This is my favorite.
Semi does uturn at 14&26!!!!

So true about people attempting to pass other drivers on streets that have a solid dividing line, even on busy city streets.
Same goes for people attempting to make right-hand turns at stops where a right turn lane is not marked. This is illegal, and a chronic problem.

I have one more driving tip. Just because the road is wide and has a crack down the center doesn't mean it has TWO lanes! If there were two lanes you would see PAINT on the road. You don't use this area to pass people! You don't drive over there you drive towards the center of the road! I see this on 26 coming into Milton all the time.

Also a SOLID line means to not cross! This example is by the post office. There is a solid line there. STAY IN YOUR LANE! Dotted lines mean you can cross them!

Oh, are you out of "blinker fluid"?? You have blinkers USE THEM!

This is why I90 is as close as I come to Janesville. If I could bypass it totally, I would... I spent some time talking to my dear advisor today, and he informed me, that we all may say we want away from socialization and want capitalization, but when faced with it, we get mad... When explained what each meant, I now see that I have no idea what the flip I truely want! I don't think too many of us know the TRUE difference between the two... Hey, if Janesville wants to be Capitalists, more power, but please understand that it means freedom from the governemnt aid!!! along with other 'freedoms', both positive and negative!

"Do you think we should pay P.E., health, Family and Consumer ED, band, and industrail tech teachers the same as English, math, and science teachers?"
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No, they're all teaching a topic they're educated in to students indoors. No teacher encounters more risk or danger than another based on the topic they teach.
With firefighters, however, you could pay one rate to firefighters for responding to, say, a building fire, and another rate for responding to an auto accident or a fallen tree. Those are different tasks performed by the same professionals in different settings that offer varied risk or danger.
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"And, do you feel we should pay teachers in more tougher (more poverty and crime) communities than districts who do not experience these concerns?"
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Can you show that such crime on the streets enters the classroom in "tougher" areas? That the act of teaching is in itself more dangerous? Otherwise, the area a teacher lives in/commutes through is optional and is not a part of the paid job performance.

This is just nuts.

Well GM has gone, so now chase away revenue from out o town spenders. that should help the economy.

Is this next? http://cbs13.com/local/tracy.911.calls.2...

That will teach those darn non residents for coming into janesville. If you want to do business, do it in your own town. ????

We live outside the City limits, but own a business and real estate (that we of course pay taxes on) in Janesville. We consider Janesville our hometown and drive in daily for many reasons. Now as non-resident, although we pay a ton of taxes to the City, we are subject to a new fee. Thanks City of Janesville. Great doing business here.....sarcasm

I will save you $10,000. DON'T do it! Fix the old one. How much did we pay for people to come up with the 1.5 mil figure for fixing it?

Didn't they already discuss and say no meeting at 6:30 or is this another issue that we pay a consultant $thousands to look at and take 4 months to figure out?

bobb- that was my thoughts. Oh we cannot afford to go to the million dollar ice rink in case we get into a crash! We wont risk it!

Nemisis- it isn't a tax increase . It is a FEE. See politician lingo! No new taxes! Just a s$$%load of "FEES"

Garbage fee, crash fee, house burning down fee. The tax will only cover the cost to have them come to work every day. The fee will cover of they actually do work for us.(Sorry I am not being mean to the service people-just making a point)

sysco-kid- illegals will not have to pay because they don't have a licence. They get away with everything else because they are "illegals" sorry undocumented.

inconvenienttruth- that is silly comment. They need to be there and ready to move. I believe 4 minutes to the scene is the goal. Hope you life is never on the edge. They certainly don't finish their "dinner" before they go! If they are at home and need to be on call and then respond crucial time will be lost. Do you want it to be you? I don't want it to be me!

The one AT FAULT should pay, any other way is completely ASSININE.

And, do you feel we should pay teachers more in tougher ( more poverty and crime) communities than districts who do not experience these concerns?

What if the stupid Janesville driver hits them?
What if two out of towners hit each other? Do they split it?
Yes WE HAVE stupid, UNLICENCED, ignoring traffic light, on their darn cell phones, drivers.

People read your books.
Stay in YOUR lane when turning in a multi lane turning lane. Try this in big city and you will be knocked off the road.

You cannot do lane change IN the INTERSECTION!

I swear a test needs to be taken when you renew your licence.

When you MERGE onto a highway it is YOUR job to find a place to merge in. Not for the people on the highway to speed up or slow down so we don't hit you!

Shall I go on?

"Different types of calls could warrant different rates of pay."

I think you bring up a great point ICT.

I do not want to get off topic but what do you (ICT) think of applying your point to teacher compensation? Do you think we should pay P.E., health, Family and Consumer ED, band, and industrail tech teachers the same as English, math, and science teachers?

And, do you feel we should pay teachers in more tougher ( more poverty and crime) communities than districts who do not experience these concerns?

Complainers may donate extra taxes to the city, if they prefer.

So, if a non-resident is involved in an accident with a resident in Janesville, and it was the resident's fault, the non-resident will STILL pay the $500/$600 fee, because the council members decided fault shouldn't matter? I just don't think that sounds fair. We come to Janesville from Evansville for everything, and no matter how carefully I drive when there, I will still end up paying out if I'm in an accident that wasn't my fault.

Apart from the obvious in stopping the spending on things like a consultant hired to buy time for a futile attempt to raise funds for an unnecessary and overpriced ice rink, would some cuts to government departments really be so bad? Maybe we should look at reducing/restructuring pay for firefighters. If they're not out responding to an emergency, they don't need to be paid the same amount for cooking dinner at the fire station. Different types of calls could warrant different rates of pay. They'd still have their government jobs and benefits in an economy where many of the people whose calls they respond to are living on unemployment or menial part-time jobs. Otherwise, we could always resort to lay-offs. If what we pay in taxes can't cover services we have, and we don't want to raise taxes, we shouldn't get to keep what they can't pay for.

I live in the township of center. last yr we had xxxx.(leaving out names of depts) FD come out for a chimney Fire ( my husband had it out)well another towns FD got here 1st about 7 minutes later xxx dept got here.(they are our dept). They used these heat guns to make sure no fire in walls they didn't work had issues with them. after all said and done they asked for Insurance company. (our fire dept.) a month later i got a bill for 300.00 from them...I am not going to pay this i dont think its fair they charged us when a town that is even farther away got here 1st with equipment that worked.I understand charging but... If your the 1st on scene and with stuff that worked i wouldnt have had any issues in paying this charge. and the other dept didnt send us a bill for the use of there equipment that worked.

I like in_my_opinion's ideas about the tollways... everyone must pay to walk out their doors, get into their car, start the car, back out of your drive ways, and pay double for every 5 feet you drive... til you hit Beloit... But you can't stay in Beloit because we don't want the oh-so-poor-us whining GMers here... Get over it and move on already... BTW Janesville, better post a sign of your new little 'fees' or get ready to lose good money in court battles for indifference and racism for being from out of town!!!

$10,000 to study the Ice arena? We already know it is junk! If we are just going to blow $10,000 just give it to them towards a new one. Come on here what are they thinking.

I don't think it's that big of a request but I do think it's pretty arrogant to ask it.

malky15...

....The Gazette made a request of the city council to change the start time of the council meetings....NOT to re-write all the ordinance the city has.

Do you REALLY think that was that big or major of a request?

And no...I don't work for the Gazette....last time I had any monetary connection to the Gazette was in the early 1970s...when I had a paper route.

This would work same as when the tow truck goes, you get charged no matter whether you are at fault or not. If it is he other guys fault you can recover the fee same as any other out of pocket costs you have.

..not this wild west crap where a cop gets to be judge and jury right on the spot..Thats complete BS.

bobb- Whatever a court determines the fault to be which is the way "fault" should be determined.

If city's would charge people as they are thinking for all these different thing's look out when you go some where else.they could do the same

That's ok when we stop everybody from Janesville for going 2-3 over and fine them. It will work it self out. So watch your speed when you drive threw my town Janesville. You all knew the cash was going to stop some day, but nobody knows how save.

I think this was the right move.
Just as I have no problem for Milton or any other jurisdiction to charge for their services.

Residents pay via taxes...non-residents pay via user fees.

Works for me.

This is a good thing..After all, why should taxpayers pay for irresponsible people causing wrecks???
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BUT, a court should determine who is AT FAULT in the wreck or else its just a wild west notion of grabbing some out-of-towner by the neck and saying "PAY".....The one AT FAULT needs to pay!!!

As a Milton resident 4 miles away from J-ville, I propose we put a tollbooth at our city limit to recoop any money that our citizens might have to pay out if they are unfortionate enough to get in an accident while running errands or spending money in J-ville. SOUND INSANE? That's because it is. It's just as insane as charging non-city residents this fee. The surrounding cities, which are in the same county, rely on a lot of businesses in J-ville to meet our needs. Maybe, we should all consider heading in the opposite direction of J-ville. Everywhere you turn these days, you hear about budget shortfalls, cuts, increasing revenue, and helping your neighbors so we all get through this. Well, J-ville obviously decided to play "screw your neighbor" on this one and go straight for "self-preservation".

Just where do you live bobb? The reason I am asking is because you comment on just about every article as if it affects you personally, no matter which city or jurisdiction is affected.

I.E. If you live in Beloit but comment as if you live in Janesville ("If My home is not repoed ( so far hanging on),taxes,"fees" dont force me out i may have to move to just escape the crazys (city council).) your credibility is suspect.


Just trying to figure out how much credence to assign your' posts'.

yeah I guess because other small towns charge already we should follow them and charge to. I would like the see them make cuts first before raising fees but they are already streamlined right?

Govt vehicles (village, town, county and city) are all insured. And unless the ordinance has spells out they are exempt, they would be charged like non-residents.
Everyone get a P.O. box at the Janesville Post Office.

Most small towns are already doing this. Some don't even charge a flat fee such as $500. Some places it depends on the number of trucks they send out and the number of firefighters that are sent out. Unfortunantly it is just a sign of the times. If there isn't enough revenue than other cuts are being made. I know if I ever need the FD, I want them to have equipment that is not worn out and is reliable. That is where alot of cuts are being made.

bobb1951, I assume you are not volunteering to have your property taxes raised.
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Revenues are dropping, because of the recession, and because of GM. The city has to start getting creative if services are to be maintained. This isn't ideal but I don't envy the council their limited choices.

Maybe the Gazette should just re-write all the ordinances to suit their needs.

That's a different tax and you know it. Well, maybe not considering you said it.

I thought Obama said 95% Americans would not see a tax increase - then what is this?