Sorry to nitpick but I would be upset if I put wrong information on here. Just so that the author and everyone else knows it is not illegal to buy, sell, or posess a machine gun, short barrell shotgun or rifle. These simply require a $200 tax stamp to be owned by the public

Its amazing how many paranoid delusional com-mentors here who have no reasonably educational reasons for their fear of CCW. Wi, & IL were the only states that didn't allow CCW, & the crime rates in all those other states "Decreased" after CCW went into effect.. AND my no minded friends... They SKY didn't fall in any of those other states either.. AFTER CCW went into effect. What you people need to do if get real facts, & stop listening to the, "If it bleeds, it leads" News, & Law-Enforcement. Both of whom have ulterior motives for giving one sided "opinions", & rarely any-longer do we get the Whole truth from any government agency. American's have become very good at Not using their common sense, but thank God there are still people that haven't been brain-washed by the mass-media, & Not Scared to Death, ready to throw all of our "Constitutional Rights" away... It not a privilege according to Constitutional Document drafted by the founding fathers, & its not a "Living, Breathing document" the corrupt would have you believe, so they can create the controllable society they want. AND BTW People Uninformed.. Open Carry has been legal in this state for years.. Did you know what.. Has the sky fallen from that? I don't think so. I haven't decided whether I'll CCW, but I'm getting my permit. But whether or not I do CCW, when I see signs on stores forbidding CCW, my money will go some place else, & I decided that before ever seeing this story. Stores, & Banks "Will" be safer when crooks haven't a clue who might pull out a Glock, & end his/her pathetic life, as they are holding a store-up, or car-jacking someone. Educate yourselves, & stop listening to agenda-minded people who have your control as part of their agenda. I'll protect myself, because by the time the cops showed up (No lights & sirens. 1 squad car with a 1 cop, Not in any hurry to get to the victim. He didn't even approach her. That really changed my opinion of how protective they are to us) to the murder in my neighborhood 2 yrs ago, my neighbor was dead with multiple gun-shot wounds to the head, & body. The Ex-Boy-friend of the victim shot her with her little boy watching right next to her. If you think the cops will be there when someones shooting your loved one, or you.. Your in a fantasy world. After my neighbor, I'm armed in my home with a pistol, & maybe CCW in the near future. And yesss.. I trained with it, & shoot every week. So break into my home, you won't leave walking. I've had it with thugs.., & so have many more people.

While you are waiting for the DOJ to send you your permit, please take the time to print out the business card files at: http://paopencarry.org/no-guns-no-money-... to show any businesses that by posting 'no guns' signs, they will be losing customers and money.

I'm going to print up a supply to have one to staple to each receipt I mail to a "no-guns allowed" merchant.

Many property owners are certain to be surprised by the requirement of this law to post signs, should they want to ban concealed weapons from their building or property. For last minute requirements, these owners can download a free sign from MyDoorSign.com and print this sign PDF out on their own color printer.

To doc0430: regarding your comment on taverns...people with concealed carry permits (as well as others with legal rights, i.e police officers) are able to legally carry into a tavern provided they are not consuming alcohol...that is specifically stated in the law and in the article above. I think your concern about judgment being clouded has no bearing if a person's judgment is not in jeopardy of being impaired by alcohol.

"Well, what makes you think she's a witch?"

"she turned me into a newt....."

"a Newt?"

"....I got better."

Aaahhh... Thy Holy Hand Grenade!!!! I gotta get that movie on DVD!

I love the quotes about the word "armaments"...it keeps reminding me of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
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"Brother Maynard, consult the book or Armaments"
"Book of Armaments, Chapter 2, verses 9-21-......And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O LORD, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy." And the LORD did grin and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu... ["skip a bit, brother"]... And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it."
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any excuse to post one of Pythons best bits.....

"what is the purpose of carrying a loaded gun?"
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how 'bout "because carrying an unloaded one makes no sense."

Sending my application and payment in today!

Thank You lorne , its been awhile since i mailed a letter at the post office i guess .

Hey, Uncle Jesse... Look around back by North Randall... There they are! All neat and in a line even!

paper work all filled check included stamp on the envelope so i drive to the post office to mail it off 1:45am and the post office has removed the outdoor mail boxes ??!!??? .......when did this happen ?

Don't worry RAF, my shadow and I are just fine.
Thanks for asking.

Do you cast a shadow?

If I was fearful, I would probably want to carry a gun.

Sorry gary pictures aren't allowed to help you.

garyprimer - I merely answered a question that someone asked. What is the purpose of carrying an unloaded gun? I don't make the rules. I realize you are one that fears innocent law abiding citizens are suddenly going to come after you now that WI was the 49th state to put this law in effect. After all, conceal and carry is just causing all sorts of shootouts across the country. Lol.

This is an incredibly irresponsibly written article! I really wish the author would've done some research before she "interpreted"
the laws. Anyone who plans on carrying concealed should read the laws for themselves, have them explained to them by a competent instructor while they are getting proper training and not even read articles from the media that are full of false statements.
Examples: Opening paragraph states the DOJ has 3 weeks to proccess the first applications. Not true, at least she corrected that in the answer to the first question.
The 4th question (which is ridiculously phrased)states "you cannot use force or threaten to use force against another person unless you think you are preventing immediate death or great bodily harm." Also a incorrect statement. You have to be reasonably in IMMINENT (not immediate)fear of death or great bodily harm along with a lot of other variables that have to be in place.
The 5th question says "universally" banned?? Wisconsin law can not "universally" ban anything.It can however prohibit in Wisconsin.
The 6th question: She states "UW-Whitewater and UW-Rock County are following UW Systems policy and banning weapons from campus and buildings. Guns can be kept in private cars."
Also incorrect,after Nov 1st, UW systems will not ban weapons from campus quads,parking lots and other spaces that are not enclosed and in cars be they occopied or parked. They WILL be banned from all buildings.
8th question:You state "Bar owners can ban weapons in the same way other property can. If they don’t, only a handful of people can carry weapons into taverns. Why would she even write that? She even wrote in the next sentence "or someone with a valid Wisconsin concealed carry permit."
If a bar owner does not post, ANY ONE WITH A VALID PERMIT CAN CARRY A WEAPON INTO TAVERNS, but that owner can not be held liable unlike the owners that do post.
9th question: Her answer should not read "stored" the weapon does not need to be stored in this situation, it can be carried.

ABOVE ALL , the article states "all information is from the DOJ unless noted therwise" Give me a break! The DOJ has very clearly spelled everything out for us on their website that anyone can access!!

Proof positive, get training! Know the facts!!

And RAF's comment makes no sense whatsoever.
I am not saying that he is wrong.
It is just so poorly written that it is not clear what he is trying to say.

And what is the purpose of carrying a loaded gun?
Expecting zombie attacks?

intrigued-Yes you can have it loaded otherwise it would defeat the purpose. 49 states now allow this. Illinois being the only one left that doesn't it.

Really, "Schools, including public, private, parochial or tribal schools that teach grades one through 12. Colleges and universities fall under a different category." What about the young children in schools, both public and private, in the State of Wisconsin? Do they have the right to be free of firearms in their schools? Yes, there are schools that serve only early educational needs and don't house grades 1 through 12, to think that someone would put the clause of grades 1 to 12 in the bill is ridiculous!!! I am not responding for or against the bill, just that they people who wrote it should have done a better job!

At the risk of sounding ignorant (I was hoping the article would answer this question) when someone is carrying a concealed weapon can it be loaded with ammunition? So, I guess I'm asking, is it now ok for people to walk around with loaded guns?

His comment makes perfect sense to me.

Well written and informative article.
Good job.

My declaration was just as factual as your inane comment.

Unfortunately, a lot of people will be crying on Nov. 1 by intentionally "not wanting" other people to follow the law while they exercise their rights.

You cannot possess a shotgun with a barrel shorter than 18 inches or overall length of less than 26 inches without a special permit from the Federal Bureau of ATFE.

Per the Wisconsin DOJ FAQ, http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/Conc... page 25 of ccw pdf file:

What type of weapons can I carry with a CCW license?
The license is for a weapon, which is defined as a handgun, an electric weapon as defined in § 941.295(1c)(a), a knife other than a switchblade knife under § 941.24, or a billy club. Wis. Stat. § 175.60(1)(j).
A handgun does not include a machine gun, a short barreled rifle or a short barreled shotgun. Wis. Stat. 175.60(1)(bm).

So, even though you may legally own a sawed-off shotgun or fully automatic firearm if you've complied with all the regulations, they are not legal for concealed carry in Wisconsin.

MadCityDad, you are correct in that successful completion of the Wisconsin DNR Hunter Safety Course is adequate for satisfying the training portion of the CCW permit requirements and that successfully obtaining the permit (you also have to pass a background check and pay the fees) will allow you to carry your billy club concealed (or a knife, but not a switchblade). If you're immortal, you can even pack a katana, claymore, or cavalry saber. ;)

If you passed the Hunter Safety course but have lost your copy of the documentation, you may obtain a copy online at:
https://hfwa.centraltechnology.net/wi_pu...

There is a $1.00 fee for a PDF copy of the card. It took several tries and e-mail exchanges for the DNR to be able to dig up my info as I took the class back in 1969, but the DNR people were patient and I had my PDF with 3 days of first e-mailing them about it.

"-- You cannot buy, sell or possess xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx a shotgun."?
I hope that is not language directly from the law.

"-- You cannot buy, sell or possess a machine gun, a silencer, a short-barreled rifle or a shotgun."

You guys should do you homework as this is 100% FALSE. Those items are federally regulated which means you can have all or any of them, with the possession of a $200 tax stamp from the ATF. It is very common for collectors and there are many thousands of each of those items legally possessed in WI.

So according to this article, a hunter safety class will suffice so I can carry my billy club??????

while you would not choose to conceal carry a shotgun, rifle, or sub-machine gun, the last sentence in this article is completely false. If you pay the Government it's $200 tax stamp fee and a wait a lengthy background check period and get approved, you can then purchase and possess a short barreled rife or shot gun, a silencer, and yes a fully automatic weapon. Other than this false statement the article is very good. I do think it is a stretch to have to ask permission to point a gun at someone!! (sarcasm!) I am not going to ask permission if they are trying to kill me! and otherwise one of the rules of gun handling is NEVER point your muzzle at something you are not willing to destroy, so that point is mute.

With the exception of you, Hornet, the rest of us live with the golden rule, and contain ourselves. If anyone should be scared of anyone, you make a good argument towards yourself by your fear alone.

That is your opinion Hornet, but we don't live in a utopian world. Even God and the bible has stated that we can and must protect ourselves. In my home, conceal carry will be accepted.

Can you name one "GOOD" reason you need to have this law?
Wouldn't it be nice if every place/property on this planet would ban "armaments." Whether a weapon is used in a "mass" global war, or in a "intimate" personal war isn't the desired result the same? Overpowering, risking maiming/death of the other(s)? A means to an end?

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In the same vein...
When 9/11 happened, we were so "alarmed" about domestic terrorism. Ask people around the world about their own, "intimate" domestic terrorism. Women, men and children suffer/die daily from such terrorism in their own homes/towns...often with "armaments."

That's another $50 fee in taxes. What a windfall for Big Government especially when they have people willingly giving the money so the government can keep better track of all the guns they can't shoot.

Very good article! Thanks Ann Marie.

In regards to bars, you say here, and I quote; "only a handful of people can carry weapons into taverns. They include members of law enforcement, corrections or the military in the line of duty; the tavern license holder; the bar owner; the bar manager or someone with a valid Wisconsin concealed carry permit." That doesn't sound to limited, if you have a permit then you are not excluded from being able to carry legally into a bar or tavern, the way this reads. I would think that would be opening a bar owner to possibly a lot of problems, I am a gun owner and plan on getting my permit, however I will not be taking a loaded gun (or taser) into a bar with me, judgment can get clouded fast in that environment.
Just my opinion and that's the great thing about living in America I can still have that. One more note here is that the Post Office is a Government building, and carrying will not be permitted regardless of having a permit or not, unless you're law enforcement.

Sheriff Spoden told us in May is opinion on concealed carry...“I think it escalates every conflict that individuals are going to be involved in to a very dangerous level" I guess we better get ready for the wild west !