Save the money and fix our roads.

Neonate: "so now i am forced to pay for a service i dont use. when i bought my house it didnt even come with a recycle bin. so i dont recycle." - Duh....Mandatory recycling has been a law in the State of Wisconsin for over 20 years. I am astounded at your comments. Educate yourself on the benefits of recycling.

76 comments on an article about the change in trash pickup. Why am I not surprised, Janesville?

Overtime for bagboys? RIDICULOUS!

Frogger (March 17 @9:14am),
Thank you for the suggestion, but what I do now is toss my trash bag on top of the snow bank!

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lvbald537
Mar 16, 2012 at 4:07 p.m.
Suggest removal

Where do we set the cart when the curb is piled high with snow banks??"

What do you do now? Do the same thing- put them in the gutter.

This isn't that difficult people.
I use the appartment dumpster but I will get two sets of trash cans for my duplex and use them for wood or something else. That would be handy.

It will save the city money...

And how might that happen? Charging higher fees is not saving money, and the ROI on that 5.6 million spent on new equipment might be?
Lifecycle cost of the new equipment versus the old? Reliability of the new trucks? What does the garbageman do if the lift breaks? Go get another truck, or try to lift and dump 95 gallon containers?

This city is run by people that get confused by smoke and mirror salesman.

rocket21
that will differ from each town because Waunakke dose not have a wheel tax.

...and for those of you that say you don't recycle - thanks for deliberately trying to making MY taxes be that much higher! >:P

There ARE no cons to this system. It will save the city money; no one is losing their jobs, it IS more efficient, all of the plastics will be accepted AND recycled. Cleaner, more aesthetically pleasing, The ONLY PROBLEM is the people UNWILLING to make it work at their OWN houses! The majority of the citizens will make it work without freaking out, like all of the other communities that enjoy the many benefits of this kind of program.

This new system sounds like it will be like toilet training for little kids from all the lame excuses. Some people just don’t have the IQ to figure out the simple things and the quality of DNA on this board is a bit below average.

Where do we set the cart when the curb is piled high with snow banks??

Holy Cow, city people whine more than anything I have ever heard. You are getting a new trash system, put your crap in the containers and have them out to the curb so it can be picked up. Get over yourselves.

I highly doubt if the trash collecters make the mess that some on here speak of. I have seen so many times that thoughless city dwellers put their papers out when it is windy, they blow all over, they put light things on top to blow all over, they have their animals running loose that get into people's trash and get it all over. Pick up your crap and dispose of it properly. Do you need someone to hold your hand and show you how?

Tag or no tag the hopper stays and if you loose it you buy another. I wonder if before the light bulb people argued. I don't want that electric devil in my home. Oil works just fine.

It's not hard to take out an RFID tag. I have a feeling that a lot of them will somehow get zapped, maybe from a weather phenomenon.

so now i am forced to pay for a service i dont use. when i bought my house it didnt even come with a recycle bin. so i dont recycle. ill get this big ugly can that will gladly lend itself to my remodeling projects. oh and if isn broke dont fix it and if the city workers gets your trash all over. it should be the city workers that come back after work hours and clean it up.

some see the glass half full, some see it half empty. Many folks here don't even see the glass.

I laugh at so many post here. Even my 10 year old can answer more than half the questions on here. Are people really that afraid of change?

JCena and rocket21, Janesville already takes recyclables with viable markets. Note that the presence of a recycling symbol on a container simply specifies the type of plastic, though; it doesn't mean anyone is actually going to pay to recycle it. Generally, the higher the number, the harder the plastic is to recycle. For the most part, only plastic types 1 and 2 can be sold. Types 3 and 4, as well as the type 5 often found in consumer containers such as soda caps, have limited markets, and types 6 and 7 are very rarely recycled. For Janesville to accept these when vendors will not only increases the sorting and diversion charges for taxpayers.
http://earth911.com/news/2009/05/25/recy...
http://greenliving.nationalgeographic.co...

I feel like, no matter how great a solution they propose, many people will find a reason to pick it to pieces & call it bad. It appears to me that there are many other problems in our world more in need of our attention than silly garbage pickup practices.

I would think for elderly people carrying a small bag, say 10gallon, would be easier than rollnig one of these things. Not everone uses huge garbage bags.
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Maybe i'll build a garbage shed out by my curb to house this new cart in. The city doesnt want garbage sittnig out and unsightly things visible (this cart) and my garage space is too valuable for it, and I cant put it in my back yard that is fenced in, my dog would destroy is.

Rocket...Why so sad? Life is to short and you can always move. Regarding dumping anything in the bin. Go for it. I'm sure you'll enjoy the fines that come with it. Most of those trucks have video feed so they see what falls out of the bin.

Rocket21....we can't do anything to stop the madness, because people like Walker are being bullied and probably pushed out. I think sometimes these 'councils' come up with ideas they don't have to. I am suspicious of this change, but at least I will stay responsible and adhere to it. I wonder how many will not be, causing it to be a troublesome and expensive change?

What if you don't recycle? Can you get two carts for trash?

It would be interesting to know the average age of the current truck fleet. I'd like to know they are making this change at the most efficient time. Also, what happens to the old trucks? perhaps we could have a Garbage Truck Demolition Derby at next year's Rock County Fair!!!!

"MooShoo
Mar 16, 2012 at 7:41 a.m.
Suggest removal

Options if your trash exceeds bin capacity:
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a. Drive to Landfill.
b. Town Roads.
c. City Parks.
d. Over the fence.
e. If you rent, the basement."

you forgot-
front porch
front yard
just keep it all inside

Yes we did the same thing with trash in Waunakee about a year ago. We got a brown can for trash and a blue one for recyclables and it seems to work ok. I have not seen any increase on my bill for trash pick-up from a year ago prior to the change. In case anyone is wondering yes the city did inform residents before making the change just like Janesville is doing now.

"These things get heavy, many elderly people can't just carry them" .... most will find it easier. they don't have to be carried, they roll. My mom (she's only 65) loves hers. She pulls it 40 yards down the gravel driveway. She considers it exercise. Imagine the thought.

Thank heavens some folks just like to complain. It gives the rest of us more people to laugh at!

Spending 3.15 million on new trucks, and 2.5 million on 48,000 containers, how long till a cost savings?

Quote: "Automation will reduce workman's compensation costs and increase efficiency, said John Whitcomb, city operations director."

Eliminating city jobs should also save money in health & pension costs.

I might like this new way. I'll no longer buy plastic bags, just dump everything in the biggie container.

I love that recyclables no longer have to be sorted. Wish ALL recyclable products would be taken though. Any chance of this change happening soon?

ya Sigma40, I don't think so. If I carry it, it will be closer to me, more chance of getting dirty before work. These things get heavy, many elderly people can't just carry them. Stop and think about someone other than yourself for a change.

"Easy to roll to curb" And we wonder why America is obese and fat? Carry them....geez.
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If im forced to have one its staying next to the curb....its permanent home.

"Also... So what are people supposed to do when they have more than their normal amount of garbage? I put 1 33 gallon bag out a week, but if I clean my garage or something I might have 4, then what?"

Sigma, you go to the dump.

this sounds cool, i'm excited :)

the carts work. most folks will find them easy to roll to the curb and big enough for their trash. they are safer for the people that pick up the garbage. whatever the cost, the folks will find them a good alternative to what they are using now.

Janesville is the only place I have lived in the past 10 years that doesn't have these containers, they are a great idea. I may have issues with the way they are being implemented and how the process to decide on what will be used, but overall I am happy they will be in use.

Also... So what are people supposed to do when they have more than their normal amount of garbage? I put 1 33 gallon bag out a week, but if I clean my garage or something I might have 4, then what?

What about those of us with just a one car garage? I don't want to have to store these big unsightly looking containers outdoors anywhere on my property. Even though the lid is closed it's still gonna attract bees and other unwanted animals if they're stored outdoors. There should be some other option out there for us.

Another stupid waste of money. The city cant stop spending money and doing stuff because it is afraid people will not see them doing anything and complain. So they invent stuff.

of course, MadeinUSA, jobs were created in making of new cans and trucks and all that is associated with them. changes aren't permanent, but change is.

I'm glad they are doing this. The new cans will be easier for me and them.
One question they might have answered, is how big are the carts? many folks have no idea on the dimensions of a 65 gal or 95 gal cart.

I'm tired of ripping paper grocery bags trying to stuff in my empty beer cases.

I've lived in an area with the lidded carts and they actually work rather well. I like the fact it keeps recycling from blowing out of the current bins and all over the neighborhood. In general, the carts work fine but they CAN be pretty unsightly and they're big enough to make hiding them a project.

Wat they dont tell you is you pay extra fees and they send all the recycle to rock disp where the cash it all in cuz its all worth money

Parking and access are concerns for me, too, as a resident of the central city. Some of the driveways on my block barely have a car length between them as it is, and people do things like put their garbage in the street.
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I don't like the idea of doing one-side-of-the-street pickup, either, if it means mixing with some of the less-than-upright citizens we sometimes get as neighbors, thanks to certain local landlords. "Hi, Joe! I see you made bail!"

The city encourages taxpayers to choose the large size? We are a family of two, with two dogs. I take the garbage out twice a month and the recyclables once a month. We will get the smaller cans, and still have the same curbsite pick up, or once a month for both. How are they going to control us putting our garbage and recyclables in them? Are they going to refuse pick up? There are residents who don't have a pick up truck available if they refuse to pick up.

I like it.

Will this new system keep the sanitation workers from littering all over my neighborhood? There is more recyclables littered in front of my house after they have been through the last couple years than ever before. If this system eliminates that, then I'm all for it. I hate coming home to collect my garbage can &/or recycling bin to find crap all over.

Q:How will automation be feasible with current parking regulations?

Where I live parking is restricted to on side of the street. I see an opportunity for the city to bank on unfair parking tickets.

i need one big enough to fit my current can in. so long old friend

We have had them for many years now. I had a big family at the time and was concerned about them being big enough. I would never want to go back to the old way.

Mr Robinson was right when he said "Plastics"

This is just like the Republican voter ID bill.

A solution in search of a problem.

No refund on what is "theirs".

Do they recycle the green ones that "are theirs"

do we get a refund on the city-owned recyclable bins we have now? or do we have a drop-off line at the City Services Center for the old bins?

Funny. I always get practical gifts for Christmas, one of them being a 65 gallon garbage can very similar to the ones shown. When I took it to the curb, the lazy garbage collector I have put a note on it saying it was too big and he couldn't lift it. He could have very easily taken the 3 trash bags out manually. Good thing there will be a truck to lift it because the workers sure won't.

This is a good idea.

Q: What if I want a third cart?

A: You must first fill your 95-gallon cart. You can buy additional carts that would remain your property. The cost of any post-warranty work on the carts you purchase would be charged to you plus service fees.

Where do I buy extra carts? How much are the extra carts? Do I have to show a full 95 gallon cart to them wherever it is I buy them?

Fixing something that is not broken, stupid stupid stupid.

Where I live, a 32 gal cart is $15/mo, a 68 gal cart is $26/mo, and a 95 gal cart is $38/mo. You could have it worse.

grandma21, the city owns buses, buildings, lawn mowers, and snow plows that you pay for. I'm not sure what you think is different about this other than that you're being charged a fee, but there is already a garbage surcharge, and you didn't even get a cart.
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Northman, I suspect that since a vendor has not been chosen, that's a placeholder image or even something the Gazette grabbed from a stock photo agency.

we also should have the option to choose some other company if we want. i have a big family and we have alot of trash... what do we do with this? also if i do go with someone else do i still get charged the $10+ charge quarterly?

Trash containers aren't free. They don't have personhood ...yet.

Our trash containers will have serial #s and electronic ID tags...but voters don't need IDs to vote ...and we, as a country can't keep tabs on illegals (from whatever country)...what's wrong with this picture?????

Since the carts won't last forever, and you have to pay for a wrecked cart after the warranty period, does that mean that eventually we'll all be buying carts?
Why aren't garbage fees on the property taxes so they're tax deductible? Wheel tax, too?
I'm just askin'...

There are two cart sizes cited in the article (95-gallon or 65-gallon), yet the picture shows three sizes. Was the wrong picture used, or is there a “rest of the story” waiting out there somewhere?

Let me get this right, the resident will pay for the carts thru garbage fees that will be raised in 2013 but the city will own them. Unbelievable!!