Janesville City Council backs sidewalks

By MARCIA NELESEN ( Contact )   Tuesday, July 13, 2010
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— The Janesville City Council on Monday unanimously backed a former council’s plan to build up to nine miles of planned but unfunded sidewalk a year, beginning with next year.

Granted, it was probably an easier vote facing two residents with white canes who spoke in favor of sidewalks, rather than a council chamber filled with angry residents being asked to pay for sidewalks.

The real test will come at next year’s annual sidewalk public hearing.

For now, the 2008 Pedestrian Transportation Corridor Plan is back on track.

The sidewalk issue in Janesville is messy because some people are forced to have them and others aren’t. The problems began in the mid-’50s and ’60s, when residents in at least two wealthy subdivisions asked the council for exceptions.

Pandora was out of the box. Now, it will take a council with “chutzpah,” as councilman Frank Perrotto said, or “balls,” as councilman Yuri Rashkin said, to put her back in.

In 2008, the council hoped to stop the controversy with the pedestrian plan.

But the council for the next two years delayed implementing the plan because of the economy.

In April, staff requested 1.5 miles of sidewalk asked for by people mostly for school safety. After more than an hour of public testimony, the council denied most of the sidewalks.

Manager Eric Levitt said that made him unsure of the council’s commitment to the corridor program and asked staff to come up with an alternative recommendation. Staff recommended that only property owners living on the route request sidewalks.

Councilmember Russ Steeber said that would mean none of the planned sidewalks ever would be built.

He and councilman George Brunner made impassioned pleas to keep the pedestrian plan. The two and councilmember Bill Truman were members of the 2008 council.

“The only way we ever get over this and move forward is to take and devise a plan … and get it done in a certain number of years,” Steeber said.

“We’ve created this ourselves,’” Steeber said. “This has been going on close to 50 years. In 2008, I’m happy to say, I was part of something I thought was part of the solution to take and move forward … and get rid of this controversy so future council members (aren’t) subjected to the annual sidewalk meeting which causes so many controversies and is so hurtful.

“Year after year, council have succumbed to the pressure of people coming in and taken the easy way out.”

Councilman Tom McDonald said he wasn’t on the council when it passed the pedestrian plan but has recently studied the process that led to it. He said he realized the council did a lot of work and had numerous discussions and hearings.

“They came up with a plan, a solid plan,” McDonald said.

Perrotto acknowledged that councils have caused the problems by their wavering on sidewalks.

Mike Payne, engineering manager, said he doubted whether staff could build nine miles in one year. Building sidewalk in existing areas is problematic because of grade issues and landscaping that people put in the middle of the right-of-way. He thought staff could build three miles a year.

Steeber said that would take 21 years to fill the sidewalk gaps. A compromise of between five to nine miles was reached. Staff will choose sidewalk from each of nine zoned areas in the city, possibly based on safety criteria, and return to the council sometime in fall.

Council members asked that residents get as much notice as possible so they could save for sidewalks even several years.

Levitt recommended that the council wait to see if the first year is successful.

“We’re going to create a lot of chaos for nothing if the first year is not successful,” Levitt said.

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frogger
Jul 14, 2010 at 4:20 p.m.
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beeferer-
I will bring my comment over here too.

aimhigh"We have vacant houses all over Janesville either for sale or in foreclosure."

I agree this is all stupid. If it is a high traffic area and NEEDS a sidewalk then fine. Seems most agree hear and AGAIN our voices are NOT heard.

Oh I know - the new owner because it will go on that title paperwork as unpaid by seller.

TJRockCounty
Jul 14, 2010 at 4:20 p.m.
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Gravitylens Excellent first post! Thank you for your perspective, I agree with every word.

council_foe
Jul 14, 2010 at 3:26 p.m.
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Gravitylens gives us a lashing on their 1st posting.

gravitylens
Jul 14, 2010 at 2:15 p.m.
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To some of the more vitriolic posters out there I would like to remind you of a few things that smart and successful communities realize.

1. Never begrudge improvements in infrastructure.

2. Never begrudge people who visit your community from another area.

I, for one, would like to congratulate the city council for finally correcting one of the errors of our grandparents. We turned our backs on responsible city planning decades ago and now it will take years of sacrifice on all our parts to set things right.

To all those who say this is the wrong move in our troubled economy, I would like to point out how this is the sort of thing the city should be doing to improve our local economy long term.

Listen, it's not the city's job to bring prosperity to this community. That's up to all of us. The city's job is to provide safety, infrastructure, sanitary services and public education. The city's job is to provide its residents with a safe place to live and work, grow and develop, and to pursue our own business and ambitions. And these are the things that will bring prosperity. GOOD companies will not come to this community for our tax breaks, or our cheap property values. They will come here for good infrastructure and good people. Good people will come here for safe neighborhoods and good schools for their families.

Let's all focus on that, rather than baiting the latest set of corporate crooks who will come here for cheap land, and cheap labor, and abondon both as soon as another down on its luck community presents it with a better offer.

I'll be glad to pay my sidewalk bill when the time comes. Anyone who would like to see this community become the kind of place that businesses and successful people will WANT to be a part of should feel the same way.

CallitasIseeit
Jul 14, 2010 at 12:56 p.m.
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I find it hard to believe this council feels our economy is in the shape to handle this. As someone posted before 9 miles is $1,188,000 per year. We could certainly use that money for mortgages food and to stimulate the entire local economy and not just the concrete business.

tom3205
Jul 14, 2010 at 12:37 p.m.
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70,000 people in janesville. At no time will you EVER see 10% { 7,000 people} using sidewalks. In fact you will NEVER see "ONE" %{700], using sidewalks. Drive around, and take a look. No ONE USES SIDEWALKS. This is the 21st century. Sidewalks are a throwback to mid 20th century.

dkush21
Jul 14, 2010 at 12:20 p.m.
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Sorry, I should have capped NOT !

dkush21
Jul 14, 2010 at 12:16 p.m.
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Anyone want to start a petition going to not ALLOW the city to start this sidewalk project until lots of jobs are created in order to afford this project! If so, let me know because I am definitely in!!!

beeferer
Jul 14, 2010 at 9:42 a.m.
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janesvillean- You are absolutely correct! I totally agree with you on that. I am just trying to point out that a lot of people who had something to say have already vented. Now their comments and valid points are buried. The people who now read this expanded version of the story are missing those very pertinent bits of information.

janesvillean
Jul 14, 2010 at 9 a.m.
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beeferer, this story is in the "news" directory. That means it's the same as the version in the print paper. The one you're pointing to is in the "weblogs/latest-news" directory, which means it's one of the updates posted throughout the day. It isn't some kind of super secret hail mary to make sure that nobody reads what you wrote yesterday.

quisitive
Jul 14, 2010 at 7:47 a.m.
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The "wealthy subdivisions" comment is just more sensationalism from the Gazette. There are several average subdivisions without sidewalks that are getting along just fine. I see two issues. The bully approach that results in things like the silly stretch of sidewalk by Walmart that is never used but must be maintained, and the second which is the environmental impact of the incredible amount of space that is covered in concrete.

yada
Jul 14, 2010 at 7:31 a.m.
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wOOps - almost forgot to praise and thank PASTAMOM for her excellent comment about the exemptions from 50 years ago - well done. Also - hope that you are a whole grain pasta mom - very healthy.

yada
Jul 14, 2010 at 7:26 a.m.
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ErIc - Regarding the sIDeWalK issue - please LEVITT it alone. We lost GM and related biz. The economy is such that this is not a time to force this on many who cannot afford it. Same with the IcE ArEnA - how about NO shEEts of ICE. In other words - get smart(not the tv show/ movie)and don't build it. A family budget or city budget can easily be set up into --> 1. Necessities 2. Luxuries This is the the time that we need to focus on the necessities of life.

pastamom
Jul 14, 2010 at 7:19 a.m.
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I'd like to know which two "wealthy" sub-divisions asked for exemptions to sidewalks 50 years ago. Anyone know?

Gandalf
Jul 14, 2010 at 7:12 a.m.
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Sidewalks benefit the general public and should be part of the general tax levy. The cost should not be fully paid by affected property owners. While some people continue to walk in the street instead of on the sidewalk, most people do use the sidewalk, if available.

theone
Jul 14, 2010 at 12:39 a.m.
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We will be revisiting this issue every year until the council gets some "balls" and puts sidewalks on the general tax roll along with all basic city infrastructure such as streets, curb and gutter.

smabie
Jul 13, 2010 at 8:18 p.m.
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This is ridiculous! People are having a hard enough time staying in their homes let alone shelling out $2000+ for pointless sidewalks. What are they doing with my $4500 in property taxes I pay every year? How about we use the sidewalk resources to hire more cops to ticket all the obnoxious, crazy-driving f.i.b's infesting the area.

beeferer
Jul 13, 2010 at 7:58 p.m.
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OK people- they did it again. They revised a story and posted it without retaining the comments. The link to the original story and its comments : http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/latest-ne... Here's my take, again- This whole sidewalk issue obviously strikes a nerve in a lot of people. Living in a subdivision near the city limits, I have seen the impact of newly installed sidewalks that were mandated against the property owners' wishes. School children, dog walkers, joggers, and all other pedestrians continue to walk in the street. The only benefit I have seen from the newly installed sidewalks appears to be a little extra cardio-exercise in the winter for the owners. But you must ask yourself this- how many treadmills could a person buy for the cost of installing a sidewalk?

bucky12345
Jul 13, 2010 at 7:52 p.m.
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No sidewalks when there are NO JOBS.Postpone this issue for 5 to 10 yrs. Then see where we are as a city. We have got to proiritize and sidewalks and bike paths don't make the cut. The storm this issue creates isn't worth the councils time. It is a waste of the councils time everytime it comes up. Take the city survey and tell them what you think.

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