Keep dreaming in fairy land. Let the dead horse lie.

If you idiots are so sure on your call back future, let's talk again in 5 years and we'll see how things are looking for you guys. I guessing not a one of you will be working at a Janesville GM. Not one!

andre_linoge(hope thats right sorry if not) not that many at all. had more double shifters on holiday weeks than the rest of the year.
haybar3: good to know someone else feels the way some of us do from the janesville plant altho most all are now transferred. GO PACK!

melstew47: Yeah, going to school to learn a trade did no good for my husband. If he doesn't find work soon, he'll probably go to Southern Arizona again since there seems to be work for his field there, and I'll be here working till I can sell everything and sell the house. Not that he didn't apply for everything under the sun. 70+ apps put in and only 2 interviews! What's up with that?! These companies better start hiring and soon before Janesville becomes a ghost town with no one left to pay the citie's ridiculous taxes.

Hey Janesville, there's a REASON why GM put both plants in 'idle' status. I'm from the Spring Hill Plant, and there is NO news thread anywhere here picking up this story! Hmmmmm...As I see it, we have a 50/50 chance for NEW PRODUCT. So good luck, oh yeah .... GO TITANS!

Bad mood tonight? You're posting comments in two different stories equivalent to "who cares". Obviously people care or they wouldn't be commenting.

who honestly cares?? do any of you think for one second that any people from the general public would be able to get a job there if they did come back?? no, they would be bring back as much as they could from the prior work force and then hire their friends and family. Give it a rest, janesville will be looking as bad as beloit in 10 years.

texas is also a right to work state and look how thats going. turn over is so great down there because people see how tough the job is and leave right away. and a shift was never canceled or delayed because the packers played

I don't believe that the fact GM hasn't (or won't) pick Janesville has much to do with the workers, the efforts of Forward Janesville or even Mr. Sheridan. Cumulative this is what company's think about locating in Wisconsin: http://tiny.cc/klywr
You might want to see where Tennessee is located on that list. Until we get a pro-business climate in this state (getting rid of Doyle is a good start), Wisconsin will not attract large businesses.

Ya know, i've been reading all this stuff and its rather comical. but what it boils down to is this. each plant has a 50-50 shot at re-opening wether you negative nellies want to admit it or not. however its not our decision. its Detroits. Do they know who? of coarse,and prolly have for quite a while now. do they want a plant whos state government is suing them for unused training funds and whos state senator favors toyota? or do they want an older plant in which they could immediately call back layed off workers (prolly from area hire as per contract) as needed for the line AND hire locals to fill the 2nd tier to make it a true tier plant? you have to look at the pros and cons and it seems no one is doing that. one plant is body on frame and the other is unibody. one would give GM huge profit per vehicle, the other is a newer plant. i'm headed back to Ft Wayne tomorrow so yea, i went back to work. do i have a choice to come back? yea i do but i won;t get into that. i'll be watching and waiting like the rest of ya. i'll also be laughing quite a bit, some of the posts are hilarious. Detroit already knows-they are just trying to get more out which state wants it bad enough. it alaso depends on WHAT the demand is for. they kept one of each type of plant on stand by. time will tell who gets it.

blah blah blah as they say put up or shut up,im so sick of all these false hopes for these people without jobs.theyre not going to do anything unless theres something in it for them.they need to quit running there mouth about any of this,until its signed in blood.lol.there are no jobs here,theres not going to be any jobs here,an the ones who are hiring,like mcdonalds an other affiliates continue not to hire,because they think they have the upper hand,an in a sense they do,its almost as if you have to have a masters to work there,these people that are hiring,need to quit being such asses,an hire people,instead there apps.arent good enough,im getting ready to take a job 900 miles from here,because my husband cant find work.ill be doing the same as those gm employees,coming home a couple times a month,an that sucks,so gm an all who are affiliated with them,should shut their yammering skull caves,until they actually know something positive.

The_One- You obviously don't have a clue regarding what you are talking about. I personally have 34 years of callback rights according to the national contract. I haven't transferred. Those who have transferred may or may not have callback rights depending on which paragraph they transferred under.

+1 to what Coll3ctor said! The_One can't even get the facts straight on callback rights.....probably explains all the rest of The_One's clueless comments on here!

The_One,

You don't care and you sure the hell don't know :)

lol !!!

Anyone who thinks GM will reopen is wearing rose colored glasses.

As far as 5-year call back rights, don't bet on it. Whether it's in the contract or not, it's irrelavant, IF GM were to open the plant it will be with new hires at lower pay rates, rather than the dislocated workers at higher pay rates. Of course, the dislocated workers would be able to apply but would not receive the wages they had at the time of closing.

if they bring this to janesville and the plant reopens it s highly unlikely they would bring back the old employees,what they would probably do is bring in new employee at the low pay rate. which is good for wisconsin , but not so good to the dedicated families that were loyal to gm all these years.

ps... public vioce. might you be one of Sheridan's "face book" friends???? hmmmmmm

publicvoice.... maybe for the simple fact that the former chairman has more at stake for his retirement; unlike Sheridan whom has his two pensions to collect. Some look at everyday issues plain and simple as they are.... not through the crystal ball as Sheridan does. The upcoming election should be grand as we drive through the streets of Janesville and don't see many sheridan signs... But blame where it is due... not on those that have moved on to finish their careers

I can see the headlines now: Favre Retires, Janesville GM ReOpens!

Look guys, I really don't care. You could have a 50 year guarantee. The point is regardless what it is, GM will still need to come back, AND THAT AIN'T HAPPENING... Good luck with that return policy!

no more GM in janesville O NO. LOL.

It's too bad the Janesville Gazette contacts a PAST Local 95 Chairman instead of anybody presently in a leadership role at Local 95. The past chairman that was interviewed has no more ties to Janesville, so why contact him at all? At least we have people like Sheridan and Cullen out there promoting Janesville to General Motors and keeping them aware of the fact that our local plant is still on the map and ready to build a product if the opportunity arises. Leadership at Local 95 should be doing the same thing and not giving up hope and conceding that it's going to Spring Hill instead of Janesville.

Don't hold your breath.. G.M. is not the only industry you could have made good money and a few of the others still thriving.. I could never get into G.M. so I found other well paying work through Blood and sweat now I get to look back glad I did.. I always wanted to know what it felt like when I was young, to have the "good job" now I do and the other got pissed away. So be it

The_One,

WE HAVE 5 YEAR CALL BACK RIGHTS TO OUR HOME PLANT FROM THE DAY WE LAST WORKED.

You best call the union hall if you don't believe me.

It's all good--the new ice arena will save us all (the parking garage downtown was a savior also)

Ezoner, personal bankruptcy and business bankruptcy are very different animals. Businesses sometimes use a strategic bankruptcy or a prepackaged bankruptcy where they have negotiated the terms in advance. Under Chapter 11 the business acts as its own trustee and while it can't exactly dictate terms to its creditors it has much more flexibility than when an impartial trustee oversees the process. Maybe you don't think what they did counts for whatever reason you make up, but the fact is that the case was filed in U.S. Bankruptcy Court and you can look it up on PACER like any other bankruptcy case. It certainly had unique aspects, but it was a bankruptcy.

Chances are anything coming here are next to nill. But iin reference to "John Wayne" and supposedly Dohner giving the farm away.... if you have any knowledge- the workforce VOTED on the contract and anyhow it never went into effect as the plant closed!! "my 3 kids" as far as sheridan and dohner activities in the last year.... dohner took a transfer like ANYONE else to get his time, Sheridan is apparently only around now that the election is near. Get over the name bashin folks, you are just showing how ingnorant and jealous you truly are. Life has gone on for many of these employees, now it's just simply the game that happens when this stuff hits the media.

Yes it is...look at the facts...the place is falling down..if anyone at GM cared it would at least be kept up a little bit now its an eye sore fo sho...second...why open up a plant that is so old and decrepid that even simple things like utilities are in need of major over haul...services probably wont even fire off...people we could use the jobs that is for sure, I would love to see this happen for the commnity...however I think I have a better chance hitting power ball this weekend

"We have 5 year recall rights to our home plant."

Not if you haven't left... You don't go, then you are done. That was part of the deal. We will transfer you, and in return, you can come back within five years... If you don't go when we ask you to, you're done.

Therefore, if you’re sitting here, waiting for GM to open, hoping and praying for their return, you are screwed! There will be no recall for you. IF, and that’s a huge if they do heir, it will be at best, half the normal wage, not what you’re accustom to.

So, to all of you who think GM is that white horse you can ride off into the sunset, and all your problems will end, think again. If they do return, it will be more like a rented mule, you’ll still need a job but complain there aren’t any, you'll still think it's not fair, you'll then ask why GM's doing this to you, you'll get excited every three months as bogus reports come in about their return, then be greatly disappointed when they don't. It seems to be the circle of life for a GM employee.

Hey -- ex-GM er's ---- I hear that there are some positions opening up in Arizona, as the illegals leave. Its time to go to work.

Janesvillian -- they did not go through a true bankruptsy..... the government and my tax dollrs are now invested in the same porrly managed company, with over privaledged benefits, and rediculous pensions.

So no, it did not go through a true bankruptsy and anyone that thinks it did has never been through one.

lol what a bunch cr-p GM is done in janesville.

Why not take the "$20 million from Rock County" and make some jobs? Or incentives to create new jobs? Just sayin', Since, from what I read here in the comments, it's a dead horse they're backing anyway. It seems noone expects the reopening to happen, but if they're going to reopen one, isn't that an indication of a FUTURE possibility?

In the article, "Cullen said Whitacre's comments can only be good news in the long run." CULLEN?????!!!!

Forward Janesville? People please! This entire county and state has a vested interest in seeing GM reopen or another manufacturing entity inhabit that plant. Don't you know how sales in all areas of Janesville have dropped? We all lost when they closed. This is our city and the tumbleweeds are beginning to blow in. Let's at least all hope and pray for something to come here!

The_One, you are right. This is all just to sell papers. I doubt they will ever come back here. This is a ghost town now, why would they want to come back? Sheridan just wants to score a few points before election time. JMO

The auto industry is forever changed. This plant is the oldest least efficient plant in the Govt Motors system. Unless the demand in China for GM products is too great for local Chinese production to meet, this plant well never open. The costs are too high.

Secondly, the Spring Hill plant has current production and employees, Janesville assembly does not. Forward Janesville and others who have a vested interest in the economic health of Janesville need to move forward and accept the fact that Janesville was once a proud auto manufacturing town-just as it once was a proud Pen manufacturing town.

Focus on the future and establish a new niche rather than relying on the past.

"If you didn't go, you're done..."

NOT true. We have 5 year recall rights to our home plant.

...still holding breath for Sheridan's promised NEW GM plant.

Clownpuncher,

That's a great point... Everyone's hoping, wishing, or praying GM will come back... However, remember the GM employees, or as Ezoner likes to call them, "Janesville's Unemployed", were given a transfer option. You remember, the crying about such short notice, you can't do this to me, that's unfair stuff.

If you didn't go, you're done... So even IF they reopen, what's it going to matter. Those who are "dying to get back to work", will have to wait for the 5000 people still living off GM to either, quit because they need to actually work, or GM's going to need a butt load of jobs to get to people around here...

So let's just move on. You have to be smarter then that. If the Gazette prints or posts an article about GM and its return, its not because they truly believe it, IT SELLS PAPERS, or generates web interest, which satisfy sponsors.

So be forewarned... There's a good chance you will see more of this in the future. Regardless, think about it , IT'S OVER!

Its sad America could not be an all-American country, our founding father’s intent.

Funny how Sheridan's mug is on another GM article, He couldn't be found anywhere when it closed. Luckily we have Bill Truman running for assembly, the working (and non-working) mans choice!

I'm sorry friends, we just have to accept that it's not going to happen as much as we hope it will.

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-2010...

i heard on the news last night that gm was going to open a new plant in mexico. with a 4 hundred million helping hand from obama care and his ilk.spread the wealth baby.

It is not going to happen....so lets just get over it!

Janesville might need to look to the future, but there will be nothing like GM here, ever, unless they reopen.

Now would be an excellent time to revisit some substantial tax breaks or incentive package that would actually sway GM's opinion. We still need manufacturing in the USA, and we can do it here.

It should re-opening as the National Labatory and Production Center for Alternative Energy (NLPCA) which could happen for less than $10 Billion of stimulus money. It would establish our national priority to move our nation away from oil and toward renewable energy resources. The reworked facility would become the national clearing house for fasttracking solar, wind, thermal and electric energy research and production. Within four years it would produce the first non-fossil fuel propulson engine for medium size trucks, semi trucks and mass transit vehicles. Within six years it would produce an engine for passenger cars. It would also develop low cost residential solar and wind applications.
The Janesville Project! Does anyone have a better use???

Then why even mention it. Why raise false hope, if Janesville hasn't got a chance. I think it's mean.

Ezoner, GM *did* go into bankruptcy, and large chunks of the company *were* broken up or sold off. Have you been watching the news the last 15 months?

GM should have went into Bankruptsy, They have no hope in saving or changing the management nor t he Union strangling of the comapny. The management, the unions, are all at fault, while union membership -- or better known as the Janesville unemployed, have no hope. The problem is there isnt a single fix, and the union is part of the problem, not the solution, yet they have part of the ownership now.

We should have let the entire comapny be broken up and sold off.

Janesville needs to look to the future. While GM is an important part of the past, it is still the past. Economic recovery to this area depends on new developments. Until Janesville is willing to completely close the door on GM ever returning, it will continue to struggle.

Gung HO (film)

The remarks by John Dohner reinforce the problem with union attitudes. I do not consider a person moving to a high paying job as being "decimated". It would seem he would prefer to see people stay on unemployment and benefits rather than work. Remember that GM is now controlled by Obama and the UAW. If they think the Democratic party would gain by starting up Janesville they just might do it.

So wait... What you're telling me is that they are "coming back". They're just not "coming back"...here. Huh, who would have guessed, GM's not coming back to Janesville.

Could you imagine how smart someone might look, if they actually made that prediction, even against the popular opinion of the GM faithful...

But, I know what you're thinking. "They are coming back, you just wait...". My response to you is, "Anyone got that final nail for this coffin?"

Calling all blind, optimists please post now!

A story about GM possibly opening with a picture of Mike Sheridan. Need I say more?

The reopening of the Janesville plant would be a reason to celebrate for not only the Janesville area and its residents, but for all of Wisconsin. What could be more important to our state than the addition of several thousand family supporting jobs.

How many former GM employees are still sitting around in the false hope that the plant will re-open? Most I know have moved on to new jobs or taken transfers. It is over, people. The "bargaining" part of the grieving process should be done by now. This town will never get back on its feet by looking to the past.

Such negativity. Other than GM, who really does know the future of nour local plant?

Just stop with the rumors and getting people's hopes up. This is getting just as old as the Brett Favre saga. let them both R.I.P.