rhc0715--"It's a different argument because Native people are STILL discriminated against today and have been since everyone began immigrating here." I agree, they are still discriminated against. They are the only ones that have to spearfish. They are the only ones that have to open gambling casinos and generate so much money they can pay every Indian of that particular tribe a monthly stipend that makes my wages look like chump change. As for your statement "Indians didn't assimilate into the majority population like the Irish or other groups that faced direct discrimination like the Jewish population." Why haven't they? Every other race/ethnic group has managed to do so including the blacks and with much greater discrimination than Indians have faced in years.

SarahB1- I don't recall where I said I wasn't "afraid" of you.

I wrote "right back atcha because some of us don't agree with your comments but we don't write is so rudely. Like I said we cannot all agree 100% of the time.
"I guess everyone has a right to his/her own opinion, even if that opinion is lacking."

"Can you direct me to surveys, polls, research that point this out. This is news to me and if what you say is true, I would likely take a difference stance on this issue. Please show me where to find the data. Thanks in advance."
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Sarah: I don't have any real data for you other then anecdotal data. It's unlikely that such data even exists. I am only going by dealings I have had with a member of the Mohican tribe. The original Mohicans were from the Hudson river region of NY, and when the settlers kicked them out of there, they migrated to NE Wisconsin in the Fox valley region of the state. Mohican means "people of the river", and very few exist today. A business partner, and myself, ran across one a long time ago when the Fox valley greyhound track was open. We became very close with this gentleman, who was really quite a remarkable character that one really warmed up to quickly. When my partner and I bought a litter of racing dogs, we were at the race track, and asked the man if we could name the litter with the prefix "Mohican". At 1st; I thought he was offended, by the look he gave us, but he would be practically be brought to tears in telling us how much of an honor that would be to him, and his people.
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Not much for "evidence", I know, but a real life story nonetheless. A few of the dogs would end up at Fox valley, and the man was more excited about seeing them run then we often were. He'd always bet the dog, and share with us some stories about his people. It was really one of those special moments in life. Fox valley park closed down a few years later, and we would unfortunately never see the gentleman again. The prefix "Mohican" went on to be used in hundreds of racing greyhound names there after.

It won't be long and the term "political correctness" will be labeled hypersensitive and be frowned on to say...

kiowamohican wrote: "Yes; and what you will find is that most tribes have no problem with their name being used, and many are honored by the use of their name." Can you direct me to surveys, polls, research that point this out. This is news to me and if what you say is true, I would likely take a difference stance on this issue. Please show me where to find the data. Thanks in advance.

frogger: I was not referring to our difference of opinion on this subject. I was referring to your comment that you were not "afraid" of me and, later, your "back at ya" comment. Though I am not proud of it, I am a master at tearing apart anyone who takes me on. I am now going to retreat to my corner of the ring.

"3. Use of the name of culture/tribe/nationality within a given race as a team name should only be done with their consent. For example, Florida State should only use "Seminoles" if the Seminole nation was in favor of it. Again, there are European corollaries to this (e.g., Fighting Irish, Scots)."
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Yes; and what you will find is that most tribes have no problem with their name being used, and many are honored by the use of their name. As it often sheds new light on to the long, proud, culture of their great tribal name. The one or two who speak out with phony outrage, don't usually speak for the silent majority.

One more thing, if the world were more perfect place, people would just change these sorts of things on their own. We would not need legislatures wasting time on these sorts of things.

I don't think this is a "being overly PC" issue is as is just showing some respect for fellow mankind. I read this posting in another article on the subject and thought it was good:

"As a Native American, I would like to take the middle road with these guideline which don't give us (or any other culture or race) exceptional treatment.

1. Honorifics, such a Brave or Warrior, are ok. There are European corollaries to these names (Conquistadors, Knights, etc.) used in a similar manner. Regardless, the appearance of the mascot should always be respectful and accurate. For example, the Atlanta Braves should not illustrate a Brave in a stereotypical or derogatory fashion; they should consult with Native Americans on this. Also, behaviors such as the "tomahawk chop" should be denounced by these teams as racist and demeaning.

2. Use of a term for an entire race (e.g., Indians, Redskins, Redmen) should be relegated to history. I can't think of any other race treated in this manner.

3. Use of the name of culture/tribe/nationality within a given race as a team name should only be done with their consent. For example, Florida State should only use "Seminoles" if the Seminole nation was in favor of it. Again, there are European corollaries to this (e.g., Fighting Irish, Scots)."

It's just like a child who had been beaten as a child. Should that child use that as a vice everytime they think they need a little extra help or attention? You deal and move on. Obviously with all this dedicated history garbage, the past is never going to be where it belongs, in the past.

just keep on enabling the poor picked on me's. I swear, this country keeps screaming equality, but at the same time keeps the wounds open by bringing up stupid sh*t like this that has nothing to do with anything but an ego. Many people who scream predgadism (sp) and what to be treated equal are the ones them selves quilty of remaining victims.....LET IT GO! Is this really hurting ANYONE??????? Boy the guilt factor of what happened a million years ago, needs to be let go and everyone just needs to regroup. Many of todays so called 'minorities' (and yes, whites are quickly becoming among those minorities) wouldn't have a clue how their ancestors 'used' to be treated if their environment didn't supply them with those horrific stories. I personally would want my child to grow up with a strong will and a feeling of placement in society, not entitlement.

SarahB1- I guess all the others that don't agree with you are out of their league too?
http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/latest-ne...

This was passed- unbelievable. Do we have any new jobs yet?

It's really telling how many are saying that this issue is "unimportant".

Wasp, George Preston Marshall?! Are you serious?! He was one of the biggest bigots and racists that the sports world has ever seen! He instituted a color barrier for black players in the NFL for many years and as owner of the Redskins was the last team to finally include black ball players on his team. The year? 1962! He only did it after the Kennedy administration threatened to cancel his stadium lease.

I suggest you pick a better example than this megalomaniac narrow minded person.

I may soon be banned from this blog. My name may be deemed by the elitist central powers; as offensive to the great Kiowa and Mohican tribes!

With the dwindling American Indian population, one would think that they would want to keep as many of these reminders of their heritage as posssible.

Showing dignity and respect for fellow humans is not political correctness. Our legislators are doing the right thing.

whythink,

Whether YOU consider the symbolism of the mascots offensive or not is not the issue. As I wrote "it's your prerogative to take offense at just about anything, and it's the prerogative of others to reject your complaint if they believe it's unjustified."

I believe its unjustified. Where does this end?

Thousands of geographical names, of our rivers, rocks and rills, our fruited plains and templed hills, are of Indian origin. So are the names of half the states. If commemorating Indian bravery by calling a mascot by Indian names is offensive, how much more offensive to call entire states, the largest rivers and hundreds of whole cities and towns, with all their evil-doers, by Indian names?

I thought that this was the land of the free! Now you have government telling you what you can and can't name a school mascot. What next!

Are you kidding me?! There are more important issues out there than to start nit-picking at school mascot names!

Coach Dietz was the 14th head college football coach for the Washington State University Cougars located in Pullman, Washington and he held that position for three seasons, from 1915 until 1917.[1][2] His coaching record at Washington State was 17 wins, 2 losses, and 1 tie. As of the conclusion of the 2007 season, this ranks him eighth at Washington State in total wins and third at Washington State in winning percentage (0.875). [3] He also led Washington State to its only Rose Bowl Game win in 1916. Dietz also coached at Purdue University and the University of Wyoming, among other schools.

George Preston Marshall, owner and founder of the Boston Braves, sought to rename the franchise after leaving the stadium they shared with the baseball team of the same name. He chose the name Redskins in honor of Dietz, who is of the Sioux Nation.

Does this mean GM is not coming back?

frogger: You should back down right now; you are out of your league.

Big Brother isum you know what's next

Being of Norwegian ancestry I am appalled by the Parker Vikings name.My grandad Leif would recommend changing the name to the Mad Hatters.
Please contact your representative.

Don't forget Chevy Cheyenne

I don't think the state should force localities to change their school mascot. I'm against laws that continue to increase the state's power at the expense of our liberty (the right to be left alone).

I'm offended that people are offended.
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rhc0715 - you may want to look up a bit of Irish history, especially the bit when the English show up.

MAybe they can change it to somebodies big left foot.

I think it is stupid. If I were Indian I would be proud of my heritage and would be honored if somebody used me as a Mascot.

I am wondering WHO has the problem with this. Is it Indians(doubt it). Maybe some rich white guy who thinks he deserves his name there instead? Maybe some stupid white guys that don't think Indian people are worth anything and shouldn't be honored.
So WHO has the issue anyway?

Couchsit-I understand what you are saying but how about this- BRAVERY, wont back down, STRONG, perseverance, these all all good things and you should be scared of a team they may have these assets to KICK YOUR BUTT on any field! Sorry I don't fear a blue bird, maybe a Blue Jay but not a Blue Bird.

SarahB1- you cannot please everyone. So when one mascot offends ONE person and we change it. The next one will offend me so change it again. 82 % said this is silly. So no charge for the 18 %!
Like I said "blue birds "offend" me and I am certainly not scared of you.

To bad the Cougars don't have a voice box. I am sure they would be offended because maybe they are really just nice kitties and never would be mean to survive!

I am sure you will find some mascots carved in the walls of the grand canyon BY Indians. Should we get rid of those too?

SarahB1- "I guess everyone has a right to his/her own opinion, even if that opinion is lacking."

Right back atcha!

Are Indians called redskins because they called each other this? Just wondering. If so why is in not okay for anybody to use the same terms they do? Unless it is like Black People. If anybody called them n... they would have a cow but they call each other this an it is okay. Matter of fact it is COOL. I wouldn't use that term because it does sound bad so why would they talk to each other that way?

Go up north and see what great traditions they have on the reservations. The only tradition I see that is still passed down is knowing what day the postman will deliver the monthly check.

Oh wait.....glad we are spending so much time and $$ on this....there aren't problems like kids dying or people without jobs to worry about.

My grandmother was cherokee but sadly she passed away before I was 2 so I never got to know her or the ways of our people. I think I would have found it very interesting.
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On another note when we moved here and my children were younger my son had an assignment to fill in his family heritage and when I told him Cherokee and he listed it he was told no that is not what they want, they want to know where your family immigrated from. Hello? I found that quite offensive, granted my husband has Irish and German but for me my side is Cherokee and (hillbilly) on one side and possibly Dutch and another distant relation to an Indian tribe on my mother's side but can't recall what tribe. I am proud of my heritage.

I see gray here. Indian mascots differ. Warriors, Braves...proud names.
Redskins, redman describe the skin, not the behavior. Is ridding of these with a total crackdown needed? Probably not, (and I'm Progressive).

How about vehicle names - Jeep Cherokee???

Yeah, like they do in New York City - PS1, PS2, PS3. . . . . .

For the sake of no offense to others and to truly prepare our children for the future ahead of them, lets just take all of the names away and issue every school a unique number. Make sure it is standardized and spend a lot of time to make sure that we are fair about issuing these numbers so that no one is slighted. I would hate to have someone upset because they should have a lower number that someone else or vice versa. Ultimately this is the future for our children and they need to learn it before they graduate they are just numbers.

We have military weaponry we use that have Inadian names? Should we rename all of them?

Tomahawk missle

Apache helicopter

Blackhawk helicopter

Comanche

Iroqouis

Cheyenne

Kiowa

My grandparents were forced from Europe by the Nazis. I am offended by the sign of the swatstika, and that is freedom of expression now.
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I'm kind of on the fence on this.

Parker and Stoughton are sunk if Norway starts talking, Craig too if kitty cats let their voice be heard

There is a HUGE difference between naming something after Natives and having a mascot/logo associated with Native people. People disrespect Natives by mocking them during sporting events when someone comes out dressed up as a "Chief." It's about people painting their faces and trying to be the "mean" Indian and the stereotypes and misunderstandings that are constantly passed down from these events. It's the activities and misrepresentations associated with mascots, things that don't occur when you simply name something like a street or park.

carlitosway,
I know my history, I know that many groups of people in the US faced discrimination. I didn't say they didn't face hard times, I said their people weren't subjected to mass genocide. It's a different argument because Native people are STILL discriminated against today and have been since everyone began immigrating here. Indians didn't assimilate into the majority population like the Irish or other groups that faced direct discrimination like the Jewish population.

I am offended by cities named Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Antonio, Amarillo, Los Gatos, Palo Alto, Sacramento. Too Spanish and not American enough.

bigdaddy1: Slow down before you get yourself in trouble.

If that's the case do away with Towns named after them. The county north of here should be changed then. We the white man needs somebody like Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton I think that's how you spell his name, to stand up for are rights. If not we will riot.

I guess everyone has a right to his/her own opinion, even if that opinion is lacking.

To have something named after you for what you stand for would be an honor not an insult more so with a schools. As far as some names Chief, it is not a select tribal name it is a common word for leader some one in charge.rhc needs to read his/her history as to the Irish being discriminated against and mentally and physically brutalized and the actual beginning of slavory They will find the Irish to be the first. If it isn't one thing it is another thing for different groups of people to find fault with a majority of Americans choices and decisions. A new day different demand and complaint. If they want it removed from schools then remove the names from cities, islands, bridges, roads/streets and anything else that has an Indian reference to it then down the road we won't have to have this issue brought up again. Having an Indian name for a positive thing should be considered an honor not an insult, but then some people and some groups just plain have to have something to complain about. This is just my opinion!!!!!

Change the name's of every thing so it dose not sound NATIVE AMERICAN

"Big Foot" is no more a "mascot" for the high school or state park than "Kishwauketoe" is a mascot for the nature conservancy. These namesakes are honors, as are streets or schools named "Washington", "Jefferson" or "Lincoln".

In the cases of "Big Foot" and "Kishwauketoe", I especially like the idea of having a constant public reminder of the peoples whose homelands were confiscated at gunpoint.

Imagine going to a football game against a team called the "Saviors" and at halftime they bring out a student dressed in a loincloth and have a mock crucifixion on the goalpost. Would you be offended or honored by this? If this were a public school would you demand they change their mascot even though it would break a 60 year tradition?

After reading a lot of these posts it is clear that our school districts need to improve their history and cultural curricula. I am astounded at the ignorance and insensitivity here.

I am not sure I like a school named after pillagers and rapists (vikings) or any mascot that singles out any group of people. I do not know the history of the "fighting Irish" but I wonder if this was before or after the era when the Irish were violently discriminated against in this country. I suspect this was a matter of the Irish naming themselves. (don't forget, at one point not so long ago, Catholics were looked down upon in this "protestant" country.)

This is the crux of the matter. Any group of people should be allowed to call themselves what THEY want to be called. Anyone else should ask permission to use that name for something else.

Try to extend your thinking to imagine what it must be like to be a part of a people whose not so distant ancestors were murdered because of who they were and forced into concentration camps (called reservations) where your only hope was to depend on this government that stole your lands and killed your people or to assimilate into the very heart of the people that murdered your relatives and treated you like dirt.

For the one who is "part Cherokee" I have to ask, does this include an Indian Princess? How often do we hear that. Yes, you may be decended from Cherokee but how much of it have you lived? Do you even know your people? Just because you have the blood doesn't mean much at all if you have no knowledge of your people. And you have to ask yourself, how much has this colonialism played a part in the fact that you do not know your people?

Please, people, THINK.

I would find some of these comments more acceptable if I'd never taken a Native American issues course while in graduate school at UW-Madison. It was taught by Ada Deer and helped me to see all sides of this and other issues. Among other teaching materials, we watched a powerful Frontline video about this mascot issue. It featured Native Americans across the country speaking their opinions of the issue vs. University of Illinois' mascot Chief Illiniwek (beloved by that university's chancellors, fundraisers, alumi, and students). The mascot's supporters were given equal time in the video. Their arguments to save the Chief were pointless once the Native Americans voiced their thoughts. I was glad to see that in 2007 the U of I finally caved into public and NCAA pressure and cast aside the mascot.

"It's about people feeling safe in schools and in their communities; and, mascots are highly offensive to, people who practice Native tradition, or any Native that understands how disrespectful and dishonorable the misuse of feathers and regalia are. It's a form of institutionalized racism that's widely accepted and brushed to the side because it's so normative."
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No, actually, what it's about is a bunch of dopey liberals like yourself who are out looking to be offended by anything and everything because you really have no life other than tilting and windmills like this. The way this crap legislation works is that it takes only one person to be offended for a school district to have to defend itself, and the way the bill is written the burden of proof is on the school district to prove that their mascot isn't racist and the decision will lie with one person within the state system. This is just another example of the squeaky wheel getting the grease.

It's about people feeling safe in schools and in their communities; and, mascots are highly offensive to, people who practice Native tradition, or any Native that understands how disrespectful and dishonorable the misuse of feathers and regalia are. It's a form of institutionalized racism that's widely accepted and brushed to the side because it's so normative.

I happen to be part Cherokee. I and my many family members do not find the use of Native American names or symbols to be the least offensive. I am really tired of all these "do gooders) who are normally not in any way connected with the group, or groups they say are being discriminated against. These people are just as obnoxious as the famous Annie Gaylor in Madison who files suit against any entity they may have used some religious wording or depiction in a public format. I say lets start an organization that targets do gooders and beat them to a pulp financially in court so we no longer have to put up with there whining attention getting schemes.

Sarah, the problem with that is there is a least one person which just about any mascot offends.

If someone says a mascot or logo offends them, then it should be removed. Why is that so hard for some of you to grasp? And why are so many of you so hooked on mascots from your high school days anyway? I, too, have my favorite teams from the area. If they have to change their mascots because someone or a group finds them racially offensive, then so be it. I am rooting for the school, not the mascot. On another note, I think it is weird to have a statue displaying a weapon that would get any kid expelled if brought onto school grounds.

My family was from Norway and never did the mascot, the Vikings, at Parker High School offend me. I just don't understand this political correctness and I hope it goes away with the rest of the far left. If I were Indian (not Native American) I would be proud to have this as my school mascot.

American Indians are the ONLY race that's still widely caricaturized through popular culture today, whether it’s pro sports teams around the country or high schools down the road. To put it in perspective, here's some food for thought.
http://blogs.citypages.com/sports/images...
It's different than names like the "Vikings" or the "Irish" because those weren't groups of people that had mass genocide committed against them. They are also the majority population now that face little to no discrimination.
There is a reason why this is being taken to a state level. Communities and school boards in northern Wisconsin have proven that they can't handle this issue within their local governments. The people that have tried to address it reasonably have had to deal with personal threats, harassment, and vandalism, some of that coming from actual members of the school board.
Communities that aren't having problems with the logos are communities that don't have Indian populations, or large ones at least. Honestly, if this Bill passes, it probably won't affect those communities like Big Foot and Fort Atkinson. Not saying I'm in support of them, but that's just the way the Bill is written.
I'm sure the people in Walworth and Fort Atkinson meant well, but mascots have a stigma attached to them with what's supposed to be fierce and intimidating; that's what most students associate them with.
In high school someone told me, "No you're not native, where are your feathers and tomahawk?" This is hurtful but not unusual. I know people who are middle aged and a few decades ago when they were in high school, they were ashamed of their culture because of the misrepresentations that high school mascots and names gave them. There are still students today in this situation. NO ONE should ever feel ashamed to go to school. School is supposed to be a healthy environment where you feel safe, not the opposite.
Even if they are trying to "honor" Natives, you can't honor a people unless they think they're being honored. There was a documentary done titled "In Whose Honor?" that discussed the U of I's Indian mascot. School officials claimed to be honoring Indians, but they mocked things that are sacred practices and horribly misrepresented all Natives.
Students should learn about Native culture and history in the classroom, not from the image of their school's mascot. It’s mandatory that all K-12 students receive instruction about the 11 federally recognized tribes and 1 unrecognized tribe in the state, so there is no excuse for the use of an Indian mascot. Modern day Native peoples do not live in tepees and do not walk around with braided feathered hair. If anything, schools should be teaching their students what modern Native culture is like.
Here's a link to the Bill and some really good testimonies. Scroll down to the date 2.24.10
http://www.wiseye.org/wisEye_programming...
- A Concerned Indian

Another example of a minority raising a stupid issue that insults no one.
This is CRAP.....

couchsit: Use your head when trying to prove a point, you think it's an insult to the indians when a tribes name is used? .... maybe you're one that thinks we shouldn't say Merry Christmas either?

Terms like "Vikings", "Knights" do not directly represent a race, and when they do (like "Fighting Irish"), they usually represent the namer's own heritage. I guess I am not a sentimental person so I don't see the big deal in changing a school name that the majority of the named party finds offensive.
The changes may actually spur the economy. New T-Shirts, memorabilia and such can be produced and sold. People sentimental for the old name will buy up all the stuff already made as collectors items.
Justaguy, the casino is named after their own tribe. What if the Indians started a casino called "crackers" or "WASP's"?
I'm surprised someone hasn't brought up this yet to support their pro Indian mascot position: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fightin_Whi...

Do you think they will do this to Ho Chunk, make them change their name?, or any of the other run by indians ... I bet not.

TCB,
I consider myself a reasonable person and find SOME of the mascots offensive.
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I believe all throughout our history the people who fought for progress were thought by some to be "hypersensitive". Thankfully those "hypersensitive" folk kept fighting for what is RIGHT even if it didn't involve them.
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I wonder if the term political correctness was used to define those fighting against separate but equal, or the right to vote for women. OR the many other WRONGS created by the majority that fail to realize at times they F up and should man up and correct it.
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I challenge you to read this article.
http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~rjensen/freela...
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The more I think about this issue the more I realize being silent on it is WRONG.
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I find it ironic that many of those believing this country is NOW heading in a wrong economic direction don't hold it to nearly as high of a moral standard. Issues like this, torture, war, bankruptcy b/c of health care costs, no-bid contracts, etc... are fine but tax the rich or get the government involved in fixing health insurance and they are "scared" of the future of this country.
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WEIRD!

Big foot school administrators and other so called "officials" should focus on increasing graduation rates and improving test scores. The nicknames of high school or collegiate sports teams and their mascots have no duty to be all-inclusive, diverse or to indulge liberal guilt.

The foundation of political correctness is the accommodation of unreasonable grievances, like this one, and the false premise that hypersensitive individuals and groups possess some inalienable right to be protected from any kind of speech or expression that might conceivably offend them. Hey, it's your prerogative to take offense at just about anything, and it's the prerogative of others to reject your complaint if they believe it's unjustified. There's a difference between subjective hypersensitivity and something that's objectively offensive to reasonable people why cant these officials see this?

I really don't know if this theory is correct or not, but it could be possible that the people naming these mascots way back when considered Indians to be on par with "scary intimidating animals meant to create fear in your opponent". If that is true, it is quite insulting. As far as history goes, there are far better ways of honoring American Indian history. If it is about school history, these nicknames/mascots have probably only been used for the last 100 years or so, which is not really a long time when you think about it.

I really have to imagine that the legislature has better things to do than worry about this.
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That being said, I remember when this happened in Milton. I graduated when we were still the Redmen, and it was hard to swallow the name change at first. But looking back, it was probably the right thing to do.

It is a crying shame to want to take history away from these schools. What did I say? Yes, history. That logo is about history....

damn you and your logic janesvillean!!

Political correctness run amok. Throw these idiots out of office!

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"Indian" mascots and logos interfere with learning by creating, supporting and maintaining oversimplified, and inaccurate views of indigenous peoples and their cultures. Along with other societal abuses and stereotypes, "Indian" mascots and logos separate, marginalize, confuse, intimidate and harm American Indian children, thereby creating a barrier to learning and making the school an inhospitable place. Schools must be places where children are allowed equal opportunity to participate in learning. The use of "Indian" logo caricatures denies full and welcome participation to Wisconsin’s American Indian children, while at the same time teaching all Wisconsin school children to tolerate discrimination against Indian people, their heritage and cultures.
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Regardless of original intent, relative attractiveness, or degree of cherished attachment, an "Indian" logo and the school traditions that grow up around it present harmful stereotypes of living people and living cultures to students in the school environment. "Indian" logos do not honor Indian people; these logos are nothing more than outmoded, culturally demeaning symbols of oppression.
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http://www.indianmascots.com/

I am so glad that the legislature is focusing their efforts on the most important issue facing us here in Wisconsin. What a joke!

So long local control.....

How about the findings in Pennsylvainia? They have discovered artifacts that pre-date the arrival of people that became known as native americans in the US and Canada. These artifacts indicate that Europeans actually migrated somehow to areas on the east coast long before the so called native amaericans arrived.

Someone in government has a huge chip on their shoulder. They also have way too much time on their hands.
Many schools are already strapped for cash. Has anyone thought that if names are changed how much extra cost there will be to the individual schools/districts? I wonder if those who want the change(s) are the only ones who are willing pay for the cost to make the name change(s)? How do we know if naming schools after animals won't infuriate PETA?

there so worryed about discrimination how about taken all indian names away from towns, roads, parks,hey wait isn't this states name indain or a mix there of and how about the casinos but thats ok there doing it them selfs
people need to get a grip.But wait theres more lets not stop there how about the defacing of poor defenceless animals like bucky im sure you wont find many badgers running around in red sweaters.