Mobile food stand cooks up issues in Milton
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MILTON Whether it's the prices, the competition or the unforeseen niche that it fills, one thing's for certain: A big green taco truck is causing quite a stir in downtown Milton.
The business, a mobile food stand that sells tacos, burritos, quesadillas and other types of Mexican food, has been in town just a couple of weeks, but the truck has drawn fire from local restaurant owners who say it's creating unfair competition.
The complaints have prompted city officials to review rules the city uses to regulate mobile businesses and even consider raising fees for permits for mobile businesses from $25 a year to as high at $500 to $1,000, one official suggested.
The truck, which is owned by Los Agaves, a Mexican food restaurant at 401 E. Walworth Ave., Delavan, has been parked at various public parking areas around the city, mostly in Milton's two downtown districts—Parkview Drive on the east side and Merchant Row on the west side.
Lately, the truck's been in an off-street parking lot along Parkview Drive, where it sells food from 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. daily, the truck's vendors said.
"We are the only Mexican restaurant in this town. That's why we came here," said Mayra Delgado, one of the truck's vendors.
The restaurant also has a food truck in Whitewater, Delgado said.
In March, the city issued Los Agaves a direct sale permit, the same type of permit it's issued in the past to mobile food vendors, including ones that have sold frozen meat, ice cream or concessions to walk-up customers, said City Clerk Nancy Zastrow.
The permits cost $25 per year. Milton requires direct sellers of food to have valid state permits to handle and sell food. Los Agaves has valid permits and no health code violations, said Beth Kaplan, a spokeswoman for the Wisconsin Department of Health Services.
Milton's ordinance doesn't include rules on where the businesses are allowed to park, but Zastrow said the businesses generally can park in any public parking area in the city, with the exception of Milton School District property.
Russ O'Leary, a bartender at Junction Pub, 130 Merchant Row, told The Gazette that a handful of restaurant owners complained to the city about Los Agaves. He said some want better defined rules on where mobile food vendors can park and how close they can be to restaurants.
"It sort of defeats the purpose of having a restaurant here if you have a mobile (food) truck that can pull right up," O'Leary said.
Plus, O'Leary argued, unlike bricks-and-mortar restaurants in Milton, Los Agaves' doesn't pay property taxes for its mobile truck.
"This guy pulls in, makes money, and pulls out of town," he said.
At a meeting Tuesday, the Milton City Council asked city staff to look at how other communities deal with mobile food vendors and whether the city could create rules to limit where the truck is allowed to sell food.
City Administrator Jerry Schuetz suggested the city increase permit fees for mobile vendors, which he said could level the playing field for competing businesses.
A yearly permit fee of $500 or $1,000 "makes it harder for you to undersell" the competition, he said.
Mayor Tom Chesmore stressed the city should treat the situation with kid gloves, pointing out that the Los Agaves vendors aren't breaking any city rules and the business has constitutional rights.
"I don't want to look like we're trying to be isolationist," Chesmore said.
Vanessa Valadez, whose family owns Los Agaves, told The Gazette that the restaurant's truck vendors were trying different spots in Milton to find a customer base when business owners on the west side, in Merchant Row, gave them a sour reception and then complained to the city.
The city in turn asked Los Agaves if they'd move their truck to the east side, where there are fewer restaurants, even though Los Agaves is not currently required by city rules to limit its sales to one area of the city.
Valadez said Los Agaves moved to Parkview Drive to avoid more complaints. She said it's fine, because the truck's starting to build a customer base on the east side.
"They say, 'Oh, we don't have to go all the way somewhere else for Mexican food,'" Valadez said.
Valadez is surprised Los Agaves has upset other businesses in Milton. She said the restaurant's Whitewater truck has drawn no complaints.
Whitewater City Manager Kevin Brunner said that Whitewater has an ordinance and permit that's tailored specifically to street vendors.
Brunner said when the city first passed its street vendor ordinance a few years ago, it dealt with pushback from local restaurant owners who were worried that mobile food vendors would undercut them.
He said the city's chamber of commerce groups have since embraced mobile food vendors, including Los Agaves, which he said "add ambiance" to the city.

May 7, 2012 at 12:44 p.m.
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vato-
vato-lol-loco
is what I meant.
crazy chicken
May 7, 2012 at 8:56 a.m.
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can't wait to get some tacos today :)
May 7, 2012 at 8:51 a.m.
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Great Tacos! Free enterprise lives on. Let's not forget to regulate the Ice Cream trucks, Food truck at the ball games..Food Trucks at auctions..Kids selling hot dogs soda and lemonade..maybe Milton Goverment can make enough money to give the City Council a pay raise..we need to encourage business not regulate and tax it to death
May 6, 2012 at 9:31 p.m.
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Again, "MILTON" is NOT "targeting" this food truck. (Now I know why Mr. Eyster feels he has to use all caps sometimes.) They were asked to move to another MILTON location by other BUSINESSES. (They chose to move out of respect for established business because they wanted to be cooperative, though, as they mayor said "He did (move), though he did not have to.")
Since then, I have seen Los Agaves peacefully selling their food without disturbance many times on Parkview Drive, in a parking lot during school hours, in a space normally used by parents picking up students, right next to the police department. No one has accosted them, carried signs, called them names; they just bought food or drove by.
The other businesses' request appeared to be for competition reasons, NOT for biased anti-(other)ethnicity reasons, as some people small-mindedly suggest.
Did you read Milton's own newspaper's comments for which I left a link, and will again? http://www.miltoncourieronline.com/main....
But in case you won't look because it's easier to form your own biased opinion without benefit of facts,
here are some of the comments left by MILTON (as if MILTON shares one body and one brain):
*"When the Milton Courier put a photo of the truck on its facebook page, it got 24 likes, seven favorable comments and not one unfavorable comment. One person even commented, "This makes my day!""
*"In the 12 years that City Clerk/Treasurer Nancy Zastrow's been here, said she's never seen a more complete direct seller's permit application. "We didn't have to ask for anything," she said."
*"Mayor Tom Chesmore said, "It sounds like he has been very cooperative. He doesn't have to be. He's not doing anything wrong." "
So, there's some more of MILTON from which to form your opinion.
Ok, so some people want to make sure this new entity in this very small town is playing by rules that may not have ever been needed before, so never even put into place. It's new, something that this small town has never encountered. So, are they "targeting" Los Agaves because it's new, and a new type of business for Milton? Or because it's named Los Agaves instead of Bob's Hamburgers? I think Bob would have had the same encounters. They issued him a direct seller's permit which is set up for a door-to-door type situation in which the seller is soliciting business, not for the type of operation it really is because they did not actually have such a license to issue. But they improvised and decided they now needed to discuss this new issue. So what? I bet even New York City faces new challenges with new circumstances from time to time. And Milton has about .01 % the population of NYC.
May 6, 2012 at 3:15 p.m.
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THIS:
"Los Agaves has had a mobile food truck in Whitewater for a couple of years with no issues. The food is good, and people love it. First Milton targets a gas station owned by a MIDDLE-EASTERN man because somehow him spending money to upgrade his beer cooler and stay open later than other alcohol serving entities was "unfair" to the other businesses, and now Milton is targeting a food stand owned by MEXICAN folks. Hmmm...."
May 5, 2012 at 4:48 p.m.
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I will have to go and try it out. Always looking for good food somewhere near.
May 5, 2012 at 2:37 p.m.
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i see "mouse" was on here dropping her poop all over the place...again this place has good food, and is cheap. I like it mousey obviously doesnt but by the racist comments that it makes i suppose she gets heart burn assuming it has one that is....and mousey...stop trying to pick on my daddy...he might just squish you, go back to your hole like the vermon you are
May 5, 2012 at 1:24 p.m.
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Why not set up a specific venue where food trucks can gather?
May 5, 2012 at 9:24 a.m.
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vatololloco
May 4, 2012 at 5:19 p.m.
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", should a mobile ice cream truck be allowed without concern to park near Cone Zone"
again it is competition.
Restaurants "park" next to each other on Merchant row and Milton Av. Wendys, Burger King and Mc D all within 5 blocks or so.
Car dealerships- same thing.
Department stores- wow how do the stores in the mall survive??? Kohls, Sears etc.
He sin't breaking any rules . I wouldn't move my truck either!
May 4, 2012 at 1:14 p.m.
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I guess I'm slightly confused by the "anger" at "Milton" here. Which part of Milton are you angry with? The general population? The officials? The entire business community? It may be a small town, but I believe it was one or two restaurant owners who did not want a "competitor" to park near their establishment. They asked Los Agaves to move, and they did. The police said they didn't have to. But think about it. As someone said, should a mobile ice cream truck be allowed without concern to park near Cone Zone?
That $500 to $1000 number was a number tossed out, not presently an actual number ready to be used. This kind of business license is not something already put in place, and they want to deal with it.
Remember, this IS a small town, this IS a new circumstance that should be dealt with like any other, and guidelines need to be there. Shouldn't they? Also, like someone said, your health and safety must be considered.
But anyway, Hkwnd, for your information, Milton does have a newspaper, and to me, the Courier's article about the subject sounded fair, positive, and supportive in general of Los Agaves. Even complimentary about how they handled things. http://www.miltoncourieronline.com/main....
May 4, 2012 at 12:01 p.m.
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I can already see whats coming next.How someone should of been reporting issues to the people and it isn't "fair" to the locals.
It isn't fair to the locals that someone else came in and decided to do the job for them.
May 4, 2012 at 11:58 a.m.
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milton had a mexican resuraunt, it was where the fresh fish store was in the junction... BOTH great food !!!!... both closed :(
May 4, 2012 at 11:56 a.m.
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I just don't understand.It isn't like they just drove in and set up shop right?They had to discuss this with the city and get permits.
There should of been reporting hence-FORTH from there.Maybe what they need is for someone to start a news paper so that the people of Milton can hear the news first.
Or is this just sensationalism on the part of the gazette to create news and then become the interpreter of the soap opera that many hope to become a huge part of due to the poor economy?
Maybe now would be a good opportunity for someone in Milton to start such an endeavor before someone else waltz's in and does it for you.I can already see whats coming next.How someone should of been reporting issues to the people and it isn't "fair" to the locals.
Or perhaps it was all reported as was from the onset,only for some to find out that it is doing a better business than what they thought it would.
Why the commotion?
May 4, 2012 at 10:08 a.m.
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jvilleis86ed & mouse -- increased restrictions and taxes are a democrat deal -- this is a business using a new idea in an existing market.... free enterprize. Thank you for supporting free enterprize.. naybe you will come around.
May 4, 2012 at 9:16 a.m.
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Is this why Lukes closed? because of a taco cart??? NOT
May 4, 2012 at 7:41 a.m.
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From what I can gather, there was not a Mexican food place in Milton (Chinese - yes, Italian-yes, Plenty of home cookin' places, but no Mexican), so they are filling a niche. Good for them.
May 4, 2012 at 6:36 a.m.
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I grew up in Milton, some of my fondest memories are of old Popcorn Charlie that sold Popcorn out of an old milk truck. Charlie was a trusted freind to hundreds youngsters. Milton has the regulations and have set the licensing fees, now that someone is providing differing food choices to a small town providing a service that will stand on it's own merit, city goverment wants to review licensing fees. All due to complaints by small restaurants/bars that due to their own poor customer service/food choices, are somehow losing buisness. Classic! Up your food choice and provide better better service. If you provide it.. they will come.
May 3, 2012 at 8:49 p.m.
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Anything that sells food is required to be licenesed and inspected by the health dept.
May 3, 2012 at 8:46 p.m.
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This great. About time we started getting food trucks. This is big business in New York and Chicago and other businesses should be alright if they serve quality food. I think Milton would be sending a bad message if they changed policies that would deter more busineses coming to town. We need to make the area more attractive in order to bring more money in . I will never open a businee in this town if they chase this food truck away.
May 3, 2012 at 5:14 p.m.
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I drive by the place in Delavan every day. I should just fill my trunk and setup shop in Janesville.
May 3, 2012 at 4:28 p.m.
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We eat at their Delavan location once or twice a week. Good food, good prices and a clean restaurant, great Menudo on weekends too. We moved to Wisconsin from Illinois and appreciate good Mexican food. If some people in Milton don't, then eat somewhere else.
May 3, 2012 at 4:08 p.m.
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Can't understand why Milton has issues with Los Agaves. We eat at their Delavan location at least once or twice a week. Good food, good prices and a clean restaurant, Menudo is great on weekends. We moved to Wisconsin from Illinois and are happy to have Los Agaves in town. Now, if only Portillo's would come up this way with either a restaurant or mobile truck :-)
May 3, 2012 at 4:04 p.m.
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woody - At least it was a day when my vehicle wasn't parked at one of the local saloons!
May 3, 2012 at 4:01 p.m.
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Some people just don't get sarcasm.
May 3, 2012 at 3:51 p.m.
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"Joe_McC
May 3, 2012 at 1 p.m.
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Is the mobile restaurant required to provide rest rooms for their customers? And are they handicap accessible?"
yes you roll up to the window.
Poop at home!
May 3, 2012 at 3:25 p.m.
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I have been frequenting Los Agaves about once a week for the last few months. Normally have lunch there. In fact I went today and they acknowledged the increase due to the story in the Gazette. I had noted their trucks parked in their parking lots at off times and wondered where they went. I spent about 25 years living in California and the "roach coachs" were prevalent in factory and construction areas. They do a great service and for those intimidated, all I can say is step up to the plate with a better product and you'll survive. Whining and sitting on your hands fretting will get you nothing. Leave them alone, they apparently have done everything properly. Good competition is great for all of us consumers!
May 3, 2012 at 3:24 p.m.
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Notice how run down the town looks...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLoSI1mY3...
May 3, 2012 at 2:40 p.m.
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I like how "local business owners" are complaining, but only a Junction Pub bartender is quoted. Is anybody else really complaining or is Russ just saying that?
May 3, 2012 at 2:33 p.m.
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We have a Taco Truck in Beloit....parks in the same place Monday-Friday and is always present at our Farmer's Markets in the summer. Taco's Gonzalez is the name. And yes, I am not afraid to admit my favorite restaurant is on wheels :)
May 3, 2012 at 2:18 p.m.
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maybe if miltons food didnt SUCK like their ATTITUDES people would want to eat their resturants,im all for this taco truck! they are the only place ill eat at in milton! in my opinion the taco truck and a-1 used computers are the best things to ever happen to milton!! get your computer fixed while eating a taco, what could get any better??!!
May 3, 2012 at 2:06 p.m.
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I think the news is going to make it worse for the local Merchant Row business complainers than doing any good. Nothing but putting sour taste into their (Merchant Row businesses) own mouths. This whole topic seems to center around good advertising for Los Agaves. Keep on truckin'!
May 3, 2012 at 2:03 p.m.
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Joe McC:
To answer your question about health code compliance checks:
Yes, the state does on-site inspections of mobile food vendors. Los Agaves' mobile food stands last had a health department check in 2011, and they're due for another check soon, said Wisconsin Department of Health Services spokeswoman Beth Kaplan.
Neil Johnson, reporter
The Gazette
May 3, 2012 at 1:25 p.m.
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Ezoner - SAWWWWWWEEEEEEEEET!!!
May 3, 2012 at 1:10 p.m.
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Are there tax law differences between a mobile and stationary business? Does mobile Los Agaves have to keep track of each individual sale in order to determine county sales tax owed?
May 3, 2012 at 1 p.m.
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Is the mobile restaurant required to provide rest rooms for their customers? And are they handicap accessible?
May 3, 2012 at 12:54 p.m.
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tloudon7992, I never said I "live" in Delavan. I in fact live in Janesville (although sometimes I wish I did not because truth is, Janesville is not much better) but I gladly drive to Delavan to get authentic Mexican food when the hunger strikes. And no I am no of Spanish decendents but boy they sure can cook. But word of advise, do not put too much of that green hot sauce on your plate unless you know what you are getting into. WOW! I like hot and spicy but holy cow that stuff will blow holes in the toes of your socks.
May 3, 2012 at 12:43 p.m.
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seems like the business owners are afraid of a little friendly competition...maybe they should serve mexican food, too ;)
May 3, 2012 at 12:42 p.m.
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Just checked the truck, longest line they have had yet. Good job whinners.
May 3, 2012 at 12:38 p.m.
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Figures -- Fear wants to raise the taxes on them -- he sees success and just wants to know how he can get a bigger bite of the profits for the government to waste...... Not... They are following the rules -- leave them alone. If the business is successful -- maybe we will see a brat truck running around selling cheese curds as a side.
May 3, 2012 at 12:30 p.m.
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Is the mobile restaurant subject to health inspections as are stationary restaurants?
May 3, 2012 at 12:30 p.m.
May 3, 2012 at 12:25 p.m.
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This is really funny. Everyone is talking about "tacos". Why not try something that you cannot pronounce let alone re-spell. Like I said earlier, I visit Los Agaves quite often in Delavan and I usually order something that I have no idea what it is because I cannot translate the menu and I have never ever been disappointed in what I recieved. Tacos and Burritos are just to common and too often found in fast food so called Mexican restaurants in a torcherd version of what they are trying to create. Do not judge the Mexican restaurant on just a taco. Anyone can make a taco. Let Taco Bell try to throw together a real Fahitas one time. FAILURE! Now, if I want "tacos" I might as well go to Taco Johns and get thier version and granted I will be totally unsatisfied. Same with the oriental restaurants. Why order the "safe" food when you can try the real thing? It would be like foregners coming to this country to try a hot dog.
May 3, 2012 at 12:04 p.m.
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Atlas Shrugs scenario??
May 3, 2012 at 11:42 a.m.
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Cool idea. Aren't there more than one Restaurants in Merchant row area?????? Guess you all better close but one. What ever!
So I bet if they had a hairnet you couldn't see it anyway.
As far as property tax- you need property!
A van depreciates and it not a brick and mortar building. You want him to pay the same tax on a $15,000 ish van or so as you pay on a 4000 plus sq ft building???
"cruiser
May 3, 2012 at 8:20 a.m.
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I personally wish the taco truck would come to Janesville's south side,(no taco place there yet)or even downtown. OR I GUESS I'LL BE TAKING A TRIP TO MILTON SOON TO GET TACO'S!!!"
El Jardin isn't close enough for you???
I guess you mean a quick place like Taco Bell? El Jardin is pretty quick and cheap for lunch. free soup with your lunch.
May 3, 2012 at 11:08 a.m.
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What do other cities do (and when will the truck be in Janesville)? The municipality that issues the permit to sell should perhaps consider a sales tax that applies to mobile vending so that local businesses can't argue the unfairness of property taxes (which is a valid point).
In many countries and bigger cities (like Madison), street vendors abound. Why not here if the traffic will bear it? Perhaps then we will get a chance to try some real food from around the world - the kind that small communities do not support in significant numbers to properly fund a fixed restaurant (I'm thinking of the loss that Nee's Taste of Thai was to Janesville).
Kudos to these guys and their truck for their initiative! I hope to try their product one day - I expect it's far better than the nation chain "Mexican" (loosely defined) fast food restaurants sprinkled around town (it couldn't be worst, now could it?).
May 3, 2012 at 10:32 a.m.
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Oh no I'm going to go out of business over a few taco sales , or is the truth your jealous because the taco vendor can leave Milton and your stuck there with your sorry life .
May 3, 2012 at 10:32 a.m.
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It is called free enterprise people! If they want a burger they will walk right past the taco truck to come into your restaraunt for a burger! Let it be
May 3, 2012 at 9:50 a.m.
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Maybe they are just former school teachers that were laid off and are trying to find a way to get by....just sayin
May 3, 2012 at 9:44 a.m.
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First of all I do not understand what the problem is with the local restaurants. Do they offer authentic Mexican food? If someone does not want Mexican food then they will go to the standard diners in town. If someone wants Mexican they can go to the mobile food vendor or drive somewhere else to get it. It just sounds like a bunch of cry babies and they need to learn how to spend more time promoting thier own business and quit worrying about a business that offers a totally different choice in its menu. And also, my wife and I quite often drive all the way to Delavan just to go to Los Agaves for thier Mexican food. They serve some very good food. If we want regular American diner type food we eat locally. I can tell you this though, the way I feel about it, if the restaurants in Milton want to act this way about it, I will not eat at their restaurants either. They are just being hypocritical cry babies.
May 3, 2012 at 9:41 a.m.
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Have they called the INS?
What if the truck was called "World Fare" and was based out of somewhere like Cambridge? Would the very intelligent and open minded dive bars have a problem with that?
May 3, 2012 at 9:30 a.m.
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What a bunch of mean-spirited, small-town ham-and-eggers! I bet if they were locals they'd be all for it.
May 3, 2012 at 9:22 a.m.
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Sounds like a bunch of whinning local boys to me. Someone came in with a new idea and they have been sitting back -- thinking they had a sure thing..... Good comments by all supporting this. The detractors should step back and think. This is innovative for a small town approach. Great idea.
May 3, 2012 at 9 a.m.
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Guess no one remembers the hot dog truck that would show up in Newville back in the 70's......the Newville Drive Inn and Red Apple didn't have a problem staying open and busy.
Like someone else said maybe if all those bars downtown actually served something other than prepackaged food and stop saying "I can't do this or I can't do that", there may be a draw to Milton. Sorry but Junction Pub's food is nothing out of the ordinary.
The Mexican Restaurant in Edgerton is doing well because they have great service and AWESOME food.
I say let the guy sell his food out of a truck....he's not hurting anyone and it's not like he's there all day and night, seven days a week.
May 3, 2012 at 8:41 a.m.
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kangaroojack - Junction Pub would be for starters. A bartender complains! . . . Not a bar owner??
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I don't have a problem with it as long as they have followed health codes and local permit requirements. Some people only have 1/2 hour for lunch and getting in and out of restaurants can run over that time.
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And, who wants to go to a tavern for food when you might get a bartender with a superior attitude who acts like they own the place and casually ignores you while catering to all the regular day-time drinkers? (JP)
May 3, 2012 at 8:29 a.m.
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Wow, you really had me going there for a second, Janesvillan. Until doing a double-take on your username, I thought someone might have gotten the central planning kicked out of them!
May 3, 2012 at 8:24 a.m.
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Free market lives, even with liberals. It is funny SarahB1 and I agree. I told her before she was a closet Republican. Step aside Government, don't be too big for the little guy to fail.
May 3, 2012 at 8:21 a.m.
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These trucks are all over Manhattan, around the boroughs, and Jersey too. Springsteen: "I done my best to live the right way. I get up in the morning and go to work each daaay..."
The American way. It will be back. I will grab some good Mex on my way through. I ain't sitting down with the Communists.
May 3, 2012 at 8:20 a.m.
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I personally wish the taco truck would come to Janesville's south side,(no taco place there yet)or even downtown. OR I GUESS I'LL BE TAKING A TRIP TO MILTON SOON TO GET TACO'S!!!
May 3, 2012 at 8:08 a.m.
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With all the free publicity the line is going to be long today. I better get there early.
May 3, 2012 at 7:45 a.m.
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No soup for you, Milton!
May 3, 2012 at 7:15 a.m.
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Great going buisness owners of Milton you just provided great (Free) advertisment for Los Agaves! I'm packing the kids up and were headed to Milton tonight for dinner!!! Can't wait!!! Las Agaves is welcome to come to Janesville!!!
May 3, 2012 at 7:03 a.m.
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Wasn't this what the last episode of 'Bob's Burgers' was about on Sunday?
Too funny!!
May 3, 2012 at 6:52 a.m.
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You've got to be kidding me that local businesses want to raise fees just because of one new player? Can you say "Waaaah"? What happened to the free market and competition? I say it's great to see a new face in town, and hope Los Agaves does well. Small towns need more choices for food!
May 3, 2012 at 6:05 a.m.
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If Milton *City Fathers* raise rates on the taco truck in any way.
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I will not eat at a Milton restraunt (exept the taco truck) until I have spent out of town, an amount of money equal to the amount of additional fees added to the taco truck annualy.
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This whole conversation makes me want to eat Mexican and skip any other offering nearby.
May 3, 2012 at 3:51 a.m.
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Does anyone in Milton think that people are not sick of eating at your 3 restaurants that you have. Burger King, Subway, and the pizza shop. Change is good and add some variety to your sleepy little town. Towns grow from variety and change. Come on people.
May 3, 2012 at 3:08 a.m.
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Most people from milton are snobs lol and your mad cuz someone else is doing this and it isnt one of your clicky friends lol.bring that truck to janesville in the downtown area please.ill be the first in line yumm.and give those people in milton a big block of cheese to go with that whine bahahahaha
May 3, 2012 at 2:02 a.m.
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Hkwnd, they DO have a permit from Milton. All it is, is just a number of restaurant owners whining. Personally I dont like mexican food.
I'd like to know which restaurants are whining. Would be nice to make a list of places NOT to go.
May 3, 2012 at 12:46 a.m.
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These trucks have been operating in southern states and California for at least forty years. I ate food from a lot of them over the years, and even though they were (jokingly) called "roach coachs", the food was fresh, well prepared, and cheap.
I'm thinking of taking a drive to Milton tomorrow for some Mexican treats.
May 3, 2012 at 12:20 a.m.
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It is odd if there wasn't some kind of an agreement with the city of Milton to begin with.Just like I suppose the gazette doesn't have all the info here either but if that were in Janesville with out a permit I don't think that they would be there for very long.
I have seen this type of vending in many locations throughout the united states,especially in the lots of warehouses.
They start out doing a real good business.It always seems as though the city leaders allow them to go ahead an operate for a time before they start to regulate how the thing should be operated,but when they do regulate a vendor like this,they don't regulate by way that they regulate local with safety inspectors and taxes,they regulate this sort of business be way of actions and language.Most people end up blaming the vendor for this but it is really the city in how they regulate it as though it has to be under the acting guild more than the normal food industries regs.
It just becomes another big soap opera for the poltitics.
May 2, 2012 at 11:34 p.m.
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Call Generac on Newcomb St in Whitewater and ask if you can sell at 2nd shift !!!, Have food made up before hand and you would make a killin 2nd shift breaks are at 5 pm and 8pm Rocky Rococo pizza and Cousins Subs both sell at dif days through the week .
May 2, 2012 at 11:21 p.m.
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Yeah Bill, Lower the property tax, so we can lay off even MORE teachers. Brilliant line of thinking! All so a taco truck doesnt have to pay as much. Guess what, if they are so successful 500 bucks should be a small price to pay. They cleared 3 times that from this article alone.
All this is a moot point, as soon as the bypass is ready Milton will be Radiator Springs anyways.
May 2, 2012 at 11:20 p.m.
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Typical Rock County small-time thinking here. When someone succeeds, people try to get in on the action. My kids and I will be taking a trip to Milton this weekend just to eat at this taco truck. I'm gonna tell them that Russ O'Leary sent me.
May 2, 2012 at 11:06 p.m.
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Dear Los Agaves, Please come to Janesville's East Side. Thank you.
May 2, 2012 at 10:22 p.m.
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Step up your game milton!! and Stop Complaining!!Los Agaves has delicious food, if you haven't tried it yet, you must come to DELAVAN!! or stop by their truck! Authentic mexican food and reasonably priced!! I eat there once a week! I wish them the best, the owners are hard working people; they are expanding their business, follwing the rules, end of story. Kudos to them!!!
May 2, 2012 at 10:19 p.m.
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Los Agaves has had a mobile food truck in Whitewater for a couple of years with no issues. The food is good, and people love it. First Milton targets a gas station owned by a MIDDLE-EASTERN man because somehow him spending money to upgrade his beer cooler and stay open later than other alcohol serving entities was "unfair" to the other businesses, and now Milton is targeting a food stand owned by MEXICAN folks. Hmmm....
May 2, 2012 at 10:12 p.m.
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I'm tired of having to drive to Chicago for good food, period!
May 2, 2012 at 10:10 p.m.
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Get over it Milton restaurant owners. Or should we make all restaurant owners and food trucks charge the same amount for food, just like we do with the gas stations with gasoline prices.
May 2, 2012 at 10:06 p.m.
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When is Milton going to formally announce that they are a communist community?
May 2, 2012 at 9:25 p.m.
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"Plus, O'Leary argued, unlike bricks-and-mortar restaurants in Milton, Los Agaves' doesn't pay property taxes for its mobile truck."
Interesting statement! Since Los Agaves doesn't pay property taxes in Milton, although they most likely do in Delavan, that represents an unfair advantage for Los Agaves in Milton. So of course, the knee jerk reaction is to raise the fee (i.e. tax) to level the playing field.
I've got a better idea. Why doesn't Milton find a way to lower the property tax. Then, Milton businesses would have an advantage over businesses in other communities leading to new business growth, higher employment and eventually, higher tax revenue from all those new businesses that build in Milton. That could even work in Janesville too!
Nahhhh, that would never sell here in "forward" thinking Rock County!
May 2, 2012 at 9:19 p.m.
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Does this truck consume less energy than a building would serving food? Maybe we should tax the building owners more for polluting more.
May 2, 2012 at 9:18 p.m.
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vatoloco, touche'
May 2, 2012 at 9:01 p.m.
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vataloco wrote, "
shut this article down there is nothing to argue here anymore..."
All you do is argue. What an odd statement! LOL
May 2, 2012 at 9 p.m.
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That Los Agaves food truck has wonderful food. Reasonable prices, always hot, orders correct, and they are very friendly. I would suggest everyone to try them out when you are thinking of Mexican food. We surely do not drive up to Milton to dine on Macdonalds or Burger King. I would think the local businesses would be far more upset over the future Highway 26 bypass than over a single taco truck. Dont the Milton businesses understand that once the new bypass is complete all that highway traffic will be funneled right around Milton and they will lose all that potential business? Just like how you even forget Fort Atkinson or Jefferson even exist anymore. That should be a much bigger concern over a single taco truck.
May 2, 2012 at 8:59 p.m.
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Seriously Milton. Can we be a little bit more forward thinking? A far as I know none of the restaurants in this town serve authentic Mexican food so who cares if they are in Milton selling food from a truck? They followed the rules, got their permit, yet the higher than thou mentality in this town harasses them with a "sour reception." I remember when the town was up in arms over Hardee's coming to town...oh and don't forget the stop light...the travesty! Wait until we get that hotel they're talking about getting! Thanks for the article though. Didn't know it existed until reading this. Guess what we're having for dinner tomorrow nite?
May 2, 2012 at 8:44 p.m.
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chp16a95: OMG I forgot all about that controversy...yeah Mc D's originally wanted to come in but the city decided no but did eventualy said yes to the Hardees which did not last that long.
May 2, 2012 at 8:13 p.m.
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I think this thing needs to come to Janesville.
May 2, 2012 at 8:12 p.m.
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Portillo's ROCKS!!! Would love to see one in Southern Wisconsin. Tired of having to drive to Chicago for a good Italian Beef.
May 2, 2012 at 8:10 p.m.
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You have got to be kidding me? These types of trucks are common in the Metro areas. It's NOT a new concept folks. And quite frankly Los Agaves has great food both in the Whitewater truck and at the Delavan restaurant. The people are clean, kind, and caring. They value and pride themselves on customer service. And again, the food is GOOD! Authentic.
With that being said I send an open challenge to the restaurants in Milton (and my home town I must admit): Step it up. If your service and quality of food was half of what it was with Los Agaves we wouldn't be having this conversation. Welcome Los Agaves and I sincerely hope you profit as a small business in Milton!
Remember it was less than 25 years ago Milton was having an argument about whether or not a Hardee's would fit the Milton landscape...
May 2, 2012 at 8:02 p.m.
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One word:
Portillo's
'nuf said.
May 2, 2012 at 7:17 p.m.
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can't be any worse than taco hell.. they would make a killing at bartime down there.
May 2, 2012 at 7:10 p.m.
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Despite the fact that several places in Whitewater offer Mexican food they haven't put anyone out of business. I doubt they'll do that in Milton. No one is going to go there if they want a hamburger, pizza, chinese or anything other than Mexican food. Considering no one else offers that in Milton they give the consumer an additional option.
May 2, 2012 at 7:04 p.m.
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If these restaurants in Milton can't suck it up and deal with the "unfair" competition, maybe it's time to find a new line of work. Here we have business owners asking for more regulation and higher fees because they haven't had to deal with real competition in decades, and that's the moral of the story. Businesses ask for government and regulatory help when it suits them, then turn around and pretend it's all the Democrat's fault when it doesn't.
May 2, 2012 at 7:02 p.m.
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hey mouse you handing out cigarettes under the overpass again to bums for Obama votes...just want to which bridge your going to be under...troll
May 2, 2012 at 6:58 p.m.
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By the way this article and the news cast tonight made this stand swamped tonight...that just cracks me up
May 2, 2012 at 6:57 p.m.
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we really need a "mouse" trap...or is that for mouse to shut her trap
May 2, 2012 at 6:45 p.m.
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Go Agaves! Let, you know, the market take its course. Isn't that what well-heeled business proprietors usually say?
May 2, 2012 at 6:38 p.m.
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I say leave them alone the Milton busines owners are crying then sell better food than the truck and people will come in and eat it...not everyone wants to eat off a truck...some of us like to sit down...Milton needs to grow up and wake up...plus this truck is outside of the east school in the parking lot and the food is pretty good...so unless you want overpriced italian or burger king or want to eat in a bar I dont see what the problem is. Some of the restraunts in Milton are just plain old nasty inside and personally I will take my chances of the truck
May 2, 2012 at 6:05 p.m.
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A man sees a niche in the market. He fills that niche and the first reaction is to regulate him away.
Local restaurants call it unfair competition and call for regulation instead of .... well…. competing.
This article could have been slanted another way. The approach could have been to applaud the entrepreneur for finding a niche and portraying the local restaurants as using the government to run off competition.
May 2, 2012 at 5:42 p.m.
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Hasn't anyone watched "The Great Food Truck Race?" This isn't a new concept...
May 2, 2012 at 5:34 p.m.
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The words "better defined rules on where mobile food vendors can park and how close they can be to restaurants" is double speak for make the rules more difficult to operate one of these trucks profitably.
May 2, 2012 at 5:13 p.m.
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frusion, a Schwann's truck with frozen foods compared to this food truck with ready to eat items....apples and oranges. After looking at the second photo, my question is "where's the gloves and hairnets?? That's just gross and probably a health code violation.
May 2, 2012 at 5:08 p.m.
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Has anyone considered that this truck might be a test to see if the business is profitable/needed in Milton, before the owners decide to open a brick & mortar restaurant? Why try to restrict and limit someone who sees value in doing business in Milton. I rarely get to Milton unless it is for a dentist apt or to visit Dave's ACE (best customer service around) Having a taco truck like this might just be the encouragement to get me to stop in Milton more often...which then I would stay and shop at the gun store, the antique shop and the consignment shop...hmmm seems to me that would only increase Milton business traffic. Besides as far as I know of there are no Mexican brick & mortar restaurants in Milton, so where exactly is the competition going to be hurt so badly?
May 2, 2012 at 5:03 p.m.
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mespl, I don't think you have to get carried away with your extreme scenario. The truck is a novelty and it's not going to put anyone out of business that is a decent business now. No one is going to eat the mobile Mexican food everyday and especially in the winter. This is no different than the Schwann's truck driving around.
May 2, 2012 at 5 p.m.
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@mespl - I support all small businesses. Not just the ones in Milton. We have a tough economy and little extra money. If these businesses want my money then offer better food, more choices, etc. The exisiting establishments can't be mad and take their toys and go home when the sandbox gets full. Instead of wasting time complaining and trying to run the truck out of town, perhaps they should focus on their own products and how to better market their establishment and offer new, fresh choices. Is Cone Zone on High St going to complain about ice cream trucks crusing the streets? I doubt it.
May 2, 2012 at 4:52 p.m.
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Their food is great! I will be deffinately going back there in the near future. Great price for the quanity and quality of their meals. Sure beats the hell out of going to the same ol places that are located in milton everyday for lunch.
May 2, 2012 at 4:52 p.m.
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You’re right let’s abandon downtown all together, bulldoze all the buildings over and turn the whole thing into a giant parking lot. It would save money if everyone would just roll their trucks in every morning. Of course tax revenue would go down and there would be less money to spend on maintaining the parking lot but this is about competition right so let’s help encourage the existing businesses to join the mobile truck business, plus then when the parking lot gets bad enough due to lack of revenue to maintain the spots then they can just roll into Janesville. The brick and mortar businesses have made a commitment to the town of Milton and the surrounding community, let’s not forget that.
May 2, 2012 at 4:48 p.m.
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You Milton business owners are pissed at them because they came up with the idea before you did. It's called competition, live with it.
May 2, 2012 at 4:46 p.m.
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Abass80... well said!!
May 2, 2012 at 4:45 p.m.
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It isn't unfair competition, it's just competition.
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Nothing would stop Los Agaves from opening a restaurant right next door to any of them in Merchants Row, so what's the difference? As long as they are following all of the rules, this shouldn't be an issue. Changing the rules to increase the fees because some businesses don't like the competition would be unfair.
May 2, 2012 at 4:44 p.m.
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Sounds like the other business's are jealous. Go Tacos!!!
May 2, 2012 at 4:36 p.m.
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Los Agaves is great at their location in Delavan and the idea of having a mobile food truck in Milton is great. As long as they are following the rules of the permit then they should be able to park in public areas and sell their food items.
This is Milton. Any time something is new in Milton and it doesn't benefit the people who have been in town forever (Good Ol' Boys Club), then those people complain and look for ways to eliminate the threat. Los Agaves is a threat to Milton restaurants only because it gives people a choice on where to eat. OH MY GOODNESS! GIVING MILTON RESIDENTS A CHOICE?!?! Call out the city council and have them jack up the permit prices so high no one can afford it! How ignorant of Milton City Council, Milton business owners, etc.
Why not be happy to have a new choice in eateries and celebrate small business owners finding a niche? Be supportive and welcoming? Milton area bars mainly offer Sysco brand foods, frozen pizzas, and other junk at jacked up prices. Nothing remarkable and little marketing. We have Subway and Burger King then a few family or breakfast places that also have few remarkable items and poor marketing. The presence of another choice is long overdue. I applaude Los Agaves for their ingenuity, marketing, and I know their restaurant in Delavan has great food so I am sure the truck is good too. I hope they do well and hope to visit their truck soon. As far as Milton business owners go...quit crying and get better food, better marketing, better prices. You wanted your business, your way and you got it. Let these folks at Los Agaves have their business, their way and be a good sport and good fellow small business owner and support them! Milton City Council - stay out of it. The folks pay taxes, paid for the permit, and are bringing people into Milton that may otherwise not be in town. Those people will likely spend money at other businesses while they are in Milton.
May 2, 2012 at 4:30 p.m.
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Great Job Los Agaves! I'm hungry for a carne asada taco now!
May 2, 2012 at 4:08 p.m.
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Nothing is stopping the Milton restaurants from getting mobile trucks and doing the same thing. I give the taco truck people credit for expanding their business.
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