dalegribble,

You really want a bunch of renters in town? Hope they move next to you. I can just see you now complaining because they won't cut their lawn in a timely fashion or that they turned the street into a dump. I got out of the area after college and won't look back but I do visit once a year and the city is looking worse and worse. Having a bunch of renters will not help your local economy a bit. And there is nothing currently to entice people to come settle in Janesville so good luck finding those renters.

TheJoker has spoken. This board is too negative. Well, here's something positive - Janesville is actually surviving quite well, with no signs of 'going-under'.

Being a "slave" to the almighty dollar will do this to people. It's what we're educated to be in this culture. Cold day in hell when I choose $$$ over TIME with my loved one's. Life's too short!

I am not crying, but then again I left Janesville in 1987.

What renters? Everyone is moving out of the area or they can't afford to pay the rent without a job. Which is why they are getting evicted. The unemployment extensions are running out soon. The GM transfers are going to be able to pay two mortgages, with their great wages, so I don't think you will be getting any of their homes dirt cheap, they have the same option as you, of renting them out. But then again many of them are smart enough to actually have them paid off or close to it. Good luck buddy!

Dale: Its people like you who got us into this housing problem. Go ahead and "leverage" your 2 houses, to buy 2 others. So you can get foreclosed on all four houses when you can't make payments. Good luck paying taxes on those houses too.

Sorry, I meant to everyone who... Don't want someone jumping me for typing the wrong word.

To everyone you claims GMers are cry babies: I just don't understand where you come up with this accusation. I do not hear one single GMer on any of these blogs crying. I get the impression that it is you (non-Gmers) who are doing the crying. And as for Gmers not being able to do any other job out there, or that they are idiots.....you are mistaken. I am currently going to school with plenty of GMers, LEAR, LSI, and other laid-off employees and many of them are straight A students. So before you start running your mouth about how stupid and lazy they are, perhaps you should look at the majority of these workers, instead of the select few who are lazy and are just waiting for something or someone to help them. Most are helping themselves and bettering their lives through education, so they can get a job, not a handout.

202003: and i'm guessing you are an under paid cry baby? and I know we can do without you.

dalegribble: Should I put my boots on now or is there more cr@p coming?

Gm workers are a bunch of overpaid cry babies and janesville is a better place without them! Good riddins!

the current date is May 3rd. they need this time to de rate the line speed from 72 jobs an hour to 60. they also have one week off something having to install some equipment. there is also talk of Flint POSSIBLY starting up to build the same trucks. they presently build the Heavy Duty crew cab and duallies.

I haven't heard too many bad things from those who've gone to Indiana from Janesville. It's not as though Janesville is the epicenter anything outstanding. There are bars in every town. Having a decent job in a new area helps quite a bit. Good luck to those who transfer. Make the best of a second opportunity. Save money just in case.

dalegribble: You sound like a very sad, sorry person, you must have nothing worth talking about. Have you always been so green with envy over the GM workers to make you sound so pathetic? I was thinking maybe you work at a fast food joint but that would only be putting those good workers down .... I think you need to get a life, or at least stop trying to knock others just to try to make yours look better .... you need help. JMO

To be happy for others.... you must first be happy with yourself.... no need to say anymore

We moved to Indiana in 86 from Janesville to a small town 22 miles from Fort Wayne, we have 4 star schools, friendly people, the people in the grocery stores know you,drug stores, banks know your name. Can go to Fort Wayne to shows, out to eat or go to Indy, So much to do. Wecome GM from Wisconsin,it is not a bad place to live.

dalegribble: The more you type the more stupid you sound ... JMO

copo if you read janesvillegirls post she is NOT A EX GM EMPLOYEE.
You all say you are tired of hearing about GM and their laid off workers well you know what I AM TIRED OF HEARING ALL OF YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT GM EMPLOYEES YOU ARE THE ONES DOING ALL THE COMPLAINING NOT THE LAID OF GMERS. And by the way I am not and ex GM worker either.

People are way too negative on this board and in Janesville in general. No wonder this city is in trouble.

janesvillegirl>how much more help do you need they gave you a whole xtra year more unemployment benifits,besides if you banked some of your overcompensation instead of blowing it on $65,000 dollar tahoes mabe you wouldent be crying for more goverment unemployment help,i got laid off three years ago i got like 22 weeks of unemployment thats it .no buy out no health insurance no severance package and i spent over $25,000 dollars for my education to get a good job.decent employment wasent my "birth rite"

ghostface: Not everyone from GM has a shiny new vehicle sitting at the job center, I have a shiny Tahoe but I cannot sell it for the life of me. Would you suggest I just scrap it??? BTW I am not an ex GM worker nor are my relatives, just another displaced worker in Janesville. Would move but cant sell the house either. I could just declare bankruptcy and let someone else worry about it but that is not the style of many people here. Trying to make the best of it, keep up with the bills we have not not incur anymore debt, which means no more discretionary income to spend at the mall or restaurants, oh boy more unemployment in Janesville. Paul Ryan, Russ Feingold, Gov. Doyle, where are you now??? Paul Ryan here is a challenge to you, help your hometown!!! Call the Gazette, let them know what you are doing for us since you are supposed to represent us and our interests.

Probably the last time that happened. I know because I've known many GM'ers over many years and they all told me the same thing.

burbanmom - That was 24 years ago. Um... never mind.
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Maybe some of those people wouldn't have left prior to break time if they had open employment instead of the "keep it in the family" gig.

bobb1951: who's doing the crying? sounds like it's you. I'm sure tho if you had been working there you'd be crying a diff tune, you are a sad person bashing people who have lost their jobs or that are transfering to a new one.

Fort Wayne, IN a great place to live and one of the best in the Midwest. Contrary to a former comment Allen County is far from "rural" as Fort Wayne, IN is the 2nd largest city in the state and has some of the best school districts in the state. Welcome Wisconsinites!

juststoppingby> nobody said gm workers dont work hard,i think their overcompensation drove prices up on cars and trucks...common $65,000 for a tahoe only gm workers can afford this price tag,and when they become unemployed the goverment catters to their unemployment needs. i am a graduate of whyoming tech with plenty of training and certifacations over the last 25 years i went through extremes to try to get my foot in the door at gm,they preferd to hire non skilled gm family members

good luck to those leaving. i may soon be joining you. and no, they haven't said the plant is on "closed" status. its still on "stand by"

PBRMan and Anotherdoor - You're both 100% correct. I was summer help back in the summer of '97. I don't understand where people get the "lazy GM worker" idea - because that is just not the case.

From what I saw, everyone (full timers and summer help alike) busted their tails on a daily basis in extreme heat. It was, by far, the most difficult job I've ever had; and yes, there were a few of my summer help comrades who never came back after lunch on the first day!

After my 89 days, I was very happy that I got leave that place and move back up to college.

swiss chick back in 86 i remember gm taking apps at blackhawk tech it didn't matter if you had a relative there or not and alot of people hired in not just people with ties to the plant

Ft Wayne is a nice area. Schools (NW / SW) are the ones to look at. Just be ready for the 2 hour fog and snow delays.

I agree with Swiss Chick..Just doesn't happen..

Does this mean GM is not coming back to Janesville?

PBRMan, remember how many times the summer help bailed by first break, or didn't come back after lunch?

PBRMAN....all it takes is time and almost ANYONE can get used to anything. There is always someone who does a harder job then the next guy. Besides thats why autoworkers have better benefits and sometimes better pay then alot of healthcare workers. Wierd how that works. Speaking of new truck sales... anyone want to tell me how you can be at the janesville job center unemployed looking for work, applying for food stamps, etc....but yet still drive a NEW vehicle sometimes with a boat in tow?? I go often just to use the computer service they offer to be on the lookout for new jobs and i can always tell when the "guys from the plant" are there. Always shinier in that parking lot on those days.

People don't really have a chance of working there unless your mother, father, sister, brother, aunt, uncle, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, niece, nephew, etc., etc., works there as current workers give out employment applications to their family members. GM doesn't really have open employment with an ad in the paper or have jobs posted at the Job Center. So chances of an "outsider" getting work there is pretty low.

copo9561 - LOL. That is often what people think until they actually have to do it. I would start to practice by standing 10 hours on your feet on concrete. When you have that down, next work on bending over for extended periods holding something around 15lbs. BTW, do these 2 things with your stereo blasting noise around 80-100 dba. If you get the chance, snort some machine oil mist for about 9 1/2 hours and take note of any reactions. If you can heat your house to around 114f when doing all of this, it will help you prepare for the summer heat, but only take an extra 5 minute break if it is above 114. Have to keep it real. You do all of this in preparation, you might make it past the first day....

i am not a laid off gm worker but "can i put my name on a list" for work, i bet my left leg i can do most jobs on that line better faster then most of the laid off/working gm primma donnas.

Over 1200 people transfered from Janesville to Fort Wayne back in 1986 and 1987 when the plant opened. As an original transfer I join the leadership of Local 2209 in welcoming our brothers and sisters to Fort Wayne. Like Janesville, it is a great place to live and raise a family. It is also easy to find, just go to Chicago and turn left. Seriously, as a veteran of 23 years of driving back and forth, a word of warning to those of you who will be commuting - slow down and be careful on your drive. I would also advise you to avoid the morning and afternoon rush hours whenever possible.
GM is currently building pick up trucks at 3 locations. We build the regular and extended cabs and are retooling to be able to produce the 3/4 and 1 ton HD trucks here in Ft. Wayne. Flint MI builds the 4 door and regular cab 1/2 ton and HD trucks. Silao, Mexico also builds trucks, but as per the Government loan agreement GM cannot import vehicles that are also built in the US unless the US plant(s) building that product are operating at "full capacity". Those conditions, closed plants, and an uptick in demand are driving the addition of a third shift here in Ft. Wayne. We feel blessed to be working, although it is with regret in respect to our laid off co-workers at our closed sister plants in Pontiac, MI and Oshawa Ont.

helge - that is the plan, then you WILL need the assistance of the government for everything. It is the master plan of socialism...

Every one will be working for $2.50 a hr.In this country if some people in office have there way

bobb1951 - he we go again with the "woe is me" routine. You had just as much opportunity to work there as anybody else, and you chose not to. Quit looking for the handouts, and put yourself in a position to be wanted for employment instead of waiting for the government to "bail" you out....

you know when and if gm reopens the janesville plant i wonder how many of these bashers will be the first ones in line looking for a job this could get interesting

I would suggest that perhaps other than GM "crybabies" should pursue the job opportunities of the greater Ft. Wayne area...or elsewhere.

Depends what your definition of "is" is.

Ya, "GM" is no more an American company anymore than Toyota or Nissan is and hasn't been since the early 80's.

"almost 1400 blogs in less then a year,"

justsaynotomath...I will give you credit for truth in advertising...you're true to your' name. LOL

Less than a year? Better go back and refigure.
Maybe it's time for you to say yes to math...LOL

Don't worry JohnDoe, if you read back through JSNTM's posts, she is extremely bitter and hostile toward people she doesn't agree with. Lots of name calling and holier-than-thou attitude.

Best of luck to all the GM transfers!

My sister in law and family will be moving there as soon as they can sell their home here. Might take a few years in this market....

They both said that the Fort Wayne area is very nice and there are lots of small towns around with good schools to choose from. I wish them and all of the other transfers the best of luck. We will miss you!!!!!!!!!!

dalegribble: Sounds like it's you doing all the crying, People getting jobs and you piss and moan about it? Grow Up

It's amazing that people like JSNTM seem to get so riled up over something they claim doesn't affect them. LOL

They are adding a third shift because they closed the other plants that were producing trucks. Ft. Wayne is now the only plant producing full size trucks for GM, instead of 3 plants. They also moved a big truck product there. It isn't because people are buying more trucks, its because of plant closures.

It is really irrelevant what the cause of the drop in SUV sales was, although I think it had more to do with the collapse in home prices (as home equity loans were used to finance expensive vehicle purchases). The fact was that sales of SUVs collapsed. Regardless, gas prices peaked in July 2008 and have fallen 40% as of January 2010. To the extent that vehicle purchases are gas-price sensitive you would indeed expect a recovery in this class of sale.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum...

I think the impression of gas guzzlers being on their way out came from our Government telling us what we should do, when in reality the customer still has a need and want for them. Nobody can deny that number one and number two sellers in the U.S. are both full sized pickups.

Allen County is very rural. Flat as far as the eye can see. The GM plant is fenced in and they have their own herd of deer within the fenced area. I find it strange that there are more job openings down there, and that they are building big trucks. I was under the impression gas guzzlers were on their way out...

Expected to add another shift and 700 more jobs to a plant that builds full size pickups. Funny, I remember when many were quick to blame the dismantling of GM on the price of gas. Just proves that has very little to do with it. Trucks are still the best selling vehicles and people will still drive SUV's.