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JANESVILLE Why would the Janesville Farmers Market turn away vendors eager to sell their wares?
The market board and manager say they are following a market plan that encourages diversity while protecting existing vendors.
Others—including some current Janesville vendors—believe more booths would attract more customers and lead to more growth.
The free market philosophy is followed at the nearby Dane and Beloit farmers markets.
The current board’s direction in Janesville is different, too, from the philosophy of those who founded the farmers market six year ago, and it appears to differ from the board’s written polices, as well.
Sheila Killion, who owns Cakes by Sheila, has appealed a decision by the board and market manager Teri Huber to turn down Killion’s application for the second year. Killion charges a conflict of interest because Huber’s family also runs a bakery booth at the market.
Huber said she turned Killion down because the “baker’s quota” is filled. The market typically has four bakers.
Merry Evans, a former farmers market board member, said there is no baker’s quota. She recently resigned from the board because her growing vending business is taking more time and because she does not believe in the board’s direction. She is now a board member for Dane County’s farmers market.
Huber said she manages the mix at the market to protect the farmers market and existing vendors, especially in these tough economic times. At its peak last year, Huber estimated the market had about 50 booths. She could not give more specific numbers.
Two board members who met with the Gazette—Bryan Meyer and Renee Dommershausen—support the quota policy. Chairwoman Dommershausen said the board wants “controlled growth,” and members rely on Huber to decide what vendors should be admitted.
They said they didn’t believe Huber’s decision reflected a conflict of interest and they stand behind their market manager.
“The market manager is positioned at the market every Saturday … which affords her valuable insight and knowledge concerning the overall health and economics of the market as a whole,” Dommershausen wrote in a letter to Killion.
The board is made up of five vendors and four community members.
A UW-Extension specialist on farmers markets shares Huber’s market philosophy. Huber referred the Gazette to Kristin Krokowski, a commercial horticultural educator in Waukesha County. She is also a vendor at farmers markets.
Krokowski recommends that markets manage their product mixes, especially in mid-sized markets. Vendors become unhappy at markets with too much competition, she said.
“I’m always concerned about my vendors, making sure they do well at the market and giving them the best venue,” Huber said. “That’s so important to me, the success of the vendors.”
If a seller takes home too much of a product, “we’ve glutted the market. People stop making money,” she said.
While “survival of the fittest” is a good concept, a market gets a bad name if vendors leave because they don’t make money, Huber said. Consumers are disappointed if their favorite vendors don’t return, and the market can begin a downward spiral, she added.
That’s not what Kathleen Braatz, executive director of the Downtown Beloit Association, has seen happen in Beloit. The association runs Beloit’s market and has not limited the number of farm vendors.
As the market grew and wrapped around a corner, she acknowledged some jitters about whether the increasing number of vendors could be sustained.
“But we had that many more people coming, and the word got out,” Braatz said. “We let the market drive the produce. We wanted to make sure to encourage local growers and producers to be at our market.”
Evans, the former board member, said she didn’t know Huber was turning away vendors until recently.
“The more the merrier,” Evans said of her philosophy.
More vendors draw more people and create a bigger event, she said. Evans does support a policy that limits crafters to 25 percent of the vendors.
Dave Heider, a vendor in Janesville and several other markets, said the market would grow with more vendors. People with the best produce will sell out quickly, and then people will move on to the other vendors, he said.
People who helped establish the farmers market six years ago said that refusing vendors was not their original vision.
They were surprised and puzzled when they heard about people being turned away.
Bonnie Davis, recreation director for the city, recently asked the council to waive $2,100 in city fees for the market.
If the market is turning away people, however, “that’s a problem,” said Davis, who was a member of a steering committee that helped create the market.
According to the minutes of a recent board meeting, board member Randy Thompson noted that spaces at the market are not being filled.
He asked if it was appropriate to have a waiting list if the market had open spots.
It is unclear how many vendors have been turned away. In the minutes, Huber reported turning away “several” vendors last year in the categories of sweet corn, soap and tomatoes.
Vendor Darlene Schnebbe of Sashay Acres said it’s great to let more vendors in the market but only if they offer different products.
“If you flood it, it’s going to hurt the vendors, especially with the economic times,” she said. “I’m worried that they’re just going to get too many of one thing.”
Janesville’s policies list products allowed in the market, and vendor-produced baked goods are one of them. When she read the policy, Killion believed she simply needed to fill out the application and send in her money.
“I just feel like I’ve been wronged,” she said of her two-month fight and decision to appeal. “The farmers market has rules, and I don’t think they’re following them.”
Meanwhile, Killion said it took two phone calls to Beloit to be accepted as a vendor.
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What: Janesville Farmers Market
When: 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. Saturdays starting today
Where: 100 and 200 blocks of Main Street

May 14, 2010 at 10:46 a.m.
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One of the great things about the JFM is the breakfast buffet at the Looking Glass. Cheesy hashbrowns without too much onion.
I like the JFM but my favorite is Beloit. I've helped my dad vend there for over 20 years. It's wonderful when new college students stop in at the stand. They liven up downtown Beloit!
May 14, 2010 at 9:37 a.m.
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If Teri isn't doing anything wrong, how come we are not hearing from her? come on Teri step up to the plate and defend yourself or resign! Let someone who can build the JFM and make it a success take over.
May 14, 2010 at 6:48 a.m.
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Oreally: Janesville naysayers and those who will always jump to take joy in condemning others so quickly are Janesville's true embarrassment. Luckily, I still believe the defeatist, anonymous people who comment on this site and those who make profit by causing distress to others do not represent our community-at-large.
May 13, 2010 at 6:58 p.m.
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Pardon my French, but the Janesville Farmers Market is an embarrassment to the city and should be shut down pending reorganization. There must be somebody in Janesville who has the business acumen and the vision to create a vibrant Saturday morning venue for vendors and shoppers alike. A very successful local businessman once remarked to me that a business that isn't growing is dying. There. That's a good place to start.
May 13, 2010 at 8:36 a.m.
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Grow it. Allow more and more vendors and extend it onto East Wall Street and further North on Main. Attract customers from as far away as Madison, Rockford, Milwaukee- forcing this into an all day event! Or limit vendors and watch it slowly fade to 3-4 booths. (Ring bell for assistance)
May 12, 2010 at 12:43 p.m.
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FYI, Ice....many markets vary in size according to the season and availability of the product. That's why there's a lot of asparagus, flowers, and bedding plants right now. If you find items like some fruits, corn, and so forth, you will know they're not locally grown. Supporting local is often important to many market shoppers. Everyone needs to remember there are full-season, partial season and even daily vendors throughout the summer.
May 12, 2010 at 12:22 p.m.
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I went to the JFM last weekend and was pretty surprised at how much smaller it seemed than last year. I thought it would grow over time, but it seems to be doing the opposite. Too bad. I'm glad I read these comments, or I would not have known about the Beloit Farmer's Market. I will be checking it out. It would be great not to have to drive to Madison for a quality Farmer's Market.
May 12, 2010 at 10:05 a.m.
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Yes, I agree that only a few local food vendors and 40 craft vendors is not the way to go. That's why JFM limits crafters to 25% of all vendors signed up. But you still need to screen that 25%, and have a variety there as well. You can't have 80% of your crafters selling leather goods, for example, because none of them will do any good and they will say to other vendors "Don't bother with JFM, you don't sell anything there." Customers see only leather goods, and say "Well there's not much here."
There's another market I go to in a town of about 8,000 residents, only 20-some vendors on a good day, and that little tiny market outsells JFM (a city of 65,000?) almost all the time. I'm pretty sure the manager keeps a tight reign on who gets in to sell and who doesn't, making sure all goods are really grown and not a resell...but then he's always out there asking the vendors what they need, how are sales today, what do you think would make sales go up, etc. (He also vends his own tent as well) Customers flock there because they know they won't find 20 tents with the same thing.
May 12, 2010 at 8:56 a.m.
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I was going to head down to the JFM this weekend, but after reading all the posts I think I'll head down to Beloit instead. Also, if there are a number of vendors in Janesville who want to have a farmer's market and aren't welcome to join the existing one, why not start another farmers market? Then we'll get to see some free market in action.
May 12, 2010 at 8:54 a.m.
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I too think the manager needs replacing. Apparently the board was not aware of all her activity. The board needs a manager who works for them following their rules, the existing rules as written. The existing vendors and public should be aware of any activities and board activities when they happen, not 2-3 years later. There is no harmony, only controversy. Start over I say.
May 12, 2010 at 8:29 a.m.
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The way to change and improve the JFM is not to abandon those local, existing producers and vendors who did not make current policies. Rather, support them, encourage them, and add YOUR ideas for change by getting more actively involved. Leaving for "greener pastures" is rarely the answer that helps bring people together to build stronger communities.
May 12, 2010 at 8:19 a.m.
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6ofUS & notyou- Thanks for the insight. You gave us something else to think about. I still disagree with the way Terri is handling things and think she should either be replaced or retrained.
May 12, 2010 at 6:42 a.m.
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I too have had experience with markets through my uncle. He stopped vending because of his age, not because of too much of one product. He would bring as much as he could, some weeks he would sell a lot more of one item and the next week he would sell a different item, it's unpredictable. This time of year at a vendors grown market only, the only thing you can find is asparagus. Of course it's going to be at every stand! If you found tomatoes, it would be hot house tomatoes, not in the dirt local tomatoes. If you were a farmer, you would know that May has frost, nothing can be harvested but asparagus, maybe a few herbs, but certainly not anything else. But I may not like your asparagus, or you may be keeping yoru price up too high. Do you think it's smart to have 2 asparagus stands in May and then 40 crafters? That's not a market I want to go to.
May 11, 2010 at 10:36 p.m.
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There is one reason vendors come to a market: to sell their goods and make money. Period. Speaking as a JFM vendor, there are good reasons to limit the number of vendors selling the same item. When customers walk by your stand saying "Geez! More asparagus!" or "Let's go to BFM, they have more variety" then you know you have too much of one thing. If there is say $1000 worth of asparagus customers, and you split that between 4 vendors, then theoretically, each vendor sells $250 of product and goes home happy. Split that $1000 between 20 vendors all selling asparagus, then each gets $50, going home barely covering his costs. Do this enough, and asparagus vendors will stop coming. A good manager gets a feel over a few years what the potential market share is, and screens vendors accordingly. If most of your asparagus vendors are selling out and going home early, you need to allow more vendors to come. If vendors are sitting there with full tables week after week, you have too many, and need to restrict the amount of vendors with that item. If someone inquires to vend with a product you don't have, you let them in if you have empty spaces at the market.
At JFM, this sort of control doesn't happen. Vendors are either rejected where there's room, or allowed in willy-nilly to simply fill the stalls so JFM gets its money. I have been with the JFM since the beginning, and have seen my product market being glutted year after year...so much that I lost $500 vending at the JFM last year. Some would say that if you have inferior product, you won't sell as much. This is true to a certain extent, but I also know that perfectly wonderful businesses fail because there is not enough market share to keep them in the black.
Don't get me wrong, I like selling at the JFM. It's close to home and customers are nice. However in 2010, I'm not coming. Simple dollars & cents.
FYI: Vendor cost is higher at JFM than BFM, $150 (2009 prices) per season at JFM, and $100 at BFM, so you need to sell more at JFM before you break even as a vendor. Of all the markets I do each season, (and I do a LOT), JFM costs the most to sign up for, and returns one of the lowest profits. Again, simple dollars & cents.
I'm not sure how to fix this problem, but I can't afford to wait and see. I know there are other vendors who feel the same and have left as well. Sorry folks, I'm out. Best of Luck.
May 11, 2010 at 9:34 p.m.
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I'm with you Needto. Let's start over and make it great! Let's partner with neighboring cities, exchange some ideas; not compete, compliment.
May 11, 2010 at 9:08 p.m.
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If everyone goes to the JFM website and then click on farmer vendor. The policies,rules and procedures are listed along with the goals of the JFM. Clearly the board and Teri have not been following these at all. I think that as a community we need to start with a new manager and board that will follow the goals and then follow the rules as written. Let us live and learn from this. Janesville can have a great farmers market in downtown and it will be great. Let's focus on the positive and quit putting down our community and city. We are what we make of it. Let's think positive and be positive and the great will follow. Everything happens for a reason. We will be stronger and better because of this.Let's do it Janeville.
May 11, 2010 at 5:49 p.m.
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Went twice to JFM, what a lame joke it is! I went the second time just to verify my first impression.
May 11, 2010 at 5:16 p.m.
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For those who didn't hear or read the WCLO page, there is a podcast of the reporting done by the Gazette's Beth Wheelock, and some of the Janesville City Council members. Very interesting to find out the JFM has asked the City to waive some fees because they can't afford to pay them. Hmmm...maybe if they allowed more vendors in the JFM could pay the City...So now we tax payers are paying for Ms. Huber not doing her job. Lovely...
May 11, 2010 at 4:37 p.m.
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gazettefan - That's what this reminds me of - The Mafia!! :)
May 11, 2010 at 2:48 p.m.
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Are you kidding me? I've been going to the Beloit Farmers' Market for years and they are only limited by space - not attitudes or protectionism. (By the way, City of Beloit, please consider allowing additional streets/space as the Beloit Farmer's Market continues to grow and we dont' want to limit growth!). I loved the Beloit Farmer's Market and tried Janesville's one time - lame lame lame. Now, after reading this article, I have no intention of trying Janesville's again until Ms. Huber is instructed on the basic principles of economic growth and development. Such a shame to have to deal with small-mindedness when so many are just trying to make it day to day.
May 11, 2010 at 2:23 p.m.
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I'm not going to be polite about this. When only monied interests are in control, you'll get those interests acting like gangsters and communists.
People are always complaining about government, but the council has to get involved and clean this mess up.
May 11, 2010 at 12:20 p.m.
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Ah, shucks! (Cheeks getting rosy).
May 11, 2010 at 12:18 p.m.
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I emailed Teri on the JFM site clicking the "Contact Us" link. I really didn't expect to get a response to my question, but guess what? Well, um... I didn't get a response.
May 11, 2010 at 12:13 p.m.
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SwissChick- No problem and how nice of you to mention it! You are truly one of the most considerate posters here!
May 11, 2010 at noon
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Leave it to Janesville to think of some stupid rule about a Farmer's Market that should be like a famous saying "for the people and by the people", not just your best buds!!
May 11, 2010 at 10:24 a.m.
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I didn't know Sweet Sensations was Sheila! That stuff is great! Thanks for the info!
May 11, 2010 at 10:14 a.m.
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I will be asking if the baker is related to Huber before I buy from now on .. If the answer is yes , I will take my money else where .
This is pure crap !
Every vender interestered should be welcomed !
This is a conflict of interest to say the least . Shame on you Teri
May 11, 2010 at 10:14 a.m.
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Sorry, beeferer! Just thinking of the treats from them made me misspell your name.
May 11, 2010 at 10:04 a.m.
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Don't forget Sheila had Sweet Sensations by Sheila.
I'm sure if you called Sheila she could make other baked goods...or better yet, go to the Beloit Farmer's Market. She also belongs to the "something special from Wisconsin" group.
May 11, 2010 at 9:14 a.m.
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beferer - Oh, you just had to bring up Rollin Pin!!! I'm salivating............ That was a big loss!
May 11, 2010 at 9:12 a.m.
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Teri's has TWO vendor slots and Sheila's not allowed one??? Sounds like she rules the kingdom.
May 11, 2010 at 9:04 a.m.
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oops sorry that was a Oregon farmers market not the San Fransico one. I was so busy typing I forgot which city I was dealing with (no caffine yet) the end quote was "Dogs can continue shopping at the three other, less crowded markets in town: " so to me that means they were not a threat as much as a hinderance when navigating the asiles at there particular farmers market.
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As I said before BFM has no problem and is on wide city streets with ample room for dogs, kids and other people. Hope everyone checks it to see for themselves. June 5th looks likes its going to be a busy day for the BFM
May 11, 2010 at 9:03 a.m.
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Bears86 - Sounds like you should tell Teri "it's not high school anymore".
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What's going on with her anyway? What's wrong with free enterprise? If you have a good product, it will sell. If you don't, either go back to the drawing board or quit. If you're worried about somebody selling more than you, well then you shouldn't be there. Can you say monopoly or is it sour grapes?
May 11, 2010 at 8:57 a.m.
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why do you think Bushel and Peck's chose Beloit to do business?
May 11, 2010 at 8:55 a.m.
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Thanks needtobeheard: I am going to try to get to that meeting. We all should, so that our voices can be heard. Perhaps a print off of all these comments then submitted to the board as well? Maybe then they will make the necessary changes to get the JFM growning instead of shrinking.
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I also think that the website needs to be updated and current. Having 2-3 year old information is not going to help, nor does it look very professional. You would also think that Teri would have had accurate numbers to give the reporter instead of "At its peak last year, Huber estimated the market had about 50 booths. She could not give more specific numbers." wouldn't you KNOW who was there and who was not? SHe has a list and checks it off when she talks to all the vendors when they get there. How hard would it be to know your numbers? It is her JOB after all. If that is the sloppy way she runs a market, along with no return calls/emails, then I guess she needs to be fired!
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you forgot to mention in the article it only stopped allowing dogs at the San Fransico market because it was too crowded, but at the other area ones all pets were still welcomed.
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Dogs at the BFM are very friendly, I have not seen or heard about any problems.There is even a doggy bakery there that caters to them, plus meat vendors who sell bones. I know of 2 dogs that like to pick their own treats out when they (owners)shop there. Besides dogs walk down the city streets and some go to the dog park and meet other dogs/kids/people all the time. Rarely does that involve a bite or fight.So to say that because of the potential of a incident, they should not be allowed is absured. there is just as much potential from getting food poisoning, or mugged, we should not be afraid to live our lives, and have a nanny state watch over us.
May 11, 2010 at 8:20 a.m.
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In reading all these comments, I can't help but realize that this is simply typical Janesville. The community has a valid point, there is an easy solution that would benefit the community and the people in the position to make that happen turn a blind eye because it doesn't fit their selfish needs. What a shame. I've been here over ten years and rather than watch a community flourish, I've watched the leaders of Janesville literally kill it by forcing their own community members to go elsewhere to do their shopping. It's time for a change. Someone normal needs to step up and run for city council, board members, etc. These people are elected into their positions, they can also be removed!
May 11, 2010 at 8:01 a.m.
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The board meetings are the second Thursday of the month. Which means this Thursday May 13. I understand that they are at the courthouse at 6:15 pm enter the back of the courthouse and the meeting is on the second floor.Anyone with concerns should attend and let your voice be heard.
May 10, 2010 at 11:20 p.m.
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This shouldn't be a real shock. Many years ago, the late Ken Hendricks (of ABC Supply)shopped around Janesville (his home) for locations and financial backing from local banks, but was kind of run out of town...he set up shop (and many many shops) in Beloit, nearly re-established Beloit's downtown and provided many jobs, services and community philanthropic projects there. not here. just food for thought.
May 10, 2010 at 9:55 p.m.
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Thanks a lot... I forgot about those donuts MMMMM fresh and hot...MMMMM gotta get me some now. LOL
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Beloit also has the vendor that sells fresh salmon and other fish plus 2 different honey people. Each is a bit different from the other, but both are worth buying. My personal fav is the bison meat, the whole muscle jerky or the yummy roasts. Always bring one of them home.
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have to go get a snack now, you guys made me hungry :)
May 10, 2010 at 9:13 p.m.
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partarican1- Bakeries have been disappearing from this city. Donutland, Donut King, Rollin' Pin, Daylight Donuts- all gone... I am glad Old Fashion Bakery opened a branch here- I remember going there as a kid when it was on the west side of Beloit. Their glazed raised donuts are simply the best donuts in the world! (Krispy Kreme ain't got nuttin' on them, baby!)
May 10, 2010 at 9:09 p.m.
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Don't forget Beloit has Mini Donuts!! Fresh and hot. I suppose Janesville wouldn't let them in, becuase it would be a bakery item!
May 10, 2010 at 6:22 p.m.
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Madison is not a resale market, it is vendor produced only and the largest in the country. http://www.dcfm.org/
As for keeping your money local, most of the vendors do not live within the city. Buying local usually means within 100 miles, which then includes Beloit and Madison. Some of the vendors live north of Madison, some in Green County, some Clinton and some Fort Atkinson. They take your money back to those communities. The market was to benefit downtown Janesville, to make the downtown grow and be a fun place. It doesn't seem fun anymore.
May 10, 2010 at 5:44 p.m.
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Interestingly, this article regarding the great success of the Beloit Farmers Market is on BDN website today: http://www.beloitdailynews.com/articles/...
All things considered, is would seem Huber's behavior is a bit off.
In regard to dogs, love 'em. But never understood why some people want to drag them into a crowd of people and walk them around on burning hot asphalt and cement when its about 90 degrees out. And it's obvious that many dogs are uncomfortable with the noise and the crowd. Do them a favor and leave them home where it's shady and quiet.
May 10, 2010 at 4:08 p.m.
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Maybe Teri should not be allowed to be a vendor, because it would seem to be a conflict of interest. Other bakers should be allowed if there is room,and there is no quota. Funny how no one can produce any documents that have the stated quotas...
I still won't go somewhere else for a farmers market. Janesville's is small, and they don't allow produce resale; something Madison and Beloit allow. I would rather spend my money locally, and not travel out of town to get local produce, or possibly resold produce from who knows where...
And who really goes to the market for the bakery? That's what we go to the bakery for :)
May 10, 2010 at 4:03 p.m.
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Still, Teri needs to go.
May 10, 2010 at 3:53 p.m.
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Does anyone know when the JFM Board meets? I'd like to attend the meeting...it should be open to the public, don't you think?
Why isn't the website calendar up to date? The last newsletter posted was from 2008. The calendar is blank. Surely there are events for 2010 planned. I understand Ms. Huber is busy the day of the FM, but what does she do the rest of the week?
What about all the sponsors of the JFM...do they just send a check in hopes of Ms. Huber doing her job? Maybe they need to question her performance. She is a paid employee of the JFM. It's quite apparent that Ms. Huber has had several "run ins" with other vendors, not Ms. Killion based on some of the comments posted on here. If I were a sponsor, I would certainly want more recognition for my contribution as well as more accountability from Ms. Huber.
May 10, 2010 at 2:14 p.m.
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First, some of you posting need to read the section entitled "Before you post a comment".
It seems there are several misconceptions out there. Like the 75/25 rule. That rule applies to homegrown/baked items vs. crafts. That is a state rule you need to follow if you want to be considered a "real" farmers market by definition.
That article printed in the Gazette on Saturday was one of the poorest examples of what is suppose to be professional journalism I have ever read. It was extremely one sided and the title itself was very misleading. "Vendors" or at least the majority of vendors, were not questioning the Market's rejection of other vendors. If there are on average 50 vendors at the market on any given Saturday, and one potential vendor is upset and 2 or 3 other vendors (1 mentioned in the article who pays for a seasonal spot but was only there approximately 3 times last year) are questioned that is clearly not the majority of vendors.
There was something else that was conveniently left out of that article and this was about Ms. Killion's behavior once she was told she COULD be a vendor. I would like to know why that part of the story wasn't reported?
I have another question about the article. Brian Meyer was at this interview. He was one of the people who was on the original committee trying to get a farmer's market going in Janesville again. I cannot believe he sat there and said nothing. Many of the questions people are raising in this blog, could probably have been answered if the interviewer had bothered to ask Mr. Meyer questions, or if she did ask him, include them in the article.
May 10, 2010 at 1:45 p.m.
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Make the market larger and more people will come. If more people come, more people will spend. Isn't that "controlled growth" rather than "managed favoritism". What is wrong with competition?
May 10, 2010 at 1:15 p.m.
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ThirdEye.....Realize it's off topic, but don't forget about the Beloit Artwalk and the Beloit Film Festival. Those are two events that we make a habit of attending every year.....The artwalk is in 2 weeks......
May 10, 2010 at 1:03 p.m.
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I don't understand why vendors have complained about the cost of this. WOW. Only $15 for a single day. Sell 4 lbs and tomatoes and it is all gravy from there.
It seems the season prices are not that bad either. Maybe I will plant some extra tomatoes!! Oh, that is if I am lucky enough to be called back!! If she were really that busy with phone calls the market should be huge!! OH I forgot she doesn't want that.
May 10, 2010 at 12:29 p.m.
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It's not just in farmers markets that Beloit has moved ahead of Janesville.
Beloit: Music at Harry's place. good bands from the region, food vendors, Ice Cream, and (OMG) Beer.
Janesville: Leisure Services sponsers local bands at the courthouse on Wednesday's. Pop corn and Soda Pop is available.
Beloit: Downtown Street Dance(1st Fri.in Aug.)
Great live music, taste of Beloit, lot's of food vendors, and beer.
Janesville: 4th of July and other various venues. Food, soda, and Ice Cream. If you want beer you must stay in a roped off area away from family and fun.
Beloit: Riverfest
Janesville: 4-H fair
I'm a Janesville resident and it looks like the BFM is an addition to my many summer trips to Beloit.
(Note: I have mentioned this before, but the Janesville phobia about serving beer at public outdoor venues just amazes me.)
May 10, 2010 at 11:31 a.m.
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Just to let everyone know the full Beloit farmers market will be up and running the first weekend in June. Right now they have a small plant and veggie selection. But do not worry they will be better than ever come June when more crops are in.
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As for the poster who said stay in town and volunteer for the JFM to help it...We tried, but were turned down !!! Teri wants to be the only one "in charge" and refuses help that would make the market grow.
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I only hope the board members read these comments and take some action to improve the JFM and their public realtions.
May 10, 2010 at 10:59 a.m.
May 10, 2010 at 10:55 a.m.
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I see why this Terry lady is so overly hyper. TOO much sugar from her stand!!
I would not buy from her anymore because of this. Are you afraid of competition??
The more booths the better. The more booths the more people will come to see what is going on. The more people then MORE MONEY.
I guess you NEED to be a genious(sp?) to figure this out!!!
We hear, on these blogs, ALL THE TIME how much bigger Beloit's market is than ours.
It seems it will be one more bigger this year.
I have never heard anything bad about Cakes by Sheila.
"Come on, we are not in high school anymore.."
EXACTLY- so why decide who is "in" and who cannot be "in" Let everybody in.
farmgirl- I agree, the no dogs AND goats thing is bull too. They are NOT hurting anybody.
I will toss a twig in front of her skates next time ! )
I bet you cannot skate down there either BUT SHE CAN !)
dini79-" It is infuriating to get to the market later in the morning during any season and have nothing left that's on your list, and now you're telling us this could be avoided?"
I hear this a lot.She even says it on the radio. "Get here before it is all gone". WELL if we had more venders then there would be more to buy and people wouldn't run out. Some cannot get there until later and then THEY can have some stuff too.
They need a new leader it seems!!
It seems only one person agrees with her. Maybe it is HER.
One hot potter- thekid would be there haha.
Sorry you may not get there. But your booth would have been neat here! Pot makes a great gift. Kid would like some !)
whatdoyouthinkofthat-
I totally agree- more than just one day. Sunday as well. Many people work on Sat and cannot get there unless they open earlier.
mommat- lol!! So true!
Did you ever hear the Car Commercial for a dealer near by" when you all offer the same product it comes down to service."
Teri it seems your bakery will be going DOWN!
Guess you had no idea because you are not very bright. By not letting in a vendor you have just taken yours down.
May 10, 2010 at 9:18 a.m.
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Milton would be a FANTASTIC location for a market...by the Historical Society, where they have the craft show, or by the park area near the school. A farmers market in the old Menards parking lot would also be great. The north side of town is the area where thousands of people shop, eat and work, not in a dying downtown for a few hours on Saturday morning.
May 10, 2010 at 8:58 a.m.
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A good document that provides an overview of all the aspects operating a local farmer's market may be viewed at:
www.flaginc.org/topics/pubs/art/FarmersM...
There are far more variants to a market than immediately apparent on the surface. While many will so quickly condemn the JFM, I hope this discussion will cause many more to personally visit it to see the joy of community building rather than encouraging even greater city vs. city schism. I challenge others to realize the many volunteer opportunities at JFM to get directly involved for direct input rather than trying to destroy a Janesville asset.
May 10, 2010 at 8:37 a.m.
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The Beloit Farmer's Market sounds so much better than Janesville's. Teri needs to be fired!
May 10, 2010 at 8:12 a.m.
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total Greed! it's all about a few farmers and for get the rest!..I would like to plan a FM up in Milton, that would let ANYONE IN, and the buyers can decide who's got better produce, how can a board leave anyone out that wants in? there's only one reason for it! GREED! IF THEY HAD A MARKET UP THERE IN MILTON, IT WOULD TAKE AWAY A GOOD PERCENT OF THOSE WHO ATTEND THE JANESVILLE MARKET...SMALL TOWN LIVING AND NO ONE GETS LEFT OUT!..SHAME ON THE JFM BOARD..i hope they revoke your permit! Heider's got it right, at least we'll get better produces..seems to me that someone is scared of a little competition..wow, they sure had a nice little thing going on down there for the last 5 yrs...glade to see it's going to be broken up soon...DISCRIMINATION AT IT BEST RIGHT IN OLD DOWNTOWN JANESVILLE... AGAIN
May 10, 2010 at 8:06 a.m.
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ladystardust- "Here comes another machine that needs to be "reigned" in"? Your command of the English language indicates you may have a cupcake deficiency.
May 10, 2010 at 7:18 a.m.
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To ladystardust
While my main objective is to buy fresh produce, I just might buy a cupcake...because they are there, it's convenient and I would rather support a local business than a Big Box store's bakery. And since Janesville is in the dark ages, you probably don't know that Cupcake Bakeries have been the rage on both coasts, just now trickling into the Midwest, opening in Chicago and recently Madison.
So are you saying no one would go to the JFM to buy a grapevine wreath or a cement toadstool? Or to watch breakdancers or listen to a local musician? I have nothing against the crafters, I am one myself, but does that category have a quota?
If you don't want a cupcake, don't buy one.
May 10, 2010 at 6:24 a.m.
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ladystardust: you make the common mistake of misusing the word "capitalism", which is nothing more than a system of finance and ownership. What you describe is classic oligarchy: control of the many by a powerful few. Oligarchy is the exact opposite of a free market. In an oligarchy, the only winners are those who hold power, while everyone else loses. Everything I have read in this article and comments describes an oligarchy in microcosm. (I am still waiting for someone to answer my question about how and why the people of Janesville relinquished their freedoms to a farmer's market board and Teri Huber in the first place.)
May 10, 2010 at 2:54 a.m.
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capitalism at its finest-take a good idea-get support, city money, and customers, then slowly gain more and more control to squash any hint of competition and slowly treat people/customers/employees like they are numbers and then all of a sudden you are rich, yet you have no real friends and all of your human traits have been taken over by a robot who operates on profits and inability to ''feel''. Here comes another machine that needs to be reigned in and given real rules and outlines to protect everyone, vendors, farmers and customers alike. IMO I think the hours are lame and that the lack of parking is horrendous. Also, nobody wants to go to a farmers market to buy cupcakes made by sheila..
May 9, 2010 at 10:52 p.m.
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I haven't been to the farmer's market yet. But, if Janesville is going to be a stick in the mud like they are with everything else, I will definitely go to the Beloit farmer's market to check it out. I do not like people who treat others with disregard and think they are better than others. Janesville better get their heads out of the dirt and start attracting whatever business they can get here.
May 9, 2010 at 9:26 p.m.
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I understand that Sheila Killion's bakery is the only vender "application" that has been denied. I also understand the denial had more to do with a behavioral conflict, in a formal written board letter some time ago. After all, it is called a "Farmer's Market"? What ever the reason for denial, or argument to be made, it seems obvious the market is trying to avoid a flood of too much of one type of product, and encouraging sellers to bring something not yet offered. How much space is available? What does the consumer want in choice? I prefer wide variety, not a market drowning in many sellers of one thing, all begging me to keep them all in business. A few selling the same thing does give me choice. Remember the existing sellers already have committed to supporting the market and need to survive too. It just seems the market is forced to make a few decisions using limited facilities. If operating money is plenty, space is unlimited and the city leaders support it, then a more open policy makes sense. I'm not convinced they are. However, it looks like the patrons do and have supported it.
May 9, 2010 at 9:03 p.m.
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Behold the power of the interactive press... this may change things yet. Five years ago this may not have gone beyond a few people, yet most patronizers of the JFM have probably read this.
May 9, 2010 at 8:36 p.m.
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Bear86 "This article seems to be pretty one-sided. The "more the merrier" concept works only when there are more consumers to help make it merrier."
I know people who don't go down to the Janesville Farmers Market because, compared to other FM's, (in their words) Janesville's is small, & not customer friendly (their words, not mine). I went there because its small.. Now we know why it stays small, & my family is with everyone going to Beloit, because I can't stand supporting businesses that control the market, so they can control prices by limiting their competition.
May 9, 2010 at 8:10 p.m.
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I've seen this kind of story before in the past.. when corrupt people get in position to stifle competition they did so with a vengeance. Looks like that way of doing business at the Farmers market is alive & well. I wish I had known this before, because my family wouldn't have been spending money there. Well.. I guess this is a great place for that old cliche, "better late then never!"
May 9, 2010 at 8:04 p.m.
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After reading Saturday's article in the Gazette and another recent article in The Messenger, I went to the JFM. Where were the "nearly 80 vendors" as stated in The Messenger. Per Ms. Huber -if the JFM is at their limit of 4 bakeries/baked goods vendors, where where they? I saw the couple on the south end and Skelly's with their donuts.
I saw at least 6 vendors that had asparagus, green onions, radishes and rhubarb...is there no "quota" on vegetable vendors? How about vendors that were selling annuals and perennials? Are there quotas for that vendor type as well?
I want CHOICES at the market. I can't see why the board/Ms. Huber is limiting the vendors. The more vendors, the attendees...let it grow, it's better for everyone - the vendors, the attendees, for downtown businesses. If Ms. Huber is the Market Manager she isn't doing her job in promoting the growth of the market.
As far as the dogs, my dogs are better behaved then some children I saw down there. Touching all the produce, running around...I saw one kid slam into an older person and almost knocked the man down...and didn't even say sorry or excuse me...just looked at him like the man was the one at fault.
I am certainly going to go to the Beloit FM from now on. I hope Sheila does a fantastic business in Beloit. I'll buy her homemade baked goods from her licensed kitchen anyday over the mass produced grocery store goods.
Too bad Janesville has such a narrow minded mentality. Look out BFM...looks like a whole lotta people will be heading your way.
May 9, 2010 at 7:59 p.m.
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Any lamebrain knows that parking lots are for patrons of the establishment that they are located near.
May 9, 2010 at 7:56 p.m.
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The bottom line is; there are rules for the market that aren't being following. There seem to be many farmers or crafters that aren't being allowed in. Why is that? If there is space left, why is that?
May 9, 2010 at 7:25 p.m.
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I own a home in Janesville and had planned on opening a business here. After my experiences with Terri, and others in this town, I first got a booth at the BFM, and after nothing but GOOD experiences in Beloit I Purchased a building and opened a business in BELOIT. It was the best decision I ever made. Both the business community and the people of Beloit have been supportive. I am happy to say business is going well, and I look forward to many years of success. Those in power in Janesville need to change their attitude if they want to attract the kinds of businesses that will help downtown J-Ville grow. Big paychecks and bigger attitudes have forced many who thought of oppening a business in J-ville to move to more supportive communities, like BELOIT.
May 9, 2010 at 7:13 p.m.
May 9, 2010 at 7:02 p.m.
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Hhmmm. Sounds like a 'Country Club' mentality here. After hearing of this story I am swearing off of the JFM. Knowing that Beloit's market is bigger, does not stifle growth, and allows for multiple vendors of the same product, I'm all over it. This will give and my family a chance to try the same items from different vendors and then to see what I like, then allow ME to make the decision of which vendor I like. Not someone on the board of the JFM who has a business in the market. For crying out loud Janesville, GROW UP! You wonder why this is a second rate community? It's because of attitudes like the one portrayed in this story! Thank you Janesville Gazette for exposing this line of crud occuring right under our noses!
May 9, 2010 at 7 p.m.
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Sheesh. This reminds me of a children's book entitled "The Train That Never Left the Station." This may be the only marketplace in the world that is fighting to . . . stay small. ROFLMAO.
May 9, 2010 at 6:48 p.m.
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We go to the Janesville FM for mainly one vender. Sashay Acres. The eggs, duck eggs, and meat are fabulous. We then take 10 min walk around a leave. We went to the Beloit FM once last year and will be back when we really want to enjoy the experience. JFM is like a convinece store in and out, only through expansion will it be an experience and worth wild. If some vendors fail, its due to bad products or wrong pricing not more vendors. More vendors will mean more customers.
May 9, 2010 at 6:07 p.m.
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Thank-you for telling me that the beloit farmers markets is bigger. Now I know where to go other then Dane County. I have only been to the Janesville farmers market twice and both times very disappointed at the lack of booths. Like I said thanks.
May 9, 2010 at 5:27 p.m.
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Downtown Beloit Farmers Market Pre-season Sale is 8 to 1 on Saturdays through the month of May. It's in the parking lot next to local foods market, Bushel & Peck’s on the corner of State & Grand in the heart of downtown Beloit.
The regular Farmer's Market selling begins the first Saturday in June and runs through October.
(That first Saturday in June is also the annual "Carp Fest" fishing festival along the Rock River in Beloit. On a good day, it's hard to believe how many people show up for this; the river is crowded with fisherman at the crack of dawn!)
May 9, 2010 at 4:50 p.m.
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A successfull Farmers Market is a growing Farmers Market. People want choice. Limiting choice doesn't mean more people will shop your stand--probably means less people will because there is less reason to come to the Market. Let it grow! More choice, more reason to go to the JFM. Little choice, or same-0-same-0, little reason to return next time. Variety, is the spice that will keep this Market going. Don't stifle it.
May 9, 2010 at 4:10 p.m.
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Thanks, "3children", I copied it from the JFM website which apparently is rather outdated. I believe the list was from July 2008.
May 9, 2010 at 3:41 p.m.
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I think that list of board members is a little out of date..the article said that Merry resigned and Renee was the chair.
May 9, 2010 at 3:28 p.m.
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If you know any of these people, you might want to let them know how you feel about the Janesville Farmers Market
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Janesville Farmers Market Inc., Board of Directors
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Chair: Randy Thompson, Dairy & Livestock Agent, Rock County UW Extension
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Vice Chair: Matt Towns
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Secretary: Merry Evans
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Treasurer: Christine Rebout, Executive Director, Janesville Area Convention & Visitor Bureau
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Members:
Brett Condon, Stephen Schmid, Kevin Schaefer
Dixie Johnson, Janet Kassel
May 9, 2010 at 2:25 p.m.
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If Teri Huber is running the show, then all of the negativity on here seems to be directed towards her. Cinnamon Teri's is her booth at the farmers market. Should any of us patronize this particular booth? Now let's check out the rebuttals to see who is affiliated with her.
May 9, 2010 at 2:17 p.m.
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It's the typical Janesville Union Mentality.
May 9, 2010 at 2:15 p.m.
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Who's in charge of this board? Oh, I re-read the article and it says Renee Dommershausen. Who is she? What does she sell?
May 9, 2010 at 2 p.m.
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I would spend more money if I had more to choose from. JFM is so small, I am in and out in 10 minutes. It is pretty lame. I'll try the Beloit Market. Didn't know it was so much bigger.
May 9, 2010 at 1:39 p.m.
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I am a local crafter and last year called and left a message and emailed and never heard back so I just go else where. I sell all over the state and Illinois but not JFM.
May 9, 2010 at 1:10 p.m.
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NOTYOU, while what you are proposing sounds like a great idea, Huber also montiors and controls the comments that come in via the JFM website. If she refuses to return calls to potential vendors and denies others that pose a preceived financial threat to her, why would she pass along to the Board any negative comments about herself or the way that she runs the market? There must be a different way to get the message to the powers that be. This blog is a great first step.
I hope that the Board is reading this information here and that they take an active stand to correct these issues. First step identifying the problem, next step fix it. I can only imagine what Saturday's Market in Janesville will look like, but my guess is Beloit's will be booming. I too will be headed to Beloit to inquire about becoming a vendor. JFM you have a huge task ahead of you. You have lost faith and credibility with your Janesville vendors and clientele. New leadership is needed and a Board with the strength and backbone to return the Janesville market to better times. It is time to "stand behind" behind someone who has a positive approach to the Farmers market in Janesville and wishes to make it a successful event depicting the hard work and dedication those that participate in it show with their products. Janesville does not need any more negativity!
May 9, 2010 at 12:31 p.m.
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About dogs....You may not have had a problem YET, but it only takes a split second to become a disaster...I agree, they're not allowed in grocery stores so why allow them there.
May 9, 2010 at 11:47 a.m.
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I agree that all of us posters or who ever is reading our posts, should email them on their website. I have never attended the JFM or the BFM so I cannot really see what is happening, but reading this article and all the posts, I see this as a major problem. More to sell, more choice, friendlier people, dog friendly, definitely would draw me to the BFM. JMO
May 9, 2010 at 11:20 a.m.
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Two words, FREE MARKET
May 9, 2010 at 11:05 a.m.
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Proartist, you have re minded me of a funny story. Years ago at a market out of state, I was behind a family with a small child, about 3 I would say. This child picked her nose while no one was looking and then rubbed her booger on the box of carrots in front of her at someone's stand. I walked away gagging and laughing. Should there be a rule about nose height/table height requirements? too funny!
May 9, 2010 at 10:55 a.m.
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pro artist - Your anti dog diatribe is just so much BS. We have no problems with dogs at the Beloit Farmers Market. Sounds to me like the people in charge of the Janesville Market are control freaks and do not really care about providing a quality experience for Janesville residents.
May 9, 2010 at 10:43 a.m.
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Let me get this straight. Teri Huber operates the farmers market. Teri Huber is also a Bakery vendor at the market. Sheila Killion wanted a slot for her Bakery and was denied. I see a conflict there definitely. Teri denied Sheila in the interest of Teri's own profitabilty is all I see. This is typical Janesville. It's been going on for years where the richies are running Janesville and if it does not serve their purpose or their profits then they control those others out. It's time to step up Janesville and change the entire city council, any boards and all other controlling governmental factions that has any say in our city. If we don't stop these top wealthiest people in Janesville from running our city then the city may as well be considered dead for it will never grow in those peoples interest.
I will add business is for profit I know. But when a business that is run by a council/board member can't take a slightly less profit and welcome another business of the same type into a city it creates a stagnant enviroment. With results as you are seeing now. You are now left with 2 choices, vote out or move out.
May 9, 2010 at 10:33 a.m.
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I appreciate what Teri has done with the market and I had a discussion with her about this subject last weekend. I was playing devil's advocate and asking her about the vendor base. I would suggest the board allows her to visit other local farmer's markets (Beloit, Madison, etc) to see what does and doesn't work. Teri is passionate about the market. In my opinion, there is a gray area that would be very beneficial to explore. These hard and fast rules that are either perceived or real will stunt the growth of the market. Just my 2 cents.
Steve Knox
May 9, 2010 at 10:32 a.m.
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All these people going to Beloit. Prepare yourselves next Saturday Beloit. Traffic will be backed up to the interstate!
May 9, 2010 at 10:25 a.m.
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In reading these blogs, something just occured to me. The manager is FOLLOWING the boards rules of not allowing dogs, but she is NOT FOLLOWING the 75%/25% rules of no quotas. So, who's market is this really, obviously it's her market only. I found a button I will be pushing soon. It's on the www.janesvillefarmersmarket.com website. It says Contact Us and then Email JVL Farmers Market Board. I think everyone should give their opinion directly to the board, whether it be on the dog rule or the vendor quota. Maybe I'll just go to Beloit Market instead. This whole holier than God thing is ridiculous.
May 9, 2010 at 10:13 a.m.
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Dogs aren't banned from the market because people hate dogs or want to inconvenience patrons. Can you freely take your (non-service) dog into the local grocery store? They're undoubtedly banned for YOUR safety. Those who object surely haven't witnessed the dogs at the JFM attacking one another, children surprising dogs who may or may not be friendly, owners clearly not in control of their pet, excretions, people tangled in leashes, or even tiny dogs walking on vendor tables amid the food products! Instead of criticizing, we all should be appreciative of this effort and note other markets are also moving in this direction - http://www.oregonlive.com/pets/index.ssf...
May 9, 2010 at 10:12 a.m.
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I love having dog hair and slobber on my food. Maybe we should let them in restaurants and grocery stores.
May 9, 2010 at 10:10 a.m.
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This is why I ALSO go to the Beloit FM. This is ALSO why J'ville will never make it out the 50's mentallity it has. If I could sell my house I'd leave now. I'm not sure what the leaders of this "City" have in mind for the future but It sure does NOT appear to be growth or progress...
May 9, 2010 at 10 a.m.
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The following link shows Ms. Huber's business to be Cinnamon Teri's.
http://199.233.45.158/index.php/food-pro...
May 9, 2010 at 9:50 a.m.
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So, JFM is on city streets/sidewalks? Has the city enacted an ordinance restricting dogs during the market? If not, then I don't know what recourse there would be against people who choose to take their dogs along. Just don't get into a shouting match so as to avoid the possibility of a Disorderly Conduct citation!
I go to the Madison market. Selection is huge and it is friendly to the whole family - pets included. I've even seen one or two people with their pet snakes! I will definitely try the Beloit market.
May 9, 2010 at 9:47 a.m.
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There are only two actual bakery listings on the JFM vendor list:
Breezy Hill Bakery
Cinnamon Teri's
May 9, 2010 at 9:28 a.m.
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Every vendor has some type of Bakery at it but there are the two older people at the end towards e.milwaukee st in a white vehicle is the only all bakery items so maybe thats the Huber family. You could just go down there and ask.
May 9, 2010 at 9:21 a.m.
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That is alright. You all can just come down to Beloit... the more the merrier!
May 9, 2010 at 9:20 a.m.
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I'm so glad that I don't live in Janesville anymore to listen to the voice of this lady on the radio. I would always shut it off when I would hear her screetching voice advertising a Farmer's Market that in my opinion is a laugh!
May 9, 2010 at 9:17 a.m.
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Which bakery booth is run by Huber's family? Can anyone tell us? Teri? Can you or will you enlighten us?
May 9, 2010 at 8:57 a.m.
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I say if we can't have more Fire Teri she is not a nice person I know her from the farmers market and school and if your not in her little click your nothing. I use to go to Janesille farmers market it's small and doesn't have a lot to choose from and if you don't get there early in the morning you get nothing. Last year was the first time I went to Beloit Farmers maket and love it so many to choose from and friendly and some of the vendors are from janesville and said the same thing as this article says limited spaces. Janesville needs to step up and maybe the little stores down here will get businesses cause we also stop in these stores it was very nice experience.
May 9, 2010 at 8:37 a.m.
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I am a regular at the farmers market, usually stopping there before going to Beloit, where they have much more selection and a better atmosphere. My teenagers even enjoy going to the Beloit market,(many weeks we make it a family event), but they never come to the Janesville market because it is so "lame". Bring on more vendors - more selection will draw more people, making it possible to attract more vendors...There have been many comments about the vendors that have been lost to Beloit - I wonder how many customers have been?
May 9, 2010 at 8:31 a.m.
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Well..... this article & the comments are interesting & timely. My husband and I drove to JVL (from Beloit) to check out the Farmer's Market on Saturday. What a disappointment! We had our calm and behaved dog with us and when we entered the market from the North side, we saw no sign saying "No Dogs". It didn't take long for the Market Director to find us and tell us the policy (which IS posted on the South entrance). We said ok that we'd leave but she said to stay for bit and just don't do it next time. A short time later she found us again to tell us to shorten up the leash as much as possible. At that point I just said we would just leave. Many vendors & customers chatted with us about how they felt the policy was silly and told us of the Beloit Market, which we're well aware of as we frequent it whenever possible. For the vendors - if there's a quota, that's just wrong!!! It explains the lame market. I did buy Rhubarb as MANY vendors offered it. Come to the Beloit Market when it opens!! It's a nice friendly market, offers many items, has food vendors, a park area to sit/chat, welcomes your pet and many other businesses in the downtown area participate.
May 9, 2010 at 7:50 a.m.
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As someone who has Farmed organically for 6 years of my young life, and been involved with farmers markets in dane county, and also checking out janesville's on multiple occasions, it pains me to see this kind of "controlled growth". If you have good products, and a good attitude, people will buy from you. There will be competition but that's life. Let em' in, Janesville needs to open up. It's a market. People should be able to join and not worry about "sorry, our baker quota is filled". Wth is that?
May 9, 2010 at 7:40 a.m.
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From the article, I was unable to determine where the board of directors derives its controlling authority. This situation provides an excellent hands-on study in the effects of central control versus a free market.
May 9, 2010 at 7:10 a.m.
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Don't run off to Beloit or Madison, we need to support "our" vendors. But at the same time we need to let those in charge know that we are frustrated with the lack of growth/choices! Next Saturday let your feelings be known by hanging a sign on your back. I'll be wearing "You Call This A Famers Market?" What will your message be? Or better yet, everybody bring the family dog.
May 9, 2010 at 6:46 a.m.
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Have you tried Sheila's cakes? They are scrumptious and beautiful. I have been to the Janesville farmers market and have never seen any cakes similar to hers available.
Have you seen her van? It is definitely a crowd attractor.
Have you seen the Madison Farmer's Market? It fills the entire Capitol square, with many vendors selling the same exact wares. Wouldn't it be great if Janesville's farmer's market filled the streets of downtown instead of a sparse offering in a one-block section?
Since Sheila makes her cakes in Janesville, she should be allowed to sell them in Janesville.
May 9, 2010 at 6:05 a.m.
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Typical Janesville mentality. Do you still wonder why Janesville is a 2nd rate city? Well here you go.
May 9, 2010 at 2:01 a.m.
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Janesville is certainly big enough for multiple farmer's markets. It is time to expand to different days of the week too.
May 9, 2010 at 1:07 a.m.
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The restrictive control of the Janesville Farmers by the manager and the present day board serve to reinforce the negative publicity that Janesville has been receiving in state and national publications. Articles in the Isthmus of Madison and Forbes magazine certainly have cast Janesville in a bad light and this situation with the JFM just adds more fuel.
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Growing up in Janesville, it seemed to me that most people felt that Janesville was "better" than Beloit. But Beloit has grown up. It is changing from an "ugly duckling" into a much more "elegant" city. The downtown area is very attractive, new restaurants have opened and yes, their Farmers Market certainly surpasses that of Janesville.
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For many years now, Janesville has remained stagnant. Small efforts have been made downtown, but it could be so much better. I know that many business owners downtown have been very frustrated with the lack of City Council support. Perhaps to get more people to patronize that area, angle parking could be instituted, instead of having the streets set up to simply make it easier for people to quickly get though the downtown area on their way to the other side of town. Lots of people hate to parallel park and so choose not to go downtown.
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A Farmers Market with many, vendors would be a great draw to get more people to explore the center of our city. Now, with the limited number of vendors, people know that if they don't get there in the first hour, many things will be sold out. So, if they can't go early they don't bother to go.
May 8, 2010 at 11:34 p.m.
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You have to be kidding me, right ??? If YOUR product is GOOD enough, it will sell against such products sold by others. Instead control OTHERS, so you DON'T have a FAIR market.
This is so small town thinking and contributes to Janesville's lack of new businesses. The saying "We have enough......". Those you have turned away can open other doors for other types of businesses. It's called NETWORKING. It's something big business does better than small businesses due to their resources. But let the rich stay rich and close the door on those trying to make it. So pathetic...
May 8, 2010 at 11:31 p.m.
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Wow, this is sheer BS and you can bet something's going on here that has nothing do to with "demand." While almost no market segment is growing in this economy, the appetite for fresh and local IS growing. It is infuriating to get to the market later in the morning during any season and have nothing left that's on your list, and now you're telling us this could be avoided?
Such a basic principle that competition encourages growth; the Madison and Beloit peoples' comments bear that out.
Keep on this, Gazette. This is inexcusable. They want us to support this project and then make it impossible to do so. Open up the market!
Li'l Beloit, which Janesville loves to hate, has been doing this so much than Janesville for so many years that some weeks I WILL DRIVE TO BELOIT to ensure huge choice and make sure I get what I want which I know is being harvested at the time.
Maybe we should all take our Saturday morning business to Beloit, all together, on one Saturday morning this summer. It would be a shame for local vendors. But then maybe they'd see the wisdom of leaning on the management for growth.
May 8, 2010 at 11:14 p.m.
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I guess this means I will still have to go to Madison to get my spicy cheese bread! I would love to have a local bakery provide fresh warm baked goods.
May 8, 2010 at 10:49 p.m.
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One of the reasons the BFM is sucessfull is that managment is always trying to help, they stop at booths, say hello, really care about vendors. BFM is not just a place to stop for 5 min. but a place to spend the day. Many of the people who buy tell me this is a weekly ritual were the meet friends, buy produce,art,soaps, etc. then stay for lunch before going home. The BFM is a big economic boost to ALL of the dowtown business. I think Janesville the same.
May 8, 2010 at 10:18 p.m.
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I've been going to the Beloit FM for several years now and it keeps getting bigger and better. It's a family thing where I meet my sisters and we bring our children and spend the morning shopping and visiting with the vendors we've made friends with. One of those friends used to sell at the JFM and didn't like the way things were run, but loves the BFM. If Janesville won't take you, come on over! I'm sure Beloit will welcome you with open arms :) Bring your little dog too! :)
May 8, 2010 at 10:18 p.m.
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Sounds pretty fishy to me! They should be doing all they can to keep this market growing! Sounds like someone's got a big head. I'll have to check out the Beloit farmer's market this year!
May 8, 2010 at 10:03 p.m.
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I am a potter from Janesville and wanted a space at last years farmers market. I called 6 times over a three week period. I left messages. I got no response. I finally decided to go to the market and try and contact her directly. I finally found her, and said I was interested in a space and that I was frustrated by how hard it was to contact her. She was EXTREAMLY RUDE to me and told me she was very busy and did not have time to answer the "500" calls she got each week,and that I should "Check my attitude at the door" I suggested that if she had 500 people a week calling the market would be as big as the one in Beloit. I asked whom I could file a complaint with, she replied "No one, Im in charge". Although I am a Janesville citizen I now sell my wares at the BFM, and have fantastic sales, I hope Terri is replaced, she has a bad attitude, and does a poor job of making this market the success it should and could be.
May 8, 2010 at 9:43 p.m.
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Thanks Farmgirl! I'm looking forward to attending Beloit looking for heirloom tomatoes! Sometimes I go to Madison, but Beloit is closer.
May 8, 2010 at 9:34 p.m.
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notyou I think they are refering to Teri, who is not only the market manager, but has booth herself, so that makes her a vendor...the one who is running the board.
May 8, 2010 at 9:33 p.m.
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notyou: yes the leather people are the ones who were at the JFM. They , along with several others left because of Teri, and her attitude towards not only them, but also the visitors at the JFM.
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All of the vender that left are doing so much better in Beloit. They are so happy they made the change and cannot believe the difference in sales and attitude.
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I love the BFM and have a great time when I work at one of the booths. There is so much more variety. Even if there are 3,4, 5 of the same type of item, it is all different. some are larger bundles of say asparagus, or a different type of tomato. What ever the case it works! Those with good quality produce/other items are going to keep on selling even with competition.
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Perhaps the real problem is that Teri is unable to deal with a larger market, she always seems so stressed out about it ( I have seen it personally, along with others) maybe she is intensionaly keeping it small enough for her to barely manage? I don't know but this could be the case.
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May 8, 2010 at 9:14 p.m.
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who's the vendor running the board?
May 8, 2010 at 8:57 p.m.
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it was a nice 3 minute walk to cover the WHOLE thing this morning
May 8, 2010 at 8:20 p.m.
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I guess I really don't understand. Beloit is run by the city and it's big, growing and well attended. Janesville is run by one person and a so-called "board" and is not doing well. I looked at unemployment rates on Janesville Gazette and Beloit is the highest in the county. Explain to me then why Beloit is doing better than Janesville. http://gazettextra.com/news/2010/apr/15/...
May 8, 2010 at 8:16 p.m.
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Which bakery booth is run by Huber's family? Can anyone tell us? Teri? Can you or will you enlighten us?
May 8, 2010 at 8:13 p.m.
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We can have one to many vendors at the farmers market, But we could always use another Bar. Excuse me while I get another Beer.
May 8, 2010 at 8:10 p.m.
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Thanks notyou, it was a bit confusing what you were trying to say.
May 8, 2010 at 8:07 p.m.
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There is a successful, and better attended, farmers market in Beloit, a city almost the same size as Janesville, yet Huber chooses to run the Janesville market differently. Why?
May 8, 2010 at 7:54 p.m.
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I agree with the others. Killion should take her products to the Beloit farmers market. My parents have stopped by there for years on their way to visit me--they live in the NW suburbs of Chicago. I never understood it, but I reluctantly met them down there one Saturday last summer. It was so much fun. Great food/vendors/atmosphere--I don't know if the J-Ville one is comparable, but I'm definitely going to hit up the Beloit one again this summer.....
May 8, 2010 at 7:51 p.m.
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Bears86, you have all of three posts in your history here and they all are on this article. Any chance you are related or a friend of Ms. Huber? Just asking. I stand by my first post, let someone have a stand as long as they pay the fee and sell good stuff! What is wrong with multiple stands selling the same things? If they are homemade, all will be different anyways. JMO
May 8, 2010 at 7:22 p.m.
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No quota. www.janesvillefarmersmarket.com Vendors farm market applications.
May 8, 2010 at 7:08 p.m.
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I don't think we need to debate Beloit vs Janesville. I've visited Beloit's and agree that it's very nice. Janesville needs to do what it can to grow in size. There are numerous markets on Saturday morning in Madison which proves to me the need is there and the more, the better. Our elected leaders need to review where we are at since the market started and how to grow. If you build it, they will come.
May 8, 2010 at 7 p.m.
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As a concerned Janesville resident also effected by Huber's behavior, I am curious why she is proceeding without the Board's full approval and knowledge? Why don't ALL board members know what is going on? Why would she be making unilateral decisions without their input,knowledge and consent? And now that we know this behavior is going on, what will be done? Huber is unprofessional and sets a poor example of what the Janesville Farmer's Market is all about. If there is no "quota" on vendors why was the baker denied? Controlled growth? I would say that any growth at this time and in this economy especially with Janesville's hard times, should be embraced, not denied.
And why is the Beloit Market doing so well? Perhaps all of those who have been treated poorly by Huber in Janesville have moved to the Beloit Market. Perhaps it is time for a NEW Market Manager.
May 8, 2010 at 6:36 p.m.
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I'm sorry Farm girl, what I mean is, there are local products being sold in Janesville that are also being sold in Beloit. Why not kill 2 birds with one stone, go to Beloit and get it all, Meyers, Davals, Decatur and I just found out several other Janesville vendors sell at Beloit too. In these tough economical times, it's one stop shopping.
May 8, 2010 at 6:12 p.m.
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notyou: huh??? "We can go to Beloit and get the same stuff that is for sale in Janesville plus other stuff. I guess that's the answer then."
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Yes JFM has some other stuff, but Beloit has MUCH more...So what is your point with "that's the answer then"?
May 8, 2010 at 6 p.m.
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Everyone does realize that the board makes the decisions too not just the manager. Wow lets everybody get our undies in a bunch over people who are just looking for a fight. Janesville is lucky to have a farmer's market, lets try to keep it that way.
May 8, 2010 at 5:57 p.m.
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Farmgirl, you list vendors that are the same ones that sell in Janesville. Is that the leather people that used to be in Janesville?
We can go to Beloit and get the same stuff that is for sale in Janesville plus other stuff. I guess that's the answer then.
May 8, 2010 at 5:52 p.m.
May 8, 2010 at 5:46 p.m.
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The only rules I would support would be to limit non-produce or food related vendors. I don't want it to turn into a flea market.
May 8, 2010 at 5:38 p.m.
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I just looked on-line at www.janesvillefarmersmarket.com and looked at the vendor application. I don't see any quotas. It looks like the board and manager are breaking their own rules. I would think the downtown business people would be upset by this. They will not get as much money from customers because customers won't come to a small political farmers market.
May 8, 2010 at 5:33 p.m.
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I agree with the opinions expressed here. While I enjoy going to this market, I had been hoping to see it grow. To hear there is a waiting list and vendors being turned away is discouraging. I heard the appeal for the city council to waive fees to keep the market from going broke. This flies in the face of that and I will urge my council members to reconsider the waiver unless all are allowed.
May 8, 2010 at 5:32 p.m.
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This article seems to be pretty one-sided. The "more the merrier" concept works only when there are more consumers to help make it merrier.
May 8, 2010 at 5:32 p.m.
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I help at a stand at the Beloit market and as far as I am aware of all of it is also locally grown. There are the Amish, Decater dairy, Daval's Bison, Meyer's, a leather crafter & recycled art vendor (very cool stuff) etc...
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Also if you notice Beloit's is much more friendly and diverse. They allow dogs, most booths even have water dishes for them to drink out of and NO PROBLEMS with them...unlike Teri who refuses people to walk their dogs through the market (think she is afraid of them). Plus there are activities that go on such as the trick r treat walk, musical performances and kids activities. The stores downtown also set items out infront and it makes it a community event. Plus gotta love Bagles N More with their coffe and sandwich shop.
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It really amazes me some would want to limit the JFM. Dane County is huge, Beloit has grown so much too, thanks in part to a friendly atmosphere and many booths to choose from. I agree with the more the merrier attitude.
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Also should they not be following the written policy vs what they feel? " The current board’s direction in Janesville is different, too, from the philosophy of those who founded the farmers market six year ago, and it appears to differ from the board’s written polices, as well." Sounds to me like Teri needs to step down as market manager or stop being a vendor...there is a conflict of interest going on if she denies anyone who sells what she does IMO
May 8, 2010 at 5:26 p.m.
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Heaven forbid!!! Allow more people to sell things in DOWNTOWN Janesville. Thank God they have a board to "control growth", we sure would'nt want anything to get bigger in Janesville especially in the downtown area. Am I being CYNICAL? absolutely. The mentality of some people in this area continues to astound me!!!
May 8, 2010 at 5:11 p.m.
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The novice gazette reporter has her facts wrong. Killian does not play well with others. Mean people suck and the Beloit Flea Market is a good place for her to sell
May 8, 2010 at 4:58 p.m.
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You need permission from someone to sell there? How is that a Farmer's Market?
May 8, 2010 at 4:52 p.m.
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No, whats "silly" is going to Beloit to buy resale produce. Everyone knows the Janesville Farmers market is the best thing that Janesville has going for it right now. The JFM is a Wisconsin vendor produced market and buying local is what it is all about right now with the economy being as bad as it is. It looks to me like there are a few people who really want their five minutes of fame by getting all worked up over the fact that the Janesville Farmer's Market does things differently than the Dane and Beliot markets do. Come on, we are not in high school anymore. I have been going to the the JFM for a long time now and I love it. I feel that the atmosphere is extremely fun and friendly. I think the JFM is fine the way it is and I agree that too many of one product would not be very good for the market. After all the nice articles that the Gazette has written on the JFM this article really disappoints me.
May 8, 2010 at 4:50 p.m.
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If Teri Huber or the Farmers Market gets any money from the City of Janesville the market should be open to anyone who follows the rules. No quotas. If the other vendors don't like it let them move on.
May 8, 2010 at 4:29 p.m.
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I am baffled here. How can there be too many vendors? I thought the farmers market was for everyone, seller and buyer. 1 too many baked goods vendor? Huh? I don't get it. If you pay the fee for a spot, you should get one, whether you are a farmer, a baker, a crafter or whatever. It just makes it bigger and more appealing to go to. I guess this article shows everyone who is the BIG BOSS!
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