Bring the dogs in for students and teacher's inspections alike. Schools are for education and socialization, NOT DRUGS.

sniff my dirty socks!!!

I'm sure the people here stating they don't want the dogs at the schools sniffing the cars and lockers are also the people who wouldn't want the dogs sniffing their front door to their house or the car in their driveway.

Search all cars at parent-teacher conferences and all the cars at football games that are on school grounds. We could really keep the city clean of drugs that way! LOL

ladulce......I totally disagree with you and don't have a problem with this at all. The education of the children is not being compromised in any way by walking a dog through the hallways of a public building. They are not throwing kids up against the lockers one after another and searching them......

No. Simply no. Our school has the obligation of EDUCATING our students. EDUCATING them. NOT searching them or harassing them. There is no way that this is Constitutional. The school needs to teach reading, writing, and math. They are NOT to police our children or try and teach morals. It is our job as parents to teach morals, the police job to enforce the laws, and, the schools job to just TEACH! If they have a concern about a SPECIFIC student, that child's mother and the police should be called. Ridiculous. Could you just TEACH already?

biggirl: Some kids are criminals, guess what .... some have even killed so maybe you should take your blinders off. I have a son in school but this doesn't affend me, I hope it keeps him even just a bit safer.

A lot of people won't touch on this issue because it involves minors and drugs. I'll tell you what, though. People like Schulte have a police mind-set, and should not be on the school board. She doesn't care about the learning environment. She cares about disciplining any kid who even steps a little bit out of line. The "safety" of other students is not her top priority. She just likes to see people fry.
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Kids, you're dumb if you bring drugs to school anyways. The administration = cops. Some teachers, required by law and not even always by their own beliefs, = cops. Students who deserve stitches = cops. There are even actual police in the schools. So, don't bring that crap to the enemy's playground!
The funny thing is.... most students already know and understand this. Why do you think they get so few arrests? They bring the dogs in on random days, it's not as if the kids have time to prepare. The school board is trying to make something out of nothing. (See: People like Schulte don't care about the learning environment.)
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Hey, the kids who want to get stoned during the school day will find a way. Just park in the street instead of the school parking lot. Just go home or to a buddy's house. There are a ton of options out there. Most kids don't get high during the school day, though. So, don't punish the masses because of the choices of the few. Who cares if a student goes to school stoned, anyways? A stoner isn't full of energy and distracts the class. All they're doing is possibly hurting themselves.

if this is ok why dont we search kids' trunks for beer at a friday nite football game?? which drug kills most of our teens??

If you say no to a search of your vehicle they can and will arrest you, then search your car because once you have been arrested you have no rights in their opinion. Seen it done many times and no it is not right but they do it;.........again and again with them 2 words "probable cause"
This can be true, but only if there is a "hit" on your car. Also, it's more like a temporary arrest, because if they have probable cause, arrest you, and find nothing, then they technically had no right to arrest you in the first place, and you are released. It's essentially a catch-22. Your car gets a hit and you refuse to allow a search, you are arrested under suspicion, but if they don't find anything-they don't have anything to charge you with(you can't be charged with probable cause lol) thenyou are let go without charge. Basically the dog allows a temporary violation of your constitutional rights-provided they don't actually find anything.
Nice, huh?

"I thought I heard Lori S say on the radio 18 things found and no arrests! WHY no arrests?"
For one, maybe they weren't found, they were "hits" with no evidence. Or maybe, they found cigs, not drugs. Or a joint, not a bag of meth. So rather than put their college career in jeapordy, they opted to give them the choice for counseling and not make it public for sake of the pettyness of the crime?

Let's use an animal to arbitrarily rob youth of their rights. They're having little to no success without the dogs-how would they? So in an effort to keep funding for programs and things, I'm sure, they resort to using dogs more and more. It's the idea of if you don't find gold, just keep digging, and digging, and digging....eventually, there has to be gold to find SOMWEHERE? Right? If you don't find what you're looking for, you just must not be looking hard enough.

Why don't we start walking drug dogs down every street and check every car parked on the road too, since that's public property? Seems like the next logical step after gaining this foothold.
How about we spend money of officers coming to school and talking with kids more, and developing more of a report with them when they're younger? Seem's like a better idea to get them when they're young with kindness, rather than when they get older with lockdowns and prosecution. Isn't the agrument overwhelmingly to be get to them while they're young? That's what I'd vote for,personally.

carlitosway...You are wrong..if the dog gets a hit on the car that gives them the right to request a voluntary search. If the person having possession refuses then the "hit" gives them probable cause to seize the car and request a search warrant. If the warrant is refused then game over. If the warrant is allowed then they search and arrest if an illegal drug is found.

As far as the constitutionality of sniffing a car..The first question the courts will determine is "Their expectation to privacy". I would argue that no one would have any expectation to privacy outside your car in a public parking lot.

If you say no to a search of your vehicle they can and will arrest you, then search your car because once you have been arrested you have no rights in their opinion. Seen it done many times and no it is not right but they do it;.........again and again with them 2 words "probable cause"

I have a little disapprovable on the subject due to constitutional rights OOPS I forgot we don't have them anymore. They are going to do anything they want WHY? because they have a badge and they think they can. Probable cause is what they use and IMO that is the lamest excuse to violate ones constitutional rights. I agree with the locker sniffing as to the schools needing to be drug free but to just walk along and sniff a persons vehicle whether in a parking lot or on a street is not right. FYI I don't use nor condone the use of drugs, But I do believe we are entitled to our constitutional rights and they need to be put back in to the justice system and taught to all police departments as to what they really are not what they think they are when it comes to changing them to fit the situation. Dictatorship to the fullest JMO

Superintendent Karen Schulte said police do the searches for free, but they take up administrators’ time, and it’s disruptive to students who are called out of class.

Free??????? The police get paid by tax payers and taxes paid for the dog. Therefore it isn't free. Nothing in this world is FREE!

Disrupting classes is and always have been counter productive.

The dogs are just another tool in the prevention toolbox.....

Stop treating our children like criminals.

sniffing people no, cars and lockers? go for it.

"Some board members seemed to suggest having dogs sniff students or staff, but doing so without probable cause for a search is constitutionally questionable."

So is searching their cars without consent. Its unconstitutional.

"Stottler asked whether the practice of calling students out of classes to open their cars for officers was a good one."

Without a search warrent? Hope you get sued.

I say keep the dogs sniffing, kids will be too scared to bring drugs to the schools for either use or to sell. Drugs are the last thing we need in our schools,it's all we need is kids selling drugs in the school only to have a bad drug deal go down and have a fight break out or even worse. The way I see it is if someone says they should keep the dogs out is bcuz they put drugs first, give me one plus of having drugs in our schools.

the dogs need to earn their keep and protect us from those drug dealing teens!

""Board member Kevin Murray asked what the downside of dog searches is.""

The downside Kev, living in a "Police State" isn't conducive to a good learning environment.

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Lori Stottler - NO VOTE
Greg Ardrey - NO VOTE
Bill Sodemann - NO VOTE
DuWayne Severson - NO VOTE
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