Janesville School District officials debating fate of $3 million leftover from 2010-11
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JANESVILLE Janesville School District officials expect to close the books on the 2010-11 fiscal year in better shape than budgeted, about $3 million better.
That's not to say the district's coffers are not brimming with cash, but this gives the school board another tool—potentially—to address its financial problems this year and next.
The current year's budget needs $2.1 million to come into balance. Board members are debating the best way to solve that problem while casting a wary eye toward 2012-13, which has a projected deficit of $9 million.
Board members on Monday suggested they might be forced to lay off 120 or more workers to balance next year's budget, on the heels of eliminating 100 full-time-equivalent positions this year.
The school board last fall designated $2.2 million from its reserves to moderate the property tax increase. Turns out, that money didn't have to be spent to balance the year-end books, and another $975,000 also went unspent.
District Chief Financial Officer Keith Pennington listed several over-estimates on the spending side and unexpected revenue increases that added up to the positive budget news.
Pennington said he estimated expenses conservatively, and he'd rather err on that side of the equation than to come up short.
All this is according to preliminary estimates. Audited figures won't be available until November.
About $648,000 of the good news came when the city of Janesville unexpectedly closed a tax increment financing district. The board already has applied that amount to its 2011-12 budget deficit, but the remaining money could easily take care of the rest of the $2.1 million deficit.
If only it were that simple.
The money resides in a place often called the Fund 10 balance. Using this fund balance creates a problem for the next year's budget. That's because it's one-time money. It covers expenditures for one year, leaving no money to continue covering the same expense in succeeding years.
The school board already has designated about $4 million from the Fund 10 balance for the 2011-12 budget, and that amount is part of the 2012-13 deficit. The rest of next year's budget deficit, about $5 million, is a projected increase in salary and benefits, Pennington told the school board Monday.
Board member Kevin Murray is interested in using the unspent money to balance this year's budget.
Murray understands that using the Fund 10 balance now just postpones the problem to next year, "but punting down the field sometimes is a good offense," Murray said. "I just want to get this school year off and running."
Murray proposes balancing the budget with a combination of higher taxes and Fund 10 balance, but he is open to hearing about possible budget cuts to close the budget gap.
So far, however, no one has made any specific proposals, Murray noted.
Dave Parr, president of the Janesville Education Association, said he'd prefer higher taxes now, saving the fund balance to soften the blow of possible layoffs in 2012-13.
Parr said options for future school boards will be limited if this board doesn't raise taxes because the district loses some of its taxing ability when it doesn't tax as high as allowed under the tax levy cap.
Board President Bill Sodemann said he's willing to use more fund balance, but he's also interested in softening the blow two years from now. That's when the teachers' contract runs out and the board no longer has to punt. That's because Wisconsin Act 10 will take effect, giving the board the authority to fix its budget problems by imposing changes on employees, such as making them pay more for their benefits.
Sodemann said the district should work to make sure those changes aren't too drastic.
"It won't be pleasant," Sodemann said. "I'm not trying to be threatening or alarmist, but the numbers are what they are."
FUND 10 AND ITS BALANCE
Some basics about the so-called Fund 10 balance, according to district officials:
-- Fund 10 and Fund 27 are the district's operational funds. "The fund balance of Fund 10," as it is properly called, refers to the amount of money available in those funds at any given time. The balance fluctuates through the fiscal year as revenue is received and bills are paid.
-- The balance is not a savings account with a stable amount. It's more like a checking account, with income added and expenses deducted throughout the year. In recent years it has dipped as low as $3 million and reached as high as $28 million.
-- The balance covers unexpected expenses, and it helps the district avoid short-term borrowing to maintain cash flow, something many local governments do. The district hasn't had to do this since 2001.
-- A healthy balance keeps the district's bond rating high, which saves large amounts in interest payments when the district sells bonds to pay for large expenditures.
-- The Fund 10 balance is audited once a year. The audit yields an amount for the last day of the fiscal year, June 30. This year's audit is still going on, but the district estimates a June 30, 2011, fund balance of $28.1 million.
-- Parts of the Fund 10 balance are reserved by board policy. One reserve amounts to a sum of 19 percent to 23 percent of the annual operating budget. (This year's budget will be around $100 million.) Another reserve is in the amount of 20 percent to 25 percent of the district's projected annual health-care claims, for use if the district's self-funded health insurance plan experiences an unanticipated expense.
-- The board can designate parts of the fund balance for a specific purpose. This year, for example, about $4 million was designated to help fill a budget deficit. The board in recent years has used the fund balance to moderate its property tax increases.


Aug 27, 2011 at 6:32 a.m.
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Oh, and fear, drop shot off the ledges.... works every time! :)
Aug 27, 2011 at 6:30 a.m.
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Very true youkillme. Could have been anybody.
Aug 27, 2011 at 12:33 a.m.
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You kill- it was on the news tonight. I laughed my butt off. then it showed governor reading a book to a group of African American school kids, He looked like he was struggling with it, how uncomfy do you think those kids were let alone Sctty? Plus there were probably kids in there with a better grasp of reading than he.
Aug 26, 2011 at 6:46 p.m.
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fear-Your hate for Walker has clouded any chance that you could actually use your intelligence and common sense to add anything meaningful to these discussions. The sad thing is you might have something worth hearing.
Aug 26, 2011 at 4 p.m.
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Unclesmoothie, how do they know protesters glued the doors shut? They have a video showing a lone person doing this mischieve. That's it. It actually sounds more like the false flag shenanigans of the Koch Bros. Yet my statement has as much validity as the newspaper confidently reporting that protesters glued the doors shut - None.
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:52 p.m.
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Just how to catch Bass on Delavan:)
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:36 p.m.
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I agree, bad apples in every bunch. And I promise, no more tips on how to wreck locks. Or other things. ;)
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:32 p.m.
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Fair enough Uncle, Like I said bad apples in every bunch , doesnt and shouldnt take away from the larger message here.
Dont be giving any ideas about "domestic terrorism" and how to ideas about how to wreck a door!!:)
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:30 p.m.
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Dont make assumptions that those protesters are all teachers. they are people that care about public ed. I believe that protesting this man wherever he goes is a great lesson in civics and excersising their first amendment rights. I also thik=nk that just rolling over and taking this mans draconian cuts without a fight doesnt teach these kids very much either. The kids need to know that these people are more interested in gicing tax breaks to the very wealthy than insuring a quality education. Part of insuring a quality education is paying teachers what they are worth, I know many hate that , I think that it is TRUTH!! If we are so broke then start collecting unpaid taxes from TAX cheats, as AG Van Holland to do his job and close the budget gap. How many overpaid teachers do you think are on the list of tax cheats? How many ""job creators""? We dont need to raise taxes, we just dont need new tax breaks, and we need people to just pay the taxes they owe and the problem would be solved!!
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:26 p.m.
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If you squeeze Lock-Tite or Crazy Glue INTO a lock hole, the lock is ruined. I don't know if that's what they did, but that's what I would have done. So yes, I would say vandalism. Locks aint cheap.
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:24 p.m.
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LOL uncle, I dont think so, judging by the chants and the signs in the video:)
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:22 p.m.
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Is gluing the doors shut vandalism? I would say if they were spray painting hateful remarks, or toiletpapering the trees then I would call that vandalism. Gluing the doors shut , vandalism? Maybe technically , but realistically? I would say that the lessons being learned by the kids watching this for the most part are a great lesson in fighting back for what you believe in. I wouldnt advocate gluing the doors shut, but you have bad apples in every bunch , would you agree?
Not vandalism Uncle, not by a long shot. Kinda funny though. Wonder why he doesnt go speak at some public schools? Maybe because he wouldnt be well recieved? Again I believe that is why this man is a coward, if he is so confident in his policies being better for public schools and educators then why is he at a private Catholic school? I think we all know why.
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:21 p.m.
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Or maybe their problem is with the Catholics.
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:20 p.m.
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It appears that hate has clouded their vision.
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:20 p.m.
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I agree, I am no fan of Walker's. But I still don't think that the protesters were setting a very good example for a school full of kids. The kids they claim to care so much about.
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:18 p.m.
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I watched the Video, and those are obviously public school protesters.
What I wonder is if he is so proud of his positions then why does he need to sneak in and out of every appearance? He should walk in right through the people he disagrees with, I believe him to be a coward that just wants to be around those that agree with him. I still remember being at the Forward Janesville protest and the Walker Motorcade tried to sneak around the back of the Holiday inn away from most of the protesters, a very cowardly move for a man that loves his gold plated Flag lapel pin made in China. If he is such a freedom lover and believes in our democracy, why is he so afraid of those that disagree with him? Why be so sneaky? Remember he was the one fooled by a prank caller that suggested planing agent provacateurs in the protests to cause trouble. I still believe that he should have been at very least investigated for that one.
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:15 p.m.
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I dunno, but goin to a school where classes are in session seems a bit extreme. I will add that it did not say where the protesters were from, whether they were parents of students or just outsiders. I don't see where vandalizing the school and disrupting classes comes off as an appropriate way to protest. I don't get the logic behind it. Do you think those actions are appropriate to teach children?
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:10 p.m.
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Uncle- is that harm? Maybe a fire code violation, but kind of funny if you ask me. I also find it interesting that was at a oprivate school as well. That is generally a very conservative environment. Hardly harming anyone though, they just dont want him in their school, cant say that I blame them, sine he is the most anti-public ed gove we have ever had IMO.
Still looking for some statements or web pages of people being physically harmed by protesters.
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:07 p.m.
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Karl-
I apologize for my mis statement. I read that somewhere and should have researched it before posting as fact. My bad.
Could you please speak to the FACTS posted about the district re-imbursing their HIGHEST paid employees for their PHDs? I think that many taxpayers might have a pretty big problem with that considering the dire striaghts that the district is in, especially since many of the quality administrators have been leaving for better situations. Is that the return on investment that you were hoping for? Why are administrators any different than teachers in this respect?
Also Karl, why is it that most seem to avoid the truth behind the fund 10 SURPLUS, because thats exactly what it is. Please explain not what it is, but how a 30 million dollar account was built over the years in a district that seems to constantly have budget issues. I as a taxpayer wonder how can that be? Why are teachers constantly put forth in the public as the problem and the cause of the budgetary problems here, when essentially their self funded health insurance has allowed the JSD to build a reserve fund that generally sits between25-30 million dollars. I just wonder why the JEA is called upon to open their contracts by the Scott Walker clones on the board while the fund 10 surplus sits there, and many of your fellow members continue to say that we somehow cannot touch that fund because it is the "districts checking account". The negative PR put forth constantly by many of the board that the financial problems this district faces are because the teachers wont open their contract, is disgusting IMO.
I dont want a private message saying lets get together and talk in private about what fund 10 is and how it was made 2 be/. I want a CLEAR explanation of where the money comes from, and why it is like pulling teeth to get this board to use it to plug holes?
I am certain that Jim Reif (fbcoach66) could and would provide and honest decription for us, I know that i have not gotten very far asking board members to explain.. Seems to be a very dangerous, dishonest shell game to me. I am tired of the intentional misleading going on in this community by those in charge of the purse strings. How is anyone to believe that the budget projections each and every year are nothing more than a scare tactic used as a negotiating tactic to bully teachers into agreeing to the terms set forth by the very conservative anti-education members of the School board.
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:06 p.m.
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Speaking of harm by protesters...... I just read that the doors to a Milwaukee school were glued shut by people protesting a visit by Walker. Then they showed up it says they surrounded the school Thursday night and returned on Friday to continue. A comment by the school's president said " We teach our students lessons of respect. What we are seeing here today is going to be very difficult to explain to our students. To interfere with education in order to make a political point is shameful." Funny thing is, it's a private Catholic school. The story is on wisn.com
Aug 26, 2011 at 2:46 p.m.
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Shrek...please provide your sources to back up your statement "afraid of being physically harmed, just like the protesters did to people in Madison." The only reference I found referring to the protest in Masison was "For the most part, people have been very respectful and very orderly," said Elise Schaffer, public information officer for the Dane County Sheriff’s Department. "It certainly has been a very peaceful protest."
Aug 26, 2011 at 2:45 p.m.
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Who was ""physically harmed"" by the protesters in Madison??? Please Shrek you constant avoidance of subjects after you bring them up is laughable at best. I also enjoy your addressing your freedom to deny service to whom you choose, your silence says all I need to assume. If you are so confident in your freedom why so cowardly when answerimng questions? I know its off topic, BUT you brought up your freedom as a business owner, not me. Stop making excuses for tax cheats, if you want teachers to pay their fair share, then business should too.
Aug 26, 2011 at 2:02 p.m.
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Good point, lets stay on topic.
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The teachers should be willing to pay a small portion for their lavish benefits, same as the private sector now that their salaries are in line with the private sector. The other choice would be to accept lesser benefits such as having a 401K with 3% matching and insurance with higher copays and less coverage. The teachers really should be willing to step up and help keep the educational system at a high level. Instead all we hear is how education will be worse if the teachers have to pay for a small percentage of their benefits. I really don't understand this logic, it would seem that they are saying that they won't do as good of job if they don't get what they want. If that is really the case, I say "Shame, Shame, Shame"
Aug 26, 2011 at 1:04 p.m.
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Stay on topic now, Shrek. Maybe you should get back to your business. It could be getting robbed by some angry liberal upset about your prices.
Aug 26, 2011 at 12:45 p.m.
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Actually not afraid of losing business, afraid of being physically harmed, just like the protesters did to people in Madison.
Aug 26, 2011 at 12:36 p.m.
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So why all the scare tactics before the last budget was even completed? Is there truly any reason the teachers should open up their contracts now, especially after this public display of incompetance and direspect? Maybe they should send one their Math teachers downtown to help them out with their numbers...I'm sure he/she would be happy to volunteer the time. Also, it seems that some of the school board members need to ask someone or find a way to do their homework before publicly announcing their budgets. As I read over the last week's articles and comments on this budget deficit, it only seemed to tarnish JSD's teacher reputations in a public forum. An apology might be in order...
Aug 26, 2011 at 10:59 a.m.
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No one on the School Board has an iPad that was furnished by the district. Be careful when making false innuendos, as one does not know who is watching.
There are many false statements used on these blogs, so exercise caution in what you believe. It is alright to state your beliefs, but make sure the content is accurate.
If you are not sure, ask a board member or someone else in the district, and if that is an uncomfortable method, find a way to do your homework.
Karl Dommershausen
Janesville School Board Commissioner
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Aug 26, 2011 at 9:39 a.m.
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Shrek -- All you have done with you posts is expose the fact that when someone attacks another group of people for their beliefs, those people will get defensive. Note that I stated the fact that you attacked the group of people, and not their beliefs. In doing so, you received numerous post that, in your mind, were personal attacks.
When acting as a rabble-rouser, with little interest other than to instigate a response, how would you not expect people to be defensive of their beliefs?
You made the following comment: "They are a bunch of selfish, greedy, rude people who would sell out their grandmother if it made them look good to their friends."
Yet, you think that you have exposed 'liberals' as "Mean spirited individuals that will personally attack anyone that disagrees with you."
No, you sir are the one that needs to "Look in the mirror at yourselves and re-evaluate if your lives would be better without the anger and hatred of others."
"Some people are so easy to make look like fools."
Especially when the disingenuous intent of the comments being made later reveal the person's blatant hypocrisy.
Aug 26, 2011 at 8:07 a.m.
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Shrek says he doesn't want liberals in his business, but he is, in fact, terrified of losing their business. That's why he is too scared to name his business for us. He is afraid that the liberals he claims to so want out of his establishment will actually stay away, and then he will go belly up. He is just plain too afraid to name his business, or to tell the truth--that he wants and needs the business of liberals.
Aug 26, 2011 at 8:04 a.m.
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Thank you. With a couple of over the top posts, I exposed you people for what you are. Mean spirited individuals that will personally attack anyone that disagrees with you. Look in the mirror at yourselves and re-evaluate if your lives would be better without the anger and hatred of others. Have a nice day.
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Some people are so easy to make look like fools.
Aug 26, 2011 at 12:32 a.m.
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Shrek you constant labelling of liberals as rude and unbecoming people is a silly contention on your part.
Since you see America as a nation of freedoms , and you as business owner reserve the right to refuse service to anyone you wish for any reason, I have a SERIOUS question for you. Do you believe then based on your statement that your ""freedom"" allows you to refuse service to someone on the basis of race?? I believe that based on your statements that is a very legitamite question. I dont necessarily mean YOU specifically, I mean more of as a general statement, since it is your right to refuse service , should a business owners freedom to refuse service be limitless? If someone that owns a business is a racist and wants to refuse seervice based on race should they be able to do so? Is that on your list of protected ""freedoms""?
I also find your statements about your business to be funny. If you only want conservatives to patronize your business, why wouldnt you reveal the name of your place of business? I am sure that many on here would show you loyalty and many ""rude liberals"" that you hate so much for their difference of opinion with you would GLADLY stay away. Why is it that so many folks hate disagreement? Why is it that someone who disagrees with you is labelled? I dont think conservatives are necessarily wrong I just think they have different ideas. just as many others do? I just dont get all the hatred and name calling to justify your own opinion.
Aug 26, 2011 at 12:22 a.m.
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I find the ideological garble fascinating. Predicatbly Shrek makes excuses for businesses cheating on their taxes. My viewpoint on that is if you can't pay your taxes, don't go into business. I am all for busineses being successful, but pay your taxes, stop telling others to quit whining about things and pay your TAXES!!
Then on the other side you see many of the regular teachers(whom I always support) speaking of how to spend the """extra 3 million""" folks need to read a little more carefully, there was a 975,000 surplus, not three million, that number is derived from the fund balance that was allocated to help fix the budget hole. The 2.2 million from fund 10 will and should be put back there, or simply cut in half and added to the current 975,000 to plug the newest hole so we can stop the silliness of asking the teachers to open their contract.
What I get sick of is all of these ""projections"" of the budget defecits from year to year. Who the heck is doing the math downtown? Time to hire a new accountant dont you think??
I think the main question that some of you should ask is why is it that the school board screams and cries about defecits each and every year has a 28-30 million dollar surplus or ""checking account"" as some like to call it. For a district that seems to project into the red each and every year I find that beyond fascinating. Maybe the bigger question should be is how that fund has been built up and maintained. Many of the posters on this board know. The teachers in Janesville have a self funded health care program, each and every year the part of the teachers salary and benefit packages goes to pay these costs, yet there is almost always extra money there. For me that is the main reason why I have a problem with asking the teachers to pay more into their premiums. The current system is actually what keeps the district in the BLACK!! The constant fear mongering of the current board has gone so far beyond ridiculous its almost laughable. maybe the ""taxpayers" should be asking why they are footing the bill for PHDs for administrators, they are by far the hiughest paid employees of the district, shouldn't they be on the hook for that money like the teachers who pay for their Masters degree?? Why dont the taxpayers ask why we are paying for I-pads for the school board?? Is that necessary technology ina time of such dire straights? I hardly think so! Time to get all of the anti-education zealots off the school board, they should be on the city council or running for poitical office, not serving on the board.
Aug 25, 2011 at 9:24 p.m.
Aug 25, 2011 at 8:39 p.m.
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I consider myself to be a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. I would never ever be rude to employees at any business, I tip well, and am generally pleasant to everyone. Please don't lump me in with rude people of any political persuasion. Rude is rude period.
Aug 25, 2011 at 7:37 p.m.
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Shrek,
If you are so happy to kick liberals out of your business, then by all means post the name of your business on here. I am sure you won't have any problems with them harrassing your employees anymore. Talk tough, but if you really had any balls you would post your business name. Didn't think so. I am sure it would be a real shock as to how successful your business isn't, considering the go-getter attitude you seem to have. What you call customer service most would consider it the exact opposite. So please do share. It would solve all of your problems at work. Please?
Aug 25, 2011 at 6:14 p.m.
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Oh, Shrek. Please don't go away. I understand your conscience must be making you feel guilty for being so intolerant, and freely sharing your opinions and distaste for others whose opinions differ from yours. Nobody on here is trying to tell you and your family how to live your lives. I wish you knew how much you sound like the things that you can't "tolerate!" I wonder what business you own where you can afford to throw out your paying customers, and still be in business? A little tip...try making your customers happy, even when they are disgruntled. That way, they might come back! Also, you might be more accepting of different people and different views if you can get past your intolerance and bad habit of stereotyping others...
Aug 25, 2011 at 4:22 p.m.
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The great thing about America is that anyone can start a business and be a success without the need for government intervention or approval. That same business person can refuse service to anyone and those customers can refuse to patronize that establishment. It is called freedom, a precious thing that not everyone in this world can enjoy. I believe that our freedoms are being taken away by a group of people that preach tolerance, but in reality are the ones that are intolerant. It is a great thing that I am able to believe what I want and others are able to believe what they want. I will never understand a liberals worldview and they will never understand mine, but I will do everything that I can to keep them from forcefully imposing what I considered twisted values on me and my family. I just wish that liberals would understand that most of us just want to be left to chart our own course in life, we don't need their "guidance". Sorry for venting more, it is just frustrating that people on here feel the need to criticize me when they know nothing about me, a perfect example of what is wrong with liberals. This is definitely my last post on this one, have a nice day.
Aug 25, 2011 at 3:11 p.m.
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Well, Shrek, if you prohibit rude people, you can never go back into your business again. Your diatribe is very dishonest. I can post a list of incredibly rude conservatives--rudeness is NOT a characteristic of either political leaning. There are very rude liberals and there are very rude conservatives--Look in the mirror. There are very nice, polite liberals and there are very nice, polite conservatives. Maybe you are just the kind of person who is not really fit to run a business.
Aug 25, 2011 at 3:04 p.m.
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(7) Expect special treatment.
Aug 25, 2011 at 3:02 p.m.
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"Liberals" are people who:
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(1) Treat other people's employees with disrespect and contempt.
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(2) Criticize high prices.
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(3) Complain about everything.
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(4) Are the cause of American moral decline.
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(5) Are selfish, greedy, rude.
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(6) Would sell out their grandmother if it made them look good to their friends.
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Eh?
Aug 25, 2011 at 2:50 p.m.
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Not a bar, and I don't prohibit liberals. I prohibit rude people, they just usually are liberals that expect special treatment. I am done with my rant, have a nice day.
Aug 25, 2011 at 2:47 p.m.
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"This type of customer service is why my business is successful."
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Which bar is it?
Aug 25, 2011 at 2:46 p.m.
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Shrek, are you boycotting liberals? Post a sign at your place of business saying you refuse to serve liberals. You can save money by writing that on the back of your "Going out of business" sign.
Aug 25, 2011 at 2:45 p.m.
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"Janesville . . . a backward, podunk city"
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Hmm. And I suppose everybody is blaming everybody else. QED.
Aug 25, 2011 at 2:36 p.m.
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Mistergee,
The beautiful thing about America is I can and do refuse service to people that don't treat my employees with respect. Most of my customers appreciate that fact that I kick the jerks out of my place. This type of customer service is why my business is successful.
Aug 25, 2011 at 2:28 p.m.
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The same liberals that threaten a boycott of my business because I refuse to put a pro union sign in the window. It is easy to pick out a liberal because they are the ones that will freely share their opinion and attack you if your opinion differs from theirs. Just like the liberals on these posts. I rarely go off on a tirade like this, but I am sick of the hate America first crowd and their self righteousness. Get over yourselves, you are not any better than the rest of us.
Aug 25, 2011 at 2:05 p.m.
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Ah how easy it is to stereotype. My favorite is the flag toting patriot who looks down their nose at me because I'm not a warhawk as they drive by in their Kia because Chevys are too expensive cuz of the union. I get a kick out of the super lefty crowd who pays twice as much at a local business because it is down town or they offer organic products. So much for not buying local. As much scorn as this city has for people who worked at places like GM and now the teachers, they sure don't mind when their money flows into their businesses as Shrek wishes did more. Oh my favorite one today was Bill complaining again on the radio show about too high of taxes and then complaining cuz he aint got access to a computer to do the city's survey. Geez, businesses started going paperless 10 years ago to save money. Shouldn't you admire govt doing the same? Keep your patience teabaggers, only a few more months before you can complain about your street not getting plowed in a timely manner and then complain about your taxes being too high.
Aug 25, 2011 at 1:57 p.m.
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I didn't know all people who have an opnion one way or the other are liberals. I guess if you have that many complaints maybe it's time you look at you prices or your services and the books to see if your selling enough or if your bussiness is so busy that you can afford to turn down others. maybe a reality check is in order shrek.
Aug 25, 2011 at 1:37 p.m.
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I'm afraid the writing is on the wall for teachers and parents in this community. It might be time to put your house up for sale and get out while you still can.
Aug 25, 2011 at 1:19 p.m.
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And do they have the scarlett letter "L" on their chests that you know this?
Aug 25, 2011 at 1:08 p.m.
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I live in the real world and own a business where I deal with the public every day. I see how the liberals treat my employees with disrespect and contempt for the prices that I charge, which are not out of line. I see the liberal that comes in and complains about everything. In my opinion, liberals are the reason that our country is on a moral decline. They are a bunch of selfish, greedy, rude people who would sell out their grandmother if it made them look good to their friends.
Aug 25, 2011 at 12:39 p.m.
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Why doesn't everyone just post his real name and place of employment so we can all publicly rip on how shoddy of a worker or citizen the other person is? All this finger pointing at teachers or delinquent businesses and dead people???? Seriously???? You got four fingers pointing right back at yourselves. Jeez!
Aug 25, 2011 at 12:33 p.m.
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"Many of these companies are out of business because of liberals who:
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Refuse to buy American products because they are too expensive.
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Pay illegals to do their work because Americans cost too much.
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Buy products from the internet because the local businesses are too expensive.
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All while they complain about the lack of jobs in this area."
So only liberals do these things?!?! WOW what world do you live in?
Aug 25, 2011 at 12:12 p.m.
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Many of these companies are out of business because of liberals who:
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Refuse to buy American products because they are too expensive.
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Pay illegals to do their work because Americans cost too much.
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Buy products from the internet because the local businesses are too expensive.
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All while they complain about the lack of jobs in this area.
Aug 25, 2011 at 10:59 a.m.
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Umm...hate to break it to you but many of the businesses listed on there are closed and many of the individuals are DEAD! I'm sure their families appreciate your post though calling their dead relatives out as tax cheats. Stooge.
Aug 25, 2011 at 10:55 a.m.
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Aug 25, 2011 at 10:35 a.m.
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Well, I do know that the Donald Westby I knew died about 3 years ago. I wonder how many of those names are for dead people?
Aug 25, 2011 at 10:20 a.m.
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Steve,
Did you ever think that many of these businesses are having trouble paying taxes due the poor economy? And now you are looking to hurt them even more. Why dont you post your real name so that we can all refuse you service when you come in.
Aug 25, 2011 at 10:09 a.m.
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Aug 25, 2011 at 7:35 a.m.
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I remember when Marshall was going to be built had to go vote to see if they could have a swimming pool - it was voted down but some how they found extra money for it?????
Aug 25, 2011 at 5:01 a.m.
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oops. I mislaid 3 million bucks. http://www.channel3000.com/education/289...
Aug 24, 2011 at 10:03 p.m.
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We are trying to crawl out from under the worst recession since the Great Depression, and one larger than the last three recessions COMBINED, and the board is balking at using Fund 10? If not now, when?
Aug 24, 2011 at 9:45 p.m.
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If closing down one TIF district generated nearly $650,000, why not close down more?
Aug 24, 2011 at 8:20 p.m.
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Dr. Parr has a PhD in online learning and is a valued leader of Janesville's Virtual Academy. To think his job is at risk because he acts as the spokesperson for the union is a bit short-sided. People seem to forget that Dave does not make decisions for the union. If he did, he'd have 700 very angry members.
Aug 24, 2011 at 8:05 p.m.
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Why would his job be in jeopardy? He has seniority. Not until 2013 could they get rid of anyone they want based on performance.
Aug 24, 2011 at 7:57 p.m.
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I'm not surprised Dave Parr wants higher taxes now. He has to find some way to justify his existence. His job is in jeopardy.
Aug 24, 2011 at 7:17 p.m.
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One thing that I have trouble understanding is why there are never any long term projections of what it will cost the school board to continue running in the future. While the math is not as simple as adding a surplus and deficit to make a budget balanced, it would help in determining what it would take to keep things going in the future.
I understand that when it comes to revenues, it is anyone's guess as to what the future may hold. But when it comes to expenses, most of those trends are fairly predictable. If anything, a good best case/worst case scenario should be calculated. Maybe then we could actually start working out long term plans so that the school district can focus more on providing education than arguing about how it gets paid for.
Aug 24, 2011 at 7:12 p.m.
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marge123 - You are wrong about the school supplies! Teachers DO NOT have ANY supplies for their classrooms. Last year they did! Maybe people need to learn to budget their money when they are receiving benefits from the state, free lunch and breakfast, AND they and their children come with new name brand clothing and blackberries and/or androids. Must be nice. From what I have seen, raising the school tax would equal somewhere around $55 per house. That is less than that cell phone those kids have. My kids don't have that. Maybe I should quit my job and receive state aide so I can get us all the latest clothing and cell phones. I think not. I value education far more than that. $55 or even $100 per house is not much for the education of our children! People wonder why children respect adults less... People want teachers to pay hundreds of dollars ($300-500)per MONTH, yet they cry about paying $55 - 100 per YEAR. How shamefully pathetic some people are.
Aug 24, 2011 at 7:11 p.m.
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marge...well according to the email today, school supplies did not and will not get ordered. So unless the email was wrong.....
Aug 24, 2011 at 7:02 p.m.
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Doesn't it seem just a little ridiculous to say you can't just apply the $3 million to the deficit? Why does the obvious have to be made so difficult?
Aug 24, 2011 at 6:39 p.m.
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Front page headline: "New One for School Board" --- is not true. The JEA has watched this happen 10 out of 14 years or so. . . I would think that the seasoned Board members would have had the good sense to ask for regular updates on that expense. Guess no one asks?? I would think that there would be an ongoing balance. This sh/not be a surprise.
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A few years ago the Board paid a consultant to advise them on policy for how much money to keep in a designated fund for health care costs. This issue had become quite contentious during bargaining when salary and benefits were tied together for a total of 3.8% under the QEO. Money set aside for healthcare of teachers came out of the same bucket as salaries. When it was not used -- c/b $900,000 - $2.5 million/year, it went back into the district's funds with no recognition that salaries had been repressed in order to provide those funds. . . teachers in Janesville struggle to maintain a positive attitude in this community. I am always amazed by the quality we expect of ourselves and provide for our student despite the climate created by some of our board commissioners.
Aug 24, 2011 at 6:27 p.m.
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Sorry but a "froze" budget is the same as last years budget---doesn't equal "no school supplies" try again.
Aug 24, 2011 at 6 p.m.
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The school board froze all budgets, so no school supplies got ordered for this upcoming year for classrooms. I could think of a place to spend a little of that $3 million.
Aug 24, 2011 at 5:59 p.m.
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Ok. So the board chose not to raise taxes to the max, so they did not get as much state aid as they could have. This caused the board to have less money to pay towards the budget. I perfectly understand that. What I don't understand is how people can want to tax to the max when there are people that cannot afford the increase. (it is not like taxes did not increase at all!) And I know that increase can easily be made up, as I continually read, by not going out for a meal once a year. However, roughly half of all students in the district do not have this luxury. They need to have a free or reduced lunch because their parents cannot afford to provide a meal for them. This does not include the need of students to eat breakfast at school as their parents do not have any way to provide that for them. Should I also mention that these children cannot afford the clothes of the better off. The same better off that pick on them. I wish that some people would try to see the whole picture instead of just their desires based on their particular situation. Donate some of the money you want to pay, but don't have to, to a family at Christmas so a child can have a toy, or buy a gift certificate to a grocery store and give it to a family so they can have a nice meal. They would appreciate it.
Aug 24, 2011 at 5:39 p.m.
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Even after the teachers start paying in to WRS the 5.8%, the board will still have shortages and somehow blame teachers. Take some cajones and admit you are a huge part of this mess, Sodemann, Stottler and D. Severson!
Aug 24, 2011 at 5:27 p.m.
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"This year, for example, about $4 million was designated to help fill a budget deficit. The board in recent years has used the fund balance to moderate its property tax increases."
Awesome decision, why is it we are in a hole again? Oh yeah, because you didn't raise taxes in the past 10 years therefore lost money from the state. Are you genius school board members ever going to figure this out. It is a fairly simple concept. If you don't tax locally you can't collect from the state. Bill and Severson, you two are the exact reason the state has the formula set up the way it does. Because all you care about is local property taxes. You want to keep your taxes low and still get money from the state. Not happening, the state realized this along time ago. If you want money from the state you also have to "share the pain" and collect locally. So go ahead and don't raise taxes now because of this windfall of money and cry poor again next year. This is the exact reason there should be some kind of a test to run for school board and that not being the 1st grade entrance exam. You two are the problem, not the teachers "outrageous" pay and benefit packages. Keep bashing them in the paper, it is doing alot for your credibility.
By the way Bill, thanks for your "private" response to me telling me you were in fact wrong about new administrators having their PHD's. Very convienent to wait until the blog is off the radar. So now that you admit you are wrong why aren't you addressing the fact that it is ok to pay for their PHD's while they are making 100k in salary alone? Please inform the public how much has been paid in the past couple of years in tuition payments for these poor people. Surely you know, you told me you checked into this issue.
Aug 24, 2011 at 5:12 p.m.
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http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/latest-ne...
But I would guess we will start all over again.
Aug 24, 2011 at 5:02 p.m.
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Yup. Let's do what everyone does when they simultaneously have a $2.1 million deficit and a $3 million surplus in the same fiscal year. Don't dare attempt to balance the two in a simple math formula. Of course not! Silly me. We're just too stupid to understand good fiscal policy. How we could speak into a phone and hear voices come out of the other end? Are there little people that live inside this phone? Our house is on fire!! Duh, did the Sun crash into it? Instead, they keep trying to figure out how they can continue to turn a positive fiscal situation into a hammer against teachers and unions. Why we're just double-wide trailer trash dumb, dumb, dummies to these folks. Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill for everybody!
Aug 24, 2011 at 4:41 p.m.
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The school board and people downtown running the show are beyond ridiculous. They should be embarrassed to show their faces in public! They have made a mockery of education and made Janesville look like a backward, podunk city with their unprofessional, uneducated antics.
Aug 24, 2011 at 4:27 p.m.
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Conspiracy theory says, Schulte threaten to cut sports and all of a sudden we have an extra $3 million a day or two later! Just a coincidence?
Aug 24, 2011 at 4:25 p.m.
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$28.1 million in the fund 10 balance? Holy s#$@! Looks like this time next year, if the district is a bit short, they'll have a little available to use to fill the GAP! Or maybe they'll find another $3 million somewhere after the teachers get layed off and bashed all summer long.
Aug 24, 2011 at 4:23 p.m.
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When is the Gazette going to find a way to have the comments from a headline story move with the story when it goes from a headline to a regular story? All the comments are gone from earlier, where did they go?
Anyone at the Gazette care to explain?
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