Janesville City Council nixes most of proposed sidewalks

By MARCIA NELESEN ( Contact )   Tuesday, April 13, 2010
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— Janesville City Council member George Brunner said Monday the council should consider an ordinance allowing residents who have sidewalks to take them out.

He said it’s only fair since some residents are required to have sidewalks while other aren’t.

Brunner made the comment after the majority of council members voted against most of a proposed 2010 sidewalk program that would have built about 1½ miles.

Despite the vote, all council members insisted they favor sidewalks.

Those who voted against all the proposed sidewalks Monday were Bill Truman, Kathy Voskuil and Frank Perotto. Voting most consistently for sidewalks were Brunner and Russ Steeber. Tom McDonald’s and Yuri Rashkin’s voting was mixed.

Most of the sidewalk requested this year was sought by residents involved in Janesville’s Safe Routes to School plan. Ironically, the only stretches approved were along Rotamer Road, which were requested by the Milton School District.

The council has wrestled with sidewalks for years because some residents are required to have them and some aren’t.

In 2008, the council approved a seven-year plan that would build nine miles of sidewalk—sidewalk that has been on the city’s comprehensive plan for years. The current council delayed implementing that plan, citing the economy.

The residents who packed council chambers Monday said they couldn’t afford them; that sidewalks are ugly and that they would require removing mature trees. They said children don’t walk down their streets. One woman said she never gets any trick-or-treaters, and others said the city promised them they’d never have sidewalks.

People who live on Waveland Road said Parker High School students already have sex on their lawns, deal drugs on their property and break into their garages. They said sidewalks would make those problems worse.

Three council members—Truman, Voskuil and Perrotto—voted consistently against the sidewalks.

“If we let some people go for economic reasons, why are we forcing other individuals tonight?” Truman said.

Said Perrotto: “Personally, I believe that the only satisfactory way of dealing with sidewalks is to make sure both sides of the street have sidewalks. Period.” Still, he voted against all sidewalks proposed Monday because he said he didn’t know which had merit and which didn’t.

Voskuil said she was concerned about the process that selected the streets on the program.

Steeber said it appears the current council is losing the will to implement the program approved by a past council.

“It will continue to be an issue every year for future councils until we take action and fill in the gaps.”

Brunner agreed.

“We have to decide, ‘Are we going to support what we approved in a pedestrian transportation plan, or are we going to be back to being wishy-washy?’”

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amwalker
Aug 22, 2010 at 4:29 p.m.
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I live on a street 1 block long, off the beaten path, no schools close by. Twenty years ago, when I built my home, I was forced to put in sidewalk. It's on my side of the street only. I'm STILL trying to figure this one out.

ManOnTheStreet
Aug 21, 2010 at 9:40 p.m.
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Put a sidewalk not "but a sidewalk" Ok saw that too

ManOnTheStreet
Aug 21, 2010 at 9:36 p.m.
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George Brunner "Now theres a guy I could vote for"
How long are you going to let these guys but a sidewalk down the backside of your property and tell you that’s its raining? With GM gone, now is not the time to spend the people’s hard earned money on silly sidewalk scams. Oh but we get matching funds. Ha, It is still $150 a foot to the property owner and where do you think Federal money comes from anyway, “The tooth fairy? “

HoopsFan
Apr 15, 2010 at 2:47 p.m.
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Strange comments here. Maybe that lady would get trick-or-treaters if there were actually sidewalks? This is a tough cost vs. benefit debate quite honestly.

justsome1here
Apr 14, 2010 at 6:36 p.m.
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Extremely disappointing. Hopefully the next city council will stop the insanity and REQUIRE every street in the city to have sidewalks. Janesville, the city of sidewalks that go nowhere.

luvujvl
Apr 14, 2010 at 4:29 p.m.
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Also - what? - sex in the yards on Waveland Road? Seems pretty far fetched! Drug deals? Sure. Those are everywhere. But what is the connection of either one to sidewalks? I don't get it.

luvujvl
Apr 14, 2010 at 4:26 p.m.
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I don't understand the argument of the pro-sidewalk people. I don't hear, "sidewalks are great - I love mine - everyone should have them - they are beneficial." All I hear is, "I had to pay for mine, you should have to pay for yours." That isn't an argument for sidewalks, it's just an argument to share the burden and somehow make it "fair". How does that benefit anyone?

etown
Apr 14, 2010 at 3:38 p.m.
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what i dont understand is they ve already taken alot of property from these home owners to widen the road and put in a bike lane, now they want sidewalks too. there is no more on street parking on rotamer road being as they placed the bike lane on the outside of the street. how much property are they going to take away from these home owners . in some case s the road was widen illegally when they never got harmony townships permission to do so. so then they annex they house s in , charge them for the sewer and gutters on a street they should of never widened in the first place and now they want them to pay for sidewalks

etown
Apr 14, 2010 at 3:36 p.m.
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1924grant you some houses didnt get a choice how close they are to the street the city widen some streets and made bike paths , what are they suppose to do pick up the house s and move them.

1924grant
Apr 14, 2010 at 3:06 p.m.
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No whining here. If your house is that close to the street already, it's probably depreciating the value of the rest of the city and should e razed. We should have sidewalks everywhere.

markr
Apr 14, 2010 at 2:14 p.m.
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JustAskMe---Brunner was being sarcastic when he said that, asking rhetorically, "If we don't all have to have them, why don't I just take mine out?" It was not offered as a real scenario.

exFIB
Apr 14, 2010 at 1:35 p.m.
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grant, you want a little cheese with that whine?
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The difference between a furnace in January and sidewalks in my yard is this - the furnace is a necessity and will get used! Come back when you have a better argument. Hopefully I'll have that cheese all sliced up and ready to go for you.

JustAskMe
Apr 14, 2010 at 11:51 a.m.
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Take out existing sidewalks? What? Hopefully the NEXT City Council will think more clearly.

RichE95
Apr 14, 2010 at 10:39 a.m.
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One thing I observe in the council vote may be meaningfull but may mean nothing. The two votes for more sidewalks at this time were Mr Brunner and Mr Steeber. These gentlemen and lifetime government employees or retirees who do not face the financial risk of working families in the private sector. A sad part of every discussion is the folks who take the view "I have sidewalks so you should have to spend the money to get them" (to share my pain?). The council has set groups of citizens up against each other. All of this is another argument for smaller government. The schools spend millions for improvements to include easy drive by drop off zones for parents. Then they want to spend more money on a campaign to find out why kids don't walk or ride their bikes to school.

CallitasIseeit
Apr 14, 2010 at 10:32 a.m.
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"Nix"-to veto; refuse to agree to; prohibit.

1924grant
Apr 14, 2010 at 10:24 a.m.
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sorry, "improvments"

1924grant
Apr 14, 2010 at 10:23 a.m.
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More incumbant bs. It's just one of the many costs of owning a home. The people that are crying about the cost, what will you do if your furnace went out in the middle of january? If you cant afford the imptovement to make our city a better place to live, than maybe you should sell and start renting.

packattack
Apr 14, 2010 at 9:07 a.m.
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Where is Hank when his input is needed? lol I truly hope all is well with him/her.

peb1127
Apr 14, 2010 at 6:57 a.m.
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I watched the hypocrites on the council state they were “pro-sidewalk” and yet they voted against them. I can’t believe I actually agree with both Steeber AND Brunner but I do. Brunner pointed out that a covenant wasn't a legally binding contract and yet that was taken into consideration.
3 years ago, I had to put in sidewalks and it wasn’t economically a good time for me but guess what, I didn’t receive a reprieve. I had to find a way to pay for it and I did. I understand some sections don’t seem to make sense but that’s not the point. The city has a policy that says everyone will have them. That is the only fair policy that treats all homeowners equally. The policy also takes the aesthetics and safety considerations out of the debate. When council members have to pick and choose which sections make sense and which don’t, there going to make mistakes and be open to a lot of criticism of some residents . If the city has a plan in place, then either stick with it or scrap the whole plan or start over. Maybe the people who were in favor of the sidewalks didn’t show up to the meeting because they trusted the council members to follow the city policy?

janesvillean
Apr 13, 2010 at 7:29 p.m.
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This is disappointing. If there are any segments that need filling in, it should be the ones on the Safe Routes to School plan priority list. Janesville is just getting started encouraging alternative transportation for students. Ultimately, each time this plan gets pushed back, the harder it will be to finally complete it.

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