Romney wows supporters in Janesville

By FRANK SCHULTZ ( Contact )   Monday, June 18, 2012
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Mitt Romney speaks at Monterey Mills Monday morning.

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— Mitt Romney came to Janesville on Monday, saying he plans to win Wisconsin in his bid to take the White House.

“You’re going to be the deciding voice” in the Nov. 6 elections, he told the crowd as he wrapped up his speech to about 700 inside the Monterey Mills factory.

The crowd gave him an enthusiastic welcome, belying the fact that Rock County has shown itself to be among the bluest in the state, preferring Tom Barrett over Gov. Scott Walker by 12 percentage points in the June 5 recall elections.

Romney said his opponent, President Barack Obama, had assumed Wisconsin would vote Democratic this year, “but you know what? We’re gonna win Wisconsin. We’re here to get the White House.”

No one heckled Romney inside, and only about 60 people outside peacefully protested his appearance.

Romney appeared relaxed and spoke smoothly to the friendly crowd. He said he is the candidate who can set America back on a course to freedom, jobs and balancing the budget.

Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis, attracted a group of reporters before the event began.

“I think Gov. Walker’s election (in the recall elections of June 5) tells us that it’s all over the state,” Johnson said of Republican support. “I think Mitt Romney coming here to Rock County is an expressing of his confidence in winning the state.”

Romney did not mention talk that has re-erupted in recent days about Rep. Paul Ryan joining him as the vice presidential candidate. Dan Sinykin, president and CEO of Monterey Mills, alluded to the possibility.

“Gov. Romney, we’re in Congressman Ryan’s hometown. He’s right here. If you have an announcement to make?

Applause and appreciative laughter followed.

Romney did not mention vice-presidential picks, which normally come out around the time of the party’s national convention, which is in August.

Romney stuck to his speeches of recent days, saying Obama is out of touch and that Obama’s economic policies have failed.

“My priority is putting people back to work. That’s Job 1,” Romney said.

Romney said a great job generator can be the country’s energy resources, which he defined as coal and natural gas.

Romney also said he would get rid of “this cloud that’s hanging over small business today,” which he said is keeping business owners from hiring more people.

That cloud is uncertainty over how the president’s health-care reform—Romney called it Obamacare—would affect business, Romney said.

“The whole cause of liberty and freedom,” as Romney put it, came up in several speeches at the event.

Ryan said the Nov. 6 elections are about a choice between two directions for the nation.

“What kind of country do we want to have? What kind of people do we want to be?” Ryan said.

“Free!” a man shouted.

“We want to be free, that’s right,” Ryan said as the crowd applauded.

The choice is between the “historic American idea of an opportunity society with a safety net” or “the path we are on, a society in decline, with a debt crisis on the horizon, more joblessness, a government-centered society and a government-driven economy. … We want an opportunity society. We want upward mobility. We want people to be able to reach their potential. We want a safety net that gets people back on their feet, not a hammock that lulls them into lies of complacency and dependency,” Ryan said. “We look at Europe, and we see where they’re headed, and we don’t want to go in that direction.”

Romney said a British politician recently told him that “the one thing we all fear the most is a weak America. American strength—military strength, economic strength, strength in our homes—American strength is the biggest ally peace has ever known.”

That comment elicited prolonged applause.

Monterey Mills employee Mike Rousch said he was most impressed by Romney’s pro-business stance.

“He comes across as a man who really wants to get the country going again,” Rousch said.

Michael Weber of Elkhorn said he prefers Romneys’ foreign policy, especially what Weber sees as Obama’s alienation of ally Israel.

“Obama’s not doing the country any good, and we’ve got to perform a change,” Weber said.

The event began with the National Anthem at about 9:20 a.m. Romney wrapped up his speech shortly after 10 a.m. before shaking hands and chatting with well wishers.

The Romney bus tour was scheduled to head to Iowa later in the day. Janesville was his only planned stop in Wisconsin.

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GrandOldPlutocracy
Jul 5, 2012 at 2:14 p.m.
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http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/...

http://www.themorningsun.com/article/201...

Off-shoring & Outsourcing: Mittens favorite two words in the English language.

Bowlgal
Jun 29, 2012 at 7:15 a.m.
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I will choose the Mormon for sure.

wislady
Jun 27, 2012 at 7:37 a.m.
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The choice is ...Mormon or Moron.

dtb
Jun 25, 2012 at 10:35 p.m.
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"Mormonism is a form of Christian faith that shares a common set of beliefs with the rest of the Latter Day Saint movement, including use of, and belief in, the Bible."

Don't forget polygamy.

norseman
Jun 25, 2012 at 5:12 p.m.
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So you would be okay with a candidate who believed the world sails around the world on a giant turtle and Jesus is his (the candidates) savior? Just wondering

kaysbrew
Jun 25, 2012 at 4:31 p.m.
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Ezoner
We already have seen what a person who believes in Wright and Farrakhan have done. This nation took a chance on a "Catholic" in 1960.

Mormonism is a form of Christian faith that shares a common set of beliefs with the rest of the Latter Day Saint movement, including use of, and belief in, the Bible.

Strong family values, Governor, businessman. To this day more qualified to be President then Obama.

gazettefan
Jun 25, 2012 at 4:30 p.m.
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But the world would end before he took office.

Ezoner
Jun 25, 2012 at 2:25 p.m.
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Gazette & Others. You choose to malign Romney for Mormonism -- yet say nothing about Obamas Rev Wright --- -- personally -- I could care less if he believed in the end of the world according to the Myan calaneder... as long as he con improve our economic path.

gazettefan
Jun 25, 2012 at 1:57 p.m.
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Good point, norseman. Imagine Romney on national media explaining the basis for mormonism.

It would be like billnewbie rationalizing his right-wingism after discussing his weird belief in the supernatural powers of a long-dead itinerant, communistic, Palestinian rabbi who he claims is his lord and savior.

norseman
Jun 25, 2012 at 11:56 a.m.
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I hate to offend anyone but how can someone dumb enough to believe in Mormonism be smart enough to be President of the United States.

kaysbrew
Jun 25, 2012 at 8:47 a.m.
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At least GP is now admitting they are all our problems and multiple
Great posts RAF and soooooo true.!!

packolies
Jun 24, 2012 at 1:25 p.m.
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mittens will just whip out his magic underwear and all problems will be fixed

garyprimer
Jun 24, 2012 at 12:27 p.m.
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Perhaps Romney can fix all of our problems with his secret plans.
Perhaps they are inscribed on golden plates that only he can understand.
In any case, Buttercup likes them you tubes.

batmanb4robin
Jun 23, 2012 at 4:41 p.m.
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unfortunately, our only real choices anymore are Republican'ts & Democan'ts. Until we do away with these 2 parties (which are only marginally different in values, & morals.. if they're really different anymore at all), or stop voting for them. Its not ever going to change here. How many Presidents in the last 25 yrs have "stopped wasteful spending of taxpayers money!".. Or here's one from our last campaign.. "I'm for auditing the FED"... They tell us what they know we want to hear, then, after they are elected/re-elected... Its SOP (Standard Operating Procedures). Another thing that galls me is, all they have to do is get elected 1 time, & they are set for life on Salaries, & benefits. Its political organized crime, & American's (the majority) just sit back, & watch, as they rape & pillage our children's, & grandchildren futures. This election season.. I'm not voting for anyone with a Elephant, & Jacka$$ behind them. However.. having said all that, I think we are already to late even if the sleeping woke up. Economist say "the real bubble hasn't popped yet, & its going to soon. And I think they are correct.

I know.. I know... "Nay Sayer!" "Gloom, & Doom".. enter your own here.. But time will tell whose right.

Midnight_Ride
Jun 23, 2012 at 1:14 p.m.
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Gary Primer "When MSNBC reports on conservatives, it is comedy."

Ratings: Not many people tuning in to watch a good MSNBC comedy these days.

garyprimer
Jun 23, 2012 at 9:43 a.m.
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It is really quite simple regarding Fox and MSNBC.
When Fox reports on liberals it is witch hunting, race baiting, misogeny, and misanthropy.
When MSNBC reports on conservatives, it is comedy.

gazettefan
Jun 23, 2012 at 7:35 a.m.
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Yes, billnewbie, long winded posts indeed. Your cliche ridden word piles are nothing more than variations on the vapidity of preacher-speak.

"Malicious revisionism" doesn't even make any sense.

Somehow all that stuff is misdirection from the fact that you feel you have a special relationship with the almighty creator of the universe while that thing ignores the thousands of babies and children who die each day from dirty water and malnutrition.

As for the adoption policies of your church and the Romney candidacy, maybe you've learned your lesson by now re: being polite about posting on this site.

tthompson
Jun 22, 2012 at 5:56 p.m.
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Hahaha. My honor from YOUR perspective, not worth going thru a few posts no, certainly not worth going thru thousands. Especially cuz there's no link to take me to number 1. I have always been gainfully employed. I have always sold more cars than anyone at the dealership. I have always been there for my kids. I have never missed a support payment. I volunteer frequently at the kids' school as well as coach baseball teams. I don't lie. I don't cheat. I don't steal. I've raised THOUSANDS for WI special olympics. Everything I have in my life I have because I earned(and because I quit drinking). If I'm less honorable in your eyes because we disagree on a convo we had YEARS ago, so be it. I was told that we do not judge lest ye be judged, but I also understand to some people those are just words.

billnewbie
Jun 22, 2012 at 5:31 p.m.
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So your honor isn't worth the work to review a few posts. Pity.

tthompson
Jun 22, 2012 at 5:21 p.m.
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'Tim, an honorable man would admit that he's wrong'

Ha. I'm not making the convo up, but seriously I'm not going thru 3000+ posts to prove I'm right cuz I really could care less. I know the convo. You brought marijuana into THIS convo, why don't you just explain again why your god put the plant on earth??

'I guess our highly educated liberal activists somehow missed that quote and how it applies to their protesting efforts'

Not one literal word, but aren't you inferring that here?? The story was about the protesters, who else could you have been talking about bill??

'There is an entire industry dedicated to doing just that. It's known as artificial insemination. If humans can do it, certainly God can, isn't that so?'

Good point about AI. If god had science then yes. The two contradict each other however.

'You should really be less cynical, Tim. It impedes your rationality making you say silly things. Ad when you want to take a cheapshot, take more time. Don't be in such a hurry. It will keep you from making a fool of yourself so badly.'

Personality advice now bill?? You should hang out with me for a bit, 75% of what I say is silly and I consider myself pretty good at the back handed cheap shot and if you were good too you would know that the best ones take the least amount of time. They don't all work bill, but like any form of art, there is always room to learn and grow.

'Oh, and one more piece of advice. Just because a crowd of folks are heaping ridicule doesn't mean they are right. In fact, since they stoop to that, they usually are wrong. Don't be an Orwellian sheep.'

I obviously have no problem putting my life out there because I have NOTHING to hide in the life that I live. Even if you disagree with my personal opinions, to say that I am a sheep means that you have that opinion formed from nothing other than the fact that you disagree with my personal beliefs. How many sheeps stand up and put everything out there to show that they truly believe in something?? How many people on here use their real names?? Out of thousands of posters, it's less than a handful. I'm a sheep?? I have NEVER been accused of being a follower so that really just shows me after reading my posts for years, you still have learned nothing about me. I soooooo wish I had nothing but time to find that story where you acknowledged your god may have put cannabis here for animals to consume in nature, as medicine.

billnewbie
Jun 22, 2012 at 4:54 p.m.
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Tim, an honorable man would admit that he's wrong. Post a link to something I posted that says that nonsense that you said I said and I'll admit it. I've already searched my personal archive and I find nothing to back up your absurd claim. Do the honorable thing, back up your claim or retract it.

As for your newest misinterpretation of something I posted that the protestors would go insane, here's what I really posted verbatim on June 18 at 1:05 p.m. on that story I linked previously.
"So, a crowd protested Romney's appearance, eh? Yeah, they had so much success protesting Governor Walker with the recall election they must think it will work again in November. And it probably will work just as well for them in November as it did on June 5th.

What was it that Einstein said? Oh yeah, he said something like "a description of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". I guess our highly educated liberal activists somehow missed that quote and how it applies to their protesting efforts in their vast and various fields of study. Or maybe they didn't but they just can't help themselves."

Not one word about protestors going insane. Only that it's insanity to try the same things over and over again expecting different results, as Einstein said. That's not just a subtle difference, is it Tim? It's clear that you do have a problem with perception for the reasons I stated before.

As for that other cynical cheapshot about believing a baby can be conceived without sexual intercourse, don't you? There is an entire industry dedicated to doing just that. It's known as artificial insemination. If humans can do it, certainly God can, isn't that so?

You should really be less cynical, Tim. It impedes your rationality making you say silly things. Ad when you want to take a cheapshot, take more time. Don't be in such a hurry. It will keep you from making a fool of yourself so badly.

Oh, and one more piece of advice. Just because a crowd of folks are heaping ridicule doesn't mean they are right. In fact, since they stoop to that, they usually are wrong. Don't be an Orwellian sheep.

tthompson
Jun 22, 2012 at 4 p.m.
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And seriously Billnewbie, I don't discuss that topic much here anymore, mostly cuz the gazette shut those stories down. I'm biding my time and keeping my name out there for when the time is right...and the time will be right. I could really care less what you really said or what you really meant to say or how I may or may not have interpreted it properly. I know the feeling is 100% mutual, but your thoughts of me are of very little consequence in my life. I know how you feel about your holier than thou lifestyle compared to mine and regardless of the facts I present to you, your mind will not change. You are exactly what I was referring to earlier. You are not open to new info but rather you prefer to get your long winded preacher posts in your always smarter than those who disagree with you kind of way. The soon to be Mrs and I just bought and moved to a nice 5 acre farm that we are going to turn into a full function bio-dynamic farm...or at least that's the plan. The last thing I'm going to waste my time with is searching thru those 3,000+ long winded preacher posts to prove to you that I'm right. I'll just do what you do and put my nose up in the air and know that I am. It's so easy with the god-fearing people. It's 100% natural, why did He put it here, if not to consume??

tthompson
Jun 22, 2012 at 3:47 p.m.
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You mean that story that most people ridiculed you for claiming the protestors would go insane. If I find that quote then what Mr. Newbie?? You acknowledged that your god may have put mj here for the animals to use as medicine(why else would god put it on earth??), you just don't agree with a human beings right to consume. Isn't that the overview of what I said??

'You seem to have a history of seeing things that aren't there.'

Says the man who believes a baby can be conceived without sexual intercourse.

billnewbie
Jun 22, 2012 at 1:52 p.m.
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By the way Gazettefan, BULLSEYE!!!!!

billnewbie
Jun 22, 2012 at 1:44 p.m.
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Tim, if you're so sure, look it up and re-post it. If I said it, I'll claim it. You won't be able to though, because I never posted anything like it. You seem to have perception problems which leads you to post intemperate things when the topic is your favorite drug (which is probably why the Gazette doesn't allow comments on Marijuana stories anymore) or with people who have irritated you.

It's like the other day on this story.
http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/latest-ne...
You posted something silly, saying "please tell me that you don't think the protesters last year invented protesting do you??" You apparently didn't see my response so I'll quote it here.
"Why, no Tim. I don't think the protesters last year invented protesting. Maybe if you weren't so quick to try being a wiseacre, you might have discerned that answer for yourself since no such implication was made or intended."

You seem to have a history of seeing things that aren't there.

I'd call you an unintentional revisionist in these cases, in that I don't believe you are doing it on purpose, it's just that your biases and wishful thinking lead you to make these perception errors. That and your urge to get even for past arguments lost which makes you a little too quick to fire off a shot. Unlike your buddy Gazettefan who is just a malicious revisionist.

gazettefan
Jun 22, 2012 at 8:46 a.m.
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True, Tim.

billnewbie, has tunnel vision. He dodges issues like the latest development in the devout christian Sandusky's court case and the related issue going on in the church. We need an overhaul of the church's adoption policies, especially as it relates to Romney's candidacy.

RetiredAirForce
Jun 22, 2012 at 8:06 a.m.
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More mormon talk by libs, the same ones that have no issue with the dem leader of the senate who is also mormon. Clueless.

tthompson
Jun 22, 2012 at 6:33 a.m.
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i don't care about al gore. I prooved to u that fox has doctored video, which u said they didn't do. You ask for a link to verify fox doctored video. I posted one and explained how to see more. If giving you what you ask for isnt good enough, what can i do?? I JUST explained that i woupd punish worse, but it would be for WHAT they lied about, not that they lied. Kid two gets punished worse cuz he hit someone, not worse for lieing about it. I give up. You're not actually reading anything I write.

yada
Jun 22, 2012 at 6:20 a.m.
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Excellent article to read if you think you might support a Mormon for Pres.

"Romney's Mormon Problem - Mitt Romney And The Weird And Sinister Beliefs Of Mormonism"

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_p...

kaysbrew
Jun 22, 2012 at 5:23 a.m.
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Oh T - why can't you just stop taughting me and get in the last word? Al Gore lied and Fox News caught him. Why did they need to include that lie? The whole global warming campaign by the liberals is a lie. Jeez.
Romney's tape was to smear his character.
So you would punish you kids the same. Didn't make the bed vs hitting. Interesting. Would you demand an apology? None forthcoming from MSNBC.

kaysbrew
Jun 22, 2012 at 5:16 a.m.
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yadamousewiggle
I love that! So much more then Sweetie.

I hearby decree from this day forward that you may call me Queen Kay.

you may applaud now

liberals, progressives, markist, leftist, socialist..You guys need to pick a name you like for yourselves before you criticize me for using one of them.
We have one, just one ...Conservative

tthompson
Jun 21, 2012 at 9:17 p.m.
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That is what u said old chap. Maybe not word for word, but the point is there.

Kay: here is one vid. I also watched a 2 part vid that maddow had regarding what fox news aired in that Acorn mess. I'm on my phone so I have limited ability, but Google fox news doctored video an you'll see it

http://www.politicususa.com/Fox-News-Gor...

billnewbie
Jun 21, 2012 at 8:40 p.m.
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As so often happens Tim, what you thought I said bears little resemblance to what I actually said. And that still cracks me up!

tthompson
Jun 21, 2012 at 8:28 p.m.
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Kay: One last time. I'm not concerned with the content of the doctoring. ITS NOT ABOUT WHAT THE STATION DID, ITS ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK OF THOSE WHO WATCHED IT. READ THAT AGAIN PLEASE. I would not punish worse for one lie over another. If one lie is deemed 'worse' its because of what they lied about that they would be punished worse for. A lie is a lie.

billnewbie: according to kay you must be a liberal huh??

'- there is absolutely no reason for you to enter this conversation to personally attack - my point T - liberals.'

Don't worry, I won't bring up the 'lost cause' convo where you acknowledged that god may have put marijuana here for animals to use as medicine...just not human animals. That one STILL cracks me up.

billnewbie
Jun 21, 2012 at 7:49 p.m.
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Speaking of "lost causes", if the conversation turns to buying marijuana on the black market and how that funds the murderers in Mexico which is why it shouldn't be done, I can think of at least one avid Brewer fan who definitely qualifies as a "lost cause".

Midnight_Ride
Jun 21, 2012 at 7:43 p.m.
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vatoloco
Jun 21, 2012 at 4:31 p.m.
When Fox might do some inaccuracy, its racism, hate, inciting violence....Their is clearly a double standard.

Yes, clearly!

Midnight_Ride
Jun 21, 2012 at 7:39 p.m.
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Kaysbrew you hit a nerve on wiggle who uses many names that I've heard mouse use in other entries. If she isn't name calling, you aren't making the good points.
tthompson - we do enter opinions and no minds get changed but aren't you the least bit interested in the working minds of the extremes? I read a lot before pulling the trigger to enter in. I'm sure many others are doing the same right now.

wiggle
Jun 21, 2012 at 7:25 p.m.
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Ohhhh miss queen kay speaks! Listen up honey, I was having a conversation with vato at 11 am, who's butt'in in?
Is this not a public blog? or are you the only one who can comment?
BTW I didn't mention your name, what makes you think your in a position to even address me when I have not spoken to you queenie. Get over yourself and maybe your life wouldn't be in such a state you feel you have the right to attack someone who hasn't given you the time of day?

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 7:07 p.m.
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vatoloco
Jun 21, 2012 at 4:31 p.m.
When Fox might do some inaccuracy, its racism, hate, inciting violence....Their is clearly a double standard.

Right! This also falls into the liberals demanding Romney disavow the few hecklers that are showing up at Obama speeches but have paid groups following Romney around to the point he keeps his appearances as secret as possible.
That my friend is what the left brings.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2...

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 6:57 p.m.
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wiggle
- there is absolutely no reason for you to enter this conversation to personally attack - my point T - liberals.
V -offered an opinion in addition to what T and I are discussing.
Offer an opinion on the story or bud out!

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 6:52 p.m.
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T -
I know you don't punish your kids for the same infraction if one lie is worse based on content. I know I said I'd give you the last word but had to break in here with something else.
Let's assume I agree with you a lie is a lie. Then do you not agree with me that the hyprocrisy is greater on the left. FOX has not doctored tape (I'd like you to link that if they did)
There was different footage aired during a story which they apologized twice the next day in each hour of that aired program.
Andrea Mitchell and MSNBC no news not only did not apologize after coming under fire they aired only the last part of the Romney content after "amazing" not giving full content and LIED to the viewers about why they faked the footage. TSK TSK That is "amazing"
So a lie is a lie, but if it's not repaired or even acknowledged, it's still a lie. That is MSNBC in a nut shell.

tthompson
Jun 21, 2012 at 6:16 p.m.
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I don't always agree with Vato, but the convo between the two of us has always been civil. The fact is 99% of the people who post on here are 'lost causes' if a 'lost cause' is determined by ones ability to be open to learning new info and gaining a new perspective. People don't post on here to learn or become part of a convo nearly as much as they do to dictate their own opinions...over...and over...and over.

wiggle
Jun 21, 2012 at 5:26 p.m.
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T - regarding vato - it's a lost cause. He is the true meaning of hypocrite. What ever his party does is ok or twisted around so bad it's hard to tell what his truth is. Like his comments about how his wife was so upset that Barrett would bash DH that she had to vote for walker yet she lives with a guy who spends most of his day bashing others.
So she won't vote for someone because of bashing, but she votes for someone bashing, lives with a basher, yet he thinks I'M stupid.
Hypocrite - prue and simple!

tthompson
Jun 21, 2012 at 4:45 p.m.
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For the record Vato: Fox news has doctored video, which is more than being inaccurate, it's mis-leading.

tthompson
Jun 21, 2012 at 4:42 p.m.
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Vato: That may be 100% truth. My guess is that there are people on the left who would say the same thing about Fox but who knows. I haven't had cable/broadcast t.v. in my house for years and now we don't even have internets on our new farm, so I don't watch anything on either channel. I wouldn't/didn't when they were available so no big loss. My point isn't to say that one station is better or more righteous than the other. My whole point is that a Fox News viewer has no more right to question the ability for rational thought of an MSNBC viewer than that viewer has to question a Fox News viewers ability for rational thought. I would think that almost everyone would agree with me that Fox News is to the right, what MSNBC is to the left. No better. No worse. Both will slant the news to favor their ideals.

This is why I get a majority of my news from the always factual Gazettextra posters:)

tthompson
Jun 21, 2012 at 4:33 p.m.
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Well then I give up because I've stated numerous times on this round about that I'm not condoning it and if those specific words don't validate my position then nothing will, because you've already made up your mind. I have not even posted a comment regarding what MSNBC did. My comments have been direcated specifically at what you did, which is belittle the viewers of MSNBC because that station aired doctored video. UPDATE: Fox news is to the right what MSNBC is to the left. No better. No worse and the viewers of either channel certainly can't have their ability for rational thought questioned merely because of a doctored video that was on a channel they were watching. If that were the case then we could probably question a majority of America's ability for rational thought for watching 'reality' TV:)

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 4:18 p.m.
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Since you asked, I think you are condoning it. Incorrect footage vs deliberate slander? Big lie or little lie. Yes a lie is a lie, but the punishment and outrage is different depending on the content of that lie.
1. I made my bed (when it wasn't)
or
2. I didn't hit my sister (when you did)

tthompson
Jun 21, 2012 at 3:55 p.m.
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Before you go, you should at least acknowledge that I did not or ever would condone someone altering footage and relaying it as news, as you claimed I did earlier, and as you just did. If one of my kids tells me a little lie they will be in just as much trouble as if they tell me a bigger lie. That logic shouldn't change for adults.

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 3:49 p.m.
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T - :) - I'll leaving you with the last word because I'm extremely bored of being in this round-about with you.
The content does matter. When you say it doesn't tells me FOX's incorrect footage is not nearly as offensive as intentionally slandering a person's character. That's it. You may have the last word.

tthompson
Jun 21, 2012 at 3:33 p.m.
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Is your disappointment in me what's dictating the repeated use of my full name instead of the usual T?? I'm aware of who you are talking to.

One more time Kay, I DO NOT CARE THE CONTENT OF A DOCTORED VIDEO, there is no place for it on a news channel and it is a FACT that Fox News has doctored video. Of course you think MSNBC lies to it's viewers, they probably do. What do you think the 10% on the extreme left think Fox News does??

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 3:22 p.m.
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But see Tim Thompson, Fox hasn't done the same thing, intentionally faked Obama tape to laugh at or degrade him. They apologize for incorrect footage that the liberals go crazy over by never intentionally doctor.
MSNBC has time and time again lied to the viewers. I do watch it now and again so I get to see what they say and go to Fox to see what they say.
My conclusion is I actually like Morning Joe. I actually find Maddow is correct on many points. I think Hannity is over the top and I think Ed Schultz, Al Sharpen and Lawrence O-something (admitted socialist, can't think of his last name) are on another planet.
I find MSNBC shields real news from their viewers and twists a lot of the truth. I go to FOX to get the real news. I visit many sites and listen to Rush when I can.
I'm really rather very tired of explaining this to you.
You called Romney a tax cheat and we argue over my news is better then your news.
You don't get it, I understand. I'm not allowed to have a different opinion, GOD forbid or I'm ignorant. I get that from liberals all the time. I expected you to have a more controlled view point. My apologies.
Always first a liberal.

tthompson
Jun 21, 2012 at 2:52 p.m.
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Kay: For some reason you are using every convo you've had, or everything anyone you consider 'liberal' has posted and using it in OUR conversation. I'm not denying the Fox news viewers are 2-1, I also could give a rats behind. I'm not even blasting Fox news. I'm blasting you for belittling the MSNBC viewers for merely watching a doctored video when Fox news has done the exact same thing. I don't care the content or subject of a doctored video. Doctoring a video and relaying it as news is immoral and should be illegal.

I'm not calling you ignorant Kay, but your quote was

'Thank you T for the morning laugh of condoning Andrea Mitchell’s loathsome doctored video by blaming FOX News which has not done the same to Barak Obama'

That is not even close to the point I was making and I know you are an intelligent human being so I really don't think you mis-understood my point, but rather tweaked my point in your own mind to make me look bad and/or yourself look right. Either way totally misconstruing someones point/post to solidify yours borders on ignorance and I would tell my beautiful mother the same thing.

'I point out the way I do because it's the liberals that consistantly think they are better and resort to name calling with they've lost'

In case you haven't noticed there are just as many conservatives who do the same thing. No party or lifestlye belief is immune from that 10% who create the stereotypes. NONE.

Bigmike
Jun 21, 2012 at 2:12 p.m.
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I always wonder if people would actually post some of this stuff if they had to use their real name. Wow.

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 2:06 p.m.
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Bill Maher and liberals like him are gravely threatened by a black conservative willing to stand up to their reckless agenda.

This week, Obama’s million-dollar Super PAC donor and “comedian” Bill Maher leveled racial smears against Allen West and the “Party of the Apes.”

Just another reason why I am not a liberal.

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 1:54 p.m.
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Not better, different Tim Thompson. I point out the way I do because it's the liberals that consistantly think they are better and resort to name calling with they've lost. FOX news again speaks for itself in viewership and it's became an extremely pointless arguement. More Americans 2-1 trust FOX..period. They make mistakes (sure) but have never intentionally faked Obama tape to laugh at or degrade him.
The regurgitated rhetoric as you call it are facts to be repeated. I wouldn't want to be accused of doctoring the truth. I know how it hurts the liberals to hear the truth. Many can't handle it and say "I'm bordering on ignorance". It's a liberal's enduring rudeness that follows when I know I'm spot on with my comments.

tthompson
Jun 21, 2012 at 1:25 p.m.
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Yer cracking me up here kay. Seriously. Please show me where I called you a name?? You do often say how you love liberals but only to use them as an example of how you think your judgemental thoughts are better than theirs. You haven't stated in writing you despise the left, but PUHHHLEASE. Re-read some of your own posts and you will understand. My posts have ranged to the extreme left?? Now you are just making things up. Find me one. I would actually LOVE LOVE LOVE for you to find me one. How come last week I was the voice of reason?? Does my voice of reason hinder on whether you agree with me??

You blast viewers of MSNBC when Fox News does the EXACT SAME THING and when I point that out I lose all credibility with you?? Wow.

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 12:37 p.m.
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I expected the Gazette to hold their bloggers in higher standard Tim Thompson.
Thanks for the name calling. A new low for you.
My ideology is and always has been out in the open. But you have gone back and forth from far left to left/moderate in your posts. This line of entries falls into the liberals category and it’s a shame you’ve resorted to the typical name calling.

I never once anywhere on this site said I despise the left.
I have often said I love liberals. It makes me appreciate and thankful everyday I'm Conservative. Everytime I see a women hold up a knitted uterus on the Capitol steps or see a threatening letter sent to Union Grove businesses and Zombies steal the shining moment from Special Olympics kids. I'm greatful for an alternative and the majority in the great state of Wisconsin.

LibertyBelle
Jun 21, 2012 at 12:18 p.m.
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Good thing we had a recall to settle these issues and come together.

wiggle
Jun 21, 2012 at 10:54 a.m.
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vatoloco
Jun 20, 2012 at 12:49 p.m.
"she is slowly discovering the filth and slime liberals preach......"
You mean like what comes out of your mouth and gets 'removed' repeatedly?
"in the recall election, she voted against Barrett simply because of how they trashed Diane Hendricks in the name of public sector unions....."
You mean how your trash talk gets 'removed' repeatedly?
"she used to be a Democrat......"
You in your other posts say "Democrap", so in your mind your wife was - in YOUR words "crap",
Hummm If she voted repub just because the demo's trash talked why does she not feel the same about you?

tthompson
Jun 21, 2012 at 8:27 a.m.
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'Thank you T for the morning laugh of condoning Andrea Mitchell’s loathsome doctored video by blaming FOX News which has not done the same to Barak Obama'

You are bordering on ignorance here Kay. I am not even close to condoning her actions. I am specifically talking about YOUR actions. Its laughable that you insult the rational thought of anyone who watches MSNBC because the station doctored a video. Yet, it is a FACT that Fox news has done the same thing and you don't think that compares. Where is the rational thought in that?? For the record, I don't think that a viewer of either channel can be judged based on what the station does. You sound like an elitist. I don't watch either channel and to me, and if you were defending MSNBC because Fox did it, I'd be pointing out your lack of intelligence as well.

'I have read your posts and it stands as the left wing rhetoric gets repeated, like most of their lies in hopes the ill-informed continue to remain that way'

That's funny. Just last week you said I was always the voice of reason or something like that. Please, copy/paste anyone of my comments that sounds like regurgitated left wing rhetoric. I PROMISE for every one you may find in my posts, I can find 10 in yours.

The good news is that I am not disappointed in you. You are and always have been to the right, exactly what you despise of the left.

jcommon
Jun 20, 2012 at 12:24 p.m.
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Does he think the American people are so stupid that they would buy into this?

YES HE DOES and look at all these people that prove him right.

916WI
Jun 20, 2012 at 12:20 p.m.
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It makes no sense.......Obama asserts executive privilege over documents he claims to have never seen which cover an operation he said he didn't know existed.......Does he think the American people are so stupid that they would buy into this? The only thing I can think of is that there has to be something so damning in those documents for him to take a risk such as this........

916WI
Jun 20, 2012 at 11:34 a.m.
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"I'll make our government open and transparent so that anyone can ensure that our business is the people's business," President Obama stated in 2008 campaign speech. "No more secrecy. That is a commitment that I make to you as president."
Yet another lie in what has become a long line of them told by our current president........It's unfortunate that this is becoming his legacy.......

kaysbrew
Jun 20, 2012 at 10:19 a.m.
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HAHA - they are literally saying it's Bush's fault. I kid you not!! And it's political.

The President can not use the Executive Priviledge unless he was involved which Holder has already sworn under oath was not the case.

kaysbrew
Jun 20, 2012 at 9:33 a.m.
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Right! All we heard was John Doe over some stupids campaign emails from liberals that they obviously have nothing on Walker after all this time.
No one ever got killed and now this extremely lawless totalitarianism of the Obama administration is unforgivable. Executive Privilege smells of major impreachable cover-up.

Ezoner
Jun 20, 2012 at 8:05 a.m.
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Dems will chase after imaginary tax return problems , but want to totally ignore the presidents birth cirtificate.

Just saying -- his Own words, his own biography stated he was born in Kenya, for over 15 years, then changed just before he ran for president. Just makes people go Hmmmmmmm. Whats that all about.

kaysbrew
Jun 20, 2012 at 5:40 a.m.
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Thank you T for the morning laugh of condoning Andrea Mitchell’s loathsome doctored video by blaming FOX News which has not done the same to Barak Obama. But FOX News does not need me to defend them. Their viewership is more than MSNBC and CNN combined program after program. That says it all when independents view them as the most trusted news source.
I have read your posts and it stands as the left wing rhetoric gets repeated, like most of their lies in hopes the ill-informed continue to remain that way. It’s the same as all the mud they tried to sling at Walker hoping something would stick to the wall. As of now, nothing is working for them with Romney so they start making it up.

RetiredAirForce
Jun 20, 2012 at 3:04 a.m.
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Yes tax information that is the focus. Don't worry about things like the US attorney general not releasing documents pertaining to weapons that killed a border agent. There is a "chance" mitt the 1%er might have cheated on his taxes. Don't worry about the leaks of classified information from the current administration, defeats the purpose of how mitt might have cheated. After all real laws broken are pushed to the rear while others investigate "if" mitt might not have paid his taxes despite no crime just someone thinking there might be one; more of an issue than one that did occur. LOOK SQUIRREL ------>

tthompson
Jun 20, 2012 at 12:44 a.m.
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Midnight: I'm not saying its ok for either to do it. Im saying its not ok for a fox news viewer to criticise an msnbc viewer ability for rational thought any more than the msnbc viewer could do that to a fox news viewer. Fox. Does. The. Same. Thing.

westorbust
Jun 19, 2012 at 10:36 p.m.
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"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else."
Winston Churchill

cbrltr
Jun 19, 2012 at 8:27 p.m.
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Donna sometime back you stated
"woody would rather nit pick on Romney's investments ASSUMING they are illegal rather than focusing on the enormous failures of Obama's decisions that affect our everyday lives and those of our children and grandchildren."

So by stating these decisions will affect our children and Grandchildren You are saying that your Republicans wouldn't be able to FIX it in two generations?? OH RIGHT..and Obama should be able to correct the horrible catastrophe he was handed in less than 4 years.

Midnight_Ride
Jun 19, 2012 at 8:02 p.m.
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It will never seize to amaze me the left hypocrisy. He did it so I can do it. You did it but never mind that I do it.

tthompson
Jun 19, 2012 at 7:10 p.m.
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Right Kay. And if u were following along, as I know u were, then u should have realized the convo was already about potential unpaid taxes.

I know you post a lot, so I won't ask u for a direct quote, but could u tell me what you may have said about fox news when they doctored video an called it news??

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 6:05 p.m.
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I know Wislady
It's really all they have when they've been one-upped.
The party of tolerance and compassion rears it's ugly head again.

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 6:03 p.m.
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T-Jun 19, 2012 at 4:41 p.m.
I'm sure the IRS would be all over them too, if they knew about them.
This statement speaks for itself as an accusation.
And yes, the liberal bias media have thrown everything from Bain to bully. Nothing is sticking and I use the term desperation loosely because what's happening now is a full blown panic. To doctor video? That's good stuff.
October surprises are always a possibility. But will it be on Romney or Obama?

wislady
Jun 19, 2012 at 6 p.m.
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kaysbrew

Never mind yada(yadamouse), it seems since Governor Walker won the election AGAIN, it is almost more than yada can bear. Abuse, name calling, and bullying are the responses of someone who is truly desperate.

tthompson
Jun 19, 2012 at 5:47 p.m.
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Ha. I disappoint you?? Welcome to the club;)

'Everything that can be discovered has been discovered about Romney'

Pretty confident statement to make about someone you have never met. I'm by no means saying Mitt owes taxes, I was merely pointing out to notlibertybelle that the IRS would absolutely be on him if he owed taxes...that they knew of. Would you really be shocked to find out that Mitt may have cheated on his taxes at some point?? Would you be just as shocked to find out he's not the first 1%'r to do so??

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 5:21 p.m.
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You disappoint me T. Nothing to hide from the IRS? Everything that can be discovered has been discovered about Romney. They have been reduced to video edits of misinformation.

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 5:17 p.m.
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yadamouse
There is no cause for such verbal abuse. I understand stories that state facts that adults bully down children is tough for you but you've been a part of it for 16 months here. I'm very happy on the other hand to see those kids stand stead fast and chant USA in the face of these "grown ups". Take a lesson from them mouse, not the bully

yada
Jun 19, 2012 at 5:09 p.m.
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KAYSBREW.."bully children" - Get some help please. There are many fine clinics where you can get help dealing with reality. I know that seeing a psychiatrist might be intimidating and produce even more anxiety for you, but it's your future I am concerned about.

yada
Jun 19, 2012 at 5 p.m.
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The Lies of LIBERTYBELLE are a PERFECT example of LIES. Thank you for sharing your comical fabricated story. Ding Dong...

tthompson
Jun 19, 2012 at 4:41 p.m.
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I'm sure the IRS would be all over them too, if they knew about them.

LibertyBelle
Jun 19, 2012 at 4:24 p.m.
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tthompson, I'm sure the IRS would be all over due taxes. This is yet another silly distraction from the left to keep your eye of the economy. The complete vetting of Romney has been done and they just haven't been able to come up with anything except a made up fight with a blond kid that was exposed as false. That blew up in their face not vetting the Pres to know he admitting beating a girl. Oh the irony of it all.

tthompson
Jun 19, 2012 at 4:22 p.m.
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Right on Donna. I'm confident you wouldn't even care if it was possible that Obama had investments he didn't pay proper taxes on, right??

LibertyBelle
Jun 19, 2012 at 4:20 p.m.
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woody, How would you like to find out why Pres. Obama considered himself Kenyon Born up to 2007 but then buried by the media. Is there a difference between someone's income record vs. a complete non-vetting of the Pres of the United States. I'd like to see the college years.
The autobiographer said this week Obama made up items like his basketball years and ex girlfriends.
If a man lies about something so trival as basketball, what lengths will he go to to lie about everything else?

donnaw
Jun 19, 2012 at 4:16 p.m.
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woody would rather nit pick on Romney's investments ASSUMING they are illegal rather than focusing on the enormous failures of Obama's decisions that affect our everyday lives and those of our children and grandchildren.

tthompson
Jun 19, 2012 at 4:15 p.m.
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'Obama refuses to show his college transcripts, so what's the difference?'

You don't really need someone to explain the difference between college transcripts and proving you've paid due taxes, do you??

woody
Jun 19, 2012 at 3:52 p.m.
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Romney was also required to file a financial disclosure form, less detailed than taxes, when he filed for president. In fact, he argued that he should have to release his taxes because the disclosure form showed everything important. But 23 different investment funds shown on his taxes did not appear on his disclosure form -- and 11 of those are in those overseas, secret banking centers. That's a sign of what he's embarrassed to reveal -- and it's also a felony, if the government can prove it was deliberate and not just a sloppy oversight.

woody
Jun 19, 2012 at 3:47 p.m.
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This is the difference!
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The biggest concern is that Swiss bank account, one of the items not on his financial disclosure. Mitt had it from 2003 to 2010, when his adviser shut it down. He closed it in the middle of an amnesty that the IRS had declared for owners of previously unreported Swiss bank accounts -- if they came clean, they would not face criminal prosecution for not reporting it in previous years (which was illegal - plus most weren't paying taxes on that money). Was the sudden shutdown of Romney's secret Swiss bank account part of this amnesty program? We can't know unless and until he releases prior returns, like his dad who released 12 years of prior returns. And Mitt is still fiercely refusing to do so.

woody
Jun 19, 2012 at 3:44 p.m.
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Why are the repubs going after the middle class and drag them down? Because it will be more money for the 1%.

Bowlgal
Jun 19, 2012 at 3:42 p.m.
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Obama refuses to show his college transcripts, so what's the difference?

woody
Jun 19, 2012 at 3:40 p.m.
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Fair share is a rate closer to what the middle class pays. There must be some giant skeletons in Romney's closet because he refuses to show his tax statements.

Bowlgal
Jun 19, 2012 at 3:36 p.m.
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Why is the left side always asking people to come down? I never hear they want to bring people up. I hear pay more upper class so the lower class is content to stay where they are. Get up lower class and do something about your situation. Fight for your self respect and dignity.

whz_bng
Jun 19, 2012 at 3:35 p.m.
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Woody, the top 5% of earners already pay 70% of the taxes while the 50% bottom dwellers pay none. I think that is fair enough. Obama has just been named the biggest spender in the whole WORLD. He gave us stimulus, bailouts, extended UC benefits,obamacare and failed green tech companies to earn this title. With all that spending we should be living in an utopian society by now. When can you admit he is a failure?

Bigmike
Jun 19, 2012 at 3:33 p.m.
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14.8% is nowhere close to fair. For personal income tax use a flat tax with no deductions, no loopholes, no hiding money in swiss bank accounts, and no tax refunds. And this could be adapted based on income. People who are under the poverty line might have a bit less of a tax rate and millionaires and billionaires might have a bit higher flat tax rate. 14.8% is not fair. It will be interesting to see his tax returns when and if he ever releases them.

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 3:06 p.m.
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woody
I love that tired liberal "fair" buzz word. And what is "fair" in your opinion?

woody
Jun 19, 2012 at 3 p.m.
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What I would like is for Romney to "Pay his share"

studs
Jun 19, 2012 at 2:57 p.m.
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Wow, just wow!

donnaw
Jun 19, 2012 at 2:54 p.m.
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Woody...sounds like you would be happy in a communist country...try one.

dkush21
Jun 19, 2012 at 2:51 p.m.
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WalterReuther: I like your comment about the 4 horsemen!

woody
Jun 19, 2012 at 2:35 p.m.
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“How in the world do you, Mitt Romney, justify making more in one day than the median American family makes in a year while paying the effective tax rate of the guy who has to scan your shoes in the airport?”

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 2:06 p.m.
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Paul Ryan isn't the politican that has promised unemployment below 8% for the last 46 months. Is that treason? To continue to break a promise to the American people?
Is it treason to bully children by left wing adults? From the party of "compassion" yea right!

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 2:03 p.m.
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YKM - still waiting on those facts or even sources and I'll look myself since you seem reluctant to do that. Give me a non-basement blog link. Of course we've seen that we can't even trust formal journalist Andrea Mitchell.

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 2:01 p.m.
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yadamouse, I agree. He was dealing with David Duke Democrat hooded dead enders. The party that still never got over losing the Civil war or as in your case the recall.

yada
Jun 19, 2012 at 1:41 p.m.
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For...KAYSBREW --- Martin Luther King, Jr. was speaking about you when he said... - "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -

youkillme
Jun 19, 2012 at 1:34 p.m.
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kaysbrew, I posted what are considered indisputable facts about Paul Ryan, Luntz and a cabal plotting to take down the economy and presidency. What you posted is an act of desperation and "devils music" saxcat described.

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 1:31 p.m.
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yadamouse, you still can't tell me what book from the bible Jesus was born - you look pathetic.
Pick one alias to post under and stick with it okay?

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 1:29 p.m.
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ykm
if leaking government secrets and allowing the killing of American citizens is not treason what has Ryan done other then purpose budgets and plans to save treasured welfare programs? While Reid hasn't produced either? By your post, Reid should then be convicted of treason.

saxcat70
Jun 19, 2012 at 1:12 p.m.
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"When rock and roll first came around the preachers all went crazy
But soon that wasn't enough to bring people in the door
So now they jump on any scandal that they can to try and save me
'Cause they know I don't buy that crap about the Devil's music anymore
democrats.....that's what scares people these days.....that...and.....republicans" Todd Snider

yada
Jun 19, 2012 at 1:06 p.m.
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Joseph Smith (Founder) = FALSE PROPHET & Mormons = CULT
It you are a Christian and you are supporting a cult which they are - Must be tough to live with yourself.
http://www.godvoter.org/joseph-smith-fal...

http://carm.org/false-prophecies-of-jose...

dtb
Jun 19, 2012 at 1:04 p.m.
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kay, check Article III, section 3 of your constitution.

dtb
Jun 19, 2012 at 1:02 p.m.
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bigmike, 30%?????????

Divide your total tax (line 61) by your total income (line 22) and tell me what you get. If that number is 30% (.30) you either need a better accountant or you're not middle class.

Zoom
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:59 p.m.
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youkillme, to be fair, a minimum 100 of the attendees at the rally were Monterey Mills empoyees with nowhere else to go. That leaves 500-600 supporters who came to see their future leader Romney, at his ONLY Wisconsin visit, and the GOP saviors Ryan and Walker. Not impressive.

youkillme
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:58 p.m.
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kaysbrew, no

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:54 p.m.
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Isn't treason when you live outside the Constitution? Leaking American secrets and giving weapons used to kill Americans?

youkillme
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:53 p.m.
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The facts are that Fox Cable News hack Luntz, Paul Ryan and an evil cabal of anti-Americans plotted to destroy the U.S. economy and the Obama presidency on the day of his inaurguration. They should all be arrested for treason.

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:53 p.m.
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http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top...

Adults bully children for patriotic singing.
youkillme
Way outside American values is where you live and have been rejected...
twice. 3 if you count the Supreme Court race

youkillme
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kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:48 p.m.
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I love this stuff from MSNBC. It's an indicator that they know Obama is in trouble. As in Wisconsin the past 16 months they try to tell us what is not so. Then we prove them wrong and it brings attention to their desperation. Facts are always a liberals worst enemy.

Bigmike
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:41 p.m.
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The vast majority of righties are willfully ignorant: they purposesly deny things because they know if they accept certain self-evident truths, their entire worldview will come crashing down.

This results in rampant (and shameless)hypocrisy. I often end my posts with the saying "being a Republican means never having to say you're sorry!" for that very reason.

Name calling is so easy.

youkillme
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:40 p.m.
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The real story is that there were 600 hateful people protesting Pres. Barack Obama at a Janesville business and 60 supporters of truth, justice, equality and the American way outside.

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:40 p.m.
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You can't compare FOX to MSNBC. One (FOX) has viewers and MSNBC doesn't not.

Now she says "they didn't have time to play the whole clip" they had time to lie about Bush and they had time to laugh after.
Desperate - viewers won't care. They are loyalist to the cause of mis-information.

NoLeftist
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:25 p.m.
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The vast majority of lefties are willfully ignorant: they purposesly deny things because they know if they accept certain self-evident truths, their entire worldview will come crashing down.

This results in rampant (and shameless)hypocrisy. I often end my posts with the saying "being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry!" for that very reason.

Zoom
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:21 p.m.
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MSNBC tag line: Lean Forward
Fox News tag line: Fair and Balanced

Easy to see who's more truthful.

Zoom
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:18 p.m.
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Note that Fox News peddles their propaganda 24/7. MSNBC does not. Lots of vacuous talking heads on good ol' Faux News.

tthompson
Jun 19, 2012 at 11:59 a.m.
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'It's amazing that MSNBC is still allowed on television. More doctored video for the empty headed to view as real. They cater to the mindless don't they.'

Yes. I believe they have the EXACT same mojo as Fox News. Don't be blind.

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 11:41 a.m.
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Plus Andrea Mitchell still continued the lie about George HW Bush. He was shown brand new state of the art scanner technology for it's day and the left wing media, like with Regan bias and edit and lie to the public because liberals in Washington want you to remain stupid, uninformed and they themselves out of touch. It's desperate out there for them. Even Sam Donaldson calling Obama opposition racist. It's Desperate!

donnaw
Jun 19, 2012 at 11:24 a.m.
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Liberty...thanks for the link...not surprising, tho, the liberal media has been, especially MSNBC, such biased cheerleaders for Obama. They should take the word "news" out of their name. Andrea Mitchell should have her journalism degree recalled.

Shrek
Jun 19, 2012 at 11:13 a.m.
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I have to laugh at the lefties that comment on here. The claim to be intellectually superior to everyone else, but they cannot grasp simple economics and have almost no ability to reason using simple logic. It seems as though they refuse to do any research on issues because they already know everything. I would guess that these are the same people that would protest at a candidates speech and try to drown out the message rather than listen to the message and try to understand it.

saxcat70
Jun 19, 2012 at 10:55 a.m.
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yada gurgled...."Do your HOMEWORK - Mormons are a CULT"...isn't every organized religion a cult? every sports team fan base? how about being a democrat? or a republican?....cult [kuhlt]
noun
1.
a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2.
an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
3.
the object of such devotion.
4.
a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
5.
Sociology . a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.
Homework done. Can I go out and play now?

baegucb
Jun 19, 2012 at 10:48 a.m.
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Mitt Romney gave 23 years of income tax returns to John McCain, when he was being considered as a VP 3.5 years ago. Now he won't release them to the public. Sorta makes you wonder what McCain saw there. so that he chose Sarah Palin instead.

LibertyBelle
Jun 19, 2012 at 10:43 a.m.
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Pipe down carlitosway, Obama is in over his head and the desperation coming out of the left is proof enough they know trouble is in their forcast for November.
As far as Diane is concerned, what have you done for the community and the economy?

carlitosway
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LibertyBelle
Jun 19, 2012 at 10:19 a.m.
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http://www.therightscoop.com/msnbc-caugh...

It's amazing that MSNBC is still allowed on television. More doctored video for the empty headed to view as real. They cater to the mindless don't they.

greatplain
Jun 19, 2012 at 9:51 a.m.
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I am glad that Romney supporters are fired up here. Mitt Romney will lose Rock County and Wisconsin anyway.

NoLeftist
Jun 19, 2012 at 9:43 a.m.
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"Why do regular WI folks think they relate to this guy?"

Because regular WI folks are not on the dole and are not brainless idiots.

Bigmike
Jun 19, 2012 at 9:41 a.m.
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So, to me, it appears that what the goal would be is that we expand the middle class as big as we can get it. Each person's share will go down and that makes them happy. At the same time, because we have more middle class, we can cut the corporate tax rate and the rate for the super wealthy. Then they are happy too.
Now everyone is happy, right? Even though the middle class once again is asked to carry the burden. It is not right.

usaret
Jun 19, 2012 at 9:38 a.m.
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The Left cares only about the Left. No body elses opinions count especially if they are different then the Lefts. They have all the answers and are insulted if no one askes them the question. The use snide remarks, insult the intelligence of others and then wonder why no one likes them. They want compromise as long as they get their way. They want things to stay they same and yet complain because they can't get ahead. They believe the only answer is taking others money but giving up little or none of their own. They blame others for doing the same thing they do. They don't understand that the Democrats have rich people that buy elections for politicians favors. They ignore that fact. You don't like my opinion, tough. You call me simple minded for my beliefs, well, at least I have a mind what's your excuse?

Bigmike
Jun 19, 2012 at 9:01 a.m.
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I don't think it is reasonable to ask corporations and the super wealthy to pay their fair share. I think Romney said in 2011 his tax rate wound up at 15.4%. I am middle class and my wife and I were over 30%. Everyone should pay their share. And by giving tax breaks to businesses just makes the rich get richer. Even if some jobs are created all it does is make the middle class bigger, which reduces each middle class person's burden. But it is still the middle class who pays.

whz_bng
Jun 19, 2012 at 8:59 a.m.
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My neighbor has a car elevator, So what?

whz_bng
Jun 19, 2012 at 8:49 a.m.
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Stella Cane,the protester, pictured in the gazette as the mourner dressed in black said,She has to make decisions between groceries, gas and meds. Looks like groceries won. Why blame Romney for a lack of jobs when Obama has been the prez for the last three and a half years.

garyprimer
Jun 19, 2012 at 8:44 a.m.
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May I have your attention please,
may I have your attention please,
Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up,
I repeat will the real Mitt Romney please stand up...
we're gonna have a problem here...

Bowlgal
Jun 19, 2012 at 8:42 a.m.
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It is very exciting to have so many great Americans in one location. The Recall proved one thing about people looking for leaders to get our fiscal house in order. Wisconsin last went for a bold conservative. I'm not saying that is Romney, but with the help of Ron Johnson and Scott Walker, he could be.

criticaleye
Jun 19, 2012 at 8:31 a.m.
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Not one mention of labor, workers, GM, public services or his car elevator. Why do regular WI folks think they relate to this guy?

woody
Jun 19, 2012 at 8:07 a.m.
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The biggest concern is that Swiss bank account, one of the items not on his financial disclosure. Mitt had it from 2003 to 2010, when his adviser shut it down. He closed it in the middle of an amnesty that the IRS had declared for owners of previously unreported Swiss bank accounts -- if they came clean, they would not face criminal prosecution for not reporting it in previous years (which was illegal - plus most weren't paying taxes on that money). Was the sudden shutdown of Romney's secret Swiss bank account part of this amnesty program? We can't know unless and until he releases prior returns, like his dad who released 12 years of prior returns. And Mitt is still fiercely refusing to do so.

woody
Jun 19, 2012 at 7:56 a.m.
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Romney: ""I know what it’s like to worry whether you’re going to get fired,. There were a couple of times I wondered whether I was going to get a pink slip." But, pressed by reporters, he couldn't name any such time.

woody
Jun 19, 2012 at 7:52 a.m.
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"Buenos dias!" -- Mitt Romney's regular greeting to the illegal Guatemalan immigrants who work on his lawn

916WI
Jun 19, 2012 at 6:44 a.m.
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nugnrose.......So I take it you were wowed by Romney then??:)

916WI
Jun 19, 2012 at 6:43 a.m.
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yada....It wasn't my comment--I honestly don't know anything about Monterey Mills business to comment one way or the other, but thanks for the support:)
Why would the owner of ABC have lost credibility for her pro-worker stand? She help build a multi-billion dollar company with record high employee satisfaction/retention levels, with no sign of a labor union anywhere.......If anything, her history gives her a large amount of credibility.......
The mormon comment is funny. I would have agreed with you before having close friends who are followers of that religion. I still joke with them about their "cult" while also including comments about animal sacrifice and wearing black robes while chanting under the full moon. Honestly though, they are great people, highly educated, incredibly giving and compassionate--much more so that self-described Christians as myself:) I would never hold any religion against a candidate to begin with. It's not important enough to me as a defining factor of what makes a person who they are........

nugnrose
Jun 19, 2012 at 6:22 a.m.
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Correct Headline:
Romney wows the simple minded in Janesville.

yada
Jun 19, 2012 at 6:18 a.m.
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916 - You may be surprised - but guess what - I AGREE WITH YOU(at least part of it.) :-). Your comment on MM and ther hiring practices / temp. workers are correct. Regarding the ABC location - it may look nice, but the "RED STATE" comments from the lady at ABC has destroyed any credibility she may have had. Regarding Romney - if you area Christian and you support him - shame on you. Do your HOMEWORK - Mormons are a CULT. Republicans and especially those claiming to be Christians that have accepted Christ as their Lord and savior should not be supporting Romney. If you are supporting Romney I guess that being a Republican is more important than your born again personal relationship. BOSTON BILL - GREAT COMMENT --> Those THREE do look like the THREE STOOGES...That was funny....lol But you forgot RON...he would be Shemp.

http://mormoncult.org/

http://www.godvoter.org/mormonism-cult.h...

916WI
Jun 19, 2012 at 5:43 a.m.
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"I find it simply amazing that Romney chose a place that has been seeking temporary workers for at least the last 7 years. Failing to fill their ranks with the best employees in the county. Maybe this is Romney's vision of the jobs America needs."
+1 haeight......they should have scheduled this one at the ABC Supply national HQ in Beloit. A beautiful facility and with all of the awards that company has won for employee satisfaction/engagement as well as the history behind it's growth and the success resulting from it, it would have been a great backdrop for Romney's visit. It would have been fun watching the liberals heads explode too.....we all know how they love the person that owns that company:)

4loughs
Jun 19, 2012 at 5:22 a.m.
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Didn't MM invent/develop a special oil absorbant fabric to help clean up the gulf oil spill? Did they unveil a new product yesterday to absorb an overflow of tears from whining from one side and to collect BS from the other side all at the same time???!!!!!!! That would be a moneymaker.

kaysbrew
Jun 19, 2012 at 5:05 a.m.
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ddr
Jun 18, 2012 at 5:20 p.m.
Not only doesnt DH pay taxes, she dont want to pay her employees either.

What is the average pay?
Has she hid her yacht yet? Oh yet, that was the democrats who don't like to re-intestest in real jobs and community. Just store stuff in them.

baegucb
Jun 19, 2012 at 4:42 a.m.
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RAF: don't be stupid. Their choice was lose their job, or be a supporter. I saw that back in the 80s. They lose their job for not acting for what the boss supports. So how much are you being paid for you comments here?

RetiredAirForce
Jun 19, 2012 at 4:31 a.m.
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baegucb since when are people forced to work anywhere in this country?

saxcat70
Jun 19, 2012 at 4:21 a.m.
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What a wonderful thing for Janesville. National spotlight is a golden egg. Let's all hope this can snowball into something wonderful for our city!

baegucb
Jun 19, 2012 at 3:59 a.m.
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RAF: on the internet, everyone can pretend to be anything. So why do you pretend to be stupid? Any worker there has to keep their boss happy, no matter what they think.

RetiredAirForce
Jun 19, 2012 at 1:05 a.m.
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"as apposed to the poor folks in the factory."
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They were forced?

Zoom
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:54 a.m.
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"How many of the 60 protesters where union retireees or goons?"

Nobody forced the protestors to show up in the street, as apposed to the poor folks in the factory.

Haeight
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:32 a.m.
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I find it simply amazing that Romney chose a place that has been seeking temporary workers for at least the last 7 years. Failing to fill their ranks with the best employees in the county. Maybe this is Romney's vision of the jobs America needs.

dtb
Jun 19, 2012 at 12:08 a.m.
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"I found it very interesting that our local boy Paul did not introduce Romney for his speech...
Instead he was upstaged by Walker doing the introduction !"

Legal defense fund trumps House Rep.

onelife2live
Jun 18, 2012 at 11:09 p.m.
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How many of the 60 protesters where union retireees or goons? Same thing the UAW did to us at GM. Please be there, Gov Doyle is for us...laughing all the time. Peace

Zoom
Jun 18, 2012 at 10:57 p.m.
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Three Saviors of the Republican Party were in one place, including their Presidential nominee, and only 700 people showed up? How positively...underwhelming.

How many of that 700 were captive Monterey Mills employees?

Kimmmm
Jun 18, 2012 at 9:39 p.m.
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Walker signed an executive order right before the election directing the DNR to take the green agenda up a notch in the form of Green Tier. THAT'S your golden boy, GOP. Aren't the Republicans supposed to be the counterpoint to the global warming fanatics? So why is Walker supporting Agenda 21?

wislady
Jun 18, 2012 at 9:27 p.m.
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Tomorrow, all the anti Walker/Romney/Ryan/Johnson people can go and protest with the Rogue nuns. That will be a sight worth seeing.

onelife2live
Jun 18, 2012 at 9:05 p.m.
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the crowd...The Gazette should have said over 600 people were in attendance...vs the 60 people they counted at "the protest". C'mon people, 60 vs over 600. This union town better wake up and see the future. Unions are as corrupt as any big business I have seen. Ask Jimmy Hoffa when you find him. Peace

factsplease
Jun 18, 2012 at 9:03 p.m.
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donnaw on the tub run article:
"Too bad some of the whiners complaining about Romney's visit don't do something worthwhile like this instead of their jealous diatribes! What a bunch of cry babies! Just think how much good these people did for muscular dystrophy."
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The perfect example of what is wrong with hyper-partisans. She assumes that anyone who disagrees with her politically is evil and incapable of good deeds.
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Hopefully she checked back to see this response. "Donnaw....I was one of the riders.....and also a so called whiner!"

hdonlybob
Jun 18, 2012 at 9:02 p.m.
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I found it very interesting that our local boy Paul did not introduce Romney for his speech...
Instead he was upstaged by Walker doing the introduction ! :-)
Hmmm........

packolies
Jun 18, 2012 at 8:53 p.m.
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is diane hendricks the new romney girl. the video should be funny

Donegeal
Jun 18, 2012 at 8:49 p.m.
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Walker for VP!!!

WalterReuther
Jun 18, 2012 at 8:36 p.m.
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The only thing that photo is missing is Diane Hendricks aka the fourth horseman.
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"I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest."
Sounds like Willard to me.
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"Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a large sword."
I think our special little boy Scottie's got this one.
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"I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, 'A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!'"
I'm pretty sure this is actually part of the Ryan budget.
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"I looked and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth."
The one pulling all the strings just like Mrs. Hendricks.

TheJoker
Jun 18, 2012 at 8:33 p.m.
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Does this mean GM is coming back to Janesville?!

wislady
Jun 18, 2012 at 8:12 p.m.
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What part about winning an election twice don't people understand?

The people of Wisconsin have spoken.

DrTalk
Jun 18, 2012 at 8:12 p.m.
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MooShoo,
Do you resent the government redistributing money from the poor to the middle class and the wealthy - i.e. the state lottery?

kidsfirst
Jun 18, 2012 at 7:51 p.m.
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donnow -- look at how many more months of planning and how many dollars more to spend that Walker had . . . how would he have faired in a level playing field??

kidsfirst
Jun 18, 2012 at 7:48 p.m.
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They make me sick to my stomach -- only thing worse than these three are the "wealthy wanna' be's" who think that if they support theses cats, they can join them. . . wislady, you are one major "wanna be."

Cynicalvoter
Jun 18, 2012 at 7:26 p.m.
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916WI, oops, my bad. Sorry

Cynicalvoter
Jun 18, 2012 at 7:26 p.m.
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916WI, oops, my bad. Sorry

packolies
Jun 18, 2012 at 7:21 p.m.
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she wouldnt give the bag lady the time of day.. and didn't I just hear these clowns did a movie together. the three stooges..

916WI
Jun 18, 2012 at 7:01 p.m.
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Cynicalvoter.....You are probably thinking about someone else because you're completely wrong. The Hendrickses were married in the early 70's, ABC wasn't founded until 1982. She has been heavily involved with the decision making in that company since it's inception.......

cbrltr
Jun 18, 2012 at 7 p.m.
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Geez.. jealous 'not'.. Why would you catagorize all Democrats as LAZY ..just because we think everyone, including the 1% should pay their fair share?

donnaw
Jun 18, 2012 at 6:52 p.m.
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Such a bunch of whining, lazy, jealous losers! Don't you hate it when some people are more successful in life than you are? Grow up! It's really funny, these same people have no problem with the wealthy democrats!

Cynicalvoter
Jun 18, 2012 at 6:36 p.m.
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Hey, wait a minute 916WI. Diane Hendricks did not start ABC, her husband did way before he even knew her. So get your facts straight. Also I know someone who worked for ABC. Even helped start a new business in the south and the pay he received was nothing.

fordfan
Jun 18, 2012 at 6:29 p.m.
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wislady
Jun 18, 2012 at 4:30 p.m.
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I hear that Paul Ryan cherishes his title of “The Biggest Brown-Noser”…..it appears that you are trying to take that away from him with your comments to DH.

poobah
Jun 18, 2012 at 6:24 p.m.
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wislady at 4:30 p.m.: "She was most gracious, and appreciated my comments."

wislady at 4:40 p.m.: (This comment was removed by the site staff.)

wislady at 6:14 p.m.: "I was proud to shake her hand."

Apparently, none of her graciousness rubbed off.

cbrltr
Jun 18, 2012 at 6:14 p.m.
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No 916 I can't compete with DH when her income is counted in the Billions...I'm just a poor working slob that pays taxes.

wislady
Jun 18, 2012 at 6:14 p.m.
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Diane Hendricks is a good person, I was proud to shake her hand.

You haters can continue to whine all you want, but it is jealousy and greed that drives some.

youkillme
Jun 18, 2012 at 6:11 p.m.
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Was Paul Ryan passing out books of Atlas Shrugged? Or does he only do that for Christmas.

wislady
Jun 18, 2012 at 6:09 p.m.
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garyprimer

What did I say that would make you say that?

BostonBill
Jun 18, 2012 at 6:02 p.m.
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Mt. Rushmore!!! Are you kidding? It's more like, Moe, Larry and Curly. Woo wooo wooo wooo woop woop!!!

donnaw
Jun 18, 2012 at 5:51 p.m.
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I love this picture! Three of my favorite people!

916WI
Jun 18, 2012 at 5:47 p.m.
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ddr......"she don't want to pay her employees either"?? Too funny! Ignorant and illiterate--obviously you don't know anyone that works at ABC Supply.......

garyprimer
Jun 18, 2012 at 5:46 p.m.
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Wislady, shame on you!
What a horribly racist and homophobic thing to say!

916WI
Jun 18, 2012 at 5:42 p.m.
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cbr.....Still so jealous regarding Hendricks......huh?? The company that she she started and has been building for decades will pay over a million dollars in state income taxes this year. If you're a business owner, would you please share with us how much you are contributing to Wisconsin's income tax base this year? possibly .001% of the amount her company is.......

hardin724
Jun 18, 2012 at 5:35 p.m.
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Prefers Romney's foreign policy? Romney's foreign policy team consists of the same people that brought us Iraq. He has stated that he wants a war with Iran. Will Michael Weber be sending his sons and daughters there to fight for us? Maybe he should go himself and be a hero.

ddr
Jun 18, 2012 at 5:20 p.m.
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Not only doesnt DH pay taxes, she dont want to pay her employees either.

youkillme
Jun 18, 2012 at 4:53 p.m.
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Is Scott Walker wearing an ankle bracelet yet?

wislady
Jun 18, 2012 at 4:40 p.m.
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cbrltr
Jun 18, 2012 at 4:38 p.m.
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How about asking her (DH) to do a little for the state of Wisconsin and pay some taxes like everybody else.

wislady
Jun 18, 2012 at 4:30 p.m.
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sarahmarden

Ok, by me.

By he way, I offered apologies to Diane Hendricks for all the horrible comments that have been made about her. I thanked her for everything she has done for people and especially, the City of Beloit. She was most gracious, and appreciated my comments, along with many others who approached her and thanked her for everything she has done to support the community.

thesignguy
Jun 18, 2012 at 4:19 p.m.
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Nice pic of dumb, dumber and dumbest !

saxcat70
Jun 18, 2012 at 3:26 p.m.
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"Crowd protests Romney appearance"
Blue jeans and sport coats have always been a little too yuppie for me too!

cbrltr
Jun 18, 2012 at 3:20 p.m.
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The clips I've seen of his speech are sickening..at one point I thought he was going to burst out in FAKE tears..feeling so bad for people hurting in this economy. ...yea right..build yourself another elevator!

honey33
Jun 18, 2012 at 3:04 p.m.
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Bull! Romney couldn't wow a rooster at a cock fight.

no
Jun 18, 2012 at 2:59 p.m.
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*Mitt Romney’s Magic Mormon Underwear protects...*

Wow, religious intolerance, repetitive spamming and blog-pimping/link-pandering all in one post that you repeatedly paste into every Romney article.

poobah
Jun 18, 2012 at 2:10 p.m.
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Let's see...you get Willard Mitt RMoney, Scott Walker, Paul Ryan, Ron Johnson and Reince Priebus in one place and "the hot, sticky air inside the factory" is guaranteed. Nothing but hot, sticky air.

JanesvilleNow
Jun 18, 2012 at 2:05 p.m.
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'Wow'

Mensch
Jun 18, 2012 at 12:55 p.m.
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Sarah
You beat me to it. Makes just about as much sense.

cbrltr
Jun 18, 2012 at 12:36 p.m.
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He should get an OSCAR for Best Actor....

sarahmarden
Jun 18, 2012 at 12:11 p.m.
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wislady: If corporations are people, why can't signs be people, too?

wislady
Jun 18, 2012 at 11:50 a.m.
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NOT 60 protesters, unless you counted the signs as people.

garyprimer
Jun 18, 2012 at 11:37 a.m.
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Did he tell any funny stories about GM?

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