mouth of a mindless idiot.im very sure their not going to close their doors because you dont shop there.i will say it wasnt very nice of me to call you a mindless idiot,but you shouldnt call names, and people wouldnt call you names,so in my opinion you deserved it now have a nice day.

Opinionsforfree
Jul 20, 2009 at 12:39 p.m.
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a movie worth watching for all you mindless walmart shoppers. I can't remember the last time I gave walmart any of my money. www.walmartmovie.com/

hannah
Jul 20, 2009 at 12:34 p.m.
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http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm

says 26mpg on the highway

as i said she may get 33 becasue of driving habits.

mine says 18 on hwy and I can get 21-23 and it is a hemi suv.

They also made those BIG numbers way more conservitve now becuase of complainers not reading the TINY number range.

I do find it hard to believe a 2 door coupe to weigh 4k lbs!!!

jsntm- we want those "plastic" cars as you say to take the inpact of the collision that is why they get so beat up in a wreak. They are made to do that to take must of the impact instead of the PERSON. that is why they dont make TANK of cars any more.

hannah
Jul 20, 2009 at 12:26 p.m.
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pubsrus- if she is getting 33 on the hyw maybe it is a diesel????

depends on driving habits too.

if it is a 4 door sedan i see no reason why she would nt be getting 33 mpg onthe hwy.
most 4 door sedans depending on exact size and engine get <25 - >28. I usually dont defend her but will on this one because it is prob true.

hannah
Jul 20, 2009 at 12:20 p.m.
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jsntm"NO recalls,ever " doesnt mean they dont fix them a lot. mercedes is also on the lower end of that scale I mentioned. again perception of mercedes is wonderful but actually repairs are often. they may be just under the amount of repairs on a certain item to actually put it into "recall" status. sometimes it takes MANY years for a recal to finally be given.
example had a 01 grand cherokee calipers heated up too much and would warp the rotars. had warranty replace often bUT never recalled them. in 05 ish received a letter " recalled 99-03ish jeep brakes. If you had to pay for repair they would send you some partial refund IF you had your receipt. SAVE THOSE RECEIPTS. luckily I had it all covered under warranty cause I dont drive many miles.

They dont have brake problems like this anymore.

hannah
Jul 20, 2009 at 12:12 p.m.
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janesvillean- if the car is 10 years old it is perfect age to go to mexico!!!!! the cars that go into mexico now can be only EXActly 10 YEARS OLD. nO MORE NO LESS!!!

LandRover 840
Suzuki 823
Volkswagen 810
Isuzu 781
For all you GM haters look at #2 and #3 and chevrolet has better quality than Mercedes. Once again percetion becomes reality.

FUNNY YOU SPEAK OF PERCEPTION
People perceive volkswagon to be GOOD quality and theyre in the shop all the time.

Momof5- I believe this is similiar to another quality scale that has to do with the 1 year of a car that is "inservice" date.
the record all the warranty repairs to a car in the first year. hummer is also at the bottom of that list along with jaguar wich is a fancy ford. if somebody cannot operate their bmw buttons they may call for a service appointment thinking something is WRONG it gets logged as a repair even though it is driver error or driver cannot figure out how to work it. Hope that makes sense.

it is only worth $7000 why would somebody want to steal it?????? it is a $7000 car they DONT have themselves!!!

this is scary- I do hope it has to do with something and there arent just random people out there stealing cars now.


good point ARE THE CAMERAS ON????

hannah
Jul 20, 2009 at 11:58 a.m.
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"dub190
Jul 18, 2009 at 6:36 p.m.
Suggest removal It takes a real idiot to steal a car from the most recorded area in Janesville"

true BUT they prob wont get caught either even though theyre on camera. do they have the dl#from the blazer??? prob not.

partarican1
Jul 20, 2009 at 11:33 a.m.
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Have the police made any arrests in this case? This is really scary. It's not far from my house, and it makes me glad I drive a piece of s#!* that only I want to drive. The entire parking lot at WalMart has surveilance(sp?) cameras; did they catch this car-jacking on tape?

CallitasIseeit
Jul 20, 2009 at 10:22 a.m.
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pubsrus-If you have been around this blog long you would realize that justsaynotomath has very little use for truth, common sense or civility in any of her posts.

pubsrus
Jul 20, 2009 at 10:07 a.m.
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justsaynotomath--once again you prove your screen name. No recalls of the C320 Mercedes??? Just doing a yahoo search I found at least three recalls of the 2001, 2003, and 2005 C320. 33 miles to the gallon? 4000 pounds of steel??? Read the specs of this 2005 C320: 2005 Mercedes-Benz C320
Specifications and EquipmentGeneral Information
Customer Reviews Be the first to Write a review
Body Types 2D Hatchback
4D Sedan
Transmissions 5-Speed Automatic
6-Speed Manual
Engines 3.2L 215 hp 6 Cyl
Trim Levels Base
Base 4WD
Sport

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2D Hatchback Sport

Search Stock

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Fuel
EPA Mileage 19/24 mpg
Fuel Type Ethanol/Gas
Fuel Capacity 16.40 Gal


Specifications
Engine 3.2L
Drive 2WD
Transmission 6-Speed Manual
Cylinders 6 Cylinders
Horsepower 215 HP
Torque 221 @3000
Overall Length 171.0"
Height 54
Width 68
Curb Weight 3385 lbs.
Cargo Capacity 38 cu. ft.
Seating Capacity 5/5
Payload Capacity N/R
Towing Capacity N/R
Not quite 4000 pounds, you were only off by a little over 15%, fuel economy only off by a little over 27%. You really need to know a little more about your car before you start spitting out statements. I also checked the specs back to 2002 with no significant change in either fuel economy or curb weight.

deltafox5674
Jul 20, 2009 at 9:07 a.m.
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If anyone "feels safe" because of security cameras, maybe you should understand why they are there. They are to protect Wal-Mart, not you. They record every square inch of their property to help defend themselves against frivolous lawsuits, false accusations, and have a hard objective record of any event that unfolds. By the time the security people saw and reacted to the event taking place in the parking lot, the perpetrators were already driving away.

thekid3477
Jul 20, 2009 at 9:03 a.m.
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or alcohol money

justsaynotomath
Jul 20, 2009 at 8:35 a.m.
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here is some schooling for you GM lovers and Mercedes haters ! the Mercedes C320 (not the car that was stolen)is the best car on the road by far, period. it is made by UNION auto workers who are treated better then Union GM auto workers by far. it has NO recalls,ever ! it gets 33 mpg and has almost 4000 lbs of solid steal not plastic like American cars. I have been driving mine for 7 years and have never had a break down. only tires, oil, and break pads. the only way to steal a Mercedes c320 is to have the key ! yes the car is very expensive but it doesn't break down and the Union workers who made it have jobs and health insurance. GM would like you to believe they are the only UNION cars on the road but that is a lie like most things they say. I see GM cars/trucks on the side of the road all the time, but i never see a Mercedes on the side of the road. if you keep eating crap and saying it taste great i guess it's not a lie if you believe it !

Opinionsforfree
Jul 20, 2009 at 7:49 a.m.
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another reason to add to the hundreds of reasons not to shop at Wal-mart.

just_hype
Jul 19, 2009 at 9:20 p.m.
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NVgrf - Especially on the East side, eh?

SarahB1
Jul 19, 2009 at 9:12 p.m.
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mom2marlal: Thank you for the explanation. This makes total sense to me and I take back my previous comments re: drugs, etc.

nukka_70
Jul 19, 2009 at 8:03 p.m.
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aside from all the confusion on how this was so understandably written.....does this sound like dejavu to anyone else???? Seems to me this same thing happened a while back and at walmart too I believe..........

mom2marlal
Jul 19, 2009 at 6:02 p.m.
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The robbers were waiting in a white SUV for the man (with the mercedes) to return to his car from inside the store. The 'victim' was not returning in another car, the robbers were in another car. When he got to his car they exchanged pleasantries and the guy was getting something out of his car when the 2 guys started beating him up. While this was happening, a 3rd person left in the white SUV.
Someone I know saw the whole thing and actually gave the police a description of the guys and the vehicle.

pubsrus
Jul 19, 2009 at 5:21 p.m.
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unidentified and faith44 said they couldn't believe the police would wonder why they targeted the mercedes. They made it sound like the mercedes is the most sought after car in the world. I was just pointing out that the mercedes has a reputation by its name and not by its quality. That the perception of a mercedes is reality and that it is just not that great of car.

janesvillean
Jul 19, 2009 at 4:52 p.m.
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pubsrus, the car is ten years old. Do you think the thieves were really checking out the initial quality rankings in the J.D. Power archives to decide what to steal?
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I could speculate that this was a theft-to-order for a chop shop to get the engine or something, but the Mercedes E-Class is supposedly one of the LEAST stolen cars. So, huh.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/S...

gonefishin
Jul 19, 2009 at 3:16 p.m.
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I was also wondering about that. I mean we all know that there is no WAY this could happen here in JVL. The city with no gang or drug problems.

NVgrf
Jul 19, 2009 at 2:38 p.m.
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Are you sure the article isn't in error? Must have been in Beloit. Couldn't have possibly been in Janesville.

RUSerious
Jul 19, 2009 at 1:56 p.m.
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nukka, what the writer apparently meant, and should have written, was "The men had been waiting in a white Chevrolet Blazer for the victim to return."
That took me a minute, too.

nukka_70
Jul 19, 2009 at 1:46 p.m.
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Im still confused........makes "NOOOOO" sense........."The men had been waiting for the victim to return in another car, a white Chevrolet Blazer, Kleisner said. Police aren’t sure why they targeted the Mercedes, he said".
Unless the victim called the robbers and told them he'd be pullin up in a white chevy trailblazer....and the robbers told the guy thats what they expected, then how in the heck does anyone know that they were waiting for the victim in the blazer???!?!?!?!?

gonefishin
Jul 19, 2009 at 1:22 p.m.
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Sannio, yes the officers for the most part a very capable. However, when they turn it over to the "detectives" the case stalls.

gonefishin
Jul 19, 2009 at 1:20 p.m.
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The patrol officers who actually are up and about would probably be better detectives. At least theyre out in public and seem to be a smarter, more capable bunch than the detectives.

gonefishin
Jul 19, 2009 at 1:18 p.m.
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lynda, how am I "way off base"? Please enlighten me as to when they solved all those robberies? Oh wait you cant, BECAUSE THEY DIDNT SOLVE THEM!!!!!!! Seems the only cases the detectives can solve are the ones where the solution is handed to them.

momof5
Jul 19, 2009 at 10:09 a.m.
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Pubsrus: your numbers have to be off! There's no way GM products can outscore a BMW, Benz or the beloved Honda and Toyota brands. (Note sarcasim....good work!!)

Is "thekid" older than 20??! Lol

bobb1951
Jul 19, 2009 at 10:07 a.m.
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alot left to the imagination with this "reporting".Drug debt,Deal gone bad,nice wheels to steal,nothing better to do???Are cameras on,or just props?

ResponsibleCitizen
Jul 19, 2009 at 9:46 a.m.
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not about the car

ResponsibleCitizen
Jul 19, 2009 at 9:45 a.m.
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it's about drugs & money

ResponsibleCitizen
Jul 19, 2009 at 9:45 a.m.
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it's about drugs & money

pubsrus
Jul 19, 2009 at 9:14 a.m.
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what is so desirable about a 1999 mercedes e320? The car is worth about $7000 tops. Once again perception becomes reality. Mercedes makes a decent car nothing that is over the top quality wise. Here are the jd power rankings (Based on a 1,000-point scale, where a high score is better)

Lexus 912
Buick 911
Cadillac 909
Jaguar 908
Lincoln 906
Mercury 905
Saturn 904
Pontiac 903
Audi 890
MINI 890
Volvo 890
Acura 889
Chevrolet 887
Infiniti 887
Porsche 887
BMW 884
Honda 883
HUMMER 882
Saab 880
GMC 879
IndustryAverage 873
Mercedes-Benz 872
Hyundai 869
Chrysler 867
Ford 866
Dodge 862
Toyota 861
Subaru 858
Jeep 851
Nissan 849
Mitsubishi 848
Kia 843
Mazda 843
LandRover 840
Suzuki 823
Volkswagen 810
Isuzu 781
For all you GM haters look at #2 and #3 and chevrolet has better quality than Mercedes. Once again percetion becomes reality.

dinty1
Jul 19, 2009 at 6:51 a.m.
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I think that maybe the men were waiting in the white Blazer. the sentence was not written properly.

janesvillean
Jul 19, 2009 at 2:18 a.m.
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Sheesh, it is only worth about 7 grand.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/1999/mercede...
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Maybe Refluculated is right and this is some kind of gang thing. Another theory could be it was seized in order to satisfy a drug debt. There certainly are more valuable vehicles about, even in the Wal-Mart lot.

Refluculated
Jul 19, 2009 at 12:56 a.m.
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GANG RETALIATION ,not drugs . If and when the public record becomes available , you can (wcca) him , and make your own case . Purely speculation on my part .

Roadmaster
Jul 18, 2009 at 11:05 p.m.
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They were waiting for the guy, because it is easier to steal a car with the keys in it.

SarahB1
Jul 18, 2009 at 10:45 p.m.
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2LevelHeaded: The question is this --- Why were they waiting for the guy? Doesn't matter what vehicle he returned in. Personally, I think it has something to do with drugs. I will probably be attacked for writing that, but that is still my gut feeling.

2LevelHeaded
Jul 18, 2009 at 10:39 p.m.
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Maybe the police made that comment because they weren't sure of the exact reason to target the Mercedes. Was it for the car, the person in it, or maybe something that could have been in it? More than likely it was because it was a Mercedes but sometimes it may have been because of another issue.

SarahB1
Jul 18, 2009 at 10:39 p.m.
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nukka_70: I agree with you ... what is this really about? Something is missing here.

nukka_70
Jul 18, 2009 at 10:37 p.m.
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Im confused!!! "The men had been waiting for the victim to return in another car, a white Chevrolet Blazer, Kleisner said. Police aren’t sure why they targeted the Mercedes, he said".
Why were they waiting for the victim to return with anohter car?!?!?!?!?!

Unidentified
Jul 18, 2009 at 10 p.m.
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faithbball44: You said it for me. I had to read it twice to be sure that is what the police really said. I just hope it was a momentary lapse of common sense.

truecitizen
Jul 18, 2009 at 9:50 p.m.
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That's strange that this is being reported as such. The initial call came in with a specific description of at least two people. Go figure! This better be because they are with holding information to assist with the investigation. If it's for P.R., then God help us all.

faithbball44
Jul 18, 2009 at 9:07 p.m.
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"Police aren’t sure why they targeted the Mercedes, he said."

lol.....hmmm...i wonder why they would steal a Mercedes?

sannio
Jul 18, 2009 at 8:59 p.m.
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I'm sure everyone agrees it's good nobody got hurt, and bullets weren't whizzing through the parking lot. I'm not sure why some people are projecting ineptitude on the part of the police. Every officer I've met appeared to know what they were doing.

lynda
Jul 18, 2009 at 8:51 p.m.
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gonefishin you are way off base as far as Janesville's dectives are concerned. I suggest you do your homework before you spout off in the future.

spikesmom
Jul 18, 2009 at 7:35 p.m.
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I think they are too busy going after all the seatbelt violators.

On another note...aren't there security cameras EVERYWHERE in that parking lot? How do they not get a good description? Those cameras suddenly don't make me feel so safe anymore.

gonefishin
Jul 18, 2009 at 7:06 p.m.
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That would be a pretty safe bet dub. Catching pot heads or those ferocious felines theyre always looking for. JPD very rarely catches robbers. Look at the robberies of area gas stations, that old man in the middle of the street right downtown in broad daylight, bank robberies. Seems as if the only criminals they are able to catch are those that are ratted out by others. Not really the entire PDs fault I guess, just the lousy detectives.

dub190
Jul 18, 2009 at 6:36 p.m.
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It takes a real idiot to steal a car from the most recorded area in Janesville. Then they don't even know how to drive it. What do you wanna bet the cops won't even catch them?
They are all too busy catching all those horrible pot dealers.

chainsawchuckie
Jul 18, 2009 at 6:25 p.m.
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nice real nice....at least they could have not smashed it up......sheeeesh

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