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JANESVILLE Dora McGill stood at the curb along Court Street with a sign stating, "Walker, you've silenced my voice, now read my recall."
"We don't feel it is right the way Walker leads," McGill said, as drivers honked at her sign. "We won't give up. We're going to keep fighting."
McGill was one of about 250 union supporters rallying at the Rock County Courthouse on Sunday, chanting, displaying signs and speaking out against Gov. Scott Walker and the budget repair legislation.
Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, Rock County Sheriff Bob Spoden and Janesville City Council member Yuri Rashkin were among the speakers at the rally. Other politicians, union leaders and concerned residents also spoke.
They said people must vote in future elections and work to recall Walker now that the bill cutting public worker union rights has become law.
The rally was held in the rear parking lot of the courthouse. Several people also stood along neighboring streets displaying their signs for motorists.
The rally lasted about 90 minutes. People chanted, "This is what democracy looks like," "recall Walker" and "shame." One person screamed, "We're mad as heck, and we're not going to take it anymore."
When Cullen grabbed a microphone, the crowd burst into a sustained chant of "thank you." Cullen smiled and pointed to the crowd, thanking them in return. Cullen was one of 14 Democratic senators who fled to Illinois in protest of the budget repair bill.
"I want to tell you about this time we're in and about what we're doing … the question in front of us is as old as democracy," Cullen told the crowd. "The question is: Who is going to rule us? Are the people going to rule us or is the money going to rule us? It's people or money."
Spoden told the crowd they exercised their rights in a democratic and peaceful fashion when they marched at the Capitol.
"You have all honored our state. You all stand for the best things that Wisconsin is, and that is democracy, a strong voice, a clear mind and a direction to move forward," Spoden said.
"Remember these days. These are historic days. But all of you have to continue to push forward."
Rashkin told the crowd not to stop applying pressure on Republicans. He encouraged the crowd to vote in future elections, including any recalls of Republicans.
"I'm going to vote. You're going to vote, and we're going to make the difference," Rashkin said.
People later chanted, "Vote, vote, vote."
After the rally, Elizabeth said she is worried about the state's future. She wouldn't give her last name because the budget issue has become so divisive that she is worried she might be harassed if people knew she attended the event.
"We have to stand together," Elizabeth said. "I don't support what Walker does. I have friends and relatives who are teachers."
SIGNS AT SUNDAY RALLY
"Walker: Your pink slip is coming"
"Solidarity"
"Recall Walker"
"Thank you WI 14"
"UAW Local 95 supports workers rights"
"Cops for Labor"
"Lies and Tea and Koch Oh My"
"We aren't slobs. We're voters"
"Shame. Stop corporate welfare. Recall Walker and his minions."
"Derail Walker"
"Walker, you've silenced my voice, now read my recall."
"Stop the attack on Wisconsin families"
"Stop the war on workers"
"Thank you Fab 14 our heroes"


Mar 21, 2011 at 4:23 p.m.
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Why don't you check his web site... http://paulryan.house.gov/ What do you want from him, more pork?
Mar 16, 2011 at 2:47 p.m.
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Can someone tell me what Rep. Paul Ryan has actually done to help this community?
**** crickets chirping ****
Mar 16, 2011 at 8:03 a.m.
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Happy to see people in Janesville come out against what Walker is doing. I'm a recent transplant to Janesville (5 years now). I have never figured out why this blue collar town keeps voting republican!
Few people are wealthy and that is the only group of citizens the republicans care about. Look around you. Has anything improved in the Janesville area with all the republicans you keep voting in? Can someone tell me what Rep. Paul Ryan has actually done to help this community? I'm serious. I really am seeking an honest answer to that question.
What I see and hear from Paul Ryan is that he wants to take away the Social Security insurance money that we have paid into all our lives. He want's to put it in private hands to gamble with. Did anybody here NOT loose half of their investments in the latest dot.com bubble on Wall Street? Do we really want senior citizens going back to eating cat food, freezing to dealth in their homes, etc. because they live in poverty?
That's not the world I want to live in.
And to the person who posted that public employees shouldn't have better benefits than they do...... why are you falling for an argument that creates a race to the bottom? I'd love for you, assuming you are a hard-working middle class employee, to get quality health care, time off when you are sick, etc. These should not be "luxuaries" in a country that has the wealth we have. Don't let them fool you. This country, nor our state, are broke! The corporations (sitting on 2 trillon dollars but not hiring) and the billionaires are doing just fine.
Mar 15, 2011 at 11:11 p.m.
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They're galvanizing support. For Walker. People are fed up with this crap.
Mar 15, 2011 at 9:13 p.m.
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bluejoe - I didn't vote for Warren Buffet.
Mar 15, 2011 at 8:56 p.m.
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retiredfed,good post,READ THIS,,,,and keep reading it till it sinks in,,,,,Based on the comments about many of the articles written during this budget repair bill debate, the GOP and their backers plan of divide and conquer the middle and working class seems to be working. By pitting non-union working and middle class people against union working and middle class people the GOP and their wealthy supports can succeed in the class warfare that Warren Buffet talked about in a New York times article as far back as 2006. He was quoted as saying "There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning." Keep fighting amongst yourselves and soon there will be no middle class in this country. Once the class war is completed by the wealthy and corporations there will be two classes. The rich class and the serving class. Which class will you fall into?,,,,,,to bad the low-income rebubs don't understand what is going on!!!!!!
Mar 15, 2011 at 8:17 p.m.
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gmaof3 no response to my earlier post, and to the rest of the Walker supporters:
i saw the recent article had actual numbers: 60% of businesses earning $1,000,000 or more per year pay ZERO taxes into our state. Now, think about that. It has been going on for a very long time. I have known about it for more than 10 years. Meanwhile the burden for revenues has been shifting to property owners, individuals.
The distraction of keeping the majority of voters fighting with each other to survive is working. Most people do not pay any attention to the ever-widening gap between the "haves" and "have nots" The assault on organized labor is directly related to political power grabs. (reference interview with Senator Scott Fitzgerald)
Please, people. Do the math for the bigger picture. The jobs we have been promised in exchange for tax breaks have not arrived (since President Bush's administration first enacted breaks about 8 years ago--or more?) Walker has said that he will create 250,000 jobs in this state. I ask, is that 250,000 above the employment rate when he took office? or is he planning to replace public sector employees with private sector employees (as he did in Milwaukee) and call them "new" jobs? What type of jobs? How far above minimum wage? Will they include health insurance benefits for folks who are losing Badger Care?
Mar 15, 2011 at 7:14 p.m.
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Wow...MOLLY49, take a deep breath. What you posted "Everyone has forgotten that we are people that have mortgages, car loans, student loans and children to feed and clothe!" Welcome to OUR world! So do we! We only want an even line of employee rights. I do not feel you are any more entitled to bennies than I am. Or my children! I will willingly pay my state taxes without YOU on my back.
Mar 15, 2011 at 5:19 p.m.
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I'd love to see a Gazette poll and an honest answer from those who comment. Have you thoroughly read SB11, the full Budget Bill, and the Conference Committee Amendment 1, to AB11, as well as the Wisconsin Open Meetings Law??? If not and, if you support Walker, I hope you will do so immediately. It will be a REAL eye-opener when you see how extensive Walkers despotic plans truly are going far beyond collective bargaining and union busting.
Mar 15, 2011 at 5:05 p.m.
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OMG, I really didn't think there were this many "blind as a bat" people who have the wool pulled so far over their face that they can't even breathe! You think you are the ones supporting the unions?? With your tax dollars? C'mon people...You are giving more to the big republican who started this mess... making his pockets swell at the seems than you are/were to the teachers unions!! And oh my, that don't bother you!! Walker say's we're broke but I don't see him taking a pay cut or his buddies either for that fact!
Mar 15, 2011 at 4:57 p.m.
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JoyM,,,why work at a union shop if you hate unions,,,I am sure a non-union shop will pay you the same wages that the union shop will when you show them what a good worker you are and how you are better than the next guy!
Mar 15, 2011 at 4:30 p.m.
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dkush 21-When some of my tax dollars go to pay the benefits of those in the public sector unions, i.e.teachers, that sounds like injustice to me. Everyone else has to pay their own benefits through their employer. Why should the teachers be any different? What's so unjust about that?
Mar 15, 2011 at 3:13 p.m.
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Minan.......What are you talking about? An awful lot of us support what Walker is trying to do. I realize that you probably supported Doyle's ideas in funding union labor. A billion dollar tax increase and throwing billions of dollars of Federal stimulus funds at them just seemed to be a temporary fix. Walker had the hard job of coming up with a real solution to the problem.......
Mar 15, 2011 at 3:07 p.m.
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The idiot Union Thugs need to go away -- they dont even know what they are fighting for. They are fighting to give their money to others, fighting to force their jobs overseas, and fighting to bankrupt the state and the country.
Look at what you Union did for GM, Bankrupt and Gone from Janesville. You supported them and turned around when your job was gone..... You people are so gullible thats it is laughable.... no really its sad... you are blind.
Mar 15, 2011 at 2:34 p.m.
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molly49 - If you are in the teaching field, then you do need a refresher on reading for content: 1) I said my gradeschoolers, not my grandson. 2) Nowhere in any of my posts that I have ever posted will you ever find me slamming teachers or the work they and the other staff in our school system do. What I am saying is that this kindness of which you speak is killing us all - I can't afford to be any kinder to you than I already am with my taxes, and really, I can't even afford that much kindness. I can't afford to let you retire at 55 with full benefits because then I will have to work until I am 70 or more in order to have saved enough of my remaining take-home pay to afford my own bills. I am grateful for the work that teachers and staff do, but I cannot afford to be that grateful, and neither can the rest of the majority of taxpayers. That is why I said that if every employee costs the taxpayers a little bit less, then we can avoid or at least minimize layoffs. And, what I am teaching my children is how to stay within your budget because being in debt is no way to live.
Mar 15, 2011 at 2:32 p.m.
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packersfan1: When an injustice has been done, there is no letting go. I don't care who the person is who did the injustice or what status he/she has. People stand strong and don't give up!
Mar 15, 2011 at 1:40 p.m.
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JoyM. I to worked in the private sector and I DO understand it happens all over. I also understand your grandsons simple math! Yes I know they need to layoff, but to slam the teachers and the staff that teach your grandson simple math is just spiteful. I guess I know the example you are showing this grandson! I feel for ALL that are going through this mess, because of people like you that voted this man in office. I'm saying to be kind to EVERYONE! The terrible things that are being said are hurtful. I too have grandchildren and thank god that they are a few years away from having to attend the public schools, hopefully he will not be in office. Maybe this mess can be reversed with all sides talking,unlike now. You take care gmaof3...
Mar 15, 2011 at 1:18 p.m.
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molly49, there are many of us who feel just how you do, every day, in the private sector, not knowing whether we are going to have a job or not, so don't try to play the sympathy card. It's simple math my gradeschoolers understand: If you only have $100, then you can either get 10 things that cost $10, or you can get 9 things that cost $11. When indvidual employees cost less, there can be enough to go around to fill all of the jobs, so there can be enough teachers and staff to fill required positions. When everybody gets over thinking they can just dip into the Bank of the Taxpayer for whatever they want, whenever they want, then maybe we'll relax.
Mar 15, 2011 at 12:58 p.m.
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THANK YOU WALKER?????? You people that are in favor of this jerk are pathetic, and you WILL feel the injustice very very soon. He's NOT for the little people! gmaof3...you think he's going to be good for your grandchildren? Are you kidding? He's making classrooms larger, with less staff to teach your precious grandchildren! This will slow down the teaching in the classroom, the Librarys, the gym,in music classes,in foreign language classes, and many more classes, because now 1 person will deal with up to 50 students? There will be limited Aides to assist the Teacher. You people can have no idea how we are feeling, "waiting" to find out if our job has been axed. The tension in the schools is unbelievable, the sad looks on so many is unbearable. Everyone has forgotten that we are people that have mortgages, car loans, student loans and children to feed and clothe! We are your neighbors who you wave to everyday, we are standing in line at the grocery store just like you! Pleas be kind, stop slaming us we have enough going on in our lives. RECALL WALKER!
Mar 15, 2011 at 12:45 p.m.
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At least Cullen, Spoden and Rashkin were engaging with their own neighbors and constituency. That's alot more than Paul Ryan can say when he was standing with Koch and his thug brigade, Americans for Prosperity in Palm Springs. Walker too sets a fine fine example for Janesville students and school teachers to follow about whether to re-open their contract. For refusing to negotiate and compromise, he's called a leader. Teachers should follow his lead.
Mar 15, 2011 at 12:22 p.m.
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What is the matter with all you protesters? Don't you have anything better to do? All your protesting is in vain. The bill has passed. Let it go!
Tim Cullen has a lot of nerve standing up there at the courthouse and encouraging the crowd to recall Governor Walker. The governor actually stayed in Wisconsin and did his job. I know you can't say that, Senator Cullen. You're a coward and a child. You've proved this by fleeing the state when you had a job to do in Wisconsin. I don't know why the protesters were thanking you. You weren't even in the state doing your job the past three weeks. Why should I thank you?
Governor Walker won't be swayed by these protests. So far, he has done what he said he was going to do. Senator Cullen can't say that. Instead of working with Republicans like he promised in his campaign, he fled the state.
If I'm going to thank anybody, it's going to be Governor Walker, the Republican senators and assemblymen/women, and the Democratic assemblymen/women who stayed and did the jobs they were elected to do.
Mar 15, 2011 at 12:16 p.m.
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Somewhere along the way people seem to have forgotten the difference between unions in the public sector vs. unions in the private sector. In the private sector, we as consumers can decide whether we want to buy union-made goods/service and most likely pay more for what may or may not be a better quality item/service, and we are the ones responsible for how our money is spent. In the PUBLIC sector, we as the taxpayers are simply informed as to what we will be spending, whether we agree with the "purchase" or not. This bill only constrains the collective bargaining rights of government employees, and even changing Wisconsin to a Right to Work state does not mean there would not be collective bargaining; it would only mean there would no longer be Closed Shops where employees were required to join the union whether they wanted to or not.
Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10 a.m.
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retiredfed,good post,,Based on the comments about many of the articles written during this budget repair bill debate, the GOP and their backers plan of divide and conquer the middle and working class seems to be working. By pitting non-union working and middle class people against union working and middle class people the GOP and their wealthy supports can succeed in the class warfare that Warren Buffet talked about in a New York times article as far back as 2006. He was quoted as saying "There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning." Keep fighting amongst yourselves and soon there will be no middle class in this country. Once the class war is completed by the wealthy and corporations there will be two classes. The rich class and the serving class. Which class will you fall into?,,,,,,to bad the low-income rebubs don't understand what is going on!!!!!!
Mar 15, 2011 at 11 a.m.
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Roasty Toasty: you're getting played man...seriously, I only wish I were a Republican. I could literally take money out of the hard working middle class' hands in order to pad the pocket books of my rich buddies. While at the same time have the poor middle class chump that I'm taking money from support me.
Crazy...time to start opening your mind a little.
Mar 15, 2011 at 10:43 a.m.
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Thank you Gov. Walker. Despite being unemployeed, you have given me faith in hope in doing what is right to make Wisconsin a place for businesses to come and provide jobs. I don't get the free ride treatment like unions do or collect unemployement, I actually have to try and provide for my family. Thank you and I will be voting for you once again in a couple more years!
Mar 15, 2011 at 10:07 a.m.
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Based on the comments about many of the articles written during this budget repair bill debate, the GOP and their backers plan of divide and conquer the middle and working class seems to be working. By pitting non-union working and middle class people against union working and middle class people the GOP and their wealthy supports can succeed in the class warfare that Warren Buffet talked about in a New York times article as far back as 2006. He was quoted as saying "There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning." Keep fighting amongst yourselves and soon there will be no middle class in this country. Once the class war is completed by the wealthy and corporations there will be two classes. The rich class and the serving class. Which class will you fall into?
Mar 15, 2011 at 9:09 a.m.
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Man that was fun on Saturday in Madison, sitting in the Governors suite at the Concourse Hotel, warming my toes up, watching and listening to the rally, supporting Wisconsin workers on the capitol lawn. I had family come from as far away as Burnett county to witness and participate in the rally. Wisconsin workers are really pulling together to stop this tyrant from ruining our wonderful state. I can't wait for the next one!
Mar 15, 2011 at 8:14 a.m.
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There is so much wrong with this bill that has nothing to do with unions. It is just what the press has decided to focus on. And it works well for those who want to turn this into a war of the middle class vs. the middle class. If you want your state back, go to http://www.unitedwisconsin.com and sign up.
Mar 15, 2011 at 12:35 a.m.
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MadeIn U.S.A., I agree with you about the support the local unions have given to Paul Ryan over the years. But I wouldn't blame the Dohners for "letting" it happen. When the paychecks are flowing and bennies are good, people tend to go along for the ride. In 2010, Ryan still won many of Janesville's wards, although against an unknown. Janesville still continues to vote against it's best interests with or without the union.
Mar 15, 2011 at 12:16 a.m.
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Thank You Governor Walker for supporting the majority in this state that voted you in. Not the minority that is protesting that did not vote or do not live in this state. I knew what you were going to do and thank you. I do not support a public union. Private companies go right ahead. There will not be a recall because the % of this state that voted him in will keep him in we just don't waste our time out protesting because most of us are at work or are focused on enjoying our lives. The amount of money that people will waste on a recall could feed all of the homeless children in this state and provide them shelter for the year. Better use of peoples donations I think. Get a new hobby, go back to work and actually show up to vote in the next election if you don't like it we did.
Mar 14, 2011 at 11:39 p.m.
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...YAWN! Wake me up when something important happens.
Mar 14, 2011 at 11 p.m.
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The only jobs Walker will bring to Wisconsin are...temporary and part-time, and maybe if you're lucky, you might land a job that will pay $12. an hour with no benefits (ie:healthcare, 401k, pay increases etc.) But at least his pockets will get richer, for now...We do know how to clean house tho and we will!!
I do Thank and Appreciate the Democrat Senators for all they have done!!
Mar 14, 2011 at 10:58 p.m.
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Wow - watcha gonna do when they come for you...
Mar 14, 2011 at 10:58 p.m.
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@reklaw, janesvillefirst, et.al. Let's see...the one I rode in (not mine as I rode with someone else) was there and it's UAW made. The one I own is CAW made. Oh, and I believe my tires were union made too...your point?
Or maybe I should state it for you? You have a preconceived notion of exactly how the world is and how things will go (including collective bargaining and the "we're broke" and "tax breaks don't increase the deficit") and since you've surrounded yourself with people who think just like you, you can't fathom how it's possible there's another way to tackle the issues at hand. Well, that and "compromise" is a four letter word.
Mar 14, 2011 at 10:01 p.m.
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The true shame in these past several weeks rests squarely on the shoulders of the Democrat senators who fled the state in effort to prevent the government from functioning. Shame on you, Mr. Cullen for abandoning your office and running from your responsibilities because the issue was not going to go your way! Was it cowardice or the act of spoiled children who grab the ball and run away? As our President said, "elections have consequences". Guess what, last November there was an election and now there are the consequences. Gov. Walker is doing exactly what he said he was going to do and that is why the majority who cared enough to vote elected him.
Mar 14, 2011 at 9:14 p.m.
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Thanks Governor Walker for sticking up for the little guy, the taxpayer. We are a silent majority. We work hard and expect to get the most out of the taxes we pay. We are tired of being bullied by unions. We are tired of union greed. Thank you for sticking up for us and giving us a voice in all this. It's about time we were heard.
Mar 14, 2011 at 9:12 p.m.
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gmaof3, For YEARS (at least a decade) Senator Robson was trying to educate us that more and more of the tax burden in this state (and in the nation) was shifting onto the backs of property owners. Federal and state mandates for public schools have NEVER -- since origination -- been funded as promised, by the state or federal government. All the while many large employers have found loopholes to avoid paying into state and federal revenue bucket. This is about dividing working people so that tax breaks continue to pad the bonuses for CEO's and the wealthiest people may continue to accumulate more money, for what?
Focus. It is not the salaries, health insurance, or other benefit packages that are breaking our backs. Yes, "our" backs. Public employees are taxpayers, too. We need to work together to solve these problems; there are more people in the middle and poor of the US than in the wealthy. WHERE are the jobs we have been waiting for from the tax breaks? President Bush initiated the last round of big breaks many years ago, Obama agreed to continue them as a concession for items he wanted. . . The jobs went overseas. They will not be here until we are broken and uneducated, willing to live way, way, way, below the standard of living we expect.
Who will teach your grandchildren and great-grandchildren? Do we need reforms? sure, anything can be better, but destruction of people's right to come to the table and negotiate work concerns and wages? It will be downhill from here if we cannot stop the madness and get back on track. Your grandchildren & great-grandchildren won't need an education, because there will be very few jobs for literate people.
Mar 14, 2011 at 9:06 p.m.
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So between 150 and 250 people showed up to beat the dead horse.
Mar 14, 2011 at 9:01 p.m.
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This is America you can go get a differnt job if you don't like the one you have. No one will because they still have the best overall package of any workers public or private.
Mar 14, 2011 at 8:53 p.m.
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THANK YOU GOV. WALKER!! The only collective bargaining being done was the state workers, teachers, county workers, union leaders, and all democratic politicians collecting excessive amounts of money from Wisconsin tax payers. Why did the Senators leave? Not for the tax payers, for the campaign payers(unions who get them elected to give contracts to get the unions more money). WAKE UP UNIONS ARE BIG BUSINESS
Mar 14, 2011 at 8:30 p.m.
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Thank-you Gov. Walker....
Mar 14, 2011 at 8:11 p.m.
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We are broke! We are broke! Please check what Politifact had to say about the governor's claim that we are broke... FALSE.
Amazing how the rich and those that do their bidding have turned the middle class against itself... because you have something I don't have, you don't deserve it either. It's not a race to the bottom, folks.
Mar 14, 2011 at 7:28 p.m.
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how do i feel about unions, collective bargaining, i.e someone else representing me? In the last two presidential elections, i voted for the only person i felt was capable of doing the job right. myself.
Mar 14, 2011 at 7:10 p.m.
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gmaof3~ Finally someone gets it! Thank you for saying what I have been thinking and trying to say all along, and note to those on the left, we are not alone and if there is a recall we will all turn out again and voice our opinion once more!
Thank you Scott Walker for caring about he future of our state.
Mar 14, 2011 at 7:10 p.m.
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People chanted, "This is what democracy looks like." That's interesting... Because as I recall, 14 state senators fled the state to prevent democracy. Do union people even know what the definition of democracy is? That's pretty scary, seeming as how a lot of the protesters are teachers. This ignorance is being passed on to our children.
Mar 14, 2011 at 6:50 p.m.
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@janesvillefirst
You can count 150 people at a rally and take note of every make & model of car while driving by the courthouse. Simply amazing!
Mar 14, 2011 at 6:45 p.m.
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But WE did vote! If you didn't vote, step to the back of the line. WE made our voices heard... this is NO slam on the middle class, as pundits like to call it. It is a REBIRTH of the middle class. We need to rope the budget in, or my grandchildren will have to pay for the frivolities of the past 4 decades. I voted for a balanced budget... I voted for a leader that would NOT kowtow to the unions. I voted for equality for ALL workers. AND, I voted to stop paying for someone else's bennies, when the economy has put such a strain on MY family.
This is the reality of our state. We are broke! To give tax break incentives to big business and industry will add jobs to our state. YOU want to hold onto your freebies... I WANT TO see my children have an opportunity to prosper with companies that will come to Wisconsin because they will NOT have to deal with unions!
Mar 14, 2011 at 6:35 p.m.
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Thanks again Gov Walker, Balance that budget, Wisconsin wins.
Thanks Scott
Mar 14, 2011 at 6:12 p.m.
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250? Really! You must have had the same counters that they have in Madison. I drove past about 2p and if there were 150 there, I'd be surprised. Whats the population of the Janesville/Beloit area, about 100,000?
Also, weren't there a lot of non-union made automobiles parked around the courthouse?
Mar 14, 2011 at 5:44 p.m.
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Great! Please continue. Great to have you shine the light on who you truly are.
Mar 14, 2011 at 5:28 p.m.
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Yes. Vote vote vote.
Where were you last November?
So now we're swinging back to Democrat already?
We seem to be swinging faster with each election.
Democrat, Republican, Democrat, Republican, Democrat, Republican.
Anyone seeing a pattern here?
Mar 14, 2011 at 5 p.m.
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big enough to get to the point. The rest were in Madison!
Mar 14, 2011 at 4:20 p.m.
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Not a very big turnout.
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