localguy: Nope.

Monkey--think what you want. It's not my job to convince you otherwise. However, your gut couldn't be more wrong on this one. 1 question for you though. Do you think I'm a cop simply because my opinion differs from yours on this issue?

thank you ma'am. i am a decent human being. some people cant see that simply cuz of my beliefs and the fact that i smoke marijuana...but i lose no sleep to those people. its their loss for judging me.

smoking pot doesnt make you fall asleep instantly. it MOST DEF helps you sleep better:) plus there is a HUGE difference between getting high and medicating. people who dont smoke will laugh at that but its true. if you took 3 hits of what i smoke you would feel a 'buzz'. your body would relax. your mind would relax. you may want an extra snickers;) but you will still have COMPLETE control of your body. maybe those closest to you will be able to tell, but no one else will. you can learn to smoke pot and yes you get better and more use to it. another quote i like to use regarding pot is one from my mom

her: 'have you been smoking marijuana this morning??"

me: 'yes, how can you tell??'

her: 'i dont know, you just seem happier'

KID and JUSTME..thank you for assuring me...lol. The stigma of society really makes a responsible person who uses prescriptions feel as if they are doing something wrong even when they aren't. You don't know how many times I have called my dr. in a panic about the damage I am doing to my liver....
KID...I might just take you up on that offer, only thing that scares me is, I have children, and the pills don't make me sleepy, mj does just as JUSTME said....every once in a while I have to take diazapam (Valium) for the spasms, and that will make me sleepy sometimes, sometimes not...it's weird. The sad thing in my heart is though, I know my body is dependant on these pills, because in my mind when I succumbed to the 'what your doing is wrong' I tried to stop taking them and use ice etc.... and I was never more dizzy in my entire life. IT SUCKED! So, on that note....I can see how a true addict would have a hell of a time getting off of something they are abusing....and not having the mental strength...so, once again, we should never ever judge unless we walk a mile in those shoes! ;) KID! You seem to be such a decent human being.... and I am glad that you don't let people get you down, and you stand your ground!! ;)

localguy: One of the better denials, but my gut feelings are rarely wrong.

Monkey--localguy1 is a cop?? Wait till he finds out. errr, wait. What?

No, optimism, you are not a junkie. I also have degenerative back disease and knee pain and take pain killers prescribed by my doctor. I do not abuse them, I take as needed and that is it. Maybe mj would help, I don't know. I just don't want to go thru life in a fog, mj makes me sleepy. My pain pills do the opposite, makes me feel good so I can move and do things. JMO

optimism: your 10:51 post is perfect

your next post, to answer your questiion: no, this does not make you a loser, or a junkie. it does make you an IDEAL candidate for medical marijuana. email me if you want to try it. 3 inhalations of what i smoke and your pain could go away. i medicated w a 65 y.o. lady who was dealing with fibromyalga. her QUOTE 'i have been smoking since i was in my 30's and never an entire joint, but 2 hits do for me what 4 pills do.' her hubbys QUOTE 'we literally thanked god for leading us in your direction'.

we force these peeps to the untaxed unregulated black market...

even if it's tire cleaner! It's their biz! And I do have to retract my earlier comment about thinking the gazette just supplied users the means to obtain these new 'trends'.... I was reacting to an impulse thought, and now that I have had time to think and talk among you, it is obvious that a little article in the local paper isn't going to be the first place someone is going to look to find out how to obtain their next high. I am sure they are not afraid to experiment with just about anything when self respect isn't there.... I have a question. I have a lot of bone problems, and without going into detail, I am in constant pain with chronic pain, and it is only going to get worse....even with surgery. SO, I have been on three different pain meds at different times over the past three years....and for about the last year I have taken them non-stop (as directed with the exception of an extra half when the pain is unbearable) ... does this make me a junky? A drug addict? A loser?

Boy, after reading many of these posts, there are quite a few of you out there that believe you are purrrfect. Well, if perfect, means the mentality levels you have, I sooo prefer to remain a nutcase! ;)
KID, you totally said it ... what you choose to do with your body is your biz, just as it is with everyone else, and as I stated, if that is self destructive, there is no amount of love, intervention or babysitting a person can do to 'save' that person ingesting poison for whatever reasons.. it lies in the hands and heart of that person, and it is their biz to decide to realize they are worthy of life and love. There are many different reasons to use drugs/toxins/dope .. some reasons comprehend-able and responsible, some as a form of self destruction or to escape reality. Whatever the reason, it is the person's responsibility to be in charge of their own body...and I, from my own personal experiences with loved ones and myself included, if a drug is abused, it's not usually the drug that is the problem, it is inner demons that have not been dealt with and the drugs are being used as a band-aid that has to keep getting bigger to cover the wound that increases in severity. If people could be more compassionate, and understand we are all born innocent and our environments are what make us who we grow up to be, and sure the person may be a 'loser' and steal, kill etc to get their fix, and that is inexcusable as well, but, that isn't what they sat down and wrote their 1st grade teacher when he/she was asked to write about what they want to be when they grow up. NOBODY CHOOSES to be a junky. There are always underlying reasons, always. And for those who enjoy a good buzz once in a awhile without abusing it or effecting others, then ya know what? IT'S none of anyone's biz, except theirs!

Well, localguy, let's agree to disagree because we are both hardliners, but only one of us is sane. Sure glad you aren't a cop... pfft

just me, don't encourage the monkey. If it doesn't make sense to you go back and read the earlier posts. If it still doesn't make sense, then I can't help you. Monkey, keep talking. I think your funny.

spark: Wheel cleaner is apparently a new form of dope, a term which encompasses all forms of drugs, including alcohol. So yes, we are on topic.

Well, it goes to show that some people's kids...

Okay, localguy, and you said you couldn't understand monkey? I don't understand what you just posted. Just My Opinion.

Talkingmonkey, 5:04 post, I understood every word of your post. Lighten up will you guys. Like spark said this is an article about stupid stuff that stupid people do. I am a firm believer in legalizing mj too, but we all know your stance, kid. I smoked also in my younger years, now it just makes me tired. But hey, to each their own. Live and let live, peace man and so on and so on.

Kid--I should have clarified. 1 death is 1 too many regardless of the drug causing the impairment. I also feel 1 is 1 too many if caused by people without a valid drivers license (with a high % of those due to drunken driving convictions). I won't soon be out campaigning against alcohol, just as I am not out campaigning against pot. Wouldn't it be a great world if all the perils of drugs and alcohol could be controlled by responsible users? We both know that would be a 'pipe' dream (pun totally intended)

monkey--I tried to read your post but couldn't get past the blah, blah, blah part. Next time, clarify your remarks before you say something stupid like pot doesn't make people crash into others. You might have just as well said it's OK to drive while high. I'm not angry and certainly not miserable. I just wanted to point out the complete lack of intelligence in your previous post. Then you follow it up with a ranting, alomost comedic post that made absolutely no sense at all. A member of an AA Group? Not likely. Again though, even if I were, what would that have to do with anything? You give responsible, recreational users a bad name. If I was trying to upset you, and believe me I'm not, then it must have worked.
Kid--for what it is worth, yes I have partaken. AND I even inhaled :). BUT that has no bearing on my opposition to legalizing pot for any other reason than medical use.

Am I missing something about this article? I could have sworn it mentions nothing about dope. Are we comparing dope to wheel cleaner now? Yikes.

localguy: if, when marijuana is involved, 1 death is 1 too many, what IS your limit for those involving alcohol?? when do YOU start the campaign to prohibit alcohol??

just curious too localguy: have you ever smoked marijauna??

And besides, bad drivers are still bad no matter the influence.

"talking monkey--change your name, it is an insult to monkeys. Careful when you post things your not sure of. If you think driving while high doesn't increase the chances of causing an accident, then your dead wrong."
I already posted this, but apparently someone was too angry too assimilate its meaning.
"Only downside I can honestly see is while under the influence, people can get stupid. Oh wait, they do that with alcohol, with too often deadly results." -Talking_Monkey
Well, localguy, you have tried to upset me. You failed, but I know that a simple piece of logic would help you understand why. Miserable people tend tpo spread their misery. You sir, seem pretty angry. Are you by chance a member of an AA group? One of those guys that talk the talk but don't walk the walk in real life? A "fake it til you make it" kinda guy? I am just wondering, due to your angry response. Your anger is keeping you from being open-minded, unaware of simple little facts and details that make up our world. You may not like it, but the want (or need) for pot is never going away unless people like you cease to breed hate and discontent in your children and others.
If I am wrong about you, and you are really an upstanding, morally non-ambiguous, kind, caring, willing-to-give-everything-for-nothing-in-return kind of guy, then I stand corrected and I apologize. In the meantime, spread your misery elsewhere. The world doesn't need it.

Hey, like is said "To each their own"
As long as each is informed enough to make their decisions =) Now everyone can go get a legal buzz like pot, except apparently you can OD on the synthetic...is it synthetic? Probably, that's why people are getting so messed up. Smoke a joint, no harm no foul

the logic behind that krsmith is that the WORST thing that can happen to a user of marijuana is arrest, incarceration, and loss of freedom. the worst that can happen to the user of ANY other drug be it alcohol, heroin, crack, meth, oxy, vicadin IS DEATH. no arrest, incarceration, and loss of freedom is worse than death. death is not even POTENTIAL for someone smoking marijuana.

bob marley, janis joplin, willie nelson, bob dylan, neil young, jim morrison, pink floyd, kurt cobain are just a SAMPLE of marijuana smokers in the music industry. they all had raw talent that cant be denied. it also cant be denied that they smoked marijuana regularly.

talking monkey--change your name, it is an insult to monkeys. Careful when you post things your not sure of. If you think driving while high doesn't increase the chances of causing an accident, then your dead wrong. I'll introduce you to a family of a little old lady who was killed in a care wreck when a kid (not the KID) was high and didn't see her coming. I'm sure there are other examples everyday. And don't come back with the boring dribble that at least it doesn't kill as many people as alcohol. 1 death is 1 too many. Don't think for 1 minute that it is OK to drive while high (or work, or take care of kids). Instead of trying to look cool, be sure you think before post. I cannot believe I have to post this.

Good point Spark!

The "logic" behind that comment is ridiculous no matter how much I liked Jimmy Carter. It doesn't mean everything he says is "logical." Remember, at one time he was a politican.

Interesting. I'm not aware of too man musicians out there that write their best music while inhaling wheel cleaner.

I prefer musicians that play with raw talent.

I heard this song was written in a haze of drugs...

Imagine

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

-John Lennon

"What a world it would be..." - Talking_Monkey

good post optimism. you would love talking_monkey:) a monkey he certainly is not;) the creativity you enjoyed was not an isolated instance. lots of our best music has been the result of marijauna:) it certainly makes it more enjoyable to listen to:)

localguy seriously. you keep comparing a pot smoker to a crack smoker. have you EVER smoked either?? ive smoked both, crack when i was drunk on alcohol of course, and i can tell you the effects are drastically dift, and REALLY not comparable.you are correct when you say the crackhead can argue the same logic. ive said before that if you want pot illegal, fine, but then ALL DRUGS with POTENTIAL negatives should be illegal. if you are going to allow americans to choose alcohol/tobacco(the two biggest killers of all drugs) well then it would only be fair to have the option to choose pot. i dont want to campaign against alcohol. i believe in the 'free' united states of america we have certain rights that pertain to our persons. that is, its NO ONES business what i do to my own body. ITS MY BODY and i dont need anyone to protect me from myself. the ramifications of taking away those rights of personal freedom are worse in this country than the potential negative of excersizing those personal rights, even if the potential negative is death to an innocent victim, i.e. drunk driving fatality. i will NEVER rally to prohibit alcohol. that would make me like many people who discuss this with me, a hypocrite, and that i am not.

glad ya like that fox news dig;) did you ever have any luck with google and finding a marijuana overdose victim?? i havent looked for an alcohol one but im sure they are out there;)

krsmith: im sure that is one of the most ignorant things youve heard. everything is ignorant if you refuse to think about the logic behind it. for what its worth that jc was for jimmy carter not jesus;)

TALKINGMONKEY ~ your words were perfect! I know if I knew you personally, I would love you! ;0) I have said this before, when I was in college, my bff and I took some of her hubby's weed and thought we would just sit and be silly...well, we both had papers to write for psychology, and I tell you what, when we read our papers that we ended up writing while high, after getting into a deep conversation, we both were absolutely amazed by how we were able to construct a paper with all we felt and knew so well in such a way that we never could have expressed verbally. It took the noise away, and literally let us just be in the moment. Now, I am not, nor never have been a habitual pot smoker, but, I think if people don't abuse it, and smoke it, life would be a lot easier and more clear...I don't know, but with that experience in my mind...that's what makes sense to me. And that is with anything .. everything in moderation! Two people that are married and have every right to have a sexual relationship can end up having problems because one might want to over 'sex' and then it leads to an addiction...like cheating, raping their spouse (I know that sounds funny but it happens) or making their spouse do things they don't want to do but are made to feel like they have to. Eating...same thing. Food is suppose to be to survive...do any one of us just eat to survive? We eat things because we love the taste! That could be considered abuse as well. NOTHING is ever black and white, and those people out there that think it is, are very miserable human beings living in constant fear of doing something wrong their entire lives...I can bet my bottom dollar on it, even if they don't mentally realize it. Their life is lead by fear, and I hate to bring religion into this, but those are the most effected. I am very spiritual, but have not, nor never will attend a church. I believe it is all a cult....a bunch of followers of what someone else is telling them. I would LOVE to meet a true Indian and have them as my 'savior'...now they know how to connect with their soul! And remember, I said TRUE! I once talked with an older man, full Indian, years ago, and it was the most awesome conversation I have ever had with someone about faith! I just wish it wouldn't have been while I was on vacation...because I have no idea who he is and probably will never see him again, but his words will never leave my mind/heart....and think back to what the Indians lives consisted of...
Now about these new 'trend' drugs, people with inner battles are always going to try and mask them, if that is what they started out doing, and when the supply or money to cover the pain becomes harder to get, they will move on to something more attainable.... such as this stuff....such as sniffing gas, spray paint, glue..what ever. Until those people love themselves and are at peace inside, no war on drugs is ever going to stop the 'doper'.

You have an excellent point, localguy. Illegalize alcohol. But make MJ legal, because it does not kill, does not make people crash into others, helps those in emotional disquiet rest at ease, makes sick people feel better, has the potential to make taxes cheaper (and easier to live with), stops wars, makes love, stops hate, crosses racial boundaries, makes putting up with the old lady (or old man)easier, makes people think about things they would not ordinarily think about, like god, money, people's motivations, emapthy, religion, arts, TV, movies, radio, computers, governments, countries, parenting....
Only downside I can honestly see is while under the influence, people can get stupid. Oh wait, they do that with alcohol, with too often deadly results.
As far as LSD, prescription pills, heroin or cocaine is concerned, treatment, not incarceration (which makes people hate and will likely do hard drugs again to escape the hate or the real reason they were using it to begin with).

"dope" became that as a result of "doping" down emotional disquiet and intelligence. Lots of peeps don't like what they see and are powerless to change anything so they "dope" to forget. Cheaper than getting institutionalized. Give people something to fight, like bad parenting, and they will have a "life". But maybe that's just me, a human being human like anyone else on this planet.

kid---forgot to add at the end. Right on the money re: Fox News comment. Made me laugh :). As usual, it's a challange to debate with you.

Kid--don't twist my words. My point was pretty clear. It is YOUR agenda to legalize pot. I oppose that. Maybe you would oppose crack becoming legal, but the crackheads wouldn't. The number of od's, deaths, lives ruined, etc makes no difference to the methhead or the drunk alcoholic. Why are those peoples personal choices any less valid than yours or mine?? You continually use the same arguements regarding alcohol and how much more harmful that is than pot. Maybe you should stop campaigning for pot to be legal and start campaigning to make alcohol illegal again.

"They don't call it DOPE for nothing!"
That's my favorite.

'the punishment for using a drug should not be worse than the effects of the drug' jc.
That is about the most ignorant comment I have ever heard!

Gee, if they legalized pot then there would be no need or want for K2. Can anyone say logical???

localguy: please find me one person who has lost a child to an overdose of marijuana. please. do you think it would take me more, or less, time to find one who has lost a child to alcohol?? a. legal. DRUG.

if you are comparing a crack/meth user to a marijuana smoker it shows that you truly arent looking at this with an open mind. the TRUTH is that alcohol is a more fair comparison to those drugs than marijuana is. addiction levels. potential for overdose. lives ruined. actual deaths caused. that DRUG is already legal. my argument, that you CHOOSE not to see, is the EXACT SAME one they used to RE-legalize alcohol. its called history and believe it or not, should be examined and used to form an opinion. if you dont take all the FACTS into consideration...well...we would all be right on everything then and we'd all be employable by fox news;)

FACT ~ sorry about the confusion...I was just a young girl who lived in Milton at the time this happened, and drugs were definitely the 'talk' back then...I guess I stand corrected, but I am guessing what I thought, is far less dangerous than what really was happening....

lmfao
just as dangerous as pot!
how dangerous is pot,exactly?
does it make you go all "fruity in the loops?" all "CRAZY" and play jazz music and stay out all night?

lol optimism
you sound like you're straight out of the 1950's "reefer madness" screening
wake up!

People want to feel different- some drink. some smoke. everyone looks for their own blance, get over it people

TO EACH THEIR OWN

Kid--can the crackhead or methhead use your arguement as to why crack or meth should be legalized? Or do you just have your personal agenda in mind? You want pot to be legal. They want (insert illegal drug of choice here) to be legal. The drug war matters and makes a difference. Ask any parent who has lost a child to an OD. I bet there response will include 'I wish there could have been something more done in the war on drugs to keep this out of my childs hands'. Their perception of the drug war will be skewed, but no more than your perception that the drug war is a failure and that pot should be legal. No more than my perception is skewed because I think that pot should remain illegal. All I'm saying is our opinions differ. Your opinion is on 1 extreme side, mine falls somewhere in the middle (I am totally in favor of legalizing pot for medidcal use), and others fall way on the extreme other side of your view and want to make every single thing illegal (taking the freedom of choice away that you are so vigorously pursuing for your own drug of choice).

You know that thing between your two ears? For some it's really small and doesn't work well. It's called a brain. This has nothing to do with the war on drugs, or blaming law enforcement, etc. It's called a lack of intelligence, common sense and flat out stupidity. If you want to ingest tire cleaner, I suggest you stop at auto zone and do some research on what the product is intended for. I'll give you a hint. It's meant for a round thing that makes you move.

HEREWEGOAGAIN is right. What if the cops know that 2 people overdosed on this and say nothing. Then this week some kid dies from it. The parents find out the cops knew and hadn't warned them. Hypothetically they had seen the rim cleaner in their room the day before. Kid says its for his car and they ignore it. Now the information is out there and they could of stopped that. Jesus, cut the cops and media a break. They're trying to help educate us!

I can only speak for myself, I grew up with oxygen and food, no drugs or smoke.

Todd's looks, geez, lighten up guy, chill out.

It is SPICE 2K!!! That is the name of this drug. The shorten form of it is 2K or SPICE!!! It is not SPACE!!! GBL is an imported cleaner. It comes from Poland. Both of these drugs are absolutely dangerous. Though both drugs have been around for a while, They have not been a problem in our communities until recently.

As far as knowing your kids and whether or not they are on drugs.... You don't always know..... In fact, This could have have been the first time they used and it just went totally wrong!!! As a parent, You want to give your teenage children or young adult charge of their life. Unfortunately, you don't always know what they are up to. That doesn't make them a bad parent. This article was put out to warn people of what could happen... and to inform you of what is happening in your community...It is in hopes that it doesn't get to a situation like with that 13 yr. old the OD'ed on Oxy. Use the tool and stop complaining!! Watch your kids from this point out!! You would have complained if it was your kid the overdosed and died, that the cops didn't warn you if this article didnt come out!!!

optimism: There never was a pizza place in Milton selling drugs...you dolt. They were accused of laundring mob money. At least if your going to post something make sure you have your facts correct.

svrwthr-
Um, first off,how do you know who here is a parent?
Second, I see people here swooning and crying for PARENTS to DO SOMETHING about their kid's drug abuse. HELLO?? The people in the article are over 25!!!!

I would presume few would-be users are getting their drug information from the Gazette. These details are for the rest of the population. The media has many issues to be faulted for, I do not believe this to be one of them.

localguy: yes. that is why having pot illegal is silly. people who want dift highs will always search for a dift high. what illegal marijuana does is put those of us who smoke it responsibly, who are law biding tax paying AMERICAN citizens, in a 'criminal' element. we cant go to the liquor store. THEY WONT LET US PAY TAXES ON IT. it puts us at risk of arrest which means loss of freedom, loss of money, loss of many other things. im not talking about selling, or driving while high, im talking about the mere POSSESSION of the plant puts at risk. 'the punishment for using a drug should not be worse than the effects of the drug' jc.

your point is also the link between these two people and the 'war on drugs'. it does not matter how many people you arrest. how many years people spend in jail. how much money you spend trying to eliminate drug use through police agencies. people. will. always. want. to. get. high.

This is nothing new. Rush Limbag has been abusing legal drugs for years.

If you can't tell your kid is on drugs, then you really never knew them to start with. That's just bad parenting. You should be sued.

Just as dangerous as pot????
When is the last time you read of someone overdosing on pot? When's the last time you heard of someone crashing their car on pot? When's the last time you heard of someone beating their wife because they were high on pot? Seems to me that this stuff is dangerous when pot isn't!!! If people smoked pot instead of drinking alcohol there would be a drastic reduction in vehicle accidents, domestic violence and the need for law enforcement. Oh, maybe that's why pot is still illegal? STOP THE WAR ON DRUGS!!!STOP THE MARIJUANA PROHIBITION!!! RE-LEGALIZE MARIJUANA!!!

I tis called space and it is just as dangerous as dangerous as pot! I have heard it called many things: spice, orbit, fake baker...
There are many different levels of the substance and there are different variants of highs. This is one things I hate knowing about, I hate that my kids know about it too! This space/spice stuff is just as potent as pot and just as dangerous! I don't care what you call it, it is pot without the illegal aspect!

As long as no one licks the toad, I will be satisified.

a few of you below must be completely out of your mind. The war on drugs has no more to do with this than it does will all of the people who 'huff' spray paint to get high. There is absolutely no correlation between the war on drugs and these 2 idiots looking for a way to get high. I've been wanting to ask this question for a long time-if marijauna were legal, wouldn't there still be people looking for cheaper ways to get high?? Coke vs crack, crack vs meth, pot vs spay paint, pot vs tire cleaner, and yes, pot vs alcohol (or sub in alcohol for any above)? Legal or not doesn't matter to those that search for a better buzz.

Optimism, exactly! My hubby tells me the same, I also have high anxiety (isn't that a movie?). Yes, a parent needs to take responsibility for the internet, so do the schools, library, friends houses, etc. Kids don't normally do this crap at home, they do it away from home. My kids are all grown, but this article does amplify these drugs. JMO

I just have to add this....a memory just came back with talking about weed growing in your back forty. I remember when I was a young girl, i had a horse that I just adored and he was my best friend. Well, one day he was seriously acting really funny....rolling all over and just crazy...and I went to get my mom and we looked through the pasture to see what if anything he may have gotten into...and she found wild marijuana growing and was convinced that is what he ate! I will never forget that, it was funny! Not sure if that is really what happened or not being we never actually saw him eating it....but it kinda makes sense! We pulled it all out btw! lol.

Well, I have no idea what the name of it is, being I just learned about it after reading this, but my sister said a kid offered her this at a party, which she declined (good girl) because she is terrified of drugs, and she said they all call it space....so, whatever it is called, it doesn't matter, it's bad!
JJL ~ I totally agree with you! If there is something that is growing in your back forty that isn't laced with anything and is god's natural gift (lol..had to say that) why? OH WHY? Does it have to be illegal???? My husband, who has NEVER once smoked even a cig in his life, has often told me...the one with an over active imagination that turns everything into an anxiety attack...I should smoke weed...lol. I have done it in my youth, didn't like it, so it's of no interest to me, but I do believe that there is no reason for it to be illegal either! It does far less damage to a person than alcohol which needs to be ingested in a greater amount than weed to get that euphoric feeling....yes, there should be an age limit on it, just as there is on cigs and alcohol, but, come on....it's probably the most natural 'drug' out there ... and seriously, I don't think I have ever heard of a raging pot head (and I know a LOT of them throughout my life)...alcohol and all these other things people put into their bodies for a high alters moods in negative ways ... most of the side effects are irritability and mental disconnect.
JUSTME ~ RIGHT?? They basically just did supply the website...without actually writing the name.... the article said they get it on the internet... But, then again, if they are going to do it, they are going to do it I guess. I am a firm believer that people who do anything in excess (eating, sex, exercise etc...included) have a problem somewhere, and do need help, but we can't be the gate keeper and fix everyone's problems...they have to want to be fixed on their own...what we need to do, is be more aware of parents not doing their jobs, and raising children who aren't being taken care of and REPEATEDLY report them until the cycle ends.... heck, I don't even do drugs, and don't have all the problems that a lot of these parents do that allow their kids to run rampant and beat them etc....and some days I can't handle my kids! I can't imagine what it would be like to be under the influence of a substance that increase anger??!!

Well I see many parents are slightly behind their own brains on the prevention of drug use that posted here. You people need to be up to date and do researching on your own for the protection of your children. It's called ignorance if you don't. Know how and where they can get it. Know what they can get and use.

As for advertising by the press, obviously it is not for the kids because the kids already know the names and where to get the substance. It is more for you parents and your awareness. K2 has been around for some time now and GBL is something new that can only be purchased online and from out of country places. It has been around since the early 90's.

Parents be more aware instead of relying on the gazette to be your only informer. BTW I will add Salvia to this list that kids do use that you parents don't know about. It is regulated as of now but usage and possession over the age of 18 is still legal.

Good idea, housewife, and I agree. The press does go too far. Why don't they just list the websites so kids can get some of this crap? JMO

TIRE CLEANER? Really?
Dude is injecting TIRE CLEANER.
I can understand utter despondence, depression, and fear.
But injecting tire cleaner- anyone who does this is a few fries short of a happymeal. It sounds like a Darwin award waiting to happen.
I mean, come ON. Maybe they should being back the flourescent green Mr Yuk stickers from the 1970's.

i believed then and i believe now, that had we legalized Marijuana 20yrs ago or more, we wouldn't be seeing these overdoses as we see them today, most kids would have try it and forget about it,...it's not there taste for the drugs that these kids seek, it's there voices that they want heard, and they will rebel against anyone who tells them differently,..look at it this way, would ya rather have kids smoking CRACK, shooting up HEROIN or tripping all day on PCP OPPOSED TO SMOKING WEED?... it's really a no brained..

And no, It's called "Spice" , not "space". Spice, you know, like the taste? Like, it's an herb/it's a SPICE? Get it?

3 cheers to your war on drugs

DUE...your right! It is called space...and this is only one of many items sold at those cigarette depot smoke shops.....I PERSONALLY have heard that they sell prescriptions under the counter...one of the biggest sellers is Viagra! And it is funny that when you walk in these places they are usually owned by people of another country, and it is probably very easy for them to obtain drugs illegally from their native country where regulations aren't like ours! Scary what they get away with in those places....it used to just be the pizza place in Milton years ago that sold drugs....remember that?

APARENTWHOCARES ~ I thought the exact same thing when I started reading this. This if anything, was just a HUGE educational read for those desperate drug addicts who didn't know about this! I had NO IDEA about this and my 17 year old sister did! And she said someone told her it is way stronger then marijuana!

The thing is legal substances (oxycontin) have caused the most recent OD in Milton, and have caused many others. Possibly more than heroin, the illegal substance ? More treatment money is the answer, not more uneforceable, expensive laws.

I think its called "SPACE", not "SPICE".

Okay, so now we are just advertizing how and where to get these drugs...sometimes I think the press goes too far. I do see why parents should know about these drugs. But to post it online where any teenager can see it is beyond me. There has to be better ways of informing parents of these drugs, then giving kids yet another way to get high.