Sisters' act: Nuns bring message to Janesville

By FRANK SCHULTZ ( Contact )   Wednesday, June 20, 2012
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The nuns wave to the crowd Tuesday after arriving in downtown Janesville on the Nuns on the Bus tour. The nuns disagree with the budget that Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Janesville, wrote, which was passed by the House.

The nuns wave to the crowd Tuesday after arriving in downtown Janesville on the Nuns on the Bus tour. The nuns disagree with the budget that Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Janesville, wrote, which was passed by the House.

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Patti Emerson of Janesville holds up a sign greeting the Nuns on the Bus tour that stopped in downtown Janesville on Tuesday.

Patti Emerson of Janesville holds up a sign greeting the Nuns on the Bus tour that stopped in downtown Janesville on Tuesday.

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A crowd of supporters outside Congressman Paul Ryan's office  greets the Nuns on the Bus tour as it arrives in downtown Janesville.

A crowd of supporters outside Congressman Paul Ryan's office greets the Nuns on the Bus tour as it arrives in downtown Janesville.

— The Nuns on the Bus and Rep. Paul Ryan have something in common: They agree the country must do something to fight poverty.

They just disagree about how.

The Nuns on the Bus is a tour traveling to nine states to protest the budget that Ryan wrote and the House passed May 10.

The tour began in Iowa on Sunday. It stopped in Ryan's hometown Tuesday.

The nuns object to the Ryan budget's cuts in social services.

"We cannot stand by silently when the U.S. Congress considers further enriching the wealthiest Americans at the expense of struggling, impoverished families," the nuns say on their website.

A crowd of about 140 people jammed the Main Street sidewalk in front of Ryan's office and cheered long and loudly as four nuns disembarked from their tour bus and crossed the street.

A gray-haired man enveloped Sister Simone Campbell in a bear hug.

"I'm in solidarity with the nuns against the Ryan budget and Republican policies of giving tax breaks to the rich and powerful at the expense of the poor and needy," said the hugger, Bernard Hlavac of Stevens Point.

The nuns proceeded inside the Olde Towne Mall and into Ryan's office, where a staffer talked with them.

Outside, supporters sang, making the mall ring like a church.

Meanwhile, two nuns from Beloit talked to reporters, saying they were speaking only for themselves.

"We're kind of embarrassed that they're sisters, because so are we," said Sister Joselda Kuhle.

The bus nuns don't talk about issues such as abortion or that marriage should only be between a man and a woman, said the other nun, Sister Rosalia Bauer.

Bauer supported Ryan's approach to the national budget.

"Jesus didn't say give out handouts, give out handouts, give out handouts," Bauer said. "He said, ‘Work!' We can't keep giving out handouts because we'll run out of money."

Sister Marge Clark, one of four Nuns on the Bus, said they are also pro-life and against gay marriage, "but those are not our issues."

Many Catholics are working on those issues, but not so many are working on social-justice issues such as the right to food, housing and health care, Clark said.

Campbell said after the meeting that Ryan's staff treated the nuns well and took "copious notes" about the nuns' concerns.

Campbell said politics should not be like a Packers game, with commentary on who scores points, who wins and who loses.

"We know we don't agree on everything. … Let's engage in governance to solve our problems," Campbell said.

The crowd was enthusiastic, and Campbell said several times how impressed she was by the warm, "heartland" reception.

"You go, girls!" read a sign held by Nancy Webb of Madison.

"I'm not Catholic. I'm not religious. But I do give a damn about people, and I think the nuns do as well," Webb said.

The nuns did not advocate for particular candidates or parties, but the crowd seemed to be on the Democratic side.

"I'm here because I don't like the Ryan budget," said Jackie Sherrer of Edgerton.

Brittany Riley of Stoughton held a sign that said "Jesus was a liberal."

Riley said she is Catholic but pro-choice. She said she appreciated the nuns' efforts "to stand up for Catholic values."

Several Democratic candidates attended the event, including Rob Zerban of Kenosha, who is challenging Ryan for the 1st District congressional seat in the Nov. 6 elections.

Zerban, a Catholic, said he supports a woman's right to choose and gay marriage.

Ryan issued a statement, acknowledging unemployment and the plight of the poor.

"Economic stagnation and a growing dependency on government assistance continues to push this country toward a debt crisis in which those who get hurt the first and the worst are the poor, the sick and the elderly, the people who need government the most," Ryan said.

While only four nuns were on the bus Tuesday, up to 14 nuns will be on the tour as it proceeds, the nuns said.

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carlitosway
Dec 13, 2012 at 3:45 p.m.
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Ryan is against everything they stand for and he could care less about the POOR ans ELDERLY WHAT A BUNCH OF LYING GARBAGE HE SPITS OUT OF HIS MOUTH

Sandman
Jun 24, 2012 at 6:02 p.m.
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I was disappointed because I thought they would FLYING in - didn't realize it was just a road trip trip. I love to watch 'em land!

Hey - what's their take on the SIDEWALK PLAN? Maybe we can get their opinion on that issue too! After all, low-income people may have to walk some. Why should they have to walk in the street?

See...all we need in this country is a little NONEsense (or do we already have enough of that already).?

analertcitizen
Jun 23, 2012 at 10:15 p.m.
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@fedup-Re: your post- Feduptaxpayer
Jun 21, 2012 at 3:52 p.m.
analert - were you a bully as a child???
If you mean " Did I stick up for the rights of others and did not quit?" then I guess I was a bully.

Midnight_Ride
Jun 23, 2012 at 1:35 p.m.
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billnewbie, Right, we did see the beginning of a "my way or the highway" 2008 Congress with Pelosi and Reid and "drain the swamp". They not only didn't try to work with Bush, they made him a 2 year lame duck and blamed him for everything wrong. Which today was so much better then where we are 3-1/2 years later.
McCain wouldn't have been much better I don't think, but I'd sure like to get the guy in there now out if we have any chance of survival as a nation.

Midnight_Ride
Jun 23, 2012 at 1:35 p.m.
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billnewbie, Right, we did see the beginning of a "my way or the highway" 2008 Congress with Pelosi and Reid and "drain the swamp". They not only didn't try to work with Bush, they made him a 2 year lame duck and blamed him for everything wrong. Which today was so much better then where we are 3-1/2 years later.
McCain wouldn't have been much better I don't think, but I'd sure like to get the guy in there now out if we have any chance of survival as a nation.

Midnight_Ride
Jun 23, 2012 at 1:26 p.m.
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Joan
Jesus would never ever ask or expect a government to interfere. Jesus asked it of the individual and was crucified by big tyrannus/powerful government. Republicans give more to charities then Democrats.

Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article...

Joan
Jun 22, 2012 at 5:50 p.m.
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What would Jesus do? He would help the poor and what would republicans do? They would help the rich.

Thanks Sisters for standing up for the will of God and everything that is good.

billnewbie
Jun 22, 2012 at 5:28 p.m.
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Youkillme, I said that I thought you were talking about finding common ground to form a perfect union, which the Democrats were most certainly not trying to do from the very first day that George W. Bush took office. Now you want proof that Democrats were trying to "bring down" the Bush presidency. Talk about bait and switch! Furthermore, you say the Republicans were trying to "bring down" the Obama presidency from day 1. If you mean they were developing a strategy to win in 2012, of course they were. So were the Democrats in 2001 working toward victory in 2004, fruitless as it turned out. And just as the Democrats were here in Wisconsin, working against Governor Walker even before he took office.

In any case, you don't have to prove that political parties work for the detriment of their rivals. That's just what they do. Sanctimoniously pretending they yours doesn't is just silly.

gazettefan
Jun 22, 2012 at 8:05 a.m.
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Given the latest Sandusky (a devout christian) development and related problems in the Church, the government should conduct an overhaul of its child adoption policies.

RetiredAirForce
Jun 22, 2012 at 1:05 a.m.
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Nice try with the link youkillme. A book, for profit, by a lib writer is proof of what?

youkillme
Jun 21, 2012 at 9:22 p.m.
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Exactly billnewbie, the nuns are looking to find common ground to form a more perfect union. Do you have proof of Democrats plotting a conspiracy to take down the Bush presidency from the day he was elected? Here's one link showing republicans plotted on the eve of Obama's inauguration to bring the country to a standsstill and take down his presidency. Feel free to post the same from Democrats about Bush.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...

dkush21
Jun 21, 2012 at 8:38 p.m.
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You go, Sisters!!!!!

billnewbie
Jun 21, 2012 at 8:37 p.m.
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Media documented meetings of plots to bring the economy to a standstill, Youkillme? Perhaps you refer to many media generated propaganda pieces in support of their favorite political party. Besides, I thought you were talking about finding common ground to form a perfect union, which the Democrats were most certainly not trying to do from the very first day that George W. Bush took office. That was the comment you posted that my comment was responding to.

youkillme
Jun 21, 2012 at 8:14 p.m.
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Billnewbie, No comparison at all with George W. Bush. But point me to media that documented meetings of top Democrats plotting to use their public office to bring the U.S. economy to a standstill and take down President Bush and you might change my mind. Plain old public criticism of Bush doesn't count.

Midnight_Ride
Jun 21, 2012 at 7:46 p.m.
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School House Rock! Awesome!!

billnewbie
Jun 21, 2012 at 7:42 p.m.
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Youkillme, or what Democrats have been doing since the election of George W. Bush!

analertcitizen
Jun 21, 2012 at 3:37 p.m.
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@kay- Displaying your mental age???

Joe_McC
Jun 21, 2012 at 3:35 p.m.
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If these nuns are true Catholics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTHNnSRns...

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 3:26 p.m.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...

Poor Bill, Obama threw him in the trash with the Constitution.

analertcitizen
Jun 21, 2012 at 3:24 p.m.
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@Youkill- Amen!

youkillme
Jun 21, 2012 at 3:09 p.m.
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alertcitizen, I found it amazing she wasn't bringing the wrath of God down upon us if you happen to be on a different path. But instead spoke about finding common ground to form a perfect union. She exemplifies exactly the opposite of what Republicans have been doing since the election of Barack Obama.

Joe_McC
Jun 21, 2012 at 3:09 p.m.
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"Sr. Mary Michael Berry served as Mercy Hospital’s administrator from 1963 to 1989. She was a true visionary who led Mercy through several expansions."

http://static.npaper-wehaa.com/pub-files...

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 3:07 p.m.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxVUpBukA...

I wonder of SEIU and Obama even know or understand it? No to the later as in actions shown 3-1/2 years.

analertcitizen
Jun 21, 2012 at 2:56 p.m.
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@youkillme- Thank you for posting this sweet segment of a lovely person ( nun) explaining her philosophy. Hardly the fascist, union goon, thug, lefty, Constitution hating commie that these posters want to portray. The crazies are at it again. Embarassing really.

jvldss
Jun 21, 2012 at 2:54 p.m.
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Oops. The Gazette has a typo in the headline. It should read "Sisters' act: NUTS bring message to Janesville".

youkillme
Jun 21, 2012 at 2:40 p.m.
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Watch these evil fascist union nuns disrespect the Constitution and trash anyone who disagrees with them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YqR9P04d...

greatplain
Jun 21, 2012 at 2:33 p.m.
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I love these nuns! Sisters doing it for...us all. Truth to power.

Joe_McC
Jun 21, 2012 at 2:17 p.m.
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Sister Mary Michael Berry must be rolling in her grave. That was one tough nun.

gazettefan
Jun 21, 2012 at 2:13 p.m.
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Hey, maxdetail, out on good behavior?

If you knew anything about Jesus you'd know that your lord and savior was a commie.

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 2:02 p.m.
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http://www.inquisitr.com/259991/supreme-...

Oh no, bye bye Nuns. There goes your funding.

analertcitizen
Jun 21, 2012 at 2:02 p.m.
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@kay- Once again...

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 1:58 p.m.
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As a matter of fact, I'd be down right upset if you agreed with me. Nuns thrown out on their ears and paraded in public by the SEIU.
It's the only way the left knows how to exploit.

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 1:56 p.m.
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AC - good!
I wouldn't expect anything less from you.

analertcitizen
Jun 21, 2012 at 1:44 p.m.
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@kay- Again, I'd be embarrassed to admit it. In fact, I'm embarrassed for you.

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 1:41 p.m.
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AC - these "nuns" were removed. They are now being funded by the thugs at SEIU.
Welcome to left wing feminazism. LOL

analertcitizen
Jun 21, 2012 at 1:28 p.m.
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After reading the comments of our local goofy, ever posting Republicans and I was still a Republican and not an Independent, I'd be embarrassed to admit it. Here ladies and gentlemen is your new Republican Party.

teapartysal
Jun 21, 2012 at 1:03 p.m.
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I say again.. auction off some vatican treasures.

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 12:59 p.m.
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I can't top that!!!!!!! LOL

vnvet7071
Jun 21, 2012 at 12:59 p.m.
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Good one V, I'd hate to behind you in line for confession. HA!

kaysbrew
Jun 21, 2012 at 12:43 p.m.
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Haha V -
I so needed that good laugh. Thank you

(This comment was admonished by the site staff.)

maxdetail
Jun 21, 2012 at 12:38 p.m.
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What? Four well seasoned ladies put on some clothes they rummaged from the dumpster at Goodwill and call themselves nuns? Anyone can call themselves a "nun" but you know as well as I do that nuns look a lot like tall penguins. Gazettefan, in his charcoal mu-mu, looks more like a nun than those gals. Nope, shenanigans!
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We barely got rid of the union liberals and now the liberal nuns show up. Seems that this is just going to be the year of liberal silliness.

LibertyBelle
Jun 21, 2012 at 12:14 p.m.
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Nuns - bought and paid for by SIEU

Loses big in Supreme Court.

youkillme
Jun 21, 2012 at noon
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f'edup writes - "Hmmm - Nuns against a balanced budget." Paul Ryan budget is a balance budget???

Hahahahahahha ...wooooo...hoody-whoooo?.....LOL....hahahahhaaha....that's the funniest thing I heard all day... thanks for the laugh. wowowowowowowo...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEE...LOLOLOLOLOL. f'edup, you're even funnier without your clown nose and baldcap. Who knew?

jvldss
Jun 21, 2012 at 11:19 a.m.
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The nuns on the bus go 'round and 'round...
'round and 'round, 'round and 'round...
The nuns on the bus go 'round and 'round...
all through the town!

All the more reason to keep church and state separate.

vnvet7071
Jun 21, 2012 at 10:51 a.m.
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Or they could come to your HOME and feed you your mush! " Oh nurse, more mush for Mr Fedup please ".

gazettefan
Jun 21, 2012 at 9:13 a.m.
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Like I said earlier on this thread:

Jesus was a communist.

factsplease
Jun 21, 2012 at 9:09 a.m.
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I'll answer my question. Jesus would say to "render unto Cesar that which is Cesars" (pay your taxes) and he would tell you that if you don't want to pay taxes, then GIVE your money to CHARITY and you won't have to pay taxes! No way would he say "What's mine is mine."
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First commandment, is love God and the 2nd is to love your neighbor, no commandments about loving money or possessions...NONE. In fact, the only people he gets angry with are the money changers and salespeople in the temple. "My house shall be called a house of prayer, but you make it a den of robbers." And we all know his quote about rich men, heaven and camels getting through the eye of a needle.

Third_Eye
Jun 21, 2012 at 8:25 a.m.
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totellthetruth Jun 21, 2012 at 7:41 a.m.Great post!
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Some concerning quotes from the article,
"A gray-haired man enveloped Sister Simone Campbell in a bear hug.
"I'm in solidarity with the nuns against the Ryan budget and Republican policies..."
During her speech Campbell pointed out that they were working for the "common good"
Common good? Solidarity?
Author Frank Schultz later said, "The nuns did not advocate for particular candidates or parties..."
"Brittany Riley of Stoughton held a sign that said "Jesus was a liberal."
Riley said she is Catholic but pro-choice. She said she appreciated the nuns' efforts "to stand up for Catholic values."
You can not be a Catholic and be pro choice. Riley has not the first clue on Catholic Values.
The best quote in the article was from a nun who supported the Church, Sister Rosalia Bauer.
"Jesus didn't say give out handouts, give out handouts, give out handouts," Bauer said. "He said, ‘Work!' We can't keep giving out handouts because we'll run out of money."

factsplease
Jun 21, 2012 at 8:23 a.m.
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The Bible is FULL of reference to the poor and needy, but not one comment about abortion or gay marriage. These nuns are right to defend the poor and needy! WWJD?

ECartman
Jun 21, 2012 at 7:57 a.m.
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It's funny how the liberals are "ok" with religion when it bennefits them. It's like arguing with a 5 year old!

yada
Jun 21, 2012 at 7:02 a.m.
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Regarding "FUNDING" WISLADY..I would imagine you support the Americans For Prosperity - Tea Party movement.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?tit...

Eagle1
Jun 21, 2012 at 7:01 a.m.
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Typical protesters all negative about what and who they hate but no ideas of their own. I wish I had the free time these clowns do.

DrTalk
Jun 21, 2012 at 5:48 a.m.
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"We cannot stand by silently when the U.S. Congress considers further enriching the wealthiest Americans at the expense of struggling, impoverished families," the nuns say on their website."

I don't like it either. That's why I don't approve of government-run lotteries.

RetiredAirForce
Jun 21, 2012 at 1:57 a.m.
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I am amused at all the left wing anti-religion people climbing on board with this stunt. For those claiming a proposed budget goes against some religious teaching why not point out what religion says anything about a countries budget at all? What religion declares a country should borrow 40 cents for every dollar spent?

I agree somewhat with the lying guy from out west. Wow...A number of anti-Catholic liberals here. Shows you where these phonies really stand doesn't it?!

youkillme
Jun 21, 2012 at 12:50 a.m.
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Maybe if Paul Ryan would have admitted that his budget proposal is not based in reality but on his personal remedy to the fairy tale society in Ayn Rand's novel "Atlas Shrugged," the nuns would not be trying to correct his misguided understanding of Catholicism. Love.

onelife2live
Jun 21, 2012 at 12:38 a.m.
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Maybe they should protest the Vatican's budget...or abortion. Their platform has always had the main beam as against premarital sex, abortion and gay marriage, just saying. Nuns protesting...wow the left is getting desperate now. Peace

Wis_Family
Jun 21, 2012 at 12:17 a.m.
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Brittany Riley appreciates the nuns standing up for Catholic values....and she's pro-choice? Where's that value stand Brittany? Not as important?

youkillme
Jun 20, 2012 at 11:42 p.m.
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onelife, Ryan opened the door when he claimed his budget is based on tenets of Catholicism. Where's the separation of Church and State outrage? The nuns had nothing to do with that. What is this - some sort of Christian sharia law? He's supposed to be using a mathematical calculator and the Constitution for the government budget - not tenets of his religion. I don't blame the nuns at all for standing up for theior beliefs, but they're not a U.S. Congressman. Whatever Ryan touches turns to crap. Love.

onelife2live
Jun 20, 2012 at 11:32 p.m.
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Sorry, but if the churches want to stay tax free and keep the separation of church and state then they should stay out of political economical issues. Stick with the political moral obligation. Stop abortion and child sexual abuse and then tell us how to set a budget, as yours is based on donations. jmo

disclaimer: I am a Lutheran Christian, but I do not go to church for guidance on politicians policies on money when you are benefiting greatly by such policies. Are they "politicking" for membership? The organized religions have benefited greatly by our laws. Do not throw stones at glass houses comes to mind here. Peace

youkillme
Jun 20, 2012 at 11:07 p.m.
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Most likely with money.

befair
Jun 20, 2012 at 11:01 p.m.
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How are the sisters funding their effort?

Hornet
Jun 20, 2012 at 10:29 p.m.
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Listen to this program: http://wpr.org/webcasting/play-wma.cfm?F...

Joy Cardin - 120430A
Members of the Catholic faith say Congressman Paul Ryan is misusing the church's teachings to defend his budget proposal. After six, Joy Cardin's guest discusses why he says the Ryan plan would hurt the poor and vulnerable, and what a more genuine Catholic approach would look like.
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Guest: Dan Maguire, Professor of Ethics, MarquetteUniversity. Recent piece: http://wpr.org/r/?725
From: Monday 4/30/2012 6:00 AM

onelife2live
Jun 20, 2012 at 10:22 p.m.
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"Ryan's cult"?!

Wow, stay off the kool-aid. Paul Ryan has a sensible solution to a big problem. The Nuns are a little off line here. They need to focus on their moral obligation.....abortion and gay marriage. jmo

youkillme
Jun 20, 2012 at 10:03 p.m.
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The Catholic Church will continue to lose influence and respect with members like Paul Ryan. Ryan threw the separation of church and state under the bus. He's divided the Church and threw his religion under the bus and now Ryan's cult followers are throwing those Catholic nuns under the bus. Everything the poisonous Ryan touches turns to crap. What a total embarrassment to our community and state.

lovemycountry
Jun 20, 2012 at 9:55 p.m.
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Zerban needs to find a new denomination.

BostonBill
Jun 20, 2012 at 9:40 p.m.
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daud11, Good post.

BostonBill
Jun 20, 2012 at 9:31 p.m.
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vocalese, Good luck. Yesterday, out of frustration I asked my dog why the party of NO is incapable of any type of positive action or compromise and my dog growled and looked at a picture of……….Then I understood.

booch11
Jun 20, 2012 at 9:29 p.m.
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interesting,
it used to be about the church and the community helping those in need. apparently these nuns missed those days in catechism class.
now it is up to the good ole government to help us all.
God help us!

daud11
Jun 20, 2012 at 9:19 p.m.
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vatoloco said: Teach a man to vote Democrat and he will forever wonder what work is.
Sir, you are a fool if this is where your head really is. You may or may not work hard every day, but what it comes down to at the end of the day is-who are you working for? Clearly, YOU have taken the selfish, narcissistic path through life. Good for YOU. I hope YOU have all the success that YOU believe defines YOUR existence. But many people also work very hard every day and hold the belief that their personal well-being is inherently tied to the well-being of their neighbors as well. YOU don't get this. Never will. That's what Nuns on a bus is all about. We all get to choose who we work for, YOU just made a poor choice.

vocalese
Jun 20, 2012 at 8:56 p.m.
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Could you allow that there are many hardworking democrats, hardworking republicans....not to mention independents? Stereotyping isn't helpful, as it doesn't provide a full picture of reality.

vocalese
Jun 20, 2012 at 8:22 p.m.
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Are our leaders and Mr. Ryan working for the dignity of all citizens, or for the richest of our citizens?

Watch the upcoming Farm Bill action... as members of the House and Senate are preparing to eliminate SNAP/food stamps for the poorest of the poor - because they are getting ready to benefit big agribusiness and slash food stamp funding in a big way!

The sad thing is that fellow citizens are going to be hurt by actions like this... yet they are buying into the (republican) platform
without knowing the full scope of the plan. By the time they wake up, the damage will be done.

If the Nun's plea for conversation was heeded, and the morality factor voiced by the Bishops was heeded, our country wouldn't be heading down the road of greed and unthinking competition. We could see a middle ground solution emerge. Unfortunately the majority leaders grasping for power seem to be blinded by ambition.

The Bishop's letter (see excerpt below)
1. Every budget decision should be assessed by whether it protects or threatens human life and dignity.
2. A central moral measure of any budget proposal is how it affects the lives and dignity of “the least of these” (Matthew 25). The needs of those who are hungry and homeless, without work or in poverty should come first.
3. Government and other institutions have a shared responsibility to promote the common good of all, especially ordinary workers and families who struggle to live in dignity in difficult economic times.
The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, formerly known as food stamps), provides vital food security to families during tough economic times. It is estimated that cuts proposed in this bill would deny assistance to two million families, and cut the benefit for everyone else. No poor family that receives food assistance would be unaffected, constituting a direct threat to their human dignity...."

How can we each contribute to creating a joint solution? My contribution is my voice, and this comment.

NVgrf
Jun 20, 2012 at 7:21 p.m.
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Wow...A number of anti-Catholic Republicans here. Shows you where these phonies really stand doesn't it?!

gazettefan
Jun 20, 2012 at 7:03 p.m.
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chett, Jesus was a communist.

poobah
Jun 20, 2012 at 6:50 p.m.
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Bowlgal said, "They are not speaking for the Catholic church and to continue to write these stories that they do is false reporting."

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops speaks on behalf of Catholic Bishops within the United States and they have clearly stated in the following letter to Congress that Ryan's budget fails to meet a most basic moral test.

"The Catholic bishops of the United States recognize the serious deficits our country faces, and we acknowledge that Congress must make difficult decisions about how to allocate burdens and sacrifices and balance resources and needs. However, deficit reduction and fiscal responsibility efforts must protect and not undermine the needs of poor and vulnerable people. The proposed cuts to programs in the budget reconciliation fail this basic moral test." Most Reverend Stephen E. Blaire speaking on behalf of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops about the Paul Ryan budget. [ http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/h... ]

WalterReuther
Jun 20, 2012 at 6:33 p.m.
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chett,
You won't find that saying in the Bible. Jesus never said it. That is a mid 19th century British expression.

WalterReuther
Jun 20, 2012 at 6:33 p.m.
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chett,
You won't find that saying in the Bible. Jesus never said it. That is a mid 19th century British expression.

chett
Jun 20, 2012 at 5:38 p.m.
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WOW Where does a good catholic start in at this article? First How come Church and State should be separate? except when the Church shares your views? Second There should be no, none, any issue bigger for catholics then tax payer money going to pay for abortion PERIOD. I don't question there faith but I certainly question there priorities. and Jesus was not a liberal! Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he eats for life.

no
Jun 20, 2012 at 5:29 p.m.
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*how can you take seriously the opinions of people who abide by the bizarre notions about sex that is intrinsic to the misogynist mentality of the Catholic Church?*

Because "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"...at least in this instance, until they start arguing about the ACA again.

no
Jun 20, 2012 at 5:29 p.m.
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*how can you take seriously the opinions of people who abide by the bizarre notions about sex that is intrinsic to the misogynist mentality of the Catholic Church?*

Because "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"...at least in this instance, until they start arguing about the ACA again.

Maxcap75
Jun 20, 2012 at 4:56 p.m.
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right on bowlgal!

gazettefan
Jun 20, 2012 at 4:50 p.m.
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Yes, and their days of having something better to do are over.

Bowlgal
Jun 20, 2012 at 4:47 p.m.
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I really don't understand their message. They are not speaking for the Catholic church and to continue to write these stories that they do is false reporting.
Paul Ryan is a highly respected member of the Catholic church and these nuns were admonished.

I think they are getting press only because they are just nice old ladies with nothing better to do.

gazettefan
Jun 20, 2012 at 4:42 p.m.
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No, read the quote again.

NVgrf
Jun 20, 2012 at 4:42 p.m.
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Great to see such great ladies practicing the great principles of Jesus and the First Amendment at the same time!

wislady
Jun 20, 2012 at 4:42 p.m.
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The NOBs.

Funded by SEIU, ACORN, and NETWORK,

"We’re doing this because these are life issues,” said Sister Simone Campbell, executive director of Network, a liberal social justice lobby in Washington."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/us/us-...

non_grata
Jun 20, 2012 at 4:34 p.m.
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"Economic stagnation and a growing dependency on government assistance continues to push this country toward a debt crisis in which those who get hurt the first and the worst are the poor, the sick and the elderly, the people who need government the most," Ryan said.

So he agrees with the nuns then, right?!?

gazettefan
Jun 20, 2012 at 4:25 p.m.
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yada, how can you take seriously the opinions of people who abide by the bizarre notions about sex that is intrinsic to the misogynist mentality of the Catholic Church?

yada
Jun 20, 2012 at 4:19 p.m.
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Good Job on the bus tour.
"Paul Ryan LIES About Medicare"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H1GlHKdj...

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