Future of Janesville GM site remains uncertain
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JANESVILLE Very dark, very cold, very spooky.
That’s how a recent visitor describes the General Motors assembly plant in Janesville.
Thursday will be the two-year anniversary of the day GM stopped building light-duty sport utility vehicles in Janesville.
More than 1,300 workers left the plant two days before Christmas with the knowledge that they wouldn’t return. In doing so, they joined hundreds of others at companies that supplied the local plant, as well as the 1,300-plus people laid off earlier that year when GM ended second-shift SUV production.
With a relative handful of employees left behind, GM produced its last medium-duty truck four months later and turned out the lights on a storied production run that spanned 10 decades in Janesville.
While the displaced workers have moved on, the hulking plant that was the spoke of the local auto industry sits idle, housing only a small security detail.
“You get a very eerie feeling walking around in the plant,” said John Beckord, president of Forward Janesville, a private economic development group with a strong interest in the property’s re-use, either by GM or someone else.
“You wonder if the walls are talking.”
Over the last 20 months, Beckord and others have talked with GM about the future of the 4.8 million-square-foot building that sits on 250 acres.
For the most part, however, their hands are tied. Any decision rests with GM, which isn’t likely to make one without input from the United Auto Workers—at least until the current labor contract expires in September 2011.
When it went through bankruptcy, GM retained the Janesville plant, categorizing it and an assembly facility in Tennessee as “standby” plants that would be the first back in production if the automaker needed more space to build cars and trucks.
While the auto industry is growing once again, GM hasn’t tapped either Janesville or Spring Hill, and it’s mum when it comes to predicting the future or talking about the status of the local plant.
GM spokeswoman Kim Carpenter said the automaker continues to monitor its manufacturing footprint and will adjust it to meet market demands. Right now, GM needs the Janesville plant in “standby” status, although that could change in the future, she said.
“From our perspective, not a lot can be accomplished until such a time when GM says they don’t need it anymore,” Beckord said.
Several companies have looked at the plant, he said. Nothing has materialized.
That’s understandable, given that GM’s focus is squarely on its reinvention.
“We met with them last spring, and everything was hunky-dory,” said Vic Grassman, Janesville’s economic development director. “But then the lead guy got transferred, and the new guy hasn’t returned an e-mail.
“Right now, we’re just a fly on the wall to them.”
Future possibilities
Re-use of the Janesville property likely would follow one of two scenarios, or, perhaps, a combination of the two.
The first would involve a return of some sort of GM production. Some industry observers rule that out, arguing that if more capacity is needed, GM will continue to consolidate in Michigan, a state that’s lavished the automaker with tax incentives others can’t match.
Others, however, point to a resurging industry that might need to tap empty auto plants, even if it would mean an investment of hundreds of millions of dollars in Janesville.
The second scenario involves GM deciding it no longer needs the Janesville plant and agreeing to either sell or donate the property to the community or a third-party developer.
In the latter scenario, local officials would work on a redevelopment plan that includes several tenants involved in manufacturing, warehousing, distribution and other activities.
But with local control would come tremendous challenges, primarily the costs associated with a redevelopment plan and cleaning up environmental contamination.
Such a plan undoubtedly would involve environmental lawyers, real estate developers and other professionals involved with everything from the condition of the building’s infrastructure to its road and rail access.
On his recent visit to the darkened plant, Beckord carried a flashlight. He noted that strong steel and concrete still support the facility. But the roof leaks, and, as time goes by, that concerns him.
“The foundation is still there, and if you could find the right user …” he said.
Beckord, however, is a realist. Nationwide, the demand for buildings approaching 5 million square feet is nonexistent.
“The supply of available space in this country is enormous,” he said.
That lends itself to the idea that the property could be split up and used as a campus by several companies.
Would it be built to order or developed on speculation?
“There’s a massive expense in any of that,” Beckord said.
Grassman can envision the property, or at least part of it, as a multimodal hub. Given the property’s rail service, it could be a distribution point where trucks are put on trains for distribution.
“That’s just one thought, and it’s not one that has been analyzed at all from any economic development perspective,” he said.
Elephant in the room
An Obama administration official visited in June to see how the federal government could help Janesville, one of several communities hurt by the downturn of the domestic auto industry.
Shortly thereafter, Grassman and others met with representatives from the Environmental Protection Agency and the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.
Environmental concerns associated with the local plant are legendary, fueled primarily by generational talk of buried vehicles and waste such as paint and toxic solvents.
“They said that they would love to work with us,” Grassman said. “Our strategy was to get going so we wouldn’t lose a year, but the problem is we can’t get on the property.”
Linda Hanefeld, the DNR’s remediation and redevelopment team supervisor in southcentral Wisconsin, agreed that access is difficult.
“We don’t have the authority to just walk onto the property,” she said.
Ideally, she said, DNR officials would be allowed access to GM data to see what type of materials could pose environmental problems. Based on that, the department would start drilling for samples and follow up with remediation plans, if necessary.
“We’ve been involved and had discussions with the city, county and GM reps,” she said. “The city has a relationship with GM, so we’re really letting them take the lead.
“We want to work with all parties to get the best outcome.”
A fighter to the finish
So, too, does Rep. Mike Sheridan, who for six years has represented Janesville in the Assembly, including two years as Speaker.
Sheridan made a trip to Detroit on Thursday to meet with GM officials, one of his final acts as a state lawmaker.
He went armed with lists of questions and ideas formulated from GM people—union and management—back in his district and with the blessing of Gov.-elect Scott Walker.
“It’s part of my ongoing effort to keep the dialogue open between GM and the state of Wisconsin,” said Sheridan, who worked at the plant for 31 years and served two terms as president of United Auto Workers Local 95.
“Until they take a bulldozer to it, I’m absolutely not giving up on that plant.”
GM PLANT IN A 'COLD STATE'
The local rumors pop up every few months or so.
This general contractor or that electrical company is spending a lot of time inside the shuttered General Motors assembly plant in Janesville.
It’s just a matter of time, those doing the talking say, until the local plant returns to production.
Steve Brock is familiar with the rumors. As a GM manufacturing director, one of his responsibilities is for idled production facilities.
“In the last few months, there has been more activity at Janesville as we’ve gone in with local GM-UAW folks who have been laid off and a small group of contractors to handle a number of equipment requests from other locations,” Brock said.
The workers, Brock said, have been removing equipment, not adding it.
In 2009, GM identified and inventoried assets at the Janesville plant, he said. While much of it was removed and shipped to other plants, a lot of equipment remains.
“A lot of it is very product specific, so it’s been shipped to facilities that can use it,” he said.
Most of the plant’s mechanical systems have been shut down to make the facility as secure as possible, he said.
In addition to a security company, the plant is staffed by a GM site manager and an environmental engineer.
“The plant has been put into what we call a cold state,” Brock said, adding that routine maintenance isn’t necessary because the internal systems aren’t operating.
“The analogy I like to use is what you would do with your cottage up north as you prepare for the winter,” he said. “You shut everything off.”
The amount of manufacturing equipment that remains in the plant is hard to describe, Brock said.
But it certainly has decreased, as has the amount of ancillary equipment needed to run a business
The amount of taxable personal property inside the plant dwindled from about $5 million in 2009 to less than $250,000 this year.
Personal property is machinery and equipment used for nonmanufacturing purposes such as furniture, fixtures, office equipment and supplies. It does not include machinery and equipment used exclusively and directly in the manufacturing process, which is tax exempt.
GM spokeswoman Kim Carpenter said the automaker does not have a timeline for the Janesville plant, one that either returns it to production or disposes of it.
If needed, she said, the plant could be readied for production.
“Just because things have been removed doesn’t mean it isn’t possible,” she said.
But if that’s the case, it will take time, Brock said.
GM still owns several taxable properties in Janesville, but the two most significant are the plant proper and the adjoining “JATCO” distribution yard it bought in 2005.
Property records show that in 2006, the automaker owned real estate assessed at $30.9 million and personal property valued at $6.1 million for a total of about $37 million. That generated property taxes that added nearly $750,000 to local coffers.
For the 2010 tax year, however, GM’s total assessment has fallen to $12.6 million, 98 percent of which is attributable to real estate holdings. Ten years ago, the total assessment was $53.5 million, and 73 percent of it was levied on real estate holdings.
This month, eight tax bills were mailed to Detroit for a total of $326,000, less than half the amount levied four years ago. Taxes due on the main plant property total $253,000, while those due on the former JATCO parcel are $59,000.
Stephanie Marquis is a spokeswoman for the Wisconsin Department of Revenue, the state agency that assesses all manufacturing properties in the state.
The assessed value of the GM properties has fallen for several reasons, she said.
The department assesses properties based on their “highest and best use,” and clearly the GM plant is at neither, she said, adding that the economy also has affected property values.
“It’s a very special-use property that’s vacant and not in use,” she said. “The building is older, and it’s not being maintained as it was previously.
“It’s an auto assembly plant, and for any other company that’s not an automaker, it would require an awful lot of money.”

Jan 4, 2012 at 12:31 a.m.
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The GM plant will probably not open again due to the lack of concessesions by the union. It is gone, and people need to move on. Why would you want to go back to a place that shoved a stick up your @#$. Get some vision Janesville and get the old people off of the council to bring new ideas to the area and promote something sustainable.
Jan 3, 2012 at 5:05 p.m.
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Who knows. GM may not be done with it either. their concentrating on re opening Springhill and putting on 3rd shifts at two otehr plants right now.
Jan 3, 2012 at 3:14 p.m.
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There is still a chance that Toyota leases the plant to assemble the 2015-2017 Tundras. Cross your fingers.
May 28, 2011 at 10:01 a.m.
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It seems to be rusting up very nicely.
May 27, 2011 at 4:56 p.m.
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I said this a few months after closing when all the grass was growing through the parking lot, the city of Janesville needs to give GM ten years to make a decision and if GM cannot make a decision then force them to tear it down and clean up the site. If the city council doesn't want to force the issue of getting jobs here and getting a dilapidated building removed or renovated, then we need to vote out the city council members. If GM doesn't clean it up I can bet that the site will go on the Federal list for cleanup with Janesville residents footing the bill because of our awesome city council will allow it the bill to be forced upon the residents.
BTW nice security force. I have recently been told by one person that they know of people that have broken into the plant and took thousands of pounds of wiring and steel. Now before you get yourself in a bundle there is nothing I can do since it is hearsay and I don't know who these people are. But I do think the city and GM needs to up their security much more. I wonder how many transients are living in the building.
And to continue, this plant will never reopen with our current government in the state of Wisconsin. Look, they are adding 2,500 jobs in Detroit. There is no way they are going to spend millions to open this s)))hole here. They will push those union workers at open plants a bit harder (as they should) to get every little extra bit they can out of them before they waste money on a dilapidated building in a biased, poorly ran city.
Dec 22, 2010 at 9:16 p.m.
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tracco6: Don't be surprised if you and your wife find yourselves moving back to Janesville in 2012-2013. This is when they will move production from Arlington back to Janesville for the next gen full-size SUV (C3XX) build. Granted, the plant will be modeled after Orion with a huge tier 2 structure, but it will happen.
Dec 22, 2010 at 9:11 p.m.
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my3boys: Stable company? I would say GM was a pretty stable company in Janesville considering the plant opened in 1919, started building Chevys in 1923 and went on standby in 2009. I would say that was a pretty stable time. Jobs were provided for thousands. Not too many other companies in the state can say that.
Dec 21, 2010 at 11:14 a.m.
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Major manufacturing Co. moving into old GM plant? They make the little fancy umbrella's that go into high price cocktails drinks! Rumors, just rumors!
Dec 20, 2010 at 9:52 p.m.
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Rumor has it that Toyota is considerring a lease on the Janesville GM plant - cross your fingers.
Dec 20, 2010 at 3:34 p.m.
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Ncc"How many more of these GM articles do we have to read about. Im sure there is other stuff in Janesvile to report on.."
The ice areana-
I am tired of these too. Didn't even read it.
Dec 20, 2010 at 3:06 p.m.
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ONCE SCREAMIN MEEMEES LEFT THE AREA, SO DID GM AND GILMANS. THANKS JVL FOR BUILDING THE 6 MILLION DOLLAR ROAD TO NOWHERE.
Dec 20, 2010 at 2:33 p.m.
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janesvillean > "move" I was thinking about regrowing a mullit, where else can I live with a mullit and fit rite in ...
Dec 20, 2010 at 2:05 p.m.
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OMG! Stop kicking the dead dog and get on with your lives already! GM IS GONE! Get over it, get on with your lives.
Dec 20, 2010 at 1:54 p.m.
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The gazette did this story, no doubt, because of the rumors that are being passed on to them. There was activity at the plant and people go to the local paper for answers on what is going on over there.
Dec 20, 2010 at 12:49 p.m.
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copo9561, it is the ONLY vacant plant currently owned by GM. If you are angry at false hope, and want the company to sell the plant so it can be redeveloped by someone else, the people to call are at GM headquarters in Detroit. The Gazette is not responsible for the status of the plant.
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Personally, I'd much rather that people who carp about the coverage be the ones who shut up. Whether GM reopens or sells the place and a private party or public entity redevelops it, it's going to be right here in Janesville and part of the city for a long time to come. If you don't want to hear about it, there are hundreds of other cities you can move to that don't have a closed GM plant.
Dec 20, 2010 at 12:22 p.m.
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What a joke...The DNR and EPA cannot go onsite and investigate legitimate claims of dumping. If that is the case then it's GM's best interest to keep the place a on the books as an idle plant forever to avoid the cleanup cost.
Dec 20, 2010 at 11:02 a.m.
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when you google janesville GM you get like hundreds of hits from the janesville gazzette running articles on GM possibley reopining or not.
I think this adds a false hope to a city that already lived/lives in the past .
jeez they could level that place and the gazette could run a article about GM wanting to reopen a plant and some folks in janesville would be thinking GM is comming back.
Dec 20, 2010 at 10:33 a.m.
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The lot looks plowed in the picture!
They must be coming back.
Dec 20, 2010 at 10:23 a.m.
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It's unfortunate that the city can't assess the taxes at a much higher rate. Make the property too expensive for GM to let sit there and simply rot away. I realize that the facility is too segmented and run down to make it attractive to any other industry, but it would be great if a successful automaker like Honda or Toyota could come in and clean up what GM and the UAW make a mess of.......
Dec 20, 2010 at 10:15 a.m.
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NCC1701 - Yes, people DO CARE if GM comes back or not.
Dec 20, 2010 at 9:16 a.m.
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mantracker: If GM were to reopen it would take alot of construction workers. Electricians, plumber, iron workers, carpenters, and fitters. This would open up alot of work outside of GM. Also it would boost trucking and small manufacturing. I think the state should tell Gm no taxes for 5-10 years to get them back.
Dec 20, 2010 at 9:08 a.m.
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My wife and I moved to Fort Worth Tx.She took a job at the Arlington plant about 2 years ago.She started working on the line but ended up in management.Shes introduced me to some upper management people she works with and they say the chance of the Janesville plant opening again are 5% or less. So in other words who knows.They say you can never rule it out.
Dec 20, 2010 at 8:10 a.m.
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I talked to my union rep and filed a grievance for all of my backpay if they reopen the plant.
Dec 20, 2010 at 6:32 a.m.
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A comment in the forum calling the GM plant a "buried dead dog" and questioning the need for the article is interesting. I was happy to see an update on the plant. I guess after so many years of the GM plant being in Janesville you do wonder what will happen next. I would agree that decisions will hopefully be made in 2011.
Dec 20, 2010 at 1:44 a.m.
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Like I said before, Janesville lacks the vision or the willingness to listen to vision. They are still hoping against hope! Why doesn't the Gazette report on other people's ideas for the plant location? Maybe they lack vision as well...
Dec 19, 2010 at 11:22 p.m.
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I think the concept of "Moving on to a new company" sounds good, but as was said multiple times in this article that isn't an easy task. There is no shortage of warehouse space across the country. The cost of altering and cleaning this facility is too high. Our best chance is for auto sales to warrant reopening this plant. Until that happens, there is no news.
Dec 19, 2010 at 10:22 p.m.
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I agree that this would be nice to have resolved, but the party that needs to do that is GM, by deciding to scrap the plant or not. They chose to keep it in the bankruptcy and probably want to hold on to it a little longer, because building a new facility would be even more expensive. It depends greatly on how the auto market (and GM in particular) recovers from the recession. One way or another the picture should be much clearer by the end of 2011.
Dec 19, 2010 at 10:14 p.m.
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seriously,
there is no news to write about, so the gazette continues to kick a already burried dead dog
Dec 19, 2010 at 9:27 p.m.
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Generalissimo Francisco Franco is *still* dead.
Dec 19, 2010 at 9:02 p.m.
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It's just a matter of time before Janesville resumes building one of America's finest vehicles. The question is 'which one' will we get to build next?
Dec 19, 2010 at 8:35 p.m.
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This is just that dangle the carrot in front of your face article.
Dec 19, 2010 at 8:12 p.m.
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GM is not coming back.......time to move on!
Dec 19, 2010 at 7:33 p.m.
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The cost associated with transforming that property in to something besides a car manufacturing facility is going to be gargantuan, and that's IF GM decides it no longer wants to own it.
If GM doesn't reopen it, more than likely it will take decades to clean up and transform, if it really ever happens. If you want to see what happens to towns when major manufacturers leave, look to Michigan and Ohio.
I understand holding out hope that GM will ramp up again, and that isn't impossible. However, I would abandon hope that it will ever be used for anything else, realistically speaking.
Dec 19, 2010 at 7:22 p.m.
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Let's move on from the GM coming back idea and get a stable company in this city that will provide jobs and keep them here.
Dec 19, 2010 at 7:20 p.m.
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Hopefully they can find something to do with it that will bring jobs to the area
Dec 19, 2010 at 5:39 p.m.
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How many sheets of ice could we put in it?
Dec 19, 2010 at 5:25 p.m.
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"Very dark, very cold, very spooky" The plant has been described in those words even when it was in the swing of production.
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