Animal-rights activists picket the 4-H fairgrounds
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JANESVILLE Protesters demonstrating against what they called animal cruelty greeted some 4-H fairgoers before the rodeo’s early performance Sunday.
Among the protesters was Allegrea S.B. Rosenberg of Janesville, who held a hand-lettered sign that said “Fun for you … panic, pain and fear for the animals”
“We’re just here to educate and get the word out,” said Rosenberg, who belongs to the Alliance for Animals of Rock County. Some others among the eight protesters were from Madison or Rockford, Ill., she said.
“Against animals in entertainment! They’re not ours to exploit!” said another sign.
Rosenberg and another protester said they had endured a few insults, and one of them was struck in the back by an egg that they believed was thrown from inside the fairgrounds.
The protest appeared peaceful, however, about 15 minutes before the show started. Two police officers stood on the sidewalk, observing.
One protester with a megaphone had more than just rodeos on his mind.
“Children, think of what you’re eating,” he said. “They call it hot dogs, but it’s really ground-up pigs.”
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Aug 8, 2010 at 11:59 p.m.
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Creating the demand for products of misery, torture, confinement, and murder is not treating animals any respect
Make the connections: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IDTXFRFb...
We have choices and those same healthy vegan choices help us live longer in a more compassionate, cleaner world
Aug 8, 2010 at 5:54 p.m.
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Please don't put people down for their passion for animals. Though I could never qualify for PETA or a protestor, I do beleive in treating animals with respect. And yes I eat meat. JMO
Aug 8, 2010 at 12:09 p.m.
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I think someone fell off the tofu wagon.
Aug 8, 2010 at 11:45 a.m.
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You are so disconnected that you can't even see that munching on corpses "somehow hurts animals." How could you ever make the connections with rodeos and cruelty. Time to open your mind and heart and evolve past your corpse-munching dinasour world view
Aug 8, 2010 at 3:17 a.m.
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*felt, not fell.
Aug 8, 2010 at 2:57 a.m.
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Ignorance is in the thought process that by eating meat or procuring rodeos at the fair that we are somehow harming animals. Rodeo animals are some of the most well cared for animals in the world, if you think those bulls fell much, if any pain, you are wrong.
Aug 8, 2010 at 2:52 a.m.
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Rights movements never go away, they just get stronger and stronger
Aug 8, 2010 at 2:43 a.m.
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After a week this petty issue is still getting talked about....get over it.
Aug 8, 2010 at 2:37 a.m.
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Farmers, rodeo clowns, circus freaks and corpse-munchers are really just grown-up boys and girls getting away with murder who have somehow been handed down a system of hereditary ignorance that prevents reason from taking away their toys - the animals
“The evil that is in the world always comes of ignorance, and good intentions may do as much harm as malevolence, if they lack understanding. On the whole men are more good than bad; that, however, isn't the real point. But they are more or less ignorant, and it is this that we call vice or virtue; the most incorrigible vice being that of an ignorance which fancies it knows everything and therefore claims for itself the right to kill. There can be no true goodness, nor true love, without the utmost clear-sightedness” Camus
Aug 8, 2010 at 2:29 a.m.
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Warwak's comment made me want to go out and buy a nice juicy steak to throw on the ole barbie or maybe some pork ribs. Although a nice big juicy hamburger sounds good too, but whatever I choose I know one thing is for sure, it will get washed down with a nice tall glass of milk.
That reminds me, I need to buy some bacon while at the store.
Aug 8, 2010 at 12:49 a.m.
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Those corpses are yummy!
Aug 7, 2010 at 11:41 p.m.
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Spoken like an ardent corpse-muncher
Aug 7, 2010 at 11:19 p.m.
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Comparing an egg getting thrown at you to terrorism? Are you for real?
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I'll tell you this, I showed pigs at the fair for the better part of my childhood, and feeding and taking care of the animals doesn't make you buddy-buddy or create some so-called emotional attachment.
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"..standing here minding my own business and things are getting thrown at us" - that couldn't be further from the truth. If you were minding your OWN business, you wouldn't have been there trying to get into the business of those trying to enjoy their day.
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I just enjoyed a huge steak, and it was yummy!
Aug 7, 2010 at 11:01 p.m.
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warwak, when is the last time you saw a shrink?
Aug 7, 2010 at 10:16 p.m.
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Janesville, Wisconsin F-H/Rodeo Protest - Aug 1, 2010 [HQ]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vok2N7R8J...
Aug 7, 2010 at 9:52 p.m.
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It is a crime against humanity to decide that children shall stumble and die early deaths so that you may eat and work as you wish
It is not a "personal choice" when you are eating my friends and you are ruining my world. When you made your "personal choice" did you ask the animal if you could confine, torture, and murder him or her? When you made your "personal choice" did you ask me if I mind all your pollution and devastation? My tax money subsidizes your "personal choice." Just because we personally make selfish choices does not make them "personal choices."
This is not just about diet. Don't believe everything you see. The world is an illusion. Wake up. There are many things all around us made from animals that we never notice. We’re so disconnected; we don’t even notice this right in front of our face three times a day. When we open our circle of compassion to all, we grow as a people and our treatment of each other and others improves. It really is about peace, love, and compassion for all.
As long as public schools serve children milk and chopped-up animals for lunch, students will disrespect life. School shootings are a testament how well children learn respect, responsibility, and love from those they trust to care for them.
The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next
No matter what anyone argues, schools feeding unsuspecting children the corpses of once living beings and promoting breast milk--complete with its blood, pus, and hormones--stolen from confined, drugged, and tortured cloned creatures as normal and healthy beyond infancy is a physically, socially, mentally, spiritually, and ecologically damaging, unnecessary crime against humanity.
Aug 4, 2010 at 4:10 p.m.
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“Children, think of what you’re eating,” he said. “They call it hot dogs, but it’s really ground-up pigs.”
That's deep.
Aug 4, 2010 at 3:29 p.m.
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" “They call it hot dogs, but it’s really ground-up pigs.”
YEP and they are darn good mmmuuuu,mmmmmm.
Aug 4, 2010 at 3:28 p.m.
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I didn't see these people.
Were they naked? They need animals to dress themselves. Are they vegitarian as well?
I didn't like them doing the things to the baby steer BUT I was wondering if this is what it takes if one gets loose? This could be your income running down the road to get hit by a car.
Aug 4, 2010 at 9:30 a.m.
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Wouldn't it be great to see these activists putting this kind of passion into our veterans and war heroes, past and present? Come to think of it, wouldn't it be great to see every American acknowledge the sacrifices by our forefathers and fighters for freedom???? Now that would be worthy of a headline!
Aug 4, 2010 at 9:06 a.m.
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TomTiff465
The Catalonia region of Spain just banned bullfighting:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/28...
Aug 4, 2010 at 8:32 a.m.
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jmcpherson - At least you agree an animal can be harvested. That's what happens when myself and millions of others go hunting. Too bad most of the animal rights folks don't see it that way. Ignorance tends to get in the way.
Aug 3, 2010 at 10:34 p.m.
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seen a lot worse....
Aug 3, 2010 at 9:36 p.m.
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Make that "seen a lot worst"
Aug 3, 2010 at 9:31 p.m.
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Have any of these protestors watched a Bullfight in Spain (with the metadors). A rodeo is tame compared to that. They actually kill the bull at the end and drag it off with horses. The last few minutes are the most brutal when you can see the bull bleeding to death and slowing down because it is getting so week. And that is considered family entertainment over there; I saw several families with young kids. So I think the protestors need to look at the total situation and adjust their perspective. I've certainly scene a lot worst!
Aug 3, 2010 at 7:25 p.m.
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Good Grief.............................
Aug 3, 2010 at 5:27 p.m.
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Mudsill...listen to yourself...you chastise me for calling you disgusting because you dont agree with me (which wasnt what I was doing) but even before I posted those comments you were calling us "Whack Jobs" "Hypocrites" and "Frauds". That really hurts...and apparently I have a pathetic life void of attention and meaning. All of this sounds a little hypocritical but HEY! what do I know I cant reason rationally because of my mental bondage to overactive emotions and unrealistic ideas You have a lot of nerve to even post something like that...and that obviously has a lot to say about the type of person you are.
Aug 3, 2010 at 5:09 p.m.
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Yes some of the kids do become attached to the animals, however they go into the project knowing what happens to their animal. A few tears can be shed, but in the end the kids know what the circle of life is all about. Plus the fact that the money they earn from the sale of their animal more often than not goes into a savings or college fund.
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Some choose not to sell a animal, or it doesn't make weight to sell, those end up going home, then off to market at a later date. While others are mandatory to be sold/slaughtered such as the swine (USDA regulations) but in the end the kids know what ultimatly will happen to those animals, and they are ok with it. Why else would they keep coming back year after year to take that project.
Aug 3, 2010 at 4:55 p.m.
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lovinit: They were NOT selling eggs in the poultry barn ! The eggs in the cartons you saw were from the kids that were judged. We also had a blown out egg display of blue & spotted eggs to show people that not all eggs are white or brown. Then the only other eggs were also on display were the emu shells. I know this as a fact as my husband is a co superintendent of the poultry dept. So where the heck do you get that they were selling them?
Aug 3, 2010 at 4:39 p.m.
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I was disgusted because an egg was thrown at us and people were shouting hurtful things at us from PASSING cars. we were STANDING there ready to tell you what we thought unlike some people who just wanted us to hear them and wouldnt listen. You see thats a coward in my book. I almost didnt want to be there because of the guy with the bull horn, who is way extreme, and I will be the first to admit that he was wrong in the way he was protesting. I didnt want to be thrown into the same class as him, which is obviously what happened here. I can look at things from the opposite point of view, in fact I enjoy it. Thats how I get my opinions on things. But like I said when people were hurling insults and throwing things because we thought different...thats disgusting. And I know what most people are thinking here...I would never vandalize a fur coat or cause any damage to any establishment that thought different than me on an issue (Puppy mills, factory farms, and such). And I guess this would be a good time to tell you that I DO eat meat and I DO eat dairy, but I buy products from a local farmer who I actually work with. See an animal can be humanely raised, taken care of, and for lack of a better word harvested. So if I only ate meat and dairy and walked around leather clad from head to toe it wouldnt matter to me as long as the animal wasnt abused. Thats how it should be.
And I've been to peaceful protests and the same things happen. All we do is stand outside of the gate and ask someone if they want some literature...we dont stop people to explain why we are there, yell things or start some sort of anti-whatever chant, we let the signs do the talking. And still people yell at us and laugh at us and get in our faces...unprovoked! This is why I am appalled.
You arent disgusting for thinking different than me. And I dont consider myself better than you because you dont share my same convictions. I want to hear your opinions and thoughts, but when I give you mine open your ears and listen like I did.
And Mudsill, honestly I AM ashamed to be human. Look at what we do to each other. Ill use your example...abortion. And you dont have to look really hard to find more examples. Everyone here and at the rodeo wants to call on some "heritage" BS to justify why its ok to have this rodeo...you want heritage...this entire country was built on the exploitation of everything found in it including humans (theres another example Mudsill). Go ask a Native American about America's "Heritage".
Aug 3, 2010 at 3:14 p.m.
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I was glad to see the you tube link about the protesters. The problem isn't the protesting so much as it is the safety issues they cause doing it on a busy road like that. Free speech doesn't mean you shouldn't use common sense. If you want to protest do it somewhere you won't cause an accident. Will it be enough when someone runs off the road into the crowd because they're distracted instead of cutting someone off in the street? I think the officer would've been within her right to bring the goon squad in to get those people away from the street. To me the video doesn't show police persecuting protesters. It actually seems the other way around. Have some self respect protesters and quit acting like you are the only ones who have rights.
Aug 3, 2010 at 2:44 p.m.
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But I am open to new ideas just because I don't agree doesn't mean i'm not open. Are you open to MY ideas?
to me if animals aren't being beaten, bloody, starved, maimed, senselessly killed etc, it's really none of my business.
If these animals have food water and none are being seriously injured, than I am ok with whatever others might want to do with them.
I don't like rodeo's, it's just not my thing. But understand why they are important. It's part of our heritage. They showcase the skills in an entertainment venue of the animals, the horsemanship, the skiils, etc of what it took to make this country what it was, and is.
I don't really have a problem with that. There is a history and an allure to what the rodeo represents, and it represents a part of America's history.
Now life on a commercial feed lot might be something to protest. By killing those animals we are actually doing them a favor and putting them out of their physical and mental misery.
Aug 3, 2010 at 1:38 p.m.
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jmcpherson - We're disgusting because we don't agree with your views? We aren't the ones out protesting. Next time you show up somewhere, I will protest you being there. Isn't that the same thing? If this is about being open to new ideas, couldn't those that are for it say the same thing to you? Why don't you be more open to it? Let me ask you something. Do you eat meat? Fish? Do you own a belt, shoes, jacket?
Aug 3, 2010 at 1 p.m.
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I was a protester at the fair, and after that experience I finally realized how absolutely disgusting the people in this city really are...and the comments on this page are even more disappointing.
The animal rights nuts are whack-jobs. Very few people take them seriously.
You will never find a bigger group of hypocrites than you will in the animal rights club. They originated the word.
Thanks for being open to new ideas and seeing the other side of things. Grow up Janesville.
Aug 3, 2010 at 11:47 a.m.
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Just food for thought. Beef farmers who raise calves to maturity usually sell the bulls right away as they don't want them breeding the in stock. Plus they don't want to keep feeding them if they have no income coming in like cows do. These bulls on the circuit have a lot longer shelf life then the extra bulls on any farm. So the Macs hamburger you just ate was probably less then a year old.
Aug 3, 2010 at 11:05 a.m.
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There are lifeless souls everywhere...and they seem to get the press. Perhaps likes attract.
Aug 3, 2010 at 11:02 a.m.
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I've got an idea packersfan1- how about you start treating women as sentient beings with a brain?
Aug 3, 2010 at 10:44 a.m.
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You will never find a bigger group of hypocrites than you will in the animal rights club. They originated the word.
Aug 3, 2010 at 10:34 a.m.
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I went to the later performance and saw protesters there, too. One had a sign saying, "Buck the rodeo." Obviously no one paid attention to them. The rodeo was sold out. I wish these animal rights activists would be as outraged over the aborting of human babies. They care more about animals than they do people. They are messed up. Why don't they go out and get real jobs?
Aug 3, 2010 at 10:20 a.m.
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The posters are correct, animal WELFARE is legitimate......when people start talking animal "rights", then its nutty.
The tragedy is that animal welfare actually takes a hit when the "animal rights" nuts muddy the water about the issue....Animal abusers must LOVE the "animal rights" nuts because it turns people OFF that would otherwise be ON the side of animal welfare.
Aug 3, 2010 at 9:52 a.m.
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So real circus and pony show was outside the fairgrounds.
Aug 3, 2010 at 9:50 a.m.
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Animal Rights vs Animal Welfare is usually a difference of political view and public concern. I'm all for animal welfare, but don't think I would want to dabble in the animal rights which brings extremists out to play. I eat meat and can't see arguing that animals at slaughter houses have a right to live. I don't particularly like the fact, but I'm not a vegan. Even though my fave food is boneless chicken (Eggs) I still have sausage on occassion, too.
Aug 3, 2010 at 9:01 a.m.
Aug 3, 2010 at 8:54 a.m.
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"They must have called the Gazette to tell them they were there and where the reporter could find them. Or was it just dumb luck that the reporter happened to be at the right gate at the right time and knew one or 2 of these folks on sight?"
Well since there was a gazette booth located at the fair grounds right near the grandstand and considering how it is the fair and there is this big exciting new event going on at the fair, maybe they thought they should have a reporter there to, I dont know, report on it? Seems like a good idea for a story assignment. And o look there is an article entitled "Rodeo Lassos Thousands".... huh..well maybe your right, why would a news paper reporter have any business showing up at a local fair in the same city or where they have a booth to just write about the fair?
Aug 3, 2010 at 8:53 a.m.
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USDA "approved" is far too often a misnomer whether it involves livestock, GMOs, or consumer quality. Simply Google "USDA failure" and you'll see slaughterhouse inspections and humane treatment of animals is not more acceptable than practices in other nations. Nature and life are messy but the amazing thing about our species is that we can make an educated choice to behave more compassionately, live more healthfully, and truly honor our world if we simply make the effort. As Thomas Edison once said, "Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages."
Aug 3, 2010 at 8:47 a.m.
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They were selling eggs in the chicken barn.
Aug 3, 2010 at 8:37 a.m.
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I have gone to a lot of fairs over the years and have never taken an egg with for the chance I may encounter a protester. It seems like a bunch of BS that one was hit in the back of the head with an egg from inside the fair.
Aug 3, 2010 at 7:46 a.m.
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proartist- Unfortunately for animal rightists, life, and nature, is messy. Those of us in the horse industry have seen the environment for horses in the USA PLUMMET after the USA horse slaughterhouses were closed. instead of going on a short trip to a USDA approved, instant stunning type slaughterhouse in the US, horses get trucked over the whole USA (from New York!) and to Mexico, where they are stabbed and bled out while alive.
Until animal rights activists actually start working for animal WELFARE, and not rights, they aren't going to get anywhere. And sadly, their extremism may cause more suffering to more animals than they prevent.
Aug 3, 2010 at 7:22 a.m.
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"If one person is unkind to an animal it is considered to be cruelty, but where a lot of people are unkind to animals, especially in the name of commerce, the cruelty is condoned and, once large sums of money are at stake, will be defended to the last by otherwise intelligent people."—Ruth Harrison, author of Animal Machines
Aug 3, 2010 at 12:36 a.m.
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Good for them for knowing where to begin~there is a lot wrong with the Fair.
Aug 2, 2010 at 10:43 p.m.
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People stand up for their beliefs and you call them freaks and whack-jobs. Nice attitude. This community embarrasses me sometimes. I thought the people here were better than that.
Aug 2, 2010 at 10:42 p.m.
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Obviously the protesters wanted attention to their cause and got it through this article....to each his own.
Aug 2, 2010 at 10:25 p.m.
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ok.....If the Bull could talk and you were to do an interview with him asking him if he liked being in Rodeos my guess is he'd probably say "No I don't like rednecks riding on my back!!" Don't get me wrong I eat the furry fat critters at McDonalds too but don't tell me that isn't inhumane....It stresses the Heck outta them look at em for god sakes!! LOL Poor Bull probably would have lived another 3 years if it weren't for some RedNeck riding on his back for pleasure and thrill.
Aug 2, 2010 at 8:28 p.m.
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I see nothing wrong with protesting or a news article about protesting. We type our opinions on here every day so why put down someone else for doing the same thing? Lighten up Francis!
Aug 2, 2010 at 8:26 p.m.
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Freak shows are always news.
Aug 2, 2010 at 8:20 p.m.
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jimbo -
"On Walworth County fair announces headliners
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Where's the Metalica??? Slayer?? 50 cent, Linkin Park, Snoop Dawg??"
You bore me...
Aug 2, 2010 at 8:13 p.m.
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Living in rodeo country, I can tell you that I have never seen animals more well taken care of than those. These guys and girls certainly don't abuse the tools of their livelihood.
Aug 2, 2010 at 7:55 p.m.
Aug 2, 2010 at 7:53 p.m.
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8 freaks get a headline in janesville? Times are tougher than I thought
Aug 2, 2010 at 7:50 p.m.
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4H FAIR......BARF!!!! Where was the 50 cent Metalica...Slayer and M&M??? Was there a band that played that was from the North by any chance? Now they have Rodeos?
Aug 2, 2010 at 6:54 p.m.
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Whatever... it is a Fair!!! Any idea what goes into a fair animal? These animals are groomed, well fed, I mean... REAllY well fed! And coddled... with a lot of interaction, by the kid in 4H.
The lasting effects of any
social activity that, as a child, challenges them and teaches them patience at the same time, is worth the investment. For them to even understand the food chain... is beyond comprehension! They raise these animals and care for them. They bring them to the fair as a marketable product, for which they have an integral part of!
I've seen the kids that were so attached to their animal... its "shaky ground" to me. I guess it would be REALLY hard for me to tell my child that the end of this "adventure" is a sale to slaughter. I don't know... if my child was obviously emotionally attached to an animal, I would prefer it become a pet... versus trying to instill economics...
Aug 2, 2010 at 6:03 p.m.
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Well, I know this local group, and while IMO they are a bit over-the-top and sometimes even misguided, good for them for taking their first amendment rights to the street.
Aug 2, 2010 at 5:57 p.m.
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8 of these "activists" show up for what, a couple of hours Sunday morning and it's a newsworthy event? They must have called the Gazette to tell them they were there and where the reporter could find them. Or was it just dumb luck that the reporter happened to be at the right gate at the right time and knew one or 2 of these folks on sight?
Aug 2, 2010 at 4:52 p.m.
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I would suggest sticking to puppy mills and protesting stores that sell puppies, newspaper ads and online sellers of puppies from puppy mills/puppy farms....Yes, we know there is some abuse of farm animals at slaughterhouses and elsewhere but the puppy mill business is SO much more egregious...I've never heard of a pig or cow saving someone's life like dogs do thousands of times....All that effort should be put into stopping puppy mills instead...Thats my opinion.
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