Vote went smooth under new rules

By FRANK SCHULTZ ( Contact )   Wednesday, Feb. 22, 2012
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A voter at the Rotary Gardens polling place in Janesville signs in as part of the new procedures for voting in Wisconsin on Tuesday. Officials said the new rules and redrawn ward lines caused few problems.

A voter at the Rotary Gardens polling place in Janesville signs in as part of the new procedures for voting in Wisconsin on Tuesday. Officials said the new rules and redrawn ward lines caused few problems.

— The first election under Wisconsin's new voting rules and redrawn ward lines was about as smooth as could be expected, elections officials said Tuesday.

A few people complained about having to show photo ID cards, poll workers said.

One man even refused to vote at Rotary Gardens in Janesville because of the ID requirement, Chief Elections Inspector Sally Krueger said.

"I said, 'Go to City Hall and tell them,'" and the man left, Krueger said.

"He didn't cause a scene. He was very nice about it, and I said, 'Well, we all have our opinions—free country,'" she said.

City Clerk/Treasurer Jean Wulf said she was not aware of anyone complaining at City Hall, as of late afternoon.

New rules also required people to state their names and sign poll books before voting.

The rules didn't deter high turnouts in at least some jurisdictions.

Janesville had the highest turnout—about 20 percent—in Rock County, Rock County Clerk Lori Stottler said. In Rock County, 12,668 ballots were cast, which is 15 percent of registered active voters.

"All over the county, it was higher than usual," she said.

While the turnout wasn't a record, it's been at least a decade or two since it's been this high for a primary on a local race, she said.

Some polls by late afternoon were trending toward a doubling of what they normally see for primaries, she said.

In Walworth County, 2,019 ballots were cast in a scattering of primaries, Walworth County Clerk Kimberly Bushey said. Some parts of the county had no election, so a countywide turnout number would not be meaningful, she said.

Bushey did print some extra ballots for some municipalities at noon just to be on the safe side, she said.

No provisional ballots were cast in Walworth County, meaning everyone showed up with their identification, she said.

In Janesville, Krueger was calling for more ballots by about 10 a.m. She and other polls across the city were running low, so Wulf borrowed from Beloit to fill the gap, and then she ordered more.

Wulf said the highest spring primary turnout in the past 10 years was 2,200. She ordered 4,800 ballots for this election, which was not enough for the 6,600 cast.

Stottler, whose office pays for the ballots, said the 7,000 extras for Janesville cost $1,960.

Wulf said she probably wouldn't use all of the ballots, but she had to decide early so they could be printed in time to save the day.

As it was, Ward 3 used 15 ballots that had to be hand counted because they were copies that the machine tabulators could not read.

The high turnout was a good problem, officials said.

"What's really pleasing to me is all clerks and chief inspectors I spoke to, at nine hours into the process, were very cheery and optimistic and pleased with the way the day has gone," Stottler said. "Very few irritants, as we call them."

Chief Elections Inspector Bertha Janis at the Hedberg Public Library in Janesville noted "little grumbling, a little teasing, that's it."

Many at the library cracked jokes and greeted friends. One lady walking with a cane joked that she was just pulling out her ID, not a gun.

Most voters seen by Gazette observers seemed to know they needed ID cards to vote. In Janesville, many came with the postcards the city had sent out, telling them where they voted and what wards they lived in.

Many voters entered Kennedy Elementary School with the cards in hand, poll worker Marsha Mood said. Tuesday's voters were informed about the new law, she said.

Ward boundaries were redrawn for this election. Janesville wards were renumbered, and some new polling places were added, while others were abandoned. The changes didn't seem to faze most voters.

Walworth County also was humming along smoothly Tuesday, Bushey said. She said she didn't receive any complaints.

Wulf attributed the high turnout to expansive coverage by local news media in the weeks leading up to the election. She also suggested that the Janesville connections of all the judge candidates might have led to a voting spike in the city.

One possibility for trouble still remained Tuesday, Stottler said: The governor signed a bill Friday that altered the post-election process. The bill, Act 115, moved the certification of the official vote from Thursday to the next Tuesday, Stottler said.

The extra time accommodates late-arriving absentee ballots, which will be counted if they are postmarked by Tuesday and received by Friday. It also allows time to count provisional ballots, which were issued to voters who didn't have proper IDs or whose status was questioned for some other reason. Those voters have until Friday to prove to their local clerks that their votes are valid.

Those late-counted votes, as well as any changes discovered when the official canvass is conducted next Tuesday, could make a difference in a close election, Stottler said.

Stottler sent an email to news media Tuesday morning, warning them not to be hasty in declaring winners in close races.

Officials will face bigger crowds and many more inexperienced voters for the presidential preference primary and the nonpartisan spring elections April 3.

Gazette reporter Gina Duwe contributed to this report.

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wasp2491
Feb 23, 2012 at 5:16 p.m.
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Third Eye, I travel all over U.S.,use credit cards and debit cards. I may have been asked for ID once in last year. That having been said, all of those things are choices I made. Voting is a right, not a privilege. The evidence of more than a handful voter fraud cases is also pretty anecdotal and the type they were, wouldn't have been stopped by an ID anyway if you research the facts. We are spending a lot of money for nothing in my opinion.

frogger
Feb 23, 2012 at 4:25 p.m.
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totell- don't confuse people. Still need a COPY of id for absentee voting.

lovemycountry
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:49 p.m.
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janesvillean - no apocalypse predicted? Then how about just one disenfranchised voter as evidence ? Surely, the left spent much of election day looking for any problem, from any place in the state. Nothing ? No one came forward ?

Third_Eye
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:42 p.m.
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Wasp; 50 years ago each credit union was only open to a select group of people, for example government employees, employees of a specific employer, or members of a specific union. They already had your ID by virtue of your belonging to the required group.
Anecdotal evidence proves little if anything.

wasp2491
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:31 p.m.
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Wonders, sorry, I didn't need an ID to open my account. I've been at the same credit union in Madison for over 50 years. deal with them by mail or internet, my friend. Never have needed ID.

wasp2491
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:25 p.m.
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Sorry wonders I didn't need an ID to open my account. I've been at the same credit union in Madison for over 50 years. Sorry about that my friend.

wonders
Feb 23, 2012 at 12:38 p.m.
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Ok I try to be a central slight right kind of person and I also try not to beat up on anyone, but I have to reply to this again. Yeah I voted for Regan but I also voted for Clinton.

First, even in the “olden times” you had to present an ID, the ID was your face because the towns were small and “everyone knew your name” just like in Cheers. Now with people moving as much as they do, and others just showing up in the US by whatever means they can it is well past time to have an ID on you.
I am not 100% sure but if a cop asked for your ID you have to show them one, or be detained until they can figure out who you are. How does that work for ya?

But hey I have an idea, how about we eliminate ALL identification, no one needs ANYTHING to prove who they are. That way when I go to the hospital, the store or wherever I can claim to be anyone I want.
Come on folks let’s get real here, it is not that hard to get identification no matter what some may think, or want to believe.

janesvillean
Feb 23, 2012 at 12:26 p.m.
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Oh, I see now that the counter-claim is that the "apocalypse" did not happen, that the "sky did not fall". But these were not the claims made. They do not refute the basic argument that this law has created obstacles to voting and the measure of how well they surmount obstacles is not how "smoothly" the actual balloting proceeded.
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Straw men burn well.

orange
Feb 23, 2012 at 11:53 a.m.
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It will land on Walkers head pretty soon.

lovemycountry
Feb 23, 2012 at 11:34 a.m.
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Once Again, Liberals’ Forecast of Doom Fizzles – Voter ID Implemented, Sky Does Not Fall

http://maciverinstitute.com/2012/02/once...

Midnight_Ride
Feb 23, 2012 at 11:32 a.m.
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Needed my ID write a check at Best Buy. Customer suppression!

Third_Eye
Feb 23, 2012 at 11:14 a.m.
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Even in the biggest elections when turnout is high, people who float through life without ID's are not likely in the voting pool.
As for the elderly and other 'victims' that the left parades out... well they do have that old lady up north they seem to bring up frequently...
The fact is a majority of elderly people are doing just fine voting and carrying ID's. Sometimes they get out to buy alcohol and chuckle when required to show ID.

Third_Eye
Feb 23, 2012 at 11:03 a.m.
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dal Feb 23, 2012 at 10:22 a.m.
ie; Don't bother me with the facts, I've already made up my mind.

Peanut_Butter_Jelly_Time
Feb 23, 2012 at 11:01 a.m.
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I still think if someone is too inconvenienced to get an id, they'll probably be too inconvenienced to vote. After all, it took me longer to wait in line to vote in the last election that didn’t require voter id than it took me to wait in line at the DMV to renew my driver’s license. As for the guy at Rotary Gardens, it makes me wonder how he got there to vote. If he drove was it without a valid driver’s license???

usaret
Feb 23, 2012 at 10:49 a.m.
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CAN ANYONE PROVIDE ACTUAL PROOF OF THIS BEING VOTER SUPPRESSION?
Who is being prevented from voting? JUST DEMOCRAT'S SINCE they are the one's doing the basic complaining.
HAS ANYBODY BEEN DENIED THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND IF SO WERE THEY GIVEN A REASON AND HOW TO CORRECT IT?
come on SPEAK UP!!!!!!!!

dal
Feb 23, 2012 at 10:22 a.m.
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It doesn't matter if the vote went smoothly. This is still voter suppression.

fishnbuddy
Feb 23, 2012 at 10:15 a.m.
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If the recall does not go well for the Repubs, they may want to try fingerprinting and dna samples!

SwissChick
Feb 23, 2012 at 9:15 a.m.
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I also had to show my ID at Shopko yesterday when I picked up my new spectacles. What a sham!

SwissChick
Feb 23, 2012 at 9:13 a.m.
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And, social security direct-deposits are a "relatively" new thing. That hasn't been going on forever. Checks used to be sent out.

garyprimer
Feb 23, 2012 at 9:06 a.m.
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It went smooth
for those not knowing the difference
between an adjective and an adverb.

RichE95
Feb 23, 2012 at 9:04 a.m.
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What a breath of fresh air to go to the polls and see responsibility in action. This long long overdue measure is just as easy as cashing a check or showing ID at the doctor's office. No longer do I have a quesy feeling when voting thinking how easy it would be for someone to claim my identify.

non_grata
Feb 23, 2012 at 8:03 a.m.
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I think they went smoothly before the new law.

donnaw
Feb 23, 2012 at 7:42 a.m.
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My husband recently found out he is registered to vote in Madison. We moved from there over 20 years ago. If he wanted to, prior to the ID law, he could vote both in Madison and where we live now.

wonders
Feb 23, 2012 at 7:21 a.m.
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Wasp, you are correct on one point SS is direct deposit to the bank, what you failed in was to open that account you have to provide ID. Sorry your argument does not stand up.

saxcat70
Feb 23, 2012 at 6:51 a.m.
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One man even refused to vote at Rotary Gardens in Janesville because of the ID requirement.

Good. one less vote for the demobrats.

wasp2491
Feb 23, 2012 at 6:35 a.m.
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When there is a heavy turn out this will slow down voting a great deal. People on social security don't get checks, their money is sent electronically to their bank. This was the first time I had to show any ID in about a year. ID's are not as easy to get as people think. Many older people never had a birth certificate, so to get a birth certificate you need an ID, to get an ID you need a birth certificate. The few problems that were encountered with so called voter fraud, after spending millions of dollars after the last election were some felons that were still on parole. Once off parole they can vote again. Voter ID wouldn't catch that any way.

DwightKSchrute
Feb 22, 2012 at 8:57 p.m.
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If you don't have a proper ID or don't have it with you, you can still cast a provisional ballot. If you cast a provisional ballot, you have until the Friday following the election to provide a proper ID.

Maxcap75
Feb 22, 2012 at 8:48 p.m.
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Very well put towerpainter.

towerpainter
Feb 22, 2012 at 8:31 p.m.
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@ werpknarly The end of that article if read with a clear conscious would have to return three questions regarding those groups that are most likely to be affected.

Elderly: How do they prove who they are to get a SS check? or cash one?
Students: Being as how students even in middle school have ID's how is this an insurmountable hurdle?
Minorities: Are minorities less capable of getting an ID than whites?

In the case of minorities it makes me sick to think that in 2012 liberals actually believe that minorities are incapable of functioning at the same level as the majority otherwise known as whites. It is overt racism and I am so tired of this as the white liberals battle cry. Oh the poor minorities is a wore out ridiculous argument. Are we not just all people? My neighbor is black (there is no such thing as an African American as people who are born here are just Americans) Anyway I do not say "That black guy who lives next to me". No, he is just my neighbor. What the hell difference does it make that he is black?

myviews2
Feb 22, 2012 at 8:20 p.m.
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I would expect with a low percentage turnout that things would go smoothly. I didn't see any problems anyway but it did take us longer to get through the sign-in process. I suspect one of the goals for the new laws is to create long lines and mass confusion in an election with a heave turnout as a heavy turnout tends to favor Democrats. ALEC seems to have discussed all of these ways to sabotage and suppress voting as they know their positions and proposals would be unpopular with all the but the radical right-wingers. True patriots they are.......

towerpainter
Feb 22, 2012 at 8:13 p.m.
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I thought that the fact that you need an ID to vote was going to bring about the apocalypse! Hmmmm I dunno world is still turning and I think that the "voter suppression crowd" may have overstated they're case. People need an ID to rent videos, cash welfare checks, buy cigarettes/alcohol, rent a car, fly on a plane, use a credit card sometimes and the list goes on. Why not a cry out that it is unfair for making people show ID for any one of these items or at traffic stops for that matter. The simple fact is that this law makes sense and only discriminates agains irresponsibility. Now if we could just have a basic litmus test to prove that voters understood basic constitutional ideas and principles at the state and federal level we would really have something. If I were king for a day I would remove the right to vote from ANYONE who receives a majority of their income from the state or feds. Only taxpayers should be allowed to vote. Those who disagree surely believe that something is free or just do not care how things get paid for.

werpknarly
Feb 22, 2012 at 6:28 p.m.
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Madison voters turned away at polls for lacking photo ID
http://m.isthmus.com/article.php?article...

There was also continued confusion among poll workers over the photo ID requirements. Attorney Tim Verhoff, who recently moved to a new house, says he had no problem when he presented his driver's license with his old address. But his wife's license with her old address was rejected at the same polling station. That should not have happened.

ccracerx
Feb 22, 2012 at 5:41 p.m.
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Did he refuse to vote or not have proper ID?

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