Thisisme, you asked me about Jack Herndon's statement on his "Redneck Fest" facebook account where he said he'd change the name. I saw it on or about April 28th of this year. He allowed unrestricted access to what was posted there at that time. He has changed that since so I cannot say whether the statement about changing it is still there since he is free to delete what he has written, but some of his friends suggested new names and/or urged him not to change the name so those posts should still be there even if Jack's is not.

I sent this post to you via e-mail, just in case you don't see it here as it has been a while since you asked for it.

Billnewbie- I'd like to go back through the FB account to see where Jack promised to change the name... do you have the date that it was posted there?

Vonnie I could actually hear your voice as I was reading your posts. Hysterical. I was reading through these posts and made note of some of the opinions... Joker, yours included. I'm proud to be a part of this fest, no matter what it be named. I will be pushing strongly to keep the location where its at and to keep the name, as while there are a few who argue against it, the turn out showed that there were enough that were for it. There are regular meetings, and Jack and Nicki and the neighbors would love to all share in opinions on what y'all think should be changed. I'm sorry that we didn't see you there, Joker, but everybody can't be every where or agree with everything that everyone does. That's what makes us a great people and a great nation.

Please feel free to post your suggestions on the RNF Facebook or MySpace page. I'm happy to provide any suggestions to the Herndon's if you'd like to email them to me through here. All in all, it was a great time with a great turnout, led by great people with a great support team.

Well, since you EXCLUDED yourself from the fest all your talk is crap!

Don't lawyers need FACTS to present a case????

Joker, why don't you call Easter Seals and see what they think of the name? I am sure it doesn't bother them. It is in the past, now go about your life like it never happened, will you? This is getting really old, fast! JMO

Well said Billnewbie! Frogger, why should I go away? Looks like you are trying to exclude me. Sounds like you like to exclude people.

joker go away already!!!!

Jeff Foxworthy made a nice living showing how Rednecks don't "get it", and enshrined the term "Redneck" as the epitome of a fool. Jack Herndon promised he'd change the name of "Redneck Fest" a couple of months ago on his facebook account. At that time anyone could read what he and his "friends" posted there. He has since restricted access to his "Redneck Fest" facebook to "friends" only. Considering that content on there, I can see why he doesn't want everyone to see it anymore. Yet he said he'd change the name so he does understands that the name is offensive. He needs to follow through.

Change the name, Jack. Don't let your pride get in the way. Keep your word. It won't hurt attendance. You friends will still be there. You may even make some new friends in the process while raising even more money for the charities you want to support.

some interesting takes on the term "redneck" at this site http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/19831

Exactly. I win. You have no intelligent response. Good night, darling.

Vonnie and Truth_b_told, (yawn!) Oh, I'm sorry, did you just say something?

Joker, you've shown you know nothing about this event. However, I am personally offended that you twist this around to comment on whom I may or may not have as friends. I have friends who happen to be white, black, hispanic, gay, male, female, young, old, bikers, country club set, rich and poor. And guess what? Because I surround myself with people who have common sense, ALL of my friends would chuckle at the name of the event and show up to have a great time.
On a side note: What's up with the name "Joker"? My first thought is the villain from Batman. You know... the pathetic figure who wants to ruin other peoples' day because he can't create his own happiness.

Scooter, I think if you keep an eye on the website, you may see bumper stickers or t-shirts with that saying in the near future.

Juststoppingby, NICE!

Joker, you just don't get it. I didn't see any confederate flags, there were none to be seen. I recall that you wanted to know how many would be there, now you have your answer. You can't possibly know everyones reasoning for doing something without knowing something more about the situation. And if you want to pick on my grammar and spelling, go ahead. It looks like that is what you prefer to do; point out flaws that you think exist in everything around you. You don't get it, it's ok, don't try to change the world by yourself, or at least make a real effort once in a while instead of just criticizing others. We actually accomplished something of value to the community and many people were very happy with it; none of them with white sheets, rebel flags or waving nazi swastikas, none of them yelling racist remarks. Have you even taken a look at some of the photos? Like I stated before, there were other races there and they had fun too. Apparently they weren't offended by the name and they certainly do not associate the negative connotation that you do, so drop it and move on to the next soap box.

SARAH - I agree with you 100% about the name of the fest. They should change the name. Maybe it will even grow bigger and become a real positive community venture. There are too many negative things associated with the term redneck. It sounds like those that put this together have good intentions. I hope they will be oepn to discussion about a new name and the tradition that they started can continue - especially if the money they make is used to help others.

Hey Joker, let me give you a hand:

"Juststopping by, I have plenty of say". The correct phrase is, "I have plenty TO say".

"So if you did not hear anything, then there must not of been any racist comments during the party" Here, the correct phrase is "there must not HAVE been any racist comments".

Next time, maybe you should use YOUR spell check.

Deadneck Fest. Redwreck Fest. RedKnee Fest. Rockneck Fest. Wingnut Fest. Walnut Fest. HillbillyFest. Jack Fest. HeeHaw Fest. Mud Fest.
Just isn't the same is it?

Hmm...where to begin? Zdog, you are correct regarding the several versions of the Confederate flag. But your reasoning that people show the Confederate flag because they like big trucks, country music, etc is ridiculous. The KKK uses the flag as a symbol of white supremacy. White people in the South during the 1960's Civil Rights Movement used the Confederate flag to show the world they were not for desegregation and used the flag to symbolize their hatred and defiance of civil rights. If I would follow your logic, then I could argue that I use the Nazi flag because I like to go on sightseeing trips to the country of Germany or german beer or german made cars.

Juststopping by, I have plenty of say and I think I say it quite well. Your recent comment about me adds nothing of any substance to our discussion.

Vonnie, I had to chuckle with your first few sentences of your comment, regarding not hearing any racist comments. So if you did not hear anything, then there must not of been any racist comments during the party. Your reasoning or excuse is similiar to the excuse, "I have plenty of black friends". Talk about denial!

Thank you Sarah B for your comments. I had the same responses. "Typical Janesville!" or "Who is sponsoring the event, the KKK?!" Again, I am not against a party where everyone can have fun and raise money for charity. We need more of this in Janesville. I am against the name of the party.

By the way, there were no rebel flags. This was a group of Americans getting together on 4th of July weekend.

I'll address joker first in this post. I was there from set up all the way to tear down on this event and I NEVER heard one racist comment. The Redneck Fest name is more in line with "you might be a redneck if..." So, that you would try to put a negative label on something which you very clearly know nothing about is what I find offensive. You may also note that when I have an opinion to state, I have no problem using my name. Although, now that I think about it, you do seem to be a joke. So, maybe that is your real name.

Moving right along... I cannot say enough good things about Jack, Nicki, their family and friends to do them justice. This was a well planned event which was fun for the entire family... ANY family! Great food; bands playing metal, classic rock, country; mud pit; childrens area; mechanical bull, dunking booth, volley ball, horse shoes... I could ramble on, but the point would be the same... REDNECK FEST WAS FABULOUS!

Joker, everyone can see you're scrambling because you know you're wrong. When you stoop to the level of criticizing grammar, that means you have nothing else to say. This festival was obviously nothing short of an A+ event for Janesville. Just stop already.

actually the "confederate flag" that most people think of was not the flag of the confederacy. It was however the confederate battle flag. The confederate flag itself looked a lot like ours today, only with fewer stripes and stars.

but it has stood for much more than just hate. There's a lot more to southern pride than slaves and plantations. I'm sure some people like to display it cause they'd like to own some slaves and think those were the good ol days. but most display it because they like big trucks, country music, think of themselves as somewhat of a "rebel" or some other harmless meaning they've attached to it

gotta remember people things only have the meaning we give it. To me this seemed like a pretty good time, for everyone.

Truth b told, first, I would suggest you use spell and grammar check. It will make your message somewhat easier to understand. Second, you indicated that you saw "no rebel flags that seemed to be so offensive." Huh? How does that work? Are some rebel flags offensive and other rebel flags aren't?! Come on, wake up! Any confederate or rebel flag is offensive and wrong. It would be the same thing as having a Nazi flag. It represents nothing but hatred and ignorance.

I want a bumper sticker or a t-shirt that says that! Where can I get one, do you know, truth? Thanks.

Those who can't laugh at themselves leave to job open for others.

One last thing for Jack: Thanks for a great party that had none of the overtones that were assumed, you know what they say about assumptions. Please keep up the good work and do not waste your time replying to the garbage that is spewn forth on this forum from time to time. With one or two adversaries and 2200 supporters, I think it's safe to assume that you are right on track here. My parting last words...... I GOT JACKED AT REDNECKFESTJVL.COM!!!

I just looked at hundreds, maybe a thousand pics of the fest and I saw a band of guys that appeared to be from Mexico, a half dozen partygoers of a race other than white and everyone was having fun. I saw people of all ages, from infants to elderly and some confined to wheel chairs. There were men and women having a great time and no altercations. There was security clearly marked in orange shirts and vests, paramedics that were completely bored with little required of them but a few small cuts and bee stings, and alot of safety precautions. I saw no rebel flags that seem to be so offensive and the whole thing went off without a hitch. In fact, the police officers that did stop by as it was closing up complimented on how well it went.
Once upon a time a fag was considered a cigarette, only more recently did it become known in a durogatory way because of the people using it that way. Things change in time, and as we have seen, the term Redneck has been used in many ways in the past. No one reference to redneck has to be thought of exclusively and most people (I know that is my opinion, but I will stand by it staunchly) do not think of redneck in the same way that the Joker does. I am not saying that everyone is totally comfortable with it, but it does not have to have the negative connotation that some associate with it. I do not believe that a name change is needed or would benefit this event. I do believe, however, that better communication to the public of what to expect at this event would be helpful and is something that can be worked on. In the spirit of those that love this country; The United States of America, that work hard for a living and get their hands dirty doing it, and that can appreciate the entertainment of trucks plowing through mud, cars smashing into each other, a good back yard barbeque, a cold drink and loud rock music, this event is for you.
Companies spend millions every year trying to brand an image and shape public opinion about a product or organization. Perhaps that is something that can be occomplished here without upsetting the fragile equilibrium that Janesvilles fine reputation seems to balance upon.

Joker the name is actually very fitting and it had nothing to do with what you assume (read the first three letters in the last word) Everyone was welcome and if the name offends you try going to something more your style as people like you wouldn't be wanted there anyway. i missed this year but i had an awesome time last year. Hippies and Rednecks and other label you use had a great time TOGETHER.

Joker stop hating and go start your own festival. It's for a good cause so leave it alone.

JUSTINCASE, I am everywhere. But I would never degrade myself by attending something called "Redneck Fest". I would attend if it was called something less foolish and racist. Raising money for a good cause and family fun is great but the name and celebrating redneck heritage is just wrong. Change the name and make it more of a community fest where all are welcome. How many Confederate flags were visible? Just wondering.

Jack, 2 questions. Any idea yet on how much money was raised? And would you consider changing the name of your festival?

My only question is....Was Joker there??? Hope you had a good time if you were!!!

I don't have time to peruse Spacebook or MyFace, all my time is spent on this Blog Site.

There are lots of good pics posted on The Back Bar's Facebook and MySpace

wow, sounds like everyone had a lot of fun and sounds like Jack you are a super host. If I hear of any place with lots of room for next year, I will keep you posted. We know where to find you. LOL

Who cares about comparing hippies and rednecks? All of us are humans just with a label some dork gave them! Jack is extremely intelligient and outspoken and would make a wonderful addition to the city of Janesvilles city council. JMO

ponyboy: After reading your post, I felt like I missed something by not actually being there. Thanks for taking me there, bud. I could almost smell the fumes...
I have access to about 15 acres about 50 miles west of Janesville. Serious bo-dunk country lol Too far?

Congrats Jack. I was so hoping all would go well for you and Redneck Fest. (think back to when you lived by the GM plant,,,,you use to hang out with my son LOL)Hope you can find a spot for next year.

I brought a couple of members of my family. We had a great time, even in the heat. I have the mud stained shirt to show to my friends! I'll be going again next year. Thank you!

It was fun, but I am wondering where the pictures are?? The stage that was built by the neighborhood was amazing!!

At 9am the gates were a buzzing with ppl coming few thing were running behind but the ppl didn’t care everyone was visiting meeting everyone involved. The staff was a buzzing around like busy bees getting the dunk tank going the jumping castle sound checks being made. Now the main stage started to have the festive sounds we all enjoy young and old alike .The sounds of Shawn sharp in the background most wanted singing there hearts out. Now the National anthem is being sang (as busy as all the staff was all I could do is smile for the year work is paying off) the bumper cars start to roar soon after you hear the roar of the crowd with ohh and awe how awesome for a back yard event. The mudding trucks start the hog pen as it was called being sponsored by 105.9 the hog thousands of gallons went into that just so REDNECKS could run what they brung 13 or so trucks came in from as far as Michigan and Baraboo Wi (Now tell me that’s not kewl 3 states away just to come play in the mud) Now the trucks are done and the ok was given and about 75 ppl from little kids to adults run to jump into the mud. Finally the last band comes on stage Nigel Dupree Band and they come to melt your face as the band puts it and boy did they rock. All in all it was an awesome night as for a crowd I saw a variety of ppl from all races so I think last night we should be able to finally put away that REDNECKS are just one race cuz I seen a wide variety of ppl in the crowd. As a member of the board from Redneck fest a special thanks to all the sponsors from the CITY OF JANESVILLE for providing us with the proper permits, Budweiser ,Janesville fire dept, Lowell Hagen for bringing in water and the dozens and dozens of sponsors who believed that we can make this a family fun event . So for all you haters out there who though the city was wrong for doing what they did we showed them that this town and the people of thus town still have class even after everything Janesville has been through. Night all!!! PS planning for REDNECK FEST 2011 starts next sun already

I don't know Jack but it sounds like Redneck Fest was a hit with everyone, good job. I am curious on why this would make him a good candidate for City Council? Just wondering...

I actually couldn't make it this year, sorry. Family had a huge get together. One of my sisters and her hubby went for a few hours and said it was awesome. Good job, Jack and Nikki and all involved. I hope you raised a lot of money for Easter Seals. Moving it to a rural area is a smart idea. I wish you good luck and hopefully will see you all there next year. Just a side note - Jack, run for city council will you? You could make a big difference here in Janesville.

Well Jack, You did one hell of a job promoting that event, not leaving out the dozens of volunteers possibly hundreds that put their time in. Truely a sucsess, take a bow