Rep. Paul Ryan's constituents like him where he is

By ASSOCIATED PRESS   Thursday, May 3, 2012
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House Budget Committee Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis. greets people during a campaign event for Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, at a Cousins Subs fast food restaurant, in Waukesha, Wis., Tuesday, April 3, 2012.

House Budget Committee Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis. greets people during a campaign event for Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, at a Cousins Subs fast food restaurant, in Waukesha, Wis., Tuesday, April 3, 2012.

— Many constituents in Congressman Paul Ryan's district said Thursday he would make a great vice presidential candidate if he gets tapped, but that he'd make more of a difference staying put and working on federal budget issues.

Ryan's name has come up as a potential running mate to presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, whom Ryan has endorsed, and the subject came up at his first listening session Thursday in Muskego. Ryan, R-Janesville, is holding six sessions Thursday and Friday.

"I appreciate what you are doing in Washington now and I really want you to stay with us here instead of going up on the hill as VP," said Hugh Hancock, 71, to a round of applause.

He followed the statement by asking a question about the nation's dependence on foreign oil. Ryan answered the question but didn't address the vice presidential comment.

Afterward, Hancock said Ryan's too valuable and is making a difference as chairman of the Republican-led House Budget Committee.

"I don't think he can be as effective as a vice president as he is in the House of Representatives," said Hancock, a retired mechanical engineer from the Town of Vernon. "He's doing such a great job here and the vice president goes to state funerals."

The 42-year-old Ryan has authored a budget that combines deep spending cuts in safety-net programs for the poor with an overhaul of Medicare and steep drops in tax rates. While the plan is doomed in the Democratic-controlled Senate, it sets out the GOP's fiscal priorities.

Ryan received a standing ovation from the 300 or so people when he arrived at the Muskego banquet hall Thursday morning. About the same number of people attended a session in Elkhorn, Ryan said in a phone interview afterward.

He said he's flattered that constituents want him to stay, and that it's too early for him to make a decision about whether he'd take the position.

"If it's something I need to seriously consider, along with my family and my wife and our family, then we'll do that but right now I'm focused on doing my job," he said.

Render Spencer and his wife Catherine, both 68 and of Muskego, also want to see Ryan stay in the House of Representatives.

"Paul Ryan is what I consider a financial genius," said Render Spencer, a retired biomedical engineer. "I would like to see him run the treasury and stay with the financial side of this because I think that's where our problem is."

Catherine Spencer, a retired bill collector, said it would be OK, though, if he became a vice presidential candidate. "We'll still support him," she said.

Keith Best, 58, a sales representative from Waukesha, said he could see Ryan in bigger positions.

"If he was tapped that would give him a chance to be president down the road," he said.

Ryan started the session by talking about the nation's debt and his budget proposal. Constituents also asked questions about defense spending, fixing the health insurance system, Israel possibly using force against Iran over nuclear weapons issues, Herman Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.

One man prodded Ryan on which Republican he supports for the U.S. Senate race to replace retiring U.S. Sen. Herb Kohl, a Democrat.

Former Gov. Tommy Thompson, ex-U.S. Rep. Mark Neumann, state Assembly Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald and hedge fund investor Eric Hovde all are vying for the GOP nomination.

Ryan said the party may make an endorsement at the state convention in Green Bay this month but he wasn't going to endorse anyone Thursday.

"They would all be an improvement," Ryan answered to laughter and applause. "That's your choice."

Voters will pick a nominee in an Aug. 14 primary election.

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Midnight_Ride
May 9, 2012 at 5:06 a.m.
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Oddly enough, not in France. Telling sign that the Obama administration and Democrats want to silence this news outlet as the share the same socialist ideals.

RetiredAirForce
May 8, 2012 at 11:29 p.m.
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tthompson
May 8, 2012 at 5:08 p.m.
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Why are peeps scared of Fox News?? Mostly because of the numbers that Midnight_ride shared and the fact that they are legally prohibited from broadcasting in Canada because they have a 'truth in broadcasting' law. We use to have such a law until Reagan repealed it.

kaysbrew
May 8, 2012 at 4:03 p.m.
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mouse
I told you that wine was for communion. Oh well, just happy to see you going to church.

Midnight_Ride
May 8, 2012 at 3:13 p.m.
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I feel the left hates Fox News because they have more viewers then CNN and MSNBC combined x2.
Rush Limbaugh's audience is bigger then it's ever been and the Left's Air America is gone.

This says more then any poll you will see about how this country feels about the tax and spend Democrats and the mountain of debt.

kaysbrew
May 8, 2012 at 6:05 a.m.
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Right RAF, like mouse never debates. But life would be boring without the good laughs they bring.

RetiredAirForce
May 8, 2012 at 1:06 a.m.
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I suspect GoodAmerican is just another of the many sock puppets, put forth by a very incapable person to debate ideas based on facts.

kaysbrew
May 7, 2012 at 2:26 p.m.
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New policy--I resolve to never answer another post by kaysbrew.

GA
Please mean one thing you say..

Say one thing, mean another. Mean one thing, do another. Do one thing, blame someone else.
Liberal is and liberal does.

kaysbrew
May 7, 2012 at 2:24 p.m.
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GoodAmerican
May 4, 2012 at 3:10 p.m.
back on Janusry 17th kaysbrew said to me "GA we're done."

Good American
as with most liberals, hyprocrisy dwells in your castle.
Posted on February 3 at 7:07 a.m. by you Good American
New policy--I resolve to never answer another post by kaysbrew.

Who's crawling back now????? My post was for that article as talking to you is seeing one removed by site staff after another and believe me, I was a bit surprised to see so many over the months. Yours says NEVER...

I'm irresistible. It's okay to say it outloud.

kaysbrew
May 7, 2012 at 2:23 p.m.
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GA
you seem to have enough for everyone.

kaysbrew
May 7, 2012 at 11:21 a.m.
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LOL- challenge GA in any way and you'll get a post that has to be removed by the site staff.

RetiredAirForce
May 7, 2012 at 4:01 a.m.
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GoodAmerican spoken like a proud liberal, pat yourself on the back!

poobah
May 6, 2012 at 6:10 p.m.
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Yes, you're so right GoodAmerican. That's one reason I said I would take what RetiredAirForce said at face value. But as is obvious from his displeasure, he expects to be treated differently than he treats people.

poobah
May 6, 2012 at 10:01 a.m.
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Just taking your comment at face value, RetiredAirForce. No spin! Off topic? You're the one who said it, I'm just quoting you.

RetiredAirForce
May 6, 2012 at 9:40 a.m.
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poo is that the best you can do? A shining example of your inability to discern sarcasm causes you to post the same thing in multiple comment sections?

TROLL: someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

poobah
May 6, 2012 at 9:04 a.m.
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Here is an example of another unhinged right wing fringe poster who thinks communist North Korea, communist China and communist Cuba are great countries.

RetiredAirForce said, "If you want a one party system you can visit the great countries that have them; old version USSR, China, North Korea, old version Libia, Cuba, or Venezuela"

RetiredAirForce
May 6, 2012 at 8:34 a.m.
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Here is an example of another unhinged left wing fringe poster. By posting this is still a free country they respond with a reply of "distorted views". Sad how these people have issues with people thinking our country is a free one.

RetiredAirForce
May 6, 2012 at 8:31 a.m.
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yada all things intelligent go over your head how exactly would you identify it?

yada
May 6, 2012 at 6:42 a.m.
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RAF - get a bigger shovel with your distorted views....lol YOUKILLME is correct! Please shock me RAF and say something intelligent.

yada
May 6, 2012 at 6:38 a.m.
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YOUKILLME - Once again thank you - your comments were so very true and it was good to see. The recent comments by Walker when he spoke at the NRA convention show how strange he is. He told them that big government was after him and he needed "HELP" & "SUPPORT" - In other words he was asking the NRA for more money.Walkers bumper sticker should read WI - The best State Money Can Buy - He believes that the majority of people at the madison rallies are all brought in by bus. Walker needs to look at the near one million signatures that want him out and / or leave the state now before the FBI John Doe probe is completed. Walker is the First governor in WI to set up a legal defense fund.

RetiredAirForce
May 6, 2012 at 5:48 a.m.
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Typical retort youkillme. Whenever some liberals can't argue based on the facts, they declare those they disagree with a synonym for hate, you used "despise". I think Warren can do anything he wants to, this is still a free country. I also have no problem identifying the false bravado put forth to push a political agenda with a faux argument. The fact is people like you copy and paste other peoples words but never lead by example in the ideas you do bring forth.

youkillme
May 5, 2012 at 5:38 p.m.
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Thank you, yada and sarahB. But I merely reposted what I picked off the web. I think there are many more misconceptions and mischaracterizations, deliberate I should add, from the establishment right and 1% that need to be repeatedly clarified.

yada
May 5, 2012 at 5:12 p.m.
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YOUKILLME - I agree with Sarah and thought your "WE ARE NOT..." post was awesome! Well done and congrats - thank you.

youkillme
May 5, 2012 at 3:43 p.m.
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Midnight_ride. You flatter me. But if you read some of my recent posts, you'll find I don't stand with the "taxed enough already" crowd at all on many fronts. For one, it is Republicans who signed the debt exploding Norquist "no tax - borrow only" pledge. Not Democrats. Yet, it is democrats who get bashed for making any fiscally responsible attempts to pay the bills. And, although I don't think democrats should unilaterally reject corporate money at this stage in the election game, they are the only party whose members have pushed for and promoted public campaign financing. Politicians who support that cause and promise to initiate that legislation automatically get my vote, even if they're taking corporate money now. This is the opposite of more trasparency. There is no reason for politicians to know where their campaign money came from other than from the public. Why would they want to know?

If the Tea Party agrees with me on those two ideas, then I'd welcome them to my club. Open you minds.

Midnight_Ride
May 5, 2012 at 3:27 p.m.
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youkillme
May 5, 2012 at 12:35 p.m.
Congratulations, you are a member of the TEA party. This is a Democrat problem as well only you can add unions to that mix in the corruption of politians. Your problem, like many others, don't believe this behavior is in the Democrat party. Unfortunately, more so then in the Republican party but you won't hear that in the media. You have to expand your horizons past face value.

youkillme
May 5, 2012 at 12:35 p.m.
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Typical class dividing demogoguery from the RAF. You clearly despise Warren Buffett or anyone who exposes the machine. So what else is new? But we're all in this together whether you like it or not. Unless you move to another country, you'll be coming along for the ride with the rest of us to help pay the nation's bills.

Here's something retrieved from the Web that should help some of the poor confused souls here understand what they don't understand.

We are not against the rich. We are against using wealth to gain an unfair advantage.

We are not against corporations. We are against corporations governing us.

We are not against capitalism. We are against corruption in capitalism.

We are not against banks. We are against fraudulent banking practices.

We are not against investment markets. We are against legalized fraud in the investment markets.

We are not against democracy. We are against the sale of influence by our democratically elected representatives.

analertcitizen
May 5, 2012 at 10:49 a.m.
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@oneday- Excellent post. Thanks.

onedayatatime
May 5, 2012 at 10:47 a.m.
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For all of you Republican small business owners. If Paul Ryan is truly representing the people why did he vote against HR 5297; Small Business Lending Fund and Tax Law Amendments?
A bill that establishes the Small Business Lending Fund to fund capital investments to financial institutions to provide loans to small businesses, establishes the Small Business Credit Initiative to fund state capital access programs for small businesses, and expands various tax deductions.
http://votesmart.org/bill/11816/32155/26...

He did vote yea for HR9: Provides Tax Cuts for Businesses With Fewer Than 500 Employees. He is willing to give small business tax breaks but he is not willing to go against the financial industry to make it easier for small business people to acquire funding.

Paul Ryan represents "BIG" business. His voting record proves he is not concerned with the problems facing the average American.
http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes...

analertcitizen
May 5, 2012 at 10:47 a.m.
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I thought this was funny:
Yahoo poll I found very interesting:
Is Paul Ryan a strong GOP VP pick?
Yes, he'll boost Romney's chances.
24%
No, he'll hurt Romney's chances.
22%
I don't know who he is.
54%

onedayatatime
May 5, 2012 at 9:48 a.m.
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From donnaw May 4, 2012 at 4:17 p.m. @baegucb....according to the African-American Forum whites make up over 50% of the population and make up, according to gov't statistics, 38.8 % of the welfare recipients. Blacks make up 39.8% of the population and make up 40% of the recipients. Hispanics make up 15.7% of the population and make up 15% of the welfare rolls. So your statement is misleading as a statistic.
These are the actual statistics from http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/...
White 38.8%
Black 37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian 2.8
Other 3.4

I prefer to use actual gov’t statistics rather than an opinion in a forum which does not cite sources. So let’s break down you post one sentence at a time:
“according to the African-American Forum whites make up over 50% of the population and make up, according to gov't statistics, 38.8 % of the welfare recipients.
Actual Statistics: White persons, percent, 2010 = 72.4% of US population.
The 38.8% is correct. According to the statistics, whites form the largest racial group on welfare
“Blacks make up 39.8% of the population and make up 40% of the recipients.”
Actual: Black persons, percent, 2010 = 12.6% of US population and 37.2 % of welfare recipients
Source. “U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Characteristics and Financial Condition of AFDC Recipients, Fiscal Year 1992 (Washington, D.C.: Government Printing Office, 1992); 1994 Green Book, p. 47.
“Hispanics make up 15.7% of the population and make up 15% of the welfare rolls.”
Actual: Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, percent, 2010 = 16.3% of US population and 17.8% of welfare recipients

Myth: People on welfare are usually black, teenage mothers who stay on ten years at a time.

Fact: Most welfare recipients are non-black, adult and on welfare less than two years at a time.

poobah
May 5, 2012 at 7:48 a.m.
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kaysbrew said, "they know when people live free and have back their self worth, they won't need to vote Democrat anymore.".

How very telling of a statement. "When people live free," and when they, "have back their stuff," they won't need Democrats. Of course, until then, they will need the Democrats. And why is that? Republicans aren't willing to help people escape from servitude into freedom and build a life of independence for themselves? When the minions of the economic elitists aren't guarding what they think, they can be quite profound.

gravitylens
May 5, 2012 at 7:43 a.m.
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Rep. Paul Ryan's supporters like him where he is

FTFY

kaysbrew
May 5, 2012 at 7:33 a.m.
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Our economy is capitalism and you hate that. I get it.

kaysbrew
May 5, 2012 at 7:32 a.m.
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I know what you said poohab. Liberals nonsense, facism.

kaysbrew
May 5, 2012 at 7:31 a.m.
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GoodAmerican
May 4, 2012 at 3:10 p.m.
back on Janusry 17th kaysbrew said to me "GA we're done."

Good American
as with most liberals, hyprocrisy dwells in your castle.
Posted on February 3 at 7:07 a.m. by you Good American
New policy--I resolve to never answer another post by kaysbrew.

Who's crawling back now????? My post was for that article as talking to you is seeing one removed by site staff after another and believe me, I was a bit surprised to see so many over the months. Yours says NEVER...

I'm irresistible. It's okay to say it outloud.

poobah
May 5, 2012 at 7:30 a.m.
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kaysbrew said, "Minions of the economy?"

No, slow down when reading, kaysbrew; it may improve your reading comprehension. I said, "minions of the economic elitists."

poobah
May 5, 2012 at 7:25 a.m.
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donnaw said, "i wasn't wrong but you go ahead and believe whatever you want."

When you changed a word in the article you quoted, and completely altered the meaning of the sentence, you were wrong. Changing words in articles for any reason, but particularly so the article suits your needs, is unethical.

kaysbrew
May 5, 2012 at 7:24 a.m.
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Minions of the economy? LOL Poo, you are too much. I suppose you think public sector is the driving force of the economy? But who pays for the public sector?

poobah
May 5, 2012 at 7:16 a.m.
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kaysbrew said, "they know when people live free and have back their self worth, they won't need to vote Democrat anymore."

How very telling of a statement. "When people live free," and when they, "have back their stuff," they won't need Democrats. Of course, until then, they will need the Democrats. And why is that? Republicans aren't willing to help people escape from servitude into freedom and build a life of independence for themselves? When the minions of the economic elitists aren't guarding what they think, they can be quite profound.

kaysbrew
May 5, 2012 at 7:07 a.m.
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Right on donnaw!

donnaw
May 5, 2012 at 7:02 a.m.
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poo. I wasn't wrong but you go ahead and believe whatever you want. You have a tender ego and must never be proved wrong, in your small mind. "Liberals are like vampires. Shine a little light on them and they shrink away."

kaysbrew
May 5, 2012 at 6:56 a.m.
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Liberals have been killing people's spirit for years and the statisical facts that 2011 under Barak Hussain Obama was the worst in 52 years of keeping records for the highest rate of poverty. So much for liberalism.

kaysbrew
May 5, 2012 at 6:54 a.m.
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LincolnTruman
what planet do you come from to think Paul Ryan is rich? Reid, Kerry, Pelosi, Edwards are rich and they don't care about the poor and needy either. Like LBJ, they are about voters. Keep the down down and depressed and needy. Paul Ryan and the GOP have plans to reform programs so they are still there for people in temporary need and not permanent dependency.
Liberals wantto lie to people like you and hope you echo the lie that Republicans hate old people blah blah because they know when people live free and have back their self worth, they won't need to vote Democrat anymore.

poobah
May 5, 2012 at 6:49 a.m.
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RAF said, "The fact is Warren, Obama, and even you can pay more taxes at any time if any of you really wanted to."

LincolnTruman said, "RAF, What you stated is not true. People can't pay more in taxes than they legally owe."

RAF is wrong; LincolnTruman is right. From the site YOU just provided, RetiredAirForce:

"Welcome to the United States Treasury's site for making donations to help reduce the public debt. If you would like to make a donation, please fill in the required fields and click the Submit Data button when completed."

DONATIONS, not more taxes.

kaysbrew
May 5, 2012 at 6:47 a.m.
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yada
HEARMYVOICE - Thank you for the intelligent comments directed towards RAF, Wilady, Kaysbrew, and a few others. You have spoken the truth from your heart my friend.

yadayadayada and harmingvoice,
I am not surprised for a liberal to think a racist rant is speaking the truth. I am conservative but you have no idea what race I am. Like Elizabeth Warren "all Native Americans have high check bone"? All blacks betray their race because we vote republican or all hispanics want the dream act? You like the post that paints all people with a broad brush. Shame on you for every time a liberal such as yourself opened their yap, your prejudice comes out.
There are a lot more conservative minority then you think if you step outside your liberal bubble and look around you.

poobah
May 5, 2012 at 6:32 a.m.
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donnaw, your reply is a pretty typical response from someone that got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. You were trying to make up your own facts by changing a word in an article you misquoted and I caught you at it. No need to be bitter about it; just apologize to the author and move on.

donnaw
May 5, 2012 at 6:17 a.m.
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poo. You are so biased that the facts mean nothing to you. Why bother having any discussion with you.

yada
May 5, 2012 at 5:53 a.m.
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HEARMYVOICE - Thank you for the intelligent comments directed towards RAF, Wilady, Kaysbrew, and a few others. You have spoken the truth from your heart my friend.

RetiredAirForce
May 5, 2012 at 3:56 a.m.
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"I look and work for the day , that we have our own Nuremberg tribunals that mete justice against these monsters that so shame the good that this nation once represented."
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Wow, the same spelling habits, rhetoric, and fear peddling...speaking of fear........

RetiredAirForce
May 5, 2012 at 3:54 a.m.
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Another twisted false tale by a left fringe poster "What you stated is not true. People can't pay more in taxes than they legally owe"
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Here you go...donate away.

https://www.pay.gov/paygov/forms/formIns...

But but but but, where do taxes go. You can always pay more, yet not ONE person that wants others to pay higher taxes ever steps up to lead by example.

RetiredAirForce
May 5, 2012 at 1:36 a.m.
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Typical retort youkillme. Whenever some liberals can't argue based on the facts, they declare those they disagree with "hate". I think Warren can do anything he wants to, this is still a free country. I also have no problem identifying the false bravado put forth to push a political agenda with a faux argument. The fact is Warren, Obama, and even you can pay more taxes at any time if any of you really wanted to. Claiming any of you "want" to, but not until others do it, is nothing less than more of the same in this game of class warfare; the only thing missing is the term fairness.

youkillme
May 5, 2012 at 1 a.m.
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Ha-ha-ha. RAF. Your hate for Warren is high. I hope Warren uses every single exemption, tax shelter and "legal right" loophole he can find to avoid paying taxes - just like everyone else. I want the Left and Right to track his every move so they can expose all those shortcuts Big Corpse fought for and bought politicians with. You call that hypocrisy? Great! Call it anything you want. That is beyond laughable. I hope he hires a battery of lawyers just the good ol' boys do and wins!! Please Warren expose the sold-out politicians and their fraudulent tax policies and laugh your way to the bank. Make the people rage against the Big Corpse machine!

howardzinnfan
May 5, 2012 at 12:50 a.m.
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He is willing do to so, as long as there is a level playing field. There may be some level of hipocracy, but, if there is no level playing field then true capitalism based on competition breaks down.

RetiredAirForce
May 5, 2012 at 12:41 a.m.
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A good laugh of the day came from faux LincolnTrumman stating Warren Buffet wants to benefit society and help others. This is beyond laughable. He has become the poster boy for many on the left that want taxes raised, just for some people. Warren pretends he wants to pay more taxes while he exercises his legal rights to arrange his finances to avoid doing the same thing; hypocrisy. In addition his own company owes the US over a billion in back taxes; ironically he is leading the fight to keep this from happening. As a typical left wing sock puppet, he leads the charge on wanting others to do something he himself in no way wants to or will do on his own.

RetiredAirForce
May 5, 2012 at 12:25 a.m.
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GoodAmerican stated "You said that I advocated for a one-party system"
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Huh? I said "A little hint for you...it's called a two-party system for a reason. They make the rules. If you want a one party system you can visit...". What were your ignorant remarks again on reading ability and lies?

howardzinnfan
May 4, 2012 at 11:33 p.m.
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And to your 10:40 comment. Please enlighten us and describe what "liberal values" are as they pertain to family values.

howardzinnfan
May 4, 2012 at 11:29 p.m.
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When will the Gazette stop allowing this racist buffoon vatoloco from posting?

10:27 comment is outrageous!

poobah
May 4, 2012 at 4:23 p.m.
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donnaw, I didn't miss any of your quotes. I read all of your comment and all of Right Black's article. I also didn't miss your misquote of his article.

And you are again mis-characterizing what he said for the second time. When he said, "They voted and still vote to keep government handouts going because it is easier than arguing with those who won’t work or taking care of those who can’t," he never mentions Republicans or Democrats. So for you to suggest this was another way of him stating Republicans were still offering a hand up is in direct conflict with what he actually wrote and what you had misquoted.

I never called your original statement or Right Black's article racist. I don't know why you would suggest that someone pointing out the problems with your misquote and that the use of a statement by a black person could provide unconfutable justification for your statement could be considered racist.

donnaw
May 4, 2012 at 4:17 p.m.
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baegucb....according to the African-American Forum whites make up over 50% of the population and make up, according to gov't statistics, 38.8 % of the welfare recipients. Blacks make up 39.8% of the population and make up 40% of the recipients. Hispanics make up 15.7% of the population and make up 15% of the welfare rolls. So your statement is misleading as a statistic.

LibertyBelle
May 4, 2012 at 3:46 p.m.
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I would apply this last statement to Good American.
Just because you resort to bullying and taughting doesn't make you right. As a matter of fact, it makes you very left.
And yea, you sound like mouse to me too.
SarahB1, what have you done with concernedperson? Did you retire her as you finally got a job?
I was just wondering.

LibertyBelle
May 4, 2012 at 3:41 p.m.
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SarahB1
May 4, 2012 at 3 p.m. kaysbrew/libertybelle/whomever:
What did I do?? I'm minding my own business, kicking back on a Friday Night and Bam, another verbal tongue lashing from the left.
Just because I don't comment anymore except to protect mouse from herself doesn't mean I'm not fully entertained by the left's lack of knowledge on all subjects. Just because you resort to bullying and taughting doesn't make you right. As a matter of fact, it makes you very left. I discovered a while ago getting abused by people that sit on this site all day is their problem, not mine.

donnaw
May 4, 2012 at 3:41 p.m.
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Poo.. Did you miss the quote "they voted and STILL vote to keep government handouts going....."? So it is ongoing. And I quoted Black because he expressed my thoughts more succinctly than I did previously. Are you being racist thinking a Black person couldn't possibly agree with me.

youkillme
May 4, 2012 at 3:31 p.m.
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Good American, I'm okay with midnight's psychotic projections, twisted logic and baseless attacks. If it actually made some sense, only then would I have something challenging to reciprocate on. I'm sure it feels content about its sense of reality and I'm much too positive a person to rain on somebody's parade.

Midnight_Ride
May 4, 2012 at 3:14 p.m.
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Perhaps, next time you are able to find it.

Midnight_Ride
May 4, 2012 at 3:12 p.m.
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youkillme, sorry for your inability.

poobah
May 4, 2012 at 3:11 p.m.
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donnaw, I have two problems with your May 4, 2012 at 12:58 p.m. comment.

The first problem is that you misquoted what Right Black actually wrote and it significantly changes the meaning of the sentence. He wrote, "Republicans kept offering a hand up and Democrats a handout." You quoted him as having written, "Republicans keep offering a hand up and Democrats a hand out." He was obviously talking about some point in the past with his choice of the word "kept." Your misquote changed "kept" to "keep" and the change in tense completely alters the meaning of the sentence. [ http://rightblack.hubpages.com/hub/Why-D... ]

The second problem is that you quote a black person whose statement is similar to your statement, thinking that quoting a black person somehow justifies your statement. The attempt to justify your statement by using the statement of a black person relies on the idea that black people are incapable of agreeing with statements that discriminate against black people. An idea that, of course, is not accurate.

youkillme
May 4, 2012 at 3:10 p.m.
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midnight_ride, why would I point out your delusions? They're real to you and I prefer you keep them that way.

Midnight_Ride
May 4, 2012 at 2:59 p.m.
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youkillme, please explain the false statement I've made as you claim and I do apologize for your hyprocrisy. I should not continue to point them out.

Midnight_Ride
May 4, 2012 at 2:57 p.m.
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Good American, I don't respond to mouse as he is too uninformed and you have proven to be without much knowledge as well. Thank you for wanting to continue to lash out at me with your mouse like comments, however, pass.

youkillme
May 4, 2012 at 2:56 p.m.
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Midnight_ride makes up false equivalencies, uses twisted logic and then calls the other side hypocrites if they don't see the same delusions. Is that you paulie?

Midnight_Ride
May 4, 2012 at 2:54 p.m.
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Perhaps Paul Ryan was actually drinking wine from Pelosi's vineyards?

Erase description of the left when they try to say something without full knowledge of their own party.

Midnight_Ride
May 4, 2012 at 2:47 p.m.
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Perhaps Paul Ryan was actually drinking wine from Pelosi's vineyards?
Hyprocrites.

Midnight_Ride
May 4, 2012 at 2:46 p.m.
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LincolnTruman
May 4, 2012 at 2:43 p.m.
I'm rich, therefore I'm right ...
Does that hold true for Pelosi?

Midnight_Ride
May 4, 2012 at 2:45 p.m.
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Good American, I said your work because I expected you to be able to back up your statement with a concrete link. I must say your latest comments are very mouse like in the complete lack of civility and lashing out in a childish manner. Therefore, our conversation is finished as well.

kaysbrew
May 4, 2012 at 2:25 p.m.
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I'm so grateful for you mouse/GA - you have just made my day. Have a great weekend.

kaysbrew
May 4, 2012 at 2:23 p.m.
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GoodAmerican
May 4, 2012 at 1:39 p.m.
But, bowlgal, I do think you're right about Ryan. I think he is a rock star. He's a lot like Ozzie Osbourne. Drinking expensive wine.

JEEZ MOUSE/GA - IT WAS JUST AN HOUR AGO.

LOLOLOL

kaysbrew
May 4, 2012 at 2:14 p.m.
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the only other person obsessed with Ryan and wine is mouse as I caught you weeks ago GA answering to a mouse post.
GA - caught again..

pull........I'M NOT MOUSE, I'M GOOD AMERICAN.

kaysbrew
May 4, 2012 at 2:10 p.m.
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LOLOL GA
You quote an out of text commercial from a network only 300,000 people watch and tell bowlgal to follow the link that MR had to provide to prove you wrong.
I love liberals. First to cry Prove IT and last to back up what they say.
GOP isn't going any where my friend. Keep dreaming!
Ryan is Ozzie and Obama is to snoop dog (delicious dog)

Bowlgal
May 4, 2012 at 1:30 p.m.
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Paul Ryan is a rock star! An economic rock star with an easy style of explanation. No warfare on class, race or religion. What a breathe of fresh air.

Good American, I recall seeing Rove say something as to what you are saying but it was a discussion of how the left perceives the right. My guess is your CNN is mis-leading you with out of context material.

Midnight_Ride
May 4, 2012 at 1:13 p.m.
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President Reagan was correct again. "Liberals know so much that isn't so".
Misguided, misinformed, mislead and misdirected.

Midnight_Ride
May 4, 2012 at 1:09 p.m.
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Good American
I've done your work for you, but I see Rove's vision of 2008 for 2010 and it appears to have come true by way of the "schlacking" the Democrats took in 2010.
I did not see one word of what you claim.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/20...

donnaw
May 4, 2012 at 12:58 p.m.
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Wow! All you libbies have your underwear in knots over my perspective. It's my opinion just as you express yours. So you think I am racist yet it's okay for Catholics to vote for a Catholic president just because he's Catholic and Blacks to vote for a Black president just because he's black?
"Why Do Blacks Vote Democrat"
"Republicans keep offering a hand up and Democrats a hand out. They voted and still vote to keep government handouts going because it is easier than arguing with those who won't work or taking care of those who can't. This syndrome that has affected all of our society and the Democratic party has solidified its base of those who want government to be responsible instead of being responsible themselves.". This was written by Right Black, who, by the way is Black.

Midnight_Ride
May 4, 2012 at 12:57 p.m.
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Good American, because you say so isn't good enough for me. I'd like the link please so I may reveiw for myself.
2010 Good American. If the quote was from 2008, it seems Mr. Rove was also caught up in Obamamania and under estimated this countries will to save her from tax and spend keynesians.
We are and always have been a center right country.

poobah
May 4, 2012 at 12:16 p.m.
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youkillme said to RetiredAirForce, "Or you can just stay where you are and enjoy one-party rule right here in the new version of Wisconsin. Fitzwalkerstan."

But, youkillme, RetiredAirForce has not yet declared Fitzwalkerstan to be GREAT like he declared communist North Korea to be a GREAT country. Frankly, I was surprised to see RetiredAirForce was still here chatting this morning. I expected that RetiredAirForce would have been in Pyongyang, complaining that he couldn't find a WiFi connection for his notebook computer.

youkillme
May 4, 2012 at 11:52 a.m.
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Union tax mongers. That's a new one - get real.

To all you right-wing Randing lunatics, how was your lecture this morning from Pope Paul? I'm sure you heard "country is in debt because we have a spending problem" at least a half-dozen times. LOL. He's so smart and sincere. Never mind that borrowing is the cause of debt, so we'll just sign a "no tax - borrow only" pledge to pay our bills and then use the debt as a fig leaf to rationalize draconian cuts to domestic priorities, which is what Republicans wanted to do all along.

That's it ...lap up Ryan's poisoned Kool-aid.

Midnight_Ride
May 4, 2012 at 11:47 a.m.
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Fitzwalkerstan vs Unionism tax mongers? June 5th coming to a polling place near you.

Midnight_Ride
May 4, 2012 at 11:45 a.m.
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Good American, I believe you need to submit the Rove quote and it's context for full review.
It seems you've mis-quoted.
I stand by my statement the 2010 elections is valid proof after Obamamania the GOP isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
It's the Democrats who have lost their way, going so far left into socialism, markism, keynesian policies, JFK would be considered Republican.

youkillme
May 4, 2012 at 11:18 a.m.
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RAF wrote -- "A little hint for you...it's called a two-party system for a reason. They make the rules. If you want a one party system you can visit the great countries that have them; old version USSR, China, North Korea, old version Libia, Cuba, or Venezuela [to name a few]."

Or you can just stay where you are and enjoy one-party rule right here in the new version of Wisconsin. Fitzwalkerstan.

RetiredAirForce
May 4, 2012 at 10:59 a.m.
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Thanks for making my point, good job.

garyprimer
May 4, 2012 at 10:51 a.m.
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Not you, the other guy.

garyprimer
May 4, 2012 at 10:50 a.m.
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That Metamucil seems to be working.
Maybe you should try backing down on the dosage.

hearmyvoice
May 4, 2012 at 10:48 a.m.
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To all of you that were so quick to attack donnaw for what you perceive as a raciest comment, I find it truly appalling that none of you fine folks had anything to say about the following post.

wiggle
May 3, 2012 at 8:54 p.m.

Donnaw - seriously?! I lived many years in AZ and CA. I have employed many hardworking Latinos and Blacks. They were actually better employee's than the Caucasians.
Where are your buddies RAF, Wislady, Fedup, kewsbrew? They abandoned you, typical, wouldn't you say? Repubs are all for themselves, instead of using their water to put out their neighbours 'fire on the stove' they close the blinds and take a bath.
GoodAmerican speaks the truth. 'Pure whites" are becoming the minority. Repubs are "old south prejudice", they will not survive much longer unless they start reproducing like the Duggars.
It may not be in our life time, but the future of America holds a time when mixed races out number "pure white, old south repubs". All I can say is Thank God! Maybe my great-great grandchildren will be able to raise their kids in a America I could be proud of, instead of having to deal with repubs and their ugliness!

AS a person of color from the south I find this comment offensive. To me racism is hate-filled beliefs fueled by ignorance.Which the above comment contained plenty.

RetiredAirForce
May 4, 2012 at 10:47 a.m.
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More leftist lies...."...has never seen any evidence that George Wallace and Lester Maddox and Bull Connor were racist."

When all else fails and the debate is lost just make crap up; pathetic.

RetiredAirForce
May 4, 2012 at 10:46 a.m.
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GoodAmerican speaking of dolts, you are the one that stated "In 8-12 years, there willbe no GOP anymore". If you have a problem with what you said than correct it. Until then your ignorant post is just that.

RetiredAirForce
May 4, 2012 at 10:43 a.m.
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How typical Sarah.

analertcitizen
May 4, 2012 at 10:30 a.m.
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@Lincolntruman- I agree with you about Ayn Rand's philosphy. I have only read Atlas Shrugged. She was a self-indulgent atheist who cared little about those around her unless they were espousing her theories. I prefer Steinbeck but both are merely authors telling a story.Let the far right hold her up as a model- it'll be their undoing someday.

spark
May 4, 2012 at 10:13 a.m.
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moderate1 - Is it really that hard for some to figure out why I point that out about the President? I am well aware it has been going on for the last 20 years regardless of the party. Therefore, when one posts an argument about a bottle of wine, how in the World can you use that as a debate, when you know very well the party you support is doing the same thing? Its is pure and utter hypocrisy and makes me laugh every time. If you want to debate, find something you know both sides aren't guilty of!
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As far as Ryan goes. He won't be beat this next election. Once again, his opponent won't gain the popularity to win. Just my opinion of course.

spark
May 4, 2012 at 8:40 a.m.
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yada - Boy, I sure hope you feel the same way about our President, except at a much larger scale. After all, he says we all need to sacrifice during these tough times. Hope you are as appalled at a White House birthday, halloween, Super Bowl parties and the list goes on as you STILL are at a bottle of wine. I mean, lets be fair here right?

yada
May 4, 2012 at 8:21 a.m.
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Get ready to tighten the belts and save save save - that is except for Mr. Ryan. He should set up a wine franchise store to sell those $350.00 dollar bottles of wine that he enjoyed at the Bistro Bis on Capital Hill. It is always nice to see someone that wants us to shrink spending and privatize Medicare---> go overboard on buying wine. $700.00 for 2 bottles of wine and he claims he did not know the price before --->I could never support someone willing to spend money like that on wine and then tell us to be more frugal, etc.

Ezoner
May 4, 2012 at 8:19 a.m.
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donnaw's comments are valid. However, I would have added unions, public employees, and academics to the same list. When you look at Democratic voters, they are normally in those categories demographically speaking. What they all seem to have in common are that they are the largest recipients of the government welfare state, to which I would would include public employees.

Now that doesnt mean that we dont have a need for some small level of government, but not to the extent that it exists today. When you think about it -- very few private employees would speak negatively about the company the work for publicly. Why ? Because, the public may not purchase their products, they would therefore not benefit (income, housing, food). If they are unhappy -- they simply leave and find another job. But those on public assistance, cant leave and why would they, there is little or no incentive. Why ?? The Dems dont want to provide them a means to change their path -- they might then lose a portion of their voting segment. In reality -- what the democrats do by issuing the public assistance Crack-- is promote a permanent under class and in fact they want that underclass to grow, its to their benefit. They can then justify the destruction of wealth and success until which all the wealth is concentrated at the government level and then they have all the power and all the money to do as they please.

mespl
May 4, 2012 at 7:52 a.m.
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Only the uninformed ones like him where he is. He wants to increase tax rates on the lower and middle class so that he can continue to lower taxes on the upper class. You might think that I am against this because I am upset that I would have to pay higher taxes under Ryan’s plan. Wrong I have checked the data my taxes would go down, it is people who make less than me who would be hurt. I care because those people are already struggling! Those people already spend almost all of their income on necessities. It is the upper-class that has extra money to sock away in tax havens which Ryan is all for! The lower classes pay a larger percentage of their income to taxes than the upper class.

tiredofhearingit
May 4, 2012 at 7:49 a.m.
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helge1939 - "If Mitt picks Ryan he wont get my vote" - Really?, overlooking the fact that Obama has that buffoon Biden - wow!

analertcitizen
May 4, 2012 at 7:45 a.m.
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RAF- This is enough for me to scream racism. "....govt handouts, a way of life and an expectation. Why would they bite the hand that feeds them?" And then he/she argues that that is the reason blacks and hispanics vote for Obama.
If donnaw had ever been out of the tri-county area, he/she might realize that most of the rest of the country doesn't agree with him/her.

RetiredAirForce
May 4, 2012 at 7:24 a.m.
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analertcitizen I agree you did get the definition correct, but your take on her sentence doesn't meet the criteria. Discussion of race in no way means hate. If you have any examples of real hate (racism), by that poster or any other I would like to read it; I haven't seen any on this blog. What I have witnessed is people claiming racial comments are somehow racist because they don't like the discussion.

helge1939
May 4, 2012 at 6:53 a.m.
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If Mitt picks Ryan he wont get my vote

analertcitizen
May 4, 2012 at 6:45 a.m.
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@RAF- For a while I didn't think you were as luntic fringe as the rest of the Tea Party types but now I do. To attempt to use definitions of "racist vs racism" to defend donnaw's obvious racist comments is a lunatic fringe tactic. The word "racist" is accepted verbiage for someone who hates another race.

wislady
May 4, 2012 at 6:41 a.m.
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mruglyhands

One problem with your comments.....your "facts" are wrong.

Paul Ryan did NOT support NDAA.

On December 31, 2011, President Obama signed the "National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), codifying indefinite military detention without charge or trial into law for the first time in American history. The NDAA’s dangerous detention provisions would authorize the president — and all future presidents — to order the military to pick up and indefinitely imprison people captured anywhere in the world, far from any battlefield."

http://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/NDAA

Rep. Paul Ryan Not a Supporter of SOPA, Says

"SOPA, it would seem, is not one of Mr. Ryan’s top issues. In fact, the SOPA Track website says Mr. Ryan has taken $0 from “big media” donors who favor SOPA and does not say which way he will vote on the bill

http://www.betabeat.com/2011/12/29/rep-p...

But....here is what is behind the campaign to smear Ryan.

Paul Ryan Becomes Target For Anti SOPA Activists With The Help Of Reddit

http://www.awareandprepare.com/paul-ryan...

Midnight_Ride
May 4, 2012 at 6:05 a.m.
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Good American, After the 2008 election, we are told by the Democrats they would be in complete power for 40 years. That lasted just until the next election in 2010.
Young Guns like Marco Rubio, Allen West, and Kristi Noem are showing the way for new Conservatives of all minority.

mruglyhands
May 4, 2012 at 4:39 a.m.
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I used to really like Paul Ryan but he signed NDAA and CISPA (Google them). He's been talking about budget reform for about a decade now yet there has been no reform. Paul Ryan really isn't what he appears to be and that's too bad. I will not vote for him. I won't vote for a Democrat either but I'll write myself in before I vote for that fake again.

RetiredAirForce
May 4, 2012 at 3:07 a.m.
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pot meet kettle.

poobah
May 4, 2012 at 3:06 a.m.
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Well RetiredAirForce, my boyfriend is a carbon-based human but he isn't made of composite. At least not yet! We are looking forward to the technological singularity and transhumanism. Then he'll be my composite boyfriend.

RetiredAirForce
May 4, 2012 at 2:50 a.m.
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We poo? Is that you and your composite boyfriend?

poobah
May 4, 2012 at 2:38 a.m.
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RetiredAirForce said, "Hey the local troll is hard at work displaying her ignorance and lack of logic and ability to ascertain sarcasm. Screams of signs for help."

You don't have to scream for help, RAF. We're all here to help you. We should probably work on your ignorance issues first, then your logic issues and finally tackle your sarcasm challenges. Does that sound like a good plan?

RetiredAirForce
May 4, 2012 at 2:19 a.m.
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Hey the local troll is hard at work displaying her ignorance and lack of logic and ability to ascertain sarcasm. Screams of signs for help.

poobah
May 4, 2012 at 2:16 a.m.
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RetiredAirForce, on the "GAB predicts primary turnout of 30-35 percent" article [ http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/latest-ne... ] you also said, "Typical poo, side step the issue and cross post to hide ignorance."

I'm not cross-posting to hide your ignorance, RAF. I'm taking your words at face value. No spin!

RetiredAirForce
May 4, 2012 at 2:11 a.m.
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poo, sarcasm much like logic has gone over your head.

RetiredAirForce
May 4, 2012 at 2:09 a.m.
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Sadly those of the civil party of dems and open to all ideas liberals are incapable to grasp the distinction between racism, racist, and racial.

Discussing race issues describes a racial action. Only the fringed few that can't discuss adult issues moan racism and racist.

Definition of RACIAL 1: of, relating to, or based on a race.

Definition of RACISM 1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

Someone displaying the traits of racism is a racist...not a hard topic to figure out.

The most fitting for those this is about:
Definition of IGNORANCE : the state or fact of being ignorant : lack of knowledge, education, or awareness.

chelleandlou
May 4, 2012 at 2:08 a.m.
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Ryan lost my vote and I know a lot of other people who previously voted for him that feel the same way. He's the typical politician out of touch with the people, could care less about the 99% until it comes time for re-election.

Prove me wrong Ryan, trade places with me for a month. My income for your income. Walk a month in my shoes you might wake up.

poobah
May 4, 2012 at 1:17 a.m.
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RetiredAirForce said, "If you want a one party system you can visit the great countries that have them; old version USSR, China, North Korea, old version Libia, Cuba, or Venezuela"

You just called communist China, communist North Korea and communist Cuba great countries, RAF!

fearandrhetoric4dummies
May 4, 2012 at 1:03 a.m.
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Typical lunatics, are you going to tell me that statements like:""Thats why the majority of Hispanics and Blacks vote democratic....govt handouts, a way of life and an expectation. Why would they bite the hand that feeds them?"" Arenyt at very least race baiting or simply racist to the core? Talk about fringe!! Bite the hand that feeds them? How could anyone call thatanything other than racist hate speech?

wiggle
May 4, 2012 at 1:01 a.m.
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RAF - sweetheart if "Thats why the majority of Hispanics and Blacks vote democratic....govt handouts, a way of life and an expectation" doesn't "SCREAM racism" I don't know what does!
It's derogatory, degrading, and most importantly, a lie.
Apparently your too ignorant and "cant identify when it really happens" I'll help point it out to you. What Donnaw said was in fact racist.

RetiredAirForce
May 4, 2012 at 12:34 a.m.
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GoodAmerican stated "In 8-12 years, there willbe no GOP anymore." I suspect your prediction will pan out as well as James Carville's infamous claim of the dem party being in charge for the next 40 years after the 2008 election, he was only off by 38 years.

A little hint for you...it's called a two-party system for a reason. They make the rules. If you want a one party system you can visit the great countries that have them; old version USSR, China, North Korea, old version Libia, Cuba, or Venezuela [to name a few].

RetiredAirForce
May 3, 2012 at 11:45 p.m.
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Typical of the left fringe. When someone they disagree with cites a race they SCREAM racism. It is truly disgusting how the party of liberals has so maligned and marginalized the term racism when most cant identify when it really happens.

garyprimer
May 3, 2012 at 11:35 p.m.
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I think that Ryan would be a great pick for VP.
His wonderful policies and devotion to Ayn Rand
would be a great incentive to voters.

baegucb
May 3, 2012 at 9:47 p.m.
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Stupid tea party, but I repeat myself. 61% of welfare recipients are white. And black peoples overall income is less than whites. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1...

analertcitizen
May 3, 2012 at 9:45 p.m.
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I have to say at this point that I know Paul Ryan personally. I don't agree with his politics but I do believe he is a decent and honorable person ( I actually suspect he likes Obama better than he liked Bush and cohorts). He would never ever support the thinking that donnaw and signguy or other tea party racists have indicated on these blogs. He may be Conservative but he is not as hateful as they are.He has his agenda but it is based on political ideology only, not racism. Funny, I voted for both Ryan and Feingold. Why? because they are decent and honorable.

spark
May 3, 2012 at 9:02 p.m.
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Mouse- Wow. There you go again with your little name calling rants. It's my opinion Mouse. Each and every singe one of your posts is a hate filled, republican bashing, extreme left wing opinion. That's it Mouse. Nothing less, nothing more. A big mouth spouting off. One that is extremely overly confident that Ryan, Walker and anyone else that doesn't fit your liberal agenda will be gone. Time will tell. That's all I will say. Time will tell. Trust me, I don't consider the same bloggers on the Gazette as a majority when it comes to political popularity. LOL.

wiggle
May 3, 2012 at 8:54 p.m.
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Donnaw - seriously?! I lived many years in AZ and CA. I have employed many hardworking Latinos and Blacks. They were actually better employee's than the Caucasians.
Where are your buddies RAF, Wislady, Fedup, kewsbrew? They abandoned you, typical, wouldn't you say? Repubs are all for themselves, instead of using their water to put out their neighbours 'fire on the stove' they close the blinds and take a bath.
GoodAmerican speaks the truth. 'Pure whites" are becoming the minority. Repubs are "old south prejudice", they will not survive much longer unless they start reproducing like the Duggars.
It may not be in our life time, but the future of America holds a time when mixed races out number "pure white, old south repubs". All I can say is Thank God! Maybe my great-great grandchildren will be able to raise their kids in a America I could be proud of, instead of having to deal with repubs and their ugliness!

poobah
May 3, 2012 at 8:23 p.m.
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wislady said, "Not really, it is called liberal media bias."

I think the sequins are falling off from your tri-cornered hat into your eyes and affecting your vision, wislady. It was donnaw that displayed the attitude that LincolnTruman was addressing.

Or perhaps you're suggesting that donnaw, one of your staunchly conservative blog buddies, has been brainwashed by liberal media bias? Oh my!

fordfan
May 3, 2012 at 8:15 p.m.
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wislady thinks that "Thats why the majority of Hispanics and Blacks vote democratic....govt handouts, a way of life and an expectation" written by one of her Tea Party cohorts is "liberal media bias"? Why, because the right wing sensors neglected to remove it before others read it and commented? I guess we can add wislady to the list of racists attending this afternoon's little Tea Party.

wislady
May 3, 2012 at 7:59 p.m.
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LincolnTruman

coincidence? Not really, it is called liberal media bias.

onedayatatime
May 3, 2012 at 7:45 p.m.
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I have asked this question on other threads and have yet to receive an answer.
What has Paul Ryan done for his Constituents?
From his voting record he has represented the insurance and financial industries.

fordfan
May 3, 2012 at 7:10 p.m.
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LincolnTruman - I grabbed a copy for reminder/reference purposes. I will not ask to have it taken down. Amazing how people's true thoughts/feelings come out from time-to-time.

fordfan
May 3, 2012 at 6:33 p.m.
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"Thats why the majority of Hispanics and Blacks vote democratic....govt handouts, a way of life and an expectation." One of the more racist statements that I have read out here brought to you by Republican spokesperson 75% donnaw.

analertcitizen
May 3, 2012 at 6:08 p.m.
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Don't hold your breath ddr. Or... do hold your breath- I can't decide which I'd rather see you do.

ddr
May 3, 2012 at 6:07 p.m.
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When he gets voted out does he get unemployment benefits and food stamps. He might be eligible for medicaid too.

analertcitizen
May 3, 2012 at 6:07 p.m.
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@signguy- what exactly looks and acts like a duck? The rush to get voter ID in place before the Presidential election?

thesignguy
May 3, 2012 at 5:57 p.m.
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Donnaw I agree with you. If it looks, quacks, and acts like a duck..............

analertcitizen
May 3, 2012 at 5:56 p.m.
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donnaw- You've crossed the line with your statement. Black people are very proud to elect a man of color within 150 years of the end of slavery. Irish catholics felt the same way when Kennedy was elected. Personal ancestral pride, that's what it's about- not handouts.

donnaw
May 3, 2012 at 5:06 p.m.
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Thats why the majority of Hispanics and Blacks vote democratic....govt handouts, a way of life and an expectation. Why would they bite the hand that feeds them? Not all of either group is dependent on govt handouts but many are. But I've noticed even some democrats (even some members of congress) are not planning on voting for Obama so it could be interesting.

youkillme
May 3, 2012 at 5:05 p.m.
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The Democrats have a worthy opponent. His name is Rob Zerban. Paul Ryan has never faced him before. It won't be easy to defeat an entrenched career politician like Ryan so Zerban needs all of our help.

http://www.robzerban.com/

tthompson
May 3, 2012 at 5 p.m.
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'Again, I will continue to say it. Democrats, provide a worthy opponent to beat him out. Until then, it's nothing more than talk. That's why we vote.'

Agreed.

'I wouldn't be so confident that the Democrats are gaining popularity after Obamas term.'

Please see 1st comment:)

dtb
May 3, 2012 at 4:54 p.m.
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He's too much like Mitt to be a VP candidate. Mitt will need someone not a mirror image of himself to court voters other than the hard and fast GOP base if he's going to win.
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I hear Sara Palin is free since her reality show got canned.

spark
May 3, 2012 at 4:50 p.m.
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GoodAmerican - And you believe the Democrats are building a strong case? Obama's false promises of change has backfired on him with many voters. Many that voted for him originally. My honest opinion, a majority of all politicians are clueless and the reason we are in this mess. I wouldn't be so confident that the Democrats are gaining popularity after Obamas term.

spark
May 3, 2012 at 4:42 p.m.
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Again, I will continue to say it. Democrats, provide a worthy opponent to beat him out. Until then, it's nothing more than talk. That's why we vote.

spark
May 3, 2012 at 4:40 p.m.
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GoodAmerican - I know that I certainly don't believe everything I read or hear. There will be a GOP in 8-12 years.

youkillme
May 3, 2012 at 4:40 p.m.
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They mean Paul Ryan's "supporters" like him where he is. I would rather see him working in the private sector so he can institute that utopian environment to create the jobs that he claims government can't.

poobah
May 3, 2012 at 4:38 p.m.
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I agree with Hugh Hancock and Render Spencer. I would also like to see Ryan stay in the house. His house, that is.

spark
May 3, 2012 at 4:35 p.m.
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GoodAmerican - I hope you don't rely on betting for income. LOL.

JoyM
May 3, 2012 at 4:10 p.m.
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Besides being in a better position now to help us fiscally than as VP, he needs to wait until his children are grown. The White House is no place for children. I hope to see him thinking about this again in 8-12 years. There's no rush, and those kids already get too much spotlight shined on them.

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