What does Sam do for a living?

He's to liberal and inexperienced to get my vote.

I don't feel sorry for any negative comments about Liebert. After all, he is the one who used a sexual slur against Gov Walker in an open council meeting.

I don't think it's really a big deal that he's running. Vote for who you think is the best candidate. End of story.

I remember him campaigning for Obama on the Stan Milam show. I would never vote for this clown.

"He should be running as a republican."

Or the UAW or WEAC, or the NEA....

Reading all these comment makes me wonder if this is representative of the community as a whole? If so I feel sorry for Janesville.

Keljo85, With all due respect I believe folks are commenting on the whole package, not just the age factor.

The fact that people are judging Sam on age alone is ridiculous. There are plenty of politicians out there who have been around forever and haven't done a thing! Just shows how close-minded our society is...

Olderandornerier said, "Just how would you know that pooba?"

Quite simply by the ignorance that is displayed in your comments. Such as, "...progressive Democrat. Now that is a nasty thing to say."

I'm sure he knows much more than you do about the workings of the city

Just how would you know that pooba?

I don't see the big deal. 35 years old to run for President should be extended to all elected positions.

Sam Liebert, 26, said he will run as a progressive Democrat. Now that is a nasty thing to say.

TooOldAndTooOrnery said, "26 is too young to know anything about the real world."

With his experience on the City Council, I'm sure he knows much more than you do about the workings of the city, regardless how old or how ornery you are.

Gee Fear, all you can do is call me dumb? I'm real impressed. (How old are you, 26?) It was refreshing that your post was not long rambling and preachy like most. 26 is still wet behind the ears, little breadth of life experience. Can anyone honestly say they have not learned much since 26?

"this guy knows how to squeeze every single cent he can out of "the system."

He should be running as a republican.

Someone who has never worked in a business that paid taxes and wants everyone else to pay more in taxes so he can buy votes. A natural Democrat.

""26 is too young to know anything about the real world."" from a poster named olderandornrier would you expect anything less? DUM da dumb dumb, dumbbbbbb. Cheesh.

WOW! Talking trash seems to have trumped intellegent conversation in many of these posts! Whether or not you believe Mr. Liebert is qualified, those who think that they could do a better job should throw their hats into the ring, up the ante a bit. I won't do it, I don't have the patience or the tolerance to put up with the BS that comes with such political positions.

It is one thing to share an opinion, exercising one's right of free speech--it's another to trash a person's willingness to put themselves out there with the belief that he/she can change things for the better.

26 is too young to know anything about the real world.

vatoloco...pretty sure you are wrong about him drowning in student loan debt. I'd be willing to bet the rent his education was 100% paid for. Like the rest of his family, this guy knows how to squeeze every single cent he can out of "the system."

I know this man personally. Please people, democrats/republicans/communists/whatever...no matter what you stand for, do not vote for him.

Poobah

I need healthcare...I think I'll rob a bank.....

PREcall Liebert!

With Liebert entering the race, this promises to be very interesting. A question which has not been answered is if he is stepping down from city council to run for this position? If so, there will be an even bigger turnover amongst the city council.

Playoffs? What about playoffs?

What's wrong with talking about jobs?

Liebert talked about jobs running for City Council. Then, the most action he took on jobs was picketing in front of Paul Ryan's office asking about jobs.

vatoloco said, "Greed is every where.....even in communism....."

"1) From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his needs."

"2) From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed."

Which of those are you most comfortable with, vatoloco?

Poobah

Who on these blogs throw out Fitzwalkisan,, fascist, Hitler etc.......? All you you potluck infesting liberal brotherhood pack of a amoebas on steroids....

vatoloco said, "Poobah Why are you so obsessed with China? You must be a control freak....."

You and your right wing patriots who have no clue what the differences are between communism and progressivism and use them as though they are interchangeable concepts brought this up, not I. Every time you get a little anxious you throw out the words communist or Nazi as though that's going to win the debate for you.

Greed is every where.....even in communism.....

vatoloco said, "Relax.....greed abides there too......don't worry......."

Oh, so that's your one word definition for capitalism? Greed?

Poobah

Why are you so obsessed with China? You must be a control freak.....

As long as Liebert doesn't make some hair-brain promise that he'll create 250,000 jobs or vote to steal hundreds of millions away from Wisconsin families and communities - he'll do okay. I expect the Barrett-majority local electorate will hold Knilans feet to the fire, if we can find out where he takes his hat and boots off. Will a republican challenge Joey in the primary? That may be the only chance republicans have to hold onto that seat. How many precincts is Joey eligible to vote in?

Relax.....greed abides there too......don't worry.......

I wonder why mainland China doesn't like this approach.....they liked the Tianamen Square massacre too much....

vatoloco, I'm not sure why it bothers you so much that the most free economy in the world is within communist China. Try to relax and explain your comment that, "Communism in Russia was all in theory."

Thompson

At least I have a personality......or two....

"If you are against Sam, then vote for someone else but to essentially say he does not have the right to run is wrong."

He can run all he wants...it looks like running could improve his health.....

"As one of the world's leading international financial centres, Hong Kong has a major capitalist service economy characterised by low taxation and free trade,"

Bingo.......Wow...what a concept....

Thompson

Stick to talking about a dying sport......

Leiberts announcement makes for a great race. He should be applauded for his willingness to say he is a career politician; while I probably dont believe with any of his personal positions-it could be great theatre if the 3 dems running, Sam, Yuri, and Deb-debated prior to the primary-it would be a great demonstration on who would promise more gov't for free.

While Mr Liebert says he will focus on Jobs, education, and govt accountability-the electorate should hold his feat to the fire. He will run on a platform of restoring the status quo and rewarding union donors who will finance his campaign. Hes offered nothing regarding education-which is about student acheievement first and union bargaining rights second, job creation; or govt accountability. My guess is that Mr Leibert would prefer not to be held accountable for anything he promises during this campaign-afterall he is running for a temporary job-he's not running to be king-where he and only he could wave his magic wand and give teachers unions raises and pension guarantees, create more private sector jobs, and promise that govt is accountable for securing and delivering prosperity to all.

poobah, i REALLY wouldn't bother if you are going to start injecting facts into the discussion..

Way too much negativity with the posts on these articles. If you are against Sam, then vote for someone else but to essentially say he does not have the right to run is wrong. I find it refreshing the amount of younger people running for office recently. They can bring a fresh perspective.

I wouldnt bother poobah. Vato has multiple personalities and multiple conversations going on at the same time here. About the only coherent thing vato has said here is that the people with the money have the say so.

"Hong Kong is one of two Special Administrative Regions of the People's Republic of China, the other being Macau." [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_kong ]

"Hong Kong’s economic freedom score is 89.9, making its economy the freest in the 2012 Index. Its overall score is 0.2 point higher than last year, with improvements in freedom from corruption and the control of government spending partially offset by a small decline in monetary freedom." [ http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking ]

"The United States’ economic freedom score of 76.3 drops it to 10th place in the 2012 Index. Its score is 1.5 points lower than last year, reflecting deteriorating scores for government spending, freedom from corruption, and investment freedom." [ http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking ]

Let's try this again...

vatoloco said, "Communism in Russia was all in theory."

Please explain that comment. And please explain if communism in China is "all in theory" also. Is capitalism in America "all in theory" as well?

Nations that embrace capitalism thrive and flourish.....have you noticed what's going on in socialist Europe?

Communism fell.....when the government tries to control everything...I know you know that

Centrally commanded economies do not work..the idea that an idea can sustain a nation with total control....

The US economy based on free enterprise system still stands........I suppose younthink greed doesn't exist in China or Cuba....

vatoloco said, "Communism in Russia was all in theory."

Please explain that comment. And please explain if communism in China is "all in theory" also. Is capitalism in America "all in theory" as well?

What district does Joe Knilans live in? When he was campaigning, he told everyone he was living in his brother's basement in the 44th, then later he bragged how he voted for Loudenbeck in the 45th district primary. Can Joe see the 44th district from his front porch? How many different voter ID's does Joe have?

The occupy movement? Remember or does the sincemilla got you by the pelotas?

In politics mi amigo.....

You should smoke some and focus. Yer all over the board hombre. YOU stated that you dont have the millions or billions and can't make a difference which is...wait for it...acknowledging that those with money have the power. I don't care where you are financially and I'm glad yo comfy with what you have, I'm not sure at all what that has to do with this convo and I have NO IDEA what any of this has to do with smoking pot and banging on drums. I've never approached the latter. Are you having muliple convo's at once and confusing them, or do you have multiple personalities trying to carry on one conversation??

Leibart focusing on job creation is like a blind man trying fly a 747 jumbo jet....

And, this guy is exactly what is wrong with our education system.....All about thoeries and systems and no real world applications......Obama essentially....the guy must be drowning in student loan debt.....

Leibert, just what we need, another extreme socialist in the Obummer mold.

No.....I am happy where I am at financially....I don't go around high on marijuana banging on drums and defecating on private property to get my way.....big difference....

Doesn't it feel good to finally acknowledge that you are part of the 99% and those with money have all the say so??:)

Thompson

I am not a millionaire or billionaire, I can't make a difference......in politics.....

He's probably getting healthcare under his parents plan unde Obamacare....they do cover until age 26......

Career politician at age 26. Yikes !

You crack me up vato. You are crazy huh?? In your haste to label me a hypocrite you failed to realize my point had nothing to do with labels. My point was that it's HILARIOUS that you come on here and say yer tired all the politicians saying they can fix employment/educaiton blah blah blah while at the same time doing the same thing so many other people are doing that I referred to in my first post, which is hiding behind an i.d. making fun of someone who is standing up for their beliefs and trying to make a change. Take off the mask vato and throw your hat in the ring as Mr. Leibert has, otherwise you are no better than those talking head fools in politics that you're so tired of.

Communism in Russia was all in theory......look at it now....

Hmmmm...self employed political consultant huh...sounds like someone looking to sponge off the rest of our working class backs to me. 26 years old, no apparent real world job experience, exactly what base of wisdom and knowledge is this guy using to represent the consituents of this district? Exactly.....none. Since when did politician switch from being a proven track record successful producer with a history and resume to be proud of, to career option for a green behind the ears newby with nothing to offer?

tthompson
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oldtimer: I'm sure there are certain times where it's cheaper, but I'm not kidding you at all. Check out how cheap a game can be...

http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/peace-and......

Feduptaxpayer: You are seriously mentally challenged. Keep that garbage off this blog. Be a Cubs fan and trash talk me all you want but there is enough political convo on this site I DO NOT WANT IT HERE.

Here is another of your posts BIG HYPOCRITE .......THOMPSON....you calling me a labeler?

Please....put it in a pipe and smoke it boy....

"Yer a moron. Seriously. Read the blog, I am OBVIOUSLY trying to differentiate between PED's and PAD's, I mean afterall, IT'S IN THE TITLE. Blast me for wanting PAD's legal...thats what I was expecting, but you only make yourself look less intelligent than you already are with posts like that."

Want to talk about labeling people.......hypocrite! Seems to me you want to join the moral superior crowd on these blogs....please Tim....

Glad to answer - that direction would be to ride in the wagon and let others push the wagon. Otherwise stated "Ask not what you can do for your country - Ask what your country will give to you. The folks are the anti JFK's - not your father's Democrats. Ok - your turn poobah - let your liberal left wing hate talk fly!

"R) you would be saying something along the lines of 'its nice to see young people get in volved in politics'. I'd wager money on it in fact."

Just like Milwaukee doesn't have the money to pay Fielder, you haven't either.....

Are you in the palm reading business?

RichE95 said, "Liebert, Rashkin etc are a pretty sad commentary on the direction much of Janesville seem headed in."

What "direction" would that be, Rich?

I suggest Mr Liebert try getting a real job with a real business. Drinking coffee all day at a coffee shop and talking politics is not productive work. Compare him with a real world businesman like Matt Kealy running for council. No comparison. Liebert, Rashkin etc are a pretty sad commentary on the direction much of Janesville seem headed in.

vatoloco said, "Personally, I am tired of all politicians R or D saying they can create jobs, fix education, and hold people accountable when we all know there is a huge bureaucratic elephant in the middle..."

Is it just my new glasses, or does that R look much larger than that D? I see you had the epiphany that most logical people eventually have. Do you care to tell us about your experience? Welcome to the club, vatoloco.

Is there a progressive party?

Did Mr Leibert run for a nonpartisan city coucil seat as a life long progressive? Mr Lieberts stated goals is to teach history. Go ahead and laugh-but he wants to go to Madison to restore the status quo first? Sure.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sam-liebert/...

'What is this guy going to do different than the rest of the communists?'

'Wow....is this guy ignorant or ignorant'

'Progressive means to take other people's money'

It's funny that you are 'tired of all politicians R or D saying they can create jobs, fix education, and hold people accountable' but you aren't tired of the name calling and silly judgements??

I truly know nothing of Mr. Leibert other than what I can read in this story, but I have a STRONG suspicion that if this guy said the exact same things and did have that (R) you would be saying something along the lines of 'its nice to see young people get in volved in politics'. I'd wager money on it in fact.

"This man simply does NOT have enough combined education and life experience for this endeavor. If he is elected I would hope our district would share in a high level of collective embarrassment."
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I thought this article was about Sam Liebert not Scott Walker.

""Personally, I am tired of all politicians R or D saying they can create jobs, fix education, and hold people accountable""

WHOA Vato!! When did you reach that conclusion? You have been saying to poor people to stop voting for Dems because they are responsible for all thats bad!! When did you realize that its BOTH parties? Because for once we agree, maybe now you should just tell people to not vote either party and send a clear message. Maybe we should press for strict legislation to get special interest money out of the game, and return this country to the people. BTW corporations arent people Mittens.

pre-RECALL Liebert!

I feel strongly about this so I just can't resist commenting again.

This man simply does NOT have enough combined education and life experience for this endeavor. If he is elected I would hope our district would share in a high level of collective embarrassment.

Lots of ignorance displayed here by people who have no idea of what progressivism is and what communism is. They are not even in the same category. It's like comparing apples and cars. Do some research, guys.

With China's economy doing better, you may want to be careful using communism as the evil your parents were once brainwashed into believing it is.

keljo- if the Gazette could elaborate more it would be nice.
It would be nice of Gazette could elaborate on Judge Canidates as well. The last article didn't have any info to go on. 3 questions and that was it.

Thompson

Personally, I am tired of all politicians R or D saying they can create jobs, fix education, and hold people accountable when we all know there is a huge bureaucratic elephant in the middle......This guy is no different...you can stand up for many things but getting things done is a whole diffetent matter....

Agree or disagree with his politics, it's nice to see someone stand up for those beliefs and get active. That is something 99.9% of the posters on this blog have no concept of. It's much easier to hide behind your crazy names and talk about things like communism and ridicule this young man for getting active.

Ha ha

Big assumptions on your part......

I honestly come on here just to read peoples comments. Sounds like half of you hate your life and everything in it.
That being said I wish Sam good luck, he has what it takes!

Just who I want to vote for, a lock step man for the unions. I wouldn’t vote for this guy is he was running for dog catcher. I remember watching this guy taking a pass on a tough vote for the city council when both sides were making compelling arguments on a land issue. He just said he couldn’t decide. Here’s a bit of advice; stick to lobbying for the far left and don’t pretend you can represent or cast a vote for the good of the majority of whoever you represent. Knilans has made the tough choice that WILL benefit the majority of taxpayers in Wisconsin and this failed recall attempt will show that.

Progressive means to take other people's money......I would not vote for this guy......

Sam has a lot more experience than just Janesville City Council. Do you research before you start your usual bashing...which is all people seem to do on here...

" I share in the disappointment and anger with Scott Walker’s performance as governor and his rubber-stamp Legislature."

Wow....is this guy ignorant or ignorant.....? We' were so happy with Doyle.....

" says his focus will be on jobs, education and government accountability."

What is this guy going to do different than the rest of the communists?

cnw - not much.

6 months on city council and now you are ready for this????

What is the difference between a "progressive" and a communist????

Grandiose Delusion, Brilliance, or Both?