No its the same inhaler i used to get at Walgreen's ,but the inhalers have cfcs in them and the brand is GlaxoSmithKline ,the new inhalers are no good and i have to pay 25.00 each and 95.00 a month for my insurance . i was lucky to work for a co that gives me my meds for small copay. my whole world changed on 10/3/2001 have you ever tryed Medco you get 90 day supply and a lot cheaper than Walgreen's or Wal-Mart .
sorry about the punctuation and God bless the spell check.

No harm done~but aren't you nervous about the ingredients in those medications that aren't regulated by the FDA?

nurse4u yes i did, sorry about that . sometimes i jump the gun

latinmami2-I agree that Omega 3 could help with focus. It has been proven in numerous studies. It is found in high amounts in fish. There is also a theory that is why Japanese children excel in school-their diet is rich in fish therefore Omega 3.

You missed my point. I don't believe in medicating children for ADHD/ADD.

nurse4u have you ever considered buying the drugs from overseas no script needed , i buy one of mine there.

IF this belief is true about these meds have an affect that slow down the neurons, then why not pump the kid full of caffeine? Same theory..

And yes, my son has anger outbursts. BUT he also has a sister who he is VERY close to & has a terminal illness with mulitple surgeries and life threatening illnesses AND a biological father who is not around much.

I have angry outbursts too when I think of all my daughter has gone through and so does she. You don't think that her brother may be reacting to THAT?? But hey let's pump him full of zombie meds... STRONGER than cocaine.

This is from McNeil Pharmaceuticals..

"What science has taught us about ADHD
Everyday, millions of brain cells (or neurons) communicate with one another using chemicals (called neurotransmitters). However, messages relating to emotion, behavior, thinking and attention are generated by two specific neurotransmitters, norepinephrine and dopamine. The belief is that these specific neurotransmitters may affect ADHD. Whether there's an imbalance or an impairment of these neurotransmitters is unclear, and continues to be the subject of medical research.

ADHD medications are thought to influence the balance of norepinephrine and dopamine in the brain, which help to improve the chemical communication between all neurotransmitters. And while it's still not known precisely how ADHD medications correct the balance, it's not unusual for researchers to continually examine this until it is fully understood."

Notice the words, "belief","may affect" "Whether" "unclear" "thought to influence" "still not known."

I do KNOW that in cases of epilepsy, an EEG can show a misfiring or inactivity of neurons. Why then can this "diagnosis" not have any diagnostic tests that could confirm ADHD??? I REFUSE to mess with my child's brain with chemicals that are stronger than a controlled illegal substance-cocaine. But it's ok to give it to children???

my chiropractor told me that there was a study done on kids who had omega 3 in their diet and kids who did not, the kids who did paid attention more in school. that is something we are trying in our household right now to see if it will make a difference

Along with the fact that other countries don't diagnose ADHD, etc, is the fact that most other countries don't use all the food preservatives that we do. My daughter reacts severly to BHA, BHT, TBHQ, all preservatives that are not used in other countries. When we keep her on a diet that is free of this artificial junk, she is an angel. When she eats something with a preservative, she gets totally wild and angry, and cannot control herself. She happily avoids preservatives, reads labels herself to check for them, because she doesn't like how they affect her. I wonder how many other kids could have this same problem, and don't know it?

The most compelling argument about the video in this link (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/10... ) is that it has been the standard, drug-free treatment for the last 10 generations. If it has worked for so many of our greatest Americans patriots, then why can't it work now?

Holy @#&^ !

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/10...

my son is really hyperactive, since i was pregnant with him he never ever stopped moving, i am pretty sure if i took him to a doctor they would say he has adhd, but i choose to instead of doing that and placing him on some medication he does not really need to keep active with him, he is three and always playing sports and busy outside which does help him get out his energy. i help him stay focused on things and keep him busy with activities which for me i feel is better for my child, i don't think that a parent is wrong if they choose to go the med way that is up to them as to what they feel is best for their child

Want to know how many children are treated outside of the USA for ADHD????
Australia and the UK disagree that ADHD even exists...

Do you think the drug companies may have some influence? After all, my daughter's Sildenafil (Viagra for Pulmonary Hypertension) went from $40 a month in August 2005 to $600 a month NOW. Same ingredients...

"The Controversy Behind ADHD
More than seven million American children are diagnosed with, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), for which there is no scientific basis.
Methylphenidate is very similar to both amphetamines and cocaine, a drug used to treat attention deficit-disorder, and (ADHD) attention deficit hyper-activity, in mostly children. Children are being diagnosed with a list of behaviors that In 1987 was literally voted into existence by the American Psychiatric Association and inserted in the DSM-IV, Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Within one year 500,000 children in the U.S. were diagnosed with the disorder.

In 1998 at the National Institutes of Health Consensus Conference on ADHD The NIH issued the following statement regarding ADHD: "We do not have an independent, valid test for ADHD, and there is no data to indicate that ADHD is due to a brain malfunction" About seven million children in this country are treated with addictive, dangerous, and potentially deadly drugs without demonstration of abnormality of disease.

School administrators are coercing parents into drugging their children for disorders that have no scientific and organic validity of disease.

If they don't drug as requested by school officials, Child Protective services may and have been called, therefore involving still another government agency in fraudulent cases.

There are absolutely no positive long-term effects of these medications on learning, academic standards, performances, and social behavior. Between the years of 1990-2000 over 569 children were hospitalized, 38 of them were life threatening hospitalizations, and 186 died from Ritalin.

These drugs make children more manageable, not necessarily better. ADHD is a phenomenon, not a brain disease. Because the diagnosis of ADHD is fraudulent, it doesn't matter whether a drug works. Children are being forced to take a drug that is stronger than cocaine for a disease that is yet to be proven."

Beverly Eakman Author,
President National Education Consortium 2001
National Alliance Against Medication of Children for ADHD

I have my opinions and you have yours. I just think that in the 1800's when kids HAD to help with survival and actually had chores instead of TVs and video games that they were too damn tired to do much back talking or get in trouble. My son has his moments, but boys will be boys. Sports, music lessons, etc find an outlet. The meds you tried earlier MAY have had an affect on that child's brain which manifests years later which could cause anger issues.

I just do NOT believe in medicating children's brains when there is so much controversy out there. It is different with epilepsy. That is an actual medical condition with observable misfiring of neurons in the brain with an EEG. Where is the diagnostic tests such as brain scans and EEGs that show there is a problem?

I have seen a documentry on a child who was diagnosed as ADHD. He took his SATs I think it was his Junior year (on his meds) and the next year he stayed off his meds the whole year and took the test (off the meds) without his mother's knowledge and scored almost exactly the same. His grades were very similar also. His mother never even knew he was off his Adderal. He saved the pills to show his mother. Makes one wonder, doesn't it?


I will see if I can find some info to that link...

acs - I know all too well how difficult it can be when they stop taking their medication. Once my son caught on that I count the pills so he can't just lie about taking them he started stashing them. He's been living solely with his dad for a little over 6 months now. I found his stash after he left. I can't imagine what its like inside his mind and body, but its his refusal to do the thing(s) that will help him maintain that gets so tough. All we can do is keep on trying.

I think Beloit SWAT was also requested. So where was Rock County SWAT? Were they all at a weekend SWAT retreat? Inquiring minds want to know.

Thanks e_tailgrl. We are in another bad spell. She quit taking her meds again, so yea, life is just fabulous. I hate dealing with this, she feels bad....this is horrible. Glad to see others are knowledgable on the kids and teens with bipolar. Good luck to you and your son. Luck is about all we can hope for on this old road!

nogo Did you think that maybe the child came home intoxicated? It didn't say the fam was partying together before the incident. Why is everyone judgemental when there are barely any facts given. The press never can report all of the facts and circumstances.

He’s 17, intoxicated, at home, with his parents. Am I the only one how thinks there is something wrong with this picture.

Nurse4U- Bipolar is not a widely accepted diagnosis in children and adolescents but is certainly a very real problem. Until more providers accept this as a diagnosis in youth, children will continue to be misdiagnosed and treated with the wrong medications and therapy. This is a disservice to the child and their families as the formative years of development are often wasted by the time they are properly diagnosed. By that time bad patterns of behavior have already been established and gone uncontrolled.

My son also was diagnosed at age 2; however, he was misdiagnosed with ADHD. What happens is the therapist sees the child on an "up" day, treats for ADHD, and then the "down" or "manic depressive" side of the bipolar is never treated.

If caught when the child is young it is easier to curb the behaviors that come with bipolar disorder. Small children are easier to control. My 15-year-old weights 220 pounds. I cannot exactly physically put him in his room.

Good luck to this family.

i am a parent of two kids and me and my husband have always said that we will never put our kids on medication for mental problems and thank god so far so good kids are happy and healthy, but to be honest i don't know what choices i would make if it really came down to my child having a sever emotional and mental issues what do you do you put them on the meds and pray it helps or do you pray that they will stop being self destructive. i hope this family can figure out what is best for them and things get worked out

sorry i missed that part, and why do you care kid how i post my post whether i copy what i am responding to or not?

acs - I agree with you completely! My son shows marked improvement when he stays on his mood stabilizing medication. Early onset bipolar is a very real and trying disorder. Good luck to you and your daughter!

for some reason you need to copy everyones post when replying to it. copy the article and read that. 'the boy was intoxicated and had been arguing with his parents'

latinmami2 - if you read the article, it says that he was intoxicated. This usually means that alcohol was involved.

maybe this has nothing to do with adhd or any other webmd diagnosis ya wanna throw at this kid. the drug in this story is alcohol...a WELL KNOWN depressant...
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where did you get that he was drinking?

The school my son was at recommended medication for my son because he was having focus issues at school. More specifically he had a teach who was pushing me to do it. Turns out she just could not handle the pressure of having kids who have a lot of energy and wanted a classroom of drones. Its sad that teachers are like that these days. Not enough teachers will adapt their teaching to the individual needs to children, we all learn differently.

no one here has even mentioned the kid was ON a drug. maybe this has nothing to do with adhd or any other webmd diagnosis ya wanna throw at this kid. the drug in this story is alcohol...a WELL KNOWN depressant...which we also know happens to be legal at 21 and readily available(obviously) to most 17 year olds. if this kid was on the edge, with or without a doctors drug, this depressant may have pushed him over the edge...or this may have nothing more to do with anything other than this kid being drunk

nurs4u - I agree with you that many children are misdiagnosed. My son is also in the 90th percentile for testing. He was just recently tested again and as an 8th grader he scored at a 12th grade level in 3 of the 4 test groups. I understand that a lot of these kids are exceptionally intelligent and bored in school. My point is simply that if they choose not to follow the laws once they hit this age what the heck can you do as a parent? This really has nothing to do with diagnosis or medication as far as I'm concerned (I rambled on a bit in my previous post, sry) but more what are a parents rights when your child is acting out like this young man? You certainly can't give them a good swift kick like when I was a kid. How do you teach them responsibility for their actions when we as parents have no recourse. I don't want to call the police every time my son throws a punch at me or someone else. I want to put him in check. Oh, but you can't do that.
I'm willing to bet I'm not the only parent these days that feels this way! IMO

Not all kids are the same, and unfortunately some are actually bipolar. Just because with your child it was suggested to be ADHD, and you didnt follow up with it and he turned out ok, doesnt mean nothing. That is 1 kid. Every kid and every situation is different. What worked for your child, might not work for the next. And most parents....try everything before throwing meds down thier kids throats! Not all,i know that....but most.
My kid is infact bipolar. Diagnosed at 10, after her dad blew his brains out. He obviously was too, undiagnosed or treated. 3 yrs of lots of ups and downs until i got a diagnosis. Look up childhood bipolar, its different then regular bipolar. My child went from failing school, put on meds and became an honor student. Guess the meds worked for her didnt they. Does it appear she is "drugged" if she excelled?
I agree there are people pushing meds on kids that dont need it, but some actually do improve with meds.
That bipolar with kids and teens, what a terrible illness.

I am not a doctor but do you REALLY believe your son was Bipolar at 2 years old?

IMO-I have a very difficult time with accepting medicating children with medications that affect the brain. Young children are so impressionable and their brains are just developing.

Boys learn differently from girls. Most school systems are geard to teaching in a manner that is consistent with how girls process information. Do you know how many children are labeled as ADHD or ADD or bipolar? I was shocked to learn just how many kids are prescribed methamphetamines for hyperactivity. In addition, America is one of the few countries that accept ADHD as a medical diagnosis.

BiPolar typically manifests itself when an individual is a young adult.

With all that you have been through and all the meds your child as tried, have they been effective?

I had a teacher when my son was in first grade who said my son was ADHD. He had done just fine at Montessori school. I said I did not know her degree was in medicine. I did the whole take my son to the doctor and they saw him for fifteen minutes and wanted to give him these dangerous medications that might work with a diagnosis that was not guaranteed, possible ADHD possible Bipolar. ETC etc. NOT for me, not for my son. ESPECIALLY after I did hours of research.

I found a doctor in Fort Atkinson who tested my son for hours..she learned at 6 years old his IQ was 163. She stated if he could sit and read a book for hours he was NOT ADHD, He is now in the sixth grade. He tests above high school on his state tests in the 90-99%. Who knows what side effects and health problems he could have had..

This is really a tragedy! I think it's so sad when those who have no idea what's going on in this family think that they can stand on the outside and have it figured out. I'm the mother of a 14-1/2 year old boy who has had issues since he turned 2 years old. It took me until 2 years ago (9 months inpatient) to get him properly diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder. But until then I have to admit the damage was done. He's been arrested multiple times (I'm financially responsible for his stay in juvie), he's been violent towards me, his peers and his teachers since kindergarten (suspended 8 times in 1st grade). I know I'm not a perfect mother, but I busted my a$$ for all these years, fighting the system and losing friends because of the trickle-down affect his actions had. To this day he will hide his medication and give the world the proverbial finger. I did all that I can do to help him! I can say with all certainty that I gave him (with the help of all of his therapists) the tools he needs to be successful. He chooses not to use them. So, I say to all of you that are so judgemental on this family and all others with issues as such that sometimes there is only so much you can do. Children sometimes get to a point where they just do what they want and don't care what the outcome is.
One thing I've learned is to ease up on situations like these if you don't know the intimate details. I just hope this boy "gets it" and soon!

Optimsim, why not practice what you preach - from your post of March 3rd, 2009:

SA...I respect your opinions, but I resent the fact that you are trying to bully me into thinking in your terms. It is our right to have our own opinions, but I don't believe it is my place or yours to implant "thought to be's" in others' minds. JMO

TIP NO. 1: Please lock up the gun(s), preferably at somebody else's home.

Often...and your point is? Why does it matter? ReallY? I really don't think your "wondering" has anything to do with anything! Way too many chiefs in this county!

Too bad for this boy. Hopefully he gets things straightened out before he really regrets his actions. This family needs to be proactive from now on. I suspect there has been some enabling going on. Tough love needs to take effect. Good luck to you all.

HMMMM.. Rock County call (Janesville township , not the city)and the Janesville swat team responded........where was the County's team????

gmaof3 - i am sure these parents are in need of some help too, i am sure there had to be other things that have gone on before this. parenting these days is very hard.

plurky do you honestly think that your blah blah blah comments make them feel any better, i am sure they can go to bed sleeping better knowing that you have posted that. good job give your self a pat on the back because you are real high class person

phlurky- see my post directly below yours.

thank you trojan, i can not believe someone would even bother to post something like that for no reason other than to be hateful

leostime36- There is nothing wrong with someone being sympathetic, even if they're being sympathetic to *every* "sad" blog that the gazette writes. It's called having a big heart, and there's NOTHING wrong with that. More people should have hearts like these two.
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If you're getting sick of their "sappy" comments, why don't you skip the text that's on the page when their name is next to it?

He is obviously screwed up! I hate this age. There is nothing you can say, if you're the parent - to a kid with "problems" to diffuse ANY situation.

I hope he gets help, but these parents need some help too. I'm sure they are at their "wit's end"!!!

I hope you two can move on to a blog and give more enlightening comments...god, how lame! You two need to get a life and stop giving little pithy comments every time the gazette has an atricle that is a downer. wow.
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you are rude and inconsiderate, people have posted stating they the family the best and you have a problem with that. grow up. don't read the posts if you do not like them

I hope you two can move on to a blog and give more enlightening comments...god, how lame! You two need to get a life and stop giving little pithy comments every time the gazette has an atricle that is a downer. wow.

I hope they can get him help with his problems. I hope the courts don't just warehouse him in jail or prison. My heart and prayers to his parents and other family members.

how horrible for this family, i am glad that this teen did not get hurt and did not hurt anyone else.