I'm sure if it was a "muscle car" the guy has it in storage by now...good luck finding it!

916WI: Those are good points especially about the insurance. However doing the right thing is not always the easy thing to do. And an adult needs to do the right thing The problem with our society is too many people not taking responsibility for their actions all the way around, it is the normal now a days, and that is pathetic.

You are correct that there might not be damage to the metal panels; however I am willing to bet that there will be some paint or scratches that are on the back of the car most likely at motorcycle height. If this person cares about their car they will notice a bunch of scratches on the back that are new. I am not saying it will happen however I am saying that I am willing to be that this car has some visible damage on the back of it either denting or paint damage or both. Assuming this person did not notice being hit (which neither of us think is true) they might or might not notice the damage on the back, but I bet that someone who actually pays attention to their car would notice if it was there. That is all I’m saying, there is not necessarily extensive damage however there is some sort of damage. A car from that time is not just driving around without the owner taking some sort of care of it, it is maintained and repaired now how closely the owner takes care of the body and paint I don’t know but if he does then he would notice new damage on it. Will he know that the police are looking for him I don’t know, no one dose, will he see the damage, again we don’t know what type of a person this is. But if he does read this article or knows they are looking for him he should do the right thing and explain his actions and take responsibility. Will it happen? No, but should it, yes. I never said that he was reading this article however if he was then he would have the opportunity to read my comment saying to do the right thing, if he didn’t read the article then he never would read my comment to do the right thing and it would not matter that I said that.

The driver of the "muscle" car likely had a drink or two or was driving on a suspended license. After leaving the scene, I don't blame him at all for not contacting police. He is the one that suffered here when this idiot hit his car. It would be completely counterproductive to go to the police and have to suffer another $500 loss, not to mention possible insurance rate hikes. Chances are, with as irresponsible as this motorcyclist is, he wasn't carrying insurance anyway......

mespl~~IF he had no clue he was hit, why would he call the police? You're assuming there was extensive damage done to his vehilce. If he was driving a car from the 70's those things are like tanks!! I personally do not believe that he didn't know. But, there is always that possibility. Believe it or not, not everyone reads the Gazette, so where would he have gotten the info that this had happened?

That was in response to my comment saying that he should call the police now and accept responsibility for leaving the scene. Read the post before that.

No one said that the driver called!

Really hannah you think that they contacted news organizations because they don’t know how to use their caller id?

except they have witnesses who most likely could identify the car, plus the paint and dammage would have to match the color of the motorcycle.

Then you would have everyone with a car like that with rear end damage calling trying to get the info to get it fixed.

wheres barney fife when you need him...

As I stated so that he can get the insurance information and get his car fixed on the other persons dime because getting it fixed properly is most likely more expensive than the 500 for the ticket. Well and the most important reason of being a man and taking responsibility for your actions. That is an amazing concept.

(BTW, I don't believe he didn't know he was hit.)

If he didn't know he was hit, why would he call the police?

If it truly was the case that he did not feel it as some of you are arguing, then will the owner of the black car please man up and do the right thing and contact the police. I can almost guarantee that the 500 for the ticket is less than a good body shop would charge him to repaint whatever got scratched and or dented during the collision. If he contacts the police then he can get the insurance information for the motorcyclist. I am going to have to say I doubt that it will happen.

I don't think this person is 'innocent' of leaving the scene. I do think who they are is irrelevant at this point and for the police to make such a big deal to find them is ridiculous and a waste of money. The accident was the fault of the rider and finding this other driver isn't going to make much of a difference.

attn; twiggy,you must be new here,because ive never seen your name before,what im about to post,im going to take alot of heat for but i dont care,the only compassion that ive seen lately for people drinking and driving,are bar owners, who drink to much and get into accidents,then they talk about them like their saints who made a bad choice,i dont know any of these people,but ill tell you something twiggy im very thankful the ones who survived,are going to be ok,others werent so lucky,people should think very seriously before they drink and drive.i want everyone to understand,by writing this post,that im not condemning anyone or their families,but you should not condemn one drunk driver and feel sorry for another,because one isnt any better than the other,drunk driving is wrong and people get hurt,and families suffer,so dont drink and drive and no one has to worry about getting their feelings hurt on these posts.

I also have a very hard time believing that the driver of the car left the scene for no reason. I stated why I believe he felt being hit. So the question in my mind turns to why leave, everyone knows it is a crime to leave the scene of an accident. And if I just got hit for no reason and I did nothing wrong I sure am going to get the other persons insurance information so that my car can be fixed. What was so important that he had to leave? It just doesn’t look as innocent as some of you are trying to make it out to be.

if the car was rolling then yes he may never have felt it. If he has his bass turned up then he may not have felt it. I have a 4 door 2006 car and I had an accident/ fender bender with it a short while ago and If I had not seen it happen I may have thought I just hit a pot hole. It was not felt that much.

Beyond the not to leave the scene any other lessons depend on his intentions which we will not know. I know that plenty of people will brake check someone who is tailgating them, if that was the case there is another lesson to learn. But only one person out there knows if that was the case. Either way we agree that there is at least one lesson to learn.

Yes, he shouldn't have fled the scene. Otherwise, what lesson does he need to learn? Not to get rear ended?

Hope the driver of the black car learns his lesson also.

I can feel when someone hits the side of my suburban with their hand. How can you not feel a motorcycle hitting the back of your car hard enough to cause serious injury? A muscle car is far lighter than the dump truck example given below. Either he left the scene on purpose or he is too incompetent to be driving in the first place. You decide. And what we do know is that no matter what was the case when he hit the brakes once he left the scene he broke the law and should get a ticket. Man up and take responsibility for your actions; that is all I’m saying. Yes the motorcyclist should do the same and I think at this point he is going to have to. But there is no way that I personally am buying that he didn’t know that he was hit.

***fleed~~I meant fled

You make an assumption on why the driver fleed~~we have no idea. The rider was following too close~~that much we DO know for a fact. That coupled with the fact he had a couple of drinks and that cut into his reaction time are obvious. If he had allowed enough room and braked when the driver in front of him did~~none of this would be an issue. Again, we have no idea why the driver braked and why he fled the scene~~so let's deal in what we do know.

If you intentionally brake for no other reason than to piss off the person behind you then you can also be sited when the person behind you hits you. Yes they can be sighted for following too closely. However you can also be sited. What you think that an action like that is not road rage? If he did nothing wrong why flee the scene? Why not stay and tell the cop he brake checked the motorcycle behind him? Because he knew he was in the wrong also.

Even if the car in front slammed on its brakes intentionally, if you rear end someone, you're going to get cited for following too close.

Ahhh, slamming on of the brakes I'm sure was intentional unless the driver has some sort of fits where his foot accidently hits the brake pedal. The real question would be why~~to avoid hitting someone, someone in front of him did the same, a dog in the road, etc. Intentional braking does not equal intent to hurt the rider behind him. And if I'm not mistaken that is why you are supposed to leave space between you and the car in front of you. I feel sorry the rider got hurt, but from all accounts~~even the added info from Twiggy~~the rider is at fault. Following too close, drinking, no helmet, etc.

Amen to every word you said Twiggy.

If the car slammed on the brakes, then yes, thats a different story...

Twiggy: Thank you for the information that was not included in the story about how the driver intentionally slammed on his brakes. That is important to know and should have been included in the story. I must point out however that the driver of the motorcycle was obviously not taking seriously what kind of a risk driving a motorcycle is to begin with. Driving a motorcycle is a risky activity and should be done with as much protection as possible. That means wear a helmet especially if you only have your temps and are required to. That also means that if you have been drinking be smart and stay off of your motorcycle, trying to balance on two wheels while intoxicated is really not a good idea. All of that being said if in fact the driver of the black car did in fact intentionally slam on his brakes knowing the motorcycle was there that is unacceptable as far as I am concerned and that person has serious issues if they feel the need to do that to a person who is on a motorcycle and as such has less protected than themselves.

Intoxicated at 4:28pm riding a motorcycle with a learner's permit without a helmet on?

Yeah. Stupid.

It's still understandable that the police would want to talk to the driver of the vehicle that the motorcyclist hit.

Twiggy, "yet you all prattle on about how he must be this, or they must be that".
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You must be new around here. That's all that's EVER posted in these blogs (with a few exceptions). Kinda like reading the National Inquirer. It's entertaining and you have to take it with a grain of salt.
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Glad to hear the rider is going to be ok and will hopefully learn a lesson.

Twiggy... patience sweetie... there really isn't much to go on in this article. People speculate and w/o a lot of knowledge provide... what are people to think. It is a bit weird that there was nothing until this article expecially considering the motorcycle driver was hurt so terribly. Thank you for the information that you provided as it makes me feel a little better about the money that I'm paying to the JPD. Maybe there will be a news article that will provide a little more too???

To all of you:
1) Being legally intoxicated does not make a person a DRUNK.
2) The motorcycle rider sustained serious head injuries which landed him in Intensive Care for a few days. He was nearly killed. He knows just how lucky he is to be alive, and how stupid he was to not be wearing a helmet.
For "Pete":
There is a difference between not knowing you had a fender bender with another car, and not knowing you had a motorcycle and rider smack into your ass-end. There tends to be screeching metal, breaking glass, revving engines, and occasionally a body flying past your fender... not just a little love tap.
To "Napalm":
Kinda hard to "flip out" when you are unconcious with your skull cracked open and blood pouring from your ears.
And to "Truth 1":
If it was your son or brother who was injured, I'm sure your rhetoric would have a different tune. As for the other driver doing nothing wrong ... he deliberately slammed on his brakes (witness accounts). What was he hoping to accomplish? That the bike would miracle itself up and over him? Perhaps his intent was not malicious, and he simply wanted to "wake up" or even "scare" the rider. Regardless, he was a contributing factor to an accident with injuries, and he fled.
To all of you:
What ever happened to compassion in this country? Think about it. You were not there. You don't know the participants. Someone was injured to the point of nearly losing his life, yet you all prattle on about how he must be this, or they must be that, and you think it is funny. Every last one of you disgust me.

drunk+no helmet+motorcycle= STUPID. Count your blessings buddy.

hmmmmm......guy on motorcycle tailgating, guy in car taps/slamms brakes....you know the rest. Sorry the guy on the bike got hurt, glad he is ok. Sounds to me like both are at fault.

I'm wondering, why, if JPD is looking for this car, why is it just now in the Gazette? I read this Sunday on WMTV's web site! Been curious ever since.

prevention, if he would had stayed he/she wouldnt be in trouble unless they were drinking or didnt have a license. Driver of the car took off which is "leaving the scene of an accident" which is why they are looking.

prevention- I think thats what we're all trying to figure out.

And why is this car being looked for?

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I see or read about reckless drivers a split-second from killing someone on almost a daily basis and they're worrying about someone that didn't do ANYTHING?...what a JOKE!!

Not worth wasting police time on..the bike rider was drunk and didn't hurt anyone but himself...nothing to worry about at all, just forget it.

$500 fine, or busted for DUI. That's a no-brainer.