Concealed-carry law increases interest in gun club and its gun show

By STAN MILAM   Sunday, March 4, 2012
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Mike Hoffeditz, of Rockford, Ill, checks out the eye relief of a scope on display at the Spring Gun Show at Rock County 4-H Fairgrounds on Saturday.

Mike Hoffeditz, of Rockford, Ill, checks out the eye relief of a scope on display at the Spring Gun Show at Rock County 4-H Fairgrounds on Saturday.

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Curtis Holstrom of Janesville checks out a 12-gauge over under shotgun on display at the Spring Gun Show at the Rock County 4-H Fairgrounds on Saturday.

Curtis Holstrom of Janesville checks out a 12-gauge over under shotgun on display at the Spring Gun Show at the Rock County 4-H Fairgrounds on Saturday.

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Thomas Felske of East Troy talks to Roy Hernandez of Fort Atkinson and his sons Rob, 11, right and Michael, 9, about concealed carry classes at the Spring Guns Show hosted by the Rock County Rifle and Pistol Club at the Rock County 4-H Fairgrounds on Saturday.

Thomas Felske of East Troy talks to Roy Hernandez of Fort Atkinson and his sons Rob, 11, right and Michael, 9, about concealed carry classes at the Spring Guns Show hosted by the Rock County Rifle and Pistol Club at the Rock County 4-H Fairgrounds on Saturday.

— Interest in firearms, fueled partly by Wisconsin’s new concealed-carry law, prompted a thousand gun enthusiasts to the Rock County 4-H Fairgrounds in Janesville on Saturday for the Rock County Rifle and Pistol Club gun show.

“Interest has definitely picked up, and I’m sure the new concealed-carry law has something to do with it,” said the club’s president, Joe LeBeau of Janesville. “We see increased interest in firearms and an increase in our membership.”

LeBeau answered questions about the club Saturday while signing up new club members. He said the club now has about 360 members including adult men and women and junior members.

The current club has been incorporated since 1981, but its roots go back to the Janesville Rifle and Pistol Club founded in 1910.

“We’ve been around a while in one form or another, but we are seeing a lot of growth recently,” LeBeau said. “The club is shut down now for renovations that should be completed by the end of the month.”

The club can afford to make improvements to the clubhouse and indoor range at 1029 S. Jackson St., Janesville, because of successful fundraisers such as the two gun shows it holds each year. Vendors at the shows represent two types of sellers—independent, private collectors and dealers with a federal firearm license.

“I’m a private collector,” said Lee Thompson of Janesville. “Like any collector, my collection grows to the point where I need to thin it out. That’s what I’m doing here at the show.”

Thompson, a retired Janesville police officer, is similar to many collectors in that he specializes in certain types of firearms.

“I concentrate on military weapons because I like to study the history behind them,” Thompson said. “But, I can’t keep all the weapons I’ve collected, so I’m offering some for sale here.”

Thompson had on display a 1944 Walther P38 used by Nazi officers.

The handgun is considered a collectible because all serial numbers on various components match and there are no import markings.

“Unlike the Walther, this is not a collector, but it’s just an interesting piece,” Thompson said holding a 1944 Mauser rifle. “None of the serial numbers match, and there’s an import marking. This weapon was probably damaged in World War II, confiscated by the Russians, taken apart and then re-assembled using parts from various rifles.”

Thompson said he’s not a gun dealer, simply a collector.

“I only go to the club’s two shows a year,” he said. “I don’t have a federal license, so I’m not bound by federal regulations such as background checks, but I’m very particular about my sales.”

The benefit of having a federal license is that it allows the holder to buy, sell and re-sell new and used guns.

Pete Kramer of Cross Plains has a federal license and owns PT Firearms of Cross Plains. He said he likes coming to the Rock County shows, but might have to cut back in the future.

“Business has really picked up, and I’m very busy at the store,” he said. “I just don’t have as much time for the shows any more.”

Kramer agreed that the concealed-carry law is a factor in increased business, but it’s not the only reason.

“There’s just a greater interest in all types of firearms, not just handguns,” Kramer said.

One of the most popular weapons at Kramer’s display was the AR-15, a semi-automatic rifle similar to one used by American troops in the Vietnam War.

“That weapon is popular because it has multiple uses, including target shooting and self defense,” Kramer said. “It’s very customizable. You can change the length, caliber and other features.”

Firearms were not the only items for sale at the show. One vendor is signing people up for conceal carry classes, another vendor had shooting apparel for sale and there’s even an opportunity to buy fake books with cutouts for a handgun.

The show continues today from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. at the Craig Center on the Rock County 4-H Fairgrounds in Janesville.

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moby6400
Mar 6, 2012 at 11:50 a.m.
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What the heck does "justmy414",, Translated that means "Just my Milwaukee area code",,Strange name!!!

jm
Mar 6, 2012 at 10:21 a.m.
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How will this affect the pay of police?How will this affect the amount that crime stoppers pays to people who report,capture and/or apprehend a criminal?Will the police be expected to donate more money to the crime stoppers fund in order to ballance the budget better?And,what tax write off deal will follow in order to convince the police to give-up more donations to allow more money for crime stoppers so they can pay such responsible citizens that were never responsible enough in the first place to define the position of the Police,the Government and most of all the responsibility that goes along with being a "boss" and making sure the tasks of your taxes that you are paying for protection are being dealt with properly in the first place.
It makes the task of defining the word responsibility more difficult.I'll bet this will really add to the educational "argument".

spark
Mar 6, 2012 at 8:39 a.m.
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justmy414 - Yes, you are so much smarter than everyone. You know all the details. Keep reading your left slanted stories and pretend you are an expert on the situation. Better yet, stop while you are ahead. The more you post on this, the more obvious it's simply political for you.

Sigma40
Mar 6, 2012 at 6:06 a.m.
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justmy414 - How many witnesses were in the house at 2am when the shooting took place? By all ive read on it the guy clearly was in the right 110% to shoot the person entering his home. Defending ones domain the law of the jungle applies...kill or be killed. Anyone who hesitates or wants to question the intruder may just end up dead....is your life worth finding out? Or your spouses? Or kids? Hell no.

justmy414
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:51 p.m.
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That isn't what the other witnesses are saying happened, perhaps that is what your friend the homeowner says happened but that doesn't make it the truth. However, if you do personnely know him you might want to suggest he get counseling for the guilt feelings he is bound to begin to experience.

spark
Mar 5, 2012 at 4:48 p.m.
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justmy414 - Ignorance comes from those that feel they can blame ones actions on others. It's called accountability. Something many people these days seem to have forgotten. Either that or they were never taught the meaning of it. But what do I expect. Like a majority of people on this blog, they blame everything in life on Scott Walker. It's actually comical.

justmy414
Mar 5, 2012 at 4:35 p.m.
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As long as you are comfortable in your ignorance.

spark
Mar 5, 2012 at 2:55 p.m.
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justmy414 - As long as you are comfortable in your imaginary World, that's all that matters.

gonfo5
Mar 5, 2012 at 2:19 p.m.
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The statement about the concealed carry bill is correct that it did bring more interests in guns but I don't think it had anything to do with the gun show. I've been going to this gun show for about 6 years now and I didn't see any more or less people than I've normally seen. Last years show seemed to be a little better but it was pretty good this year. Just depends on what weapons you are into.

justmy414
Mar 5, 2012 at 2:09 p.m.
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I just call them as they are.

spark
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:59 p.m.
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justmy414 - You just proved your ignorance with that last sentence. You don't know more than others know about this because you just turned it into another "i hate Walker" incident. Even worse, a racism incident. That's what this is about with you. Doctrine or not, you can't predict how people are going to react when they feel threatened. This law had nothing to do with it.

justmy414
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:54 p.m.
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Actually, yes, it did. I know more about the Castle Doctrine than you will ever know. While it is legal to have a gun in your home, until Castle Doctrine it wasn't presumed that you could just shoot on site. Prior to this you had to actually have a reasonable belief you were in danger and the use of force had to be preportional to the danger. Shooting a kid, outside of your house on the enclosed porch, after you had enough time to call 911 wouldn't have been proportionate. By the way, one misdemeanor conviction and some misdemeanor charges doesn't give license to just gun some guy down. But Castle Doctrine worked just the way Walker intended, some older white guy got to shot down a young black man.

EMMO46
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:05 p.m.
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The photo also shows that Mr. Holstrom does NOT have his finger on the trigger, but has it pointed strait forward in a safe manner as taught in Hunter Safety and Concealed Carry classes.

BunBun
Mar 5, 2012 at 12:56 p.m.
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"By the way, what is that guy shooting at in the photo? I don't believe what the caption states."
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Sarah, a shotgun is pointed, not aimed as a rifle. Since shooting a shotgun is based on instinctive shooting (hence the reason that trap/bird guns have a bead front sight and no rear sight) it is important that the gun fit properly. It is common to check the fit of a shotgun by picking out a point (lightbulb or such)and bringing the gun to a firing position instinctively. At this point you check where the bead is in relation to the target. A shotgun shooter can try several before finding one that naturaly come up to where the eye is looking. Pointing at the ceiling serves two purposes - the first is that since no one is likely hanging about in the rafters, it is safe to aim there and second- up in the air is where birds/clay pigeons would be found.

spark
Mar 5, 2012 at 12:52 p.m.
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justmy414 - Actually, no it didn't and you should educate yourself on the doctrine more. There was already a law in place for protection. The doctrine was merely an extension of that law giving the homeowner more protection. Go ask any lawyer or law enforcement officer about it.

kawisixer01
Mar 5, 2012 at 12:43 p.m.
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Justmy414...I think you are mistaken, or taking a very very radical turn of the story. That 20 year old wasn't "lost". He has a rap sheet longer than most adults accumulate in a lifetime. That 2o year old was drunk and fleeing from the police. (another felony to add to his long record)The man that shot him was defending his home and his family from a drunk intruder running from police in the middle of the night. The man that shot him was an elderly gentleman that rightfully protected himself from a much younger and likely much stronger man running from the police drunk who broke into his home. This young man experienced what happens when you take the chance to run from the police in a drunken state and break into someones home in the middle of the night. Maybe you like to take your chances and wait for the police to come save you you, but I and many others will continue to protect our homes and families from people who see fit to break in and threaten our safety.

Sigma40
Mar 5, 2012 at 12:10 p.m.
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justmy414 - Not even related. Guns have always been legal to have in your home.
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MadeinUSA - What ordinance is Thompson trying to get around? Ive dealt with him before, he is a good honest guy.

justmy414
Mar 5, 2012 at 12:02 p.m.
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That incident had everything to do with Walker's Castle Doctrine.

spark
Mar 5, 2012 at 10:59 a.m.
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justmy414 - That incident had nothing to do with whether conceal and carry was legal or not. This was a homeowner situation. I think that was Sigmas point.

germancaveguy
Mar 5, 2012 at 10:43 a.m.
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Talk about bias at its finest.

Sure, the new concealed carry law likely has created some new interest in firearms. However, to attribute the success of this show on the new law is ridiculous.

Could the fact that consumer confidence is higher now than it has been over the last four years have anything to do with the increase in people looking to buy and sell? Of course it does. While many people appreciate guns, the majority realize that buying one is not always a priority.

The worst thing about reporting like this is that it has the ability to portray those that respect and appreciate firearms as being pulled in simply by new legislation. This is not the image that I, nor many other people I know, want to have projected.

It's politics like this that make the issue of owning a firearm more than what it should be. Speaking as if concealed carry being passed should compel people to get out and buy a gun is just terrible reporting. I would expect this type of marketing from a seller, but not as news.

justmy414
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:49 a.m.
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None killed? Sigma, except for that 20 year old who was killed this weekend because he got lost and went to the wrong house for a party.

Sigma40
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:10 a.m.
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Where are all the gun haters? All these people carrying guns now, gun shows are packed, guns, guns, and more guns.... and how many people have been hurt or died because of? None I believe.

Coloradoman
Mar 5, 2012 at 3:16 a.m.
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I'm glad people are taking interest in owning guns for self protection, because it may come to that with the way things are going.

JohnDoe
Mar 4, 2012 at 11:10 p.m.
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if global warming cooperates,...I will keep my arms bare.

jv93
Mar 4, 2012 at 9:56 p.m.
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...to keep and bear arms.

Uncle_Jesse
Mar 4, 2012 at 9:44 p.m.
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The Rock County Rifle and Pistol Club is a very good organization . I have been a member on and off over the years . You used to get a code to enter the range and could shoot any time 24 hrs a day wich is very convenient .
http://rcrpc.com/

Sigma40
Mar 4, 2012 at 9:05 p.m.
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90% of the guns there are above retail. You could go to Gander Mt. and get cheaper. I did find one deal though. Also seen a couple gypsy ladies selling some non-gun related junk in the middle of the place, not the place for jewelery and junk.

bleeding_heart
Mar 4, 2012 at 8:09 p.m.
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I've went through the DNR hunters ed program that this club offered, and took an NRA course at a different time - sponsored by this club. The instructors were very knowledgeable, courteous and above all - professional. I learned a lot from these courses. The range was pretty decent, at the time I took the NRA course, so renovations should make it real nice. Everyone that I have talked with that is active in this club has left me with the impression that this organization is definitely a gem within the Janesville community.

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