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RetiredAirForce said, "Yet nothing to counter my posts"

How does one counter posts that consist of you calling others sock puppets, red herrings, trolls and lemmings other than by pointing out the prevalence of name calling, lack of original thought and plagiarism in your comments?

Yet nothing to counter my posts...imagine that. troll.

Sock puppets, red herrings, trolls and lemmings!

On Milwaukee mayor to face Walker in Wis. recall

Posted on May 13, 2012 at 9:43 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"poor troll" [...] "lemming"

On GOP: Gay marriage an issue but not like economy

Posted on May 13, 2012 at 9:39 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"troll this isn't a term paper."

On Milwaukee mayor to face Walker in Wis. recall

Posted on May 11, 2012 at 8:07 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"More deflection and adding another red herring"

On Milwaukee mayor to face Walker in Wis. recall

Posted on May 11, 2012 at 7:20 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"Just more deflection. Ignoring what I stated and comparing to red

herrings."

On Barrett: Race to boil down to jobs

Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:06 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"everything you attemptes to provide till now was nothing more than

red herrings."

On Ryan reiterates US debt crisis warnings at Janesville listening

session

Posted on May 8 at 5:12 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"Spoken like a true sock puppet"

On Who's who? Obama, Romney projecting mirror image

Posted on May 8 at 3:37 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"spoken like a true sock puppet"

On Mischievous voters are unlikely during primary

Posted on May 8 at 1:30 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"I suspect the faux posters and sock puppets will all vote for the fake

republican...fakes stick together."

On Rep. Paul Ryan's constituents like him where he is

Posted on May 8 at 1:06 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"I suspect GoodAmerican is just another of the many sock puppets,

put forth by a very incapable person to debate ideas based on facts."

On Barrett: Race to boil down to jobs

Posted on May 8 at 1:02 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"Nothing but a sock puppet"

On Ryan reiterates US debt crisis warnings at Janesville listening

session

Posted on May 7 at 11:38 p.m. by RetiredAirForce

"As a sock puppet you now have less credibility than mouse

poor troll, when you can't debate issues based on facts your irrelevance comes to the forefront. Since you have so much passion researching what I do post it is strange you have not done the least bit on your own to research your own positions; lemming.

RetiredAirForce said, "Distraction is the divided attention of an individual or group from the chosen object of attention onto the source of distraction."

Circular logic, sock puppets and red herrings. Still working on your autobiography? You may want to use more original material and less plagiarized material. I'll cite your source for you: [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distraction... ]

What? WIKIPEDIA! The very same source RAF has plagiarized he has also called into question when others have cited it. [ http://gazettextra.com/news/2012/may/12/... ]

TCB, I'm asking you, not Wiggle or RAF, to show us the proof to back up your claim that Obama HIRED the individuals you claimed he did. You were not forced by Wiggle to make your claim. It was your claim, not Wiggle's. Where's the proof to support your claim?

poobah,

No one doubts that Obama worked with Rezko, Wright married him/bapitized his children, and Bill Ayers is a friend and advisor.

In wiggle world this is all the proof you need. Also in wiggle world, if Rezko is a crook-so is Obama, If Ayres is bomb making blame america firster-then so is obama, if Wright is an anti-semitic bigoted racists-then what does this make Obama?

This is what wiggle believes....

"do you have proof that Obama HIRED the individuals"
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LOL, the same amount of proof as wiggle. But Mrs circular logic already knew that, only trolling never offering anything to the conversation.

TCB, do you have proof that Obama HIRED the individuals you claimed he had hired?

You originally said HIRED. Now you've changed it to "worked with." There's a large difference in those two roles. When you make up your mind as to what you mean, let me know.

poobah,

Obama never worked with Tony Rezko?
Obama never consulted/prayed/was married/baptized his children with wright

Obama never met with Bill Ayers and Bill Ayers never said he wrote Obama biography?

Wiggle says that people are guilty based on the company they keep. If Obama never worked with Rezko, was married by/a member of wrights bigoted church for 20 years, and was not a friend and close confidant of Bill Ayers---then you are absolutely correct.

Wiggle is probably correct-corruption only occurs where she sees it....

TCB said, "Obama hired them to do a 'job' for him and they got busted doing this 'job'."

I don't believe you have your facts correct. As far as I can determine, there was never the type of employment/managerial relationship between Obama and the individuals you listed as there was between Walker and the individuals that Wiggle listed. Of course, if you have proof otherwise, I'd be more than happy to consider it.

Vato,

Great post-but Obama is not who is friends are-like Bombing Bill Ayers or his bigoted anti semitic pastor wright. Just because obama real estate agent Tony Rezko is a crook and Obama profited from dealing with a man convicted of influence peddling and bribery-this doesn't make Obama-someone he hired-a crook? In wiggle world, yes. Wait Wiggleworld believes that this only applies to republicans.

After all "these people are his friends, Obama hired them to do a 'job' for him and they got busted doing this 'job'. You are what your friends are?

In Wiggleworld "this proves it".....

" My agenda is to... "
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Yes all have seen what your agenda is. So far it has all been filled with misleading and false information mixed in with heavy does of hypocrisy.

ANother wiggle lie exposed "So your saying walkers's campaign aide and operator of walkers web page worked for Doyle? Ignorant spin honey!"
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Pierick previous was employed as an office operations associate with the State of Wisconsin’s School Improvement Grants/Education for Homeless Children and Youth. That is a state agency. At the time of his employment and the date of his incident Doyle was governor. So yes, he worked for doyle. But expecting you to keep facts straight is something you have proven over and over to be incapable of doing.

Another lie from wiggle "You are for corruptness"

Wiggle uttered "hired his friends to steal money from the veterans, which you are telling everyone you are, and you believe walker is squeaky clean in all this, makes your posts meaningless"
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He hired his friends to steal? Quick call the DA's office and give them this nugget of information!!!!

In the mean time adults who have not seen this information come from the +2 year john doe probe are very skeptical of your childish wingnut comments.

RetiredAirForce
May 12, 2012 at 9:48 a.m.
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Wiggle what about Sen John Kerry? He "hired" a guy to run as his vice presidentail nominee who has been charged with fraud and is currently under trial. Sen Kerry also had an aide (worked for him) that was charged with releasing government secrets. Why have you not said a word about Kerry and his guilt by association, or does it not fit your agenda?
No it doesn't fit my agenda sweetheart. I am neither repub or demo, if kerry - who I can't stand, did wrong he needs to go down with the rest of them. My agenda is to rid WI of a corrupt gov. Period.

RetiredAirForce
May 12, 2012 at 9:52 a.m.
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How exactly does a person working for the state under doyle, charged with child enticement, caught under the current john doe probe doing a job for walker?
What are you spinning now?
Brian Pierick, Scott Walker's campaign aide and former operator of ScottWalker.org, has been arrested and charged with felony enticement of a child.
So your saying walkers's campaign aide and operator of walkers web page worked for Doyle? Ignorant spin honey!

Raf- considering the king you bow to has hired his friends to steal money from the veterans, which you are telling everyone you are, and you believe walker is squeaky clean in all this, makes your posts meaningless. You are for corruptness so you like walker and all the reat of his followers are just as vile as he, and not worth a second of thought or response.
FYI- preach Doyle all you want I didn't put him in office.

One of wiggles latest lies, " they got busted doing this 'job'."
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How exactly does a person working for the state under doyle, charged with child enticement, caught under the current john doe probe doing a job for walker?

Wiggle what about Sen John Kerry? He "hired" a guy to run as his vice presidentail nominee who has been charged with fraud and is currently under trial. Sen Kerry also had an aide (worked for him) that was charged with releasing government secrets. Why have you not said a word about Kerry and his guilt by association, or does it not fit your agenda?

What about Tom Barrett? He had a person working for him that was charged with assault on his girlfriend. He also vouched (recommended for office) for a person running for city comptroller that was charged with bribery.

Do you want other names of dems with associations to or has been convicted or do you just want to drop the silliness of your guilt by association game now?

but maybe not ignorant, you repubs know what he is waht he does but that's still ok with you.
Says far more than your ignorant, says you are just as vile as the corrupt king you bow to.

It's more than "guilt by association", these people are his friends, he hired them to do a 'job' for him and they got busted doing this 'job'. so why would you hire someone who runs with criminals that steal, lie, enticement children?
Don't know about you but I was taught - you are what your friends are. Scooters friends are corrupt so a decent honest guy surounds himself with corrupt people yet he's all squeaky clean? Man are repubs ignorant!

wiggle,

Should walker be arrested and convicted of guilt by association? How long is this sentence? What other politicians would be found guilty of your crime?

This proves that walker is corrupt. If your 'friends' are corrupt so must be you!

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Tim Russell, Scott Walker's former Deputy Chief of Staff, has been arrested and charged with two felonies and a misdemeanor for stealing thousands of dollars intended for wounded veterans and families of military servicemembers who died in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Kevin Kavanaugh, Scott Walker's appointee to a Veteran Service Commission, has been arrested and charged with five felonies related to the theft of funds from Operation Freedom.

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Brian Pierick, Scott Walker's campaign aide and former operator of ScottWalker.org, has been arrested and charged with felony enticement of a child.

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Kelly Rindfleisch, Scott Walker's personal fundraiser for his campaign and his former Deputy Chief of Staff, has been charged with four felonies for sending more than 1,000 campaign emails while supposedly working on the clock for taxpayers just 25 feet from Scott Walker's office.

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Darlene Wink, Scott Walker's former Director of Constituent Services, has been convicted of two misdemeanors under a plea deal for planning campaigning fundraisers, including one with Sarah Palin, on taxpayer dime.

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William Gardner, Scott Walker's close friend and campaign donor, was convicted of the largest campaign finance violation in Wisconsin history for illegally funneling more than $43,000 to Friends of Scott Walker

Is this recall election still union thuggery when the union backed candidate lost?

916, you never know what name the person behind "fear" is posting under from one day to the next.

Sorry fear, I was busy last night.......'So please again I would like to hear from 916 (not bebe) about who is responsible for all of this, and why again we seem to be focused on teachers and other public employees?'

I didn't read all the posts because it's the same thing posted by the same people(on both sides) By "responsible for this" what are you referring to?

Nice little speech nomoreres (feel better?), if you are done I'm still waiting for you to address what I did say or at least discuss the facts.

RAF, it is amusing to read your posts (thinking you are a legend in your own mind) when most who read your posts must see you for what you are - a very, very little person who loves to latch onto your hero. I recognize you have your small support group on these blogs, they are easily identifiable. But for the most part I must thank you, for any reasonable person can clearly see through your bias and partisan views. I am confident that you have made many people think "do I really want to be identified with him?" Thank you for that.

I copy and pasted examples of spending that should enfuriate republicans. But since they were mostly put forth by repubs, they must be saintly.

Bebe are you talking? I refuse to read your drivel anymore, but let me guess.

"Unions are responsible for everything evil, eliminate my taxes, republicans are angels from heaven."
repeating the same talking points is old and making you look dumber with every post.

public schools outperfrm their private counterparts at every turn, even facing a far greater diverse demographic.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/1...
Latest tests show voucher scores about same or worse in math and reading.

The big news for those plugged into the education world, however, was the choice vs. public school results in Milwaukee. MPS results overall showed 59% of students scoring proficient or better in reading, while 47.8% of students scored proficient or better in math.

In the voucher program, 55.2% of students scored proficient or better in reading while 34.4% of students scored proficient or better in math.

The percentage of low-income students in MPS proficient or better in reading - 55.3% - was about the same as the voucher program, which currently serves only low-income students.

What was that? Respecting public schools means not trying to balance your budget on the backs of educators and other public employees when they were never the cause of the problem. Dont create a fiscal crisis to make a false idol. Thats exactly what happened here.
My side? The side of public education? Outside of that I could care less about political party. Below are several examples of wasteful spending and so many ignore these factors. So spare me the montra of "Your side is losing". Because you are obsessed with my side vs your side , instead of what is right and what is wrong. Congrats you have been bamboozled, they dont care about you , or about anyone.
You seem to be obsessed with this TCB, what about the billions in welfare hganed out to businesses extorting tax dollars from the states? maybe we should stop that practice if you reall care about your tax dollars.

fear,

What is the scale you are using for measuring respect for public schools? Is respect defined as letting building rot and decay from the inside out? Is this respect? Is respect allowing and turning a blind eye to stagnant national test scores? Is this respect-

The Milwaukee Public choice program graduation rates is 82% compared to 70% in the MPS? is this respect for public schools? Or is respect defined as spending 6400 per pupil in the MPCP vs "Only" 15,000 per pupil and graduating 20% more with less than half the dollars?

Choice works-even in education. (Unless its a govt school-who prefer the status quo)

fear,

it is an ideological fight and your side lost. ANd likely will lose again. look how well Milwaukee public schools are doing with his leadership? Or has Barrett promised that he will end the earmarks from Congress? perhaps Mayor barrett has the power to print wisconsinite money-like the obama does with is monetary policy? 1.6 Trillion deficit, 15 trillion debt. If some is good more is better? Look how great Illinois balance sheet is? Stable...

Is this Barretts promise? He will promise to make wisconsins balance sheet more like Illinois? Im "hoping" that he promises this as well. If he can articulate this vision...the sky is the limit!

Fear,

'Hoping" is not doing. We all learned this with the obama (remember hope and change).

You site a nice starter list of earmarks-who controls the US Senate? Is Governor Barrett going to eliminate federal earmarks? No. You failed to include the biggest boon doogle of the them all--Obamacare! Or is it the federal student loan program? (one in the same) I understand its difficult to cut and paste 2600+ pages to the gazette....

What has Barrett said he is going to do? Specifically.....

""IF only scott walker was found guilty of selling a senate seat like that leading democrat Blago in Illinois--then there might be a plausible reason to remove Walker.

Its really easy to complain-its takes a leader to offer solutions""

What solutions? this is an ideological attack designed to change a state that wasnt broken. What does Blago being a dem have to do with him being corrupt? Shall I point out that Walker is currently under investigation? Or countless other instances of republican corruption? Why dont we talk about solutions, or maybe more importantly who those "solutions" are designed to benefit. Walker is NO leader, he is merely as RAF put it a sock puppet for his wealthy donors and benefactors. Anyone who thinks he is being the governor for the benefit of the taxpayers who dont contribute to his campaigns is absolutely ignorant. I put Barrett in the same category, except I feel that at least with Barrett we can expect some respect for our public schools.

jcommon- read slowly. I am fine with the financial concessions. Just not taking away peoples ability to bargain for either more money, better benefits , better work conditions , etc.... You like most seem to think this is only about the money. While it is for some I am sure. It wasnt for Walker, and never was. This has been an ideological fight from day one. Act 10 should be repealed , because it allows the governor to act like a "king" as TCB so correctly put it.

TCB- "If he wins-he is governor-not king. "" could you pleas tell governor Walker that, I dont think he understands that.
What is Barrett going to do? Hopefully refund education change the formula for shared revenue(which Doyle left unchanged). I also think leaving the financial concessions for public workers in place while restoring Bargaining, at least being courageous enough to bargain with groups instead of trying to destroy them. Remember the king comment?

So please again I would like to hear from 916 (not bebe) about who is responsible for all of this, and why again we seem to be focused on teachers and other public employees? Maybe Walker has helped many of you take your eye off the ball. Maybe you are more concerned about scoreboard watchin than REALITY. But reality is really harsh when you look at real waste and where its going, and who is advocating for it.

Try to remember these are a few small examples of THOUSANDS. Dont tell me there isnt enough money for schools and other social programs. At some point we need to take control of the government and not just relinquish it all to these people who like to blame teachers and "high" taxes.

Ready bebe..............'SQUIRREL"

$181,200,000 for 50 projects by Senate Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), including: $8,100,000 for a DDG-51 hybrid drive system (Sen. Cochran asked for the hybrid drive system, yet the $250,000,000 for additional advance procurement for the DDG-51 program itself was anonymous); $7,840,000 for an extremely large, domestic expendable and reusable structures manufacturing center; $4,000,000 for the Army Center of Excellence in Acoustics, National Center for Physical Acoustics; $3,280,000 for the Cooperative International Neuromuscular Research Group; $3,120,000 for online health services optimization; $2,400,000 for the Center for Intelligence and Security Studies; and $800,000 for a Historically Black Colleges and Universities applied research incubator.

$93,900,000 for 25 projects by Senate Defense Appropriations subcommittee member Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.), including: $10,000,000 for four earmarks for the Joint Interagency Training and Education Center; $8,000,000 for the Smart Sensor Supercomputing Center; $7,000,000 for the Robert C. Byrd Institute of Advanced Flexible Manufacturing Systems [according to a February 28, 2010 herald-dispatch.com article, “The Robert C. Byrd Institute for Advanced Flexible Manufacturing (RCBI) is joining forces with Cabell County Career Technology Center (CCCTC) to offer evening welding classes to the Tri-State Area. It’s part of an effort enhance the pool of skilled workers available to industry.”]; and $800,000 for a West Virginia counter-drug program.

$69,880,000 for 22 projects by Rep. Rob Bishop (R-Utah), including: $12,000,000 for the laser phalanx; $9,600,000 for the Automated Composite Technologies and Manufacturing Center; $3,920,000 for a UAV sensor and maintenance development center; $3,600,000 for Dugway Field test improvements; $3,500,000 for TranSim driver training; $1,200,000 for optimizing natural language processing of open source intelligence; and $800,000 for an Army force generation synchronization tool.

$2,500,000,000 for the procurement of ten C–17 aircraft. In a floor statement on September 30, 2009, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) voiced his opposition to the C-17 funding: “That’s why the Administration ‘strongly objects’ to the addition of $2.5 billion in funding for these ten unrequested C-17 aircraft. The Department of Defense’s (DoD) own analyses shows that the 205 C-17s that the Air Force has or which are on order, together with the existing fleet of C-5 aircraft, are sufficient to meet the Department’s future airlift needs – even under the most stressing situations. So, I am absolutely convinced that we should not be having taxpayers put up $2.5 billion for these aircraft. Doing so not only misallocates procurement funds this year to buy expensive airplanes that are not needed, but it also imposes a continuing sustainment cost of $100 million dollars per year for every year thereafter for their operation.” This earmark was anonymous.

$465,000,000 for continued development and initial procurement of the alternate engine for the Joint Strike Fighter. The project has received $1.2 billion in pork since 2004. The Senate did not include any funds for the alternate engine in its version of the appropriations bill, but the House version prevailed in conference. On February 1, 2010 at his briefing on the fiscal year 2011 DOD budget, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said, “I’m fully aware of the political pressure to continue building the C-17 and to proceed with an alternate engine for the F-35, so let me be clear. I will strongly recommend that the president veto any legislation that sustains the unnecessary continuation of these two programs.” On February 25, 2010, Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell reiterated DOD’s position on the alternate engine, stating, “this money can clearly be better spent buying capabilities that our warfighters do need. This is a luxury we cannot afford.” No wonder that all 435 representatives and 100 senators refused to be identified with this massive waste of tax dollars.

$198,150,000 for 37 projects by Senate Defense Appropriations Subcommittee Chairman Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii), including: $23,000,000 for the Hawaii Federal Health Care Network (since 2001, nine projects worth $180,650,000 have been earmarked for this network); $10,000,000 for a Hawaii technology development venture; and $8,000,000 for the Center of Excellence for Research in Ocean Sciences (CEROS). Since 1996, seven projects worth $47,600,000 have been earmarked for this center. According to its website, “CEROS solicits and supports innovative technologies for national maritime military applications and sustained technology-based economic development in Hawai’i through annual competitive Solicitations. Since 1993, CEROS has funded 256 technical projects for over $100 million. The CEROS program has supported the creation of 135 technology-based jobs in Hawaii.” That equates to $740,000 per job.

fear,

what would a governor barret do? Beside blame walker? Is this a winning strategy? It worked for the Obama-but is not likely to work for Barret-is it?

Is Barret going to eliminate tax incentives to draw businesses to WI? No

Does Barret as governor have the power to fund the US Military? No

Does Barret as governor have the power/legal authority to fund or determine Social security benefits? No

Does Barret as governor have the legal authority-alone to change how public schools are funded? No.

What exactly is Barret going to solve and how? If he wins-he is governor-not king. You've created a straw man to complain about issues the governor, irrespective of party is powerless to change. IF only scott walker was found guilty of selling a senate seat like that leading democrat Blago in Illinois--then there might be a plausible reason to remove Walker.

Its really easy to complain-its takes a leader to offer solutions-what solutions has Barret promised?

$700,000 by Senate Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), Sens. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) and David Vitter (R-La.), House appropriators Allen Boyd (D-Fla.), Ander Crenshaw (R-Fla.), and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-Fla.), and Reps. Joseph “Anh” Cao (R-La.) and Solomon Ortiz (D-Texas) for shrimp industry fishing research by the Southern Shrimp Alliance. According to the group’s website, it “is a non-profit alliance of members of the shrimp industry in eight states committed to preventing the continued deterioration of America’s domestic shrimp industry and to ensuring the industry's future viability.”

$500,000 by Senate CJS Appropriations Subcommittee member Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) and Rep. John Tanner (D-Tenn.) for the Solar Energy Laser Physics Program at Austin Peay State University. According to Rep. Tanner’s website, the earmark will be used to train people to work at the Hemlock Semiconductor Plant, which “will provide the company with a well-trained pool to fulfill its workforce requirements with 80 graduates per year -- more graduates than any single major at the university.” Hemlock Semiconductor is a joint venture between the Dow Corning Corporation and two Japanese companies; Dow Corning’s net income in 2009 was $579.6 million. What appears to be a training project at a local university is really a taxpayer-funded program for profitable private sector manufacturers of semiconductors and solar panels. The fact that the study of physics is still not cool in school doesn’t mean that Congress should give handouts to businesses.

$825,000 by Senate CJS Appropriations Subcommittee member Judd Gregg (R-N.H.) and Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) for the Commercial Fishermen Sustainability Initiative. According to Sen. Shaheen’s website, the money will be used by more than 300 of New Hampshire’s commercial and lobster fisherman to replace floating groundlines with sinking groundlines to prevent entanglement with wildlife. It seems that Congress is up to something “fishy” with more government handouts to select commercial industries.

$44,400,000 for 27 projects by Senate Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), including: $5,000,000 for the National Institute for Undersea Science and Technology at the University of Mississippi; $3,700,000 for marine aquaculture lab operations at the University of Southern Mississippi; $2,000,000 for remote infrastructure monitoring of natural hazards at the University of Mississippi and the University of Hawaii; $1,000,000 for the Center for Marine Education and Research-Ocean Expo-Learning Center at the Institute for Marine Mammal Studies; $1,000,000 for the University of Southern Mississippi for a technology industry partnership designed to transition space technologies into the commercial sector; and $500,000 for the University of Southern Mississippi for cannabis eradication.

$61,600,000 for 30 projects by Senate CJS Appropriations Subcommittee Ranking Member Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), including: $14,000,000 for the Cooperative Institute and Research Center for Southeast Weather and Hydrology at the University of Alabama; $6,000,000 for six projects for the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville; $1,000,000 for the Tools for Tolerance program at the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, California; $250,000 for a wireless area network for the city of Hartselle (population 13,888); $200,000 for the Cherokee County Methamphetamine and Marijuana Reduction program; and $150,000 for Zelpha’s Cultural Development Corporation for the University of Alabama’s After-School Delinquency Prevention program.

12,500,000 by Senate Agriculture Appropriations Subcommittee Ranking Member Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) for 13 projects, including: $2,750,000 for polymer research; $1,000,000 for wheat genetic research; $1,000,000 for a phosphorous reduction cooperative agreement through the Kansas Livestock Foundation; and $250,000 for workforce development and out-migration through the Kansas Farm Bureau Foundation (KFBF). In addition to the appropriation, KFBF has also applied for a $7 million stimulus grant for rural broadband deployment. To add insult to injury, the Kansas Farm Bureau, which is conveniently located at the same address as the foundation, had a fund balance of $98 million at the end of 2007.

Now lets see if its just a democrat problem:

$29,992,000 by Senate Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) for 27 projects, including: $4,000,000 for the Jamie Whitten Delta States Research Center, Stoneville; $1,500,000 for Berryman Institute, Jack Berryman Institute, Utah and Mississippi Agriculture and Forestry Experiment Station; $1,002,000 for Mississippi Valley State University, curriculum development; $939,000 for the Agricultural Wildlife Conservation Center; and $231,000 for e-commerce research, because no one knows how to go online.

Otherwise known as the Gravina Island Bridge, this $400 million project was drafted to be as long as the Golden Gate Bridge and as tall as the Brooklyn Bridge. Who would use this amazing feat of engineering? The bridge was slated to replace the ferry service that supplied access to the mainland for the 50 permanent residents and 200,000 yearly visitors to Alaska's Ketchikan Airport. Aptly named the Bridge to Nowhere, federal funding for it has been bogged down in the Senate for the past six years

Since the 1990s, it has been clear that the future of U.S. warfare is up in the air. But even that does not justify the one trillion dollar F-35 Lighting II stealth fighter plane project that has plagued the Pentagon for years. Though the immediate price tag is (only) $300 billion, the operational and maintenance costs will tip the project's price tag over 13 figures. The real kicker? Inexpensive, remote controlled propeller planes have proven more effective in Pakistan and Afghanistan and their price tag is denominated in thousands.

In 1904, the iron workers of Birmingham, Alabama got what the always wanted. No, it wasn't equal right or fair pay, it was a 56-foot-tall cast iron statue of Vulcan, the Roman god of the forge. Nearly a century later, $4 million of federal funds went toward the restoration of the piece, which, judging by the look of this thing, were totally worth it.

There is a special place in heaven for those people who can drive through the streets of Boston without swearing like a sailor. In order to solve this congestion, the city of Boston decided that if you can't go through it, you should go under it. And thus began the Big Dig, a 25 year long debacle of cost overruns, shoddy construction, and work-related deaths. The underground highway was finally completed in 2007 to the tune of $22 billion, not counting interest and restitution payments. And guess what? Boston traffic still sucks

It's a well-known fact that China's economy is booming and expected to overtake the U.S. in less than five years. What's less known is that one of the economic drivers of that boom is construction. Since communist China doesn't have to follow the laws of supply and demand, they keep on building shopping malls, apartment blocks, and even whole cities despite the fact that no one is living in them. One troubling example is Kangbashi, a city built for 1 million inhabitants on China's northern frontier. It only has 20,000 residents.

While planning for the future is all well and good, factoring in today's reality is crucial. St. Louis' Lambert International Airport was the 8th busiest in during the 1990s. A third runway expansion plan broke ground at the end of the decade, right before a series of events drastically reduced traffic at the airport. Still, the construction must, apparently, go on. Now Lambert's new runway has the distinction of being the costliest public works project in St. Louis — the final cost totaled $1.1 billion, which cannot be justified. That's because a decrease in traffic means only 5% of flights land on the new tarmac.

The 1% are so vilified in the news today, shouldn't the government throw a little something their way to ease the pain? No, I'm not talking about the $700 billion in bank bailouts. Instead, I'm referring to the $1.9 million earmarked for water taxis to take the wealthy to their summer playground on Pleasure Beach, CT

When the Seawolf class submarine was commissioned in the late 1980s, it was superior to the Los Angeles class sub it was meant to replace in almost every way. It was quieter, faster, and had a larger nuclear arsenal. It was the perfect Cold War weapon. The only problem was that this incredibly expensive piece of fighting equipment was commissioned just months before the Berlin Wall fell. That meant that the order size fell from 29 to 3. Without an economy of scale, the Department of Defense shelled out $7.3 billion for three submarines that were obsolete before they even smelled the salt sea.

After we made it to the moon in 1969, NASA adopted a "been there, done that" attitude in regards to their space program. The expensive and exciting rocket exploration program was shelved in favor of "routine" flights on the "economical" space shuttle. Finally closed down this year, the shuttle program will be best remembered for its disasters — Columbia and Challenger — and its high operating cost of $1.5 billion per launch.

While we're discussing the Midwest, let's take a little trip up to Wisconsin, land of farms, cows, and cheese. Actually, Wisconsin's got a few more things going for it, like the Green Bay Packers and the Paper Industry International Hall of Fame. Apparently, the Superbowl champions weren't generating enough tourist traffic: to boost its revenue, the state lobbied (and received) $70,000 in federal funds to launch a Hall of Fame devoted to all things paper.

Iowa is famous for things like farms, corn, and… well, that's about it. The state is certainly not known for its thriving rainforest habitat. That is, unless the folks at Iowa Child have their way. They were able to secure at $50 million matching federal grant for an indoor rainforest habitat in Coralville, Iowa. As of today, they have not been able to raise enough private funds to get the federal grant — apparently private investors think the idea of creating a monkey habitat in the middle of a corn field is just bananas.

Reality? Lets see, I have 3 boys all under 7 , I own a home (mortage, property taxes) , I am self-employed, married, etc, etc, etc. I am about as ATTACHED to reality as it gets.
What you should try to understand is that PUBLIC EDUCATION is taxdollar financed , Teacher compensation, including pensions is a part of that funding. You seem to act as if public education dollars are what got us into this mess and as if essentially changing the face of education in this state is the road to recovery, PREPOSTEROUS!!
What I wonder is why so many of you seem to think its just fine to allow busiesses to extort money from states(taxdollars) by the hundreds of millions , essentially tax the very same valuable tax dollars , that we supposedly dont have and hand them over to a private company so they will bring business here? How exactly is that free enterprise? If you guys are so intent at keeping your taxes low than please explain to the republicans and democrats alike that feel they are backed into a corner by these so-called free-market businesses to shell out our dollars , and give them HUGE tax breaks, that we need free-enterprise to be completely spearate of the government. If you are gfoing to rail about big government then tell business to get out of the BUSINESS of extortion and bribery. Pitting states and essentially billions of local tax dollars aganst one another should be illegal, not some form of accepted reality.
There is plenty of money out there to be cut from government so we can have the social p[rograms that are essential to certain groupsof Americans(SS, Medicare), public education , and a strong ENOUGH military. If you really care about spending then you should address the prok barell projects that all congress members advocate for to bring tax dollars to their districts. Tens of Billions of tax dollars. If you want business taxes to be low, then tell business to stop extortion. Tell your congress people to draft a law to make this type of "compentition" amongst states illegal.
My point is if you want to fix wasteful spending then be honest about it, and actually look into how badly the government watses your money. Public education should be the very LAST thing we should be slashing and burning like this. Acting like you care about government wasting tax dollars without actually looking into how bad they are doing it makes you HYSTERICAL.
bebe - discussing things with you is like trying to talk to a four year old who thinks they know what they are talking about. Been down this road with you before, and as usual you have nothing to offer but BS. Congrats on being a real dummy.

Well,
I see one true hypocrite in this whole comment section and that person proved it with the statements that a small sacrifice doesn't effect the middle class worker, yet complains about a small sacrifice due to act 10.

If it isn't sock puppets, it's red herrings.

On Milwaukee mayor to face Walker in Wis. recall

Posted on May 11, 2012 at 8:07 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"More deflection and adding another red herring"

On Milwaukee mayor to face Walker in Wis. recall

Posted on May 11, 2012 at 7:20 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"Just more deflection. Ignoring what I stated and comparing to red herrings."

On Barrett: Race to boil down to jobs

Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:06 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"everything you attemptes to provide till now was nothing more than red herrings."

On Ryan reiterates US debt crisis warnings at Janesville listening session

Posted on May 8 at 5:12 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"Spoken like a true sock puppet"

On Who's who? Obama, Romney projecting mirror image

Posted on May 8 at 3:37 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"spoken like a true sock puppet"

On Mischievous voters are unlikely during primary

Posted on May 8 at 1:30 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"I suspect the faux posters and sock puppets will all vote for the fake republican...fakes stick together."

On Rep. Paul Ryan's constituents like him where he is

Posted on May 8 at 1:06 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"I suspect GoodAmerican is just another of the many sock puppets, put forth by a very incapable person to debate ideas based on facts."

On Barrett: Race to boil down to jobs

Posted on May 8 at 1:02 a.m. by RetiredAirForce

"Nothing but a sock puppet"

On Ryan reiterates US debt crisis warnings at Janesville listening session

Posted on May 7 at 11:38 p.m. by RetiredAirForce

"As a sock puppet you now have less credibility than mouse."

More deflection and adding another red herring (walker ). All the while ignoring what I did say.

Twist it any way you want, RAF. You are the master of that. Anyone who reads these posts knows you are not able to admit to the truth. Your perceived pride must pose quite an obstacle for you. Keep being the poster boy for all things Walker - that seems to make you happy.

Walker, Walker, Walker, Walker!!!
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MOVING THE GREAT STATE OF WISCONSIN "FORWARD"

Just more deflection. Ignoring what I stated and comparing to red herrings. Hey at least try to be honest and admit you dont want to talk about factual information.

RAF, I'm sorry you're choking on your own words. I've heard crow isn't too tasty. You seem to be confusing apples and oranges with money earned. It shouldn't be too hard to understand - take your time.

Fear......Hysterics? Not at all. I'm thrilled with the way things are going:) Walker's legislation is something that this state has needed for quite some time. People are finally waking up and saying "enough is enough".......
When did I chastise pensions? If simply mentioning that pensions are taxpayer funded, and that taxpayers can no longer afford to fully fund them, is chastising them, then you're the one with the issue..........
Your comment, "Maybe your laughing "middle class friends" should consider a lifestyle change if they cannot afford that, maybe get a job that they can earn a raise at. If youre not getting a raie its YOUR fault, either because your not working hard enough or you need to find a company that can afford to take care of its employees. Either way dont blame others for your own "Middle class misery". I also say once again. Stop smoking, drink less beer, and stop over eating and maybe youll be able to afford more in life." is pathetic and condescending......Once again it shows just out of touch with the real world you are.
So you contend that it is the struggling middle class taxpayers fault for not working hard enough if they do not get a raise, then you turn around and demand that these same people should have their taxes increased to cover raises for public employees, who have to do nothing for that raise but show up for work?? Seriously??

bebe don't even try. The poster is nothing but a sock puppet with multiple accounts.

""Tell that one to all my middle class friends-let's see how hard they laugh at your ridiculous statement like I am""
Spoken like a hysterical individual who honestly believes that a "Middle class family" cannot afford a 10 dollar a month tax increase. Talk about laughing hard.

Are your "middle class friends" living in the same trailer park that you are?
Living in reality which bebe is not a part of, you can look at the last decade and tell me how much your property taxes have gone up. Mine did this year and thats okay with me, I am within 150 bucks of what I paid 10 years ago. My home is assessed at right around 200k. My 3 kids will still have clothes , food my car will still have gas, my home will still be heated/cooled. Lights will be on all year. I still have cable, no credit card debt, etc.. My property taxes went up 257 bucks this year and the world didnt come to an end, and we bring hom a very Middle class wage. Funny how that works bebe. Acting hysterical about every issue doesnt make you right, it just makes you hysterical. I enjoy laughing at you and your drama that you like to create.

I would also contend that if your "middle class friends"are deeply affected by a 10-20 dollar a month tax increase, then what do they do when Gas skyrockets? Food inflates? Maybe your laughing "middle class friends" should consider a lifestyle change if they cannot afford that, maybe get a job that they can earn a raise at. If youre not getting a raie its YOUR fault, either because your not working hard enough or you need to find a company that can afford to take care of its employees. Either way dont blame others for your own "Middle class misery". I also say once again. Stop smoking, drink less beer, and stop over eating and maybe youll be able to afford more in life.

bebe as usual you start flapping off at the mouth without having any clue of what you are talking about. I am and always have been fine with financial contributions to health care and retirement, so back up the turnip truck because as usual you are just flying off the handle.
Now that you understand I am fine with the financial end that you seem to be so stuck on , my problem is the ideologicall cowardice of rescinding bargaining. Wanting to be able to cut/slash/burn salaries and benefits the way these folks have. Sure teachers should contribute more, but contribute more to a HC premium that will include EXTREMELY high premiums, and really poor coverage on several other services. Act 10 just takes peoples ability to bargain with their employers on several different factors. If the money isnt there for whatever reason then fine, you cannot bargain with what you dont have, but what it does is it opens the books so one side cannot lie, cheat , steal their way to screwing over the other. Why so cowardly??

bebe you are a truly simple minded individual. Your hysterics along with many others is funny to me. You will continue to whine and whine about small property tax increases 10 bucks, 20 bucks whatever. Because you are a sad , greedy , ornry individual. I feel sorry for people that are close to such a selfish simpleton. Remember had the SDJ taxed resonsibly for the last decade, the district wouldnt be in the hole they are in. Then you have districts thatactually gave all of the money that Act 10 required, then they suffered the budget cuts of your hero Scott "elementary School Destroyer" Walker, and they are still laying off elementary school teachers.
I am really growing tired of your very slow, simpleminded rants that really are just lined with echo chamber material. Like another poster on another thread. I believe you to be one of the "tools" that Walker keeps repeating about. You get sillier and sillier with every post. Off your meds??

nomoreres, typical of the wing nut brigade wanting to compare an apple to an orange while willfully ignoring the post provided. You failed to discuss the post itself and instead deflected because you feel the same way as the poster I criticized. As soon as you want to discuss the issue, feel free to engage based on facts and not more left wing rhetoric; there is enough of that here by the sock puppet party.

Even if Walker doesn't win, Wisconsin did.
Act 10 stays. Thank you Scott.

916- your hysterics actually make me laugh. I know you are a little more reasonable than that so try again.
My home is the least expensive in my neighbor hood valued at about 200. There are certainly by no means 500k homes everywhere but a few. That being said I see many "Stand with Walker" signs almost always in front of the nicest homes. People that can certainly afford a tax hike.
I also contend that lower priced homes in Janesville, Milton, etc, PAY much LESS in property taxes so the amount that they rise is far less and I know you are aware of that.
So lets try to be reasonable here. A less expensive home has their taxes go up say 100 bucks in a year. Are you going to tell me that extra LESS THAN 10 dollars a month will make a difference in your retirement? How can any reasonable person even make that argument.

I also would like to address the "tax to the Max" Hysteria that seems to dominate the narrative for you. You do realize that had our district taxed responsibly over the past decade we wouldnt be facing such huge shared revenue cuts , and face the layoffs of teachers right? My property taxes have hardly budged in almost 10 years!! I dont understand how a 200 dollar a year bump(this year) could reallyt affect a respnible homeowners life to that extent. That 18$ a month will now destroy my retirement!!
Funny how you complain about putting away for your retirement and chastize pensions. What happened to your 401k in 2007? Mine was decimated, gotta love that free market!! I now make my own deciions with my money and investments, instead of soime corrupt mutual fund.

RAF, once again @ 11:36 you have provided the irony we have come to expect from the right wing crowd (and you in particular). Your reference and response follows: ""The GREAT MAJORITY of whiners about taxes being too high are people who can afford their taxes to go up,""
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Spoken like a true liberal. The creepiest part of the people that think this way, they really believe your money is not really yours at all. Its always theirs to tell you how to spend it when they want to.

It is truly amazing that you would write such a response after all the bellyaching by right wingers that the public employees' salaries are paid by the taxpayers, therefore, the money is really the taxpayers' not the public employees'. Again, thank you for proving to everyone the stupidity of such statements. Your self-righteous comments have come back to haunt you again. I am confident that you and a number of other posters will follow Walker to his jail cell because you refuse to accept the truths laid before you. I can only hope there aren't too many such idiots in the state.

BigMike....You are aware that during Doyle's last term, that Doyle and the Democrats pushed through a billion in tax increases, in under 24 hours with no public hearings, while completely shutting out anything to do with the Republican agenda(with every Republican voting against Doyle's bill) If that is your idea of working together and compromising, there isn't any possible way of having a rational discussion. The idea that Walker divided the state is laughable......Walker's election was the result of an already divided state.......

Fear.......just read your little rant.....
First of all, I never said the pensions weren't theirs......I said that they are funded by the taxpayer, which is true.
Second, We already pay some of the highest residential real estate taxes in the country.....We got to this point, with people like you saying, "oh, it's just another $100 a year"......Your comment , "If it is maybe we should take into account that those people bought too much home for their lifestyle(personal responsibility) or quite possibly they are just being greedy and whining too much." could just as easily be applied to the public employees, who continue to demand that that the taxpayers cover their pensions, HC premiums and raises in a recession....couldn't it??Enough is enough....
Third, here's where the real disconnect is, your comment, "The GREAT MAJORITY of whiners about taxes being too high are people who can afford their taxes to go up, and you well know it! I see these people that have Scott Walker signs up in my very nice neighborhood on the NE side of Janesville200-500k homes driving 2-3 trucks having 2 harley davidsons, etc..." is telling of how completely out of touch you are. I'm happy that in your neighborhood of half million dollar homes, complete with new trucks and new Harleys zooming all over the place, you can pass judgement on what's going on with the rest of us. Let me clue you in on something. I can't think of anyone I know with a half million dollar house, even the ones who have houses worth close to $200K are few and far between. Many of us are struggling to save for our own retirement and the constant "tax to the max" call of the liberals is now seriously being rebelled against. I understand the selfishness that kicks in. You have mentioned that family and friends of yours who work in the public sector benefit from the perks discussed here. You don't want to let that go but, as I said, enough is enough--thankfully there are more and more people with this mindset standing up and saying just that......

I posted this in another thread and thought I should post it here too.

When I read the comments here it really shows how divided our state has become. With Thompson and Doyle as Governors, things got done. Parties were able to work together and compromise. Now some people will say that during that era problems were simply kicked down the road for future legislators to deal with. And while this may be true, both sides of the aisle helped pass those bills that created this situation. Discussions were had, deals were made, hands were shook and government worked. People were willing to cross party lines for good ideas and what was good for the people of Wisconsin. Folks, that is no longer the case. You have Democrats and Republicans who refuse to work together. Legislation that may be good for all of us can't get passed because regardless of whose idea it is, the other side won't throw in the votes. Or they may say they will throw in the votes, but they want additions and pork added to the bills.
No matter who wins this election, Wisconsin is going to be a divided state for years to come.
And that is Walker's legacy. Had he taken the time to allow discussions and public input on his policies, the uproar would have been a lot less. Some of his ideas have merit. But when you force things down people's throat, they naturally rebel.
A spoonfull of sugar helps the medicine go down.
We can only hope that one day we can once again be united and that government once again becomes of the people, by the people and for the people.

bebe- today the republicants rescind defense spending cuts and move them to cuts in senior programs "meals on wheels" , medicare, food stamps, etc.... Good luck running on that one!! Screw poor and elderly people and 75 -100 billion more to war?

I agree with most of your last post bebe amazingly enough, except that Obama is dividing the people. Both sides are doing a great job of just that. If you believe its just democrats, then you are a staunch republican.
You dont believe that simpson Bowles was thwarted by the tea partiers more than anyone else in congress? They offered spending cuts vs revenue(tax increases) 10 to 1, but because so many right wingers signed Grover Norquists pledge , they said no!!
Politics is dividing America along with super pacs on both sides. If you believe its only Obama, then you are just a one sided partisan, period. Repubs have been doing the same thing since the last years of Bush! Your ignoring one side and blaming the other for everything is a PERFECT example of this!!

Oh rhetoric, you mean like the poster earlier in this thread posting "An 18% raise for teachers ni Neenah, because of Act 10"
and then when you read into the article you see how much garbage is involved with that fake headline.

The MAIN group of people that are pissing and moaning about taxes almost all seem to be wealthy. I do not see many middle to lower middle class families whining about their taxes. I certainly fall into that, and if my taxes go up every few years by a couple of hundred bucks, I certainly can afford it, and am by no means wealthy. I suggest if you cannot afford that , you would be FAR more affected by inflation in gas/food/cigarette/beer prices than your property taxes. What I find is the absolute hyteria created by certain posters over what would amount to an extra 10-35 dollars a month depending on how valuable your home is. Clas Warfare? Repubs are the creators of class warfare. "Stop punishing my success" , they cry, "Dont raise my taxes, I only make 150k a year!!" I cannot afford another 500 bucks to mainain quality schools, clean streets and good levels of law enforcement.
I think what so many forget is that public workers deseerve raises, just like hard working people in the private sector. The culprit to the cost of public employees? The ONDERFUL insurance companies that have gotten away withj hyperinflating the cost of insurance policies!! Where o where is the right wing outrage directed at them? None, because all right wing outrage is fake, and meant to drive the masses, nothing else.

Sine the typical right wing repeaters are o here calling everyone else names with no stats to back up their repeated rhetoric. Please explain how it is at all ethical that 66% of all businesses dont pay any income tax? In all of your hooting and hollering about me being a "Left-wing liberal" you said NOTHING about so many businesses escaping paying their share, why is that? Does business not use government services? Please help me understand. Especially since it is the belief of many right winger that businesses are iun fact people. If they are just that, then sghould they not pay taxes on income? Why should that burden be further shifted to the property tax payers?
I also wonder why we are taxed at the lowest rate in 60 years , than why all of the "dont ever raise my taxes" rhetoric? We pay less now than ever in most of our lifetimes!! I grow tired of the same tired arguments. If you truly dont want YOUR taxes to rise then lets start asking business to pay their way as well. Just because they are employers , shouldnt give them tax-free status like churches. I grow so tired of certain groups getting special treatment all the time.

In one hand RAF and bebe want taxes to go down and in the other they are just fine with the bribery and legalized extortion that private business performs when holding states hostage to build them new facilities , pass right to work(for less) laws, and give them tax gifts. Where is the fake outrage from them on these collossal wastes of tax dollars? Aparantly the only wastes of tax dollars to people like these are making sure our educators, firefighters , and police have decent wages/benefits/pensions. THAT is my issue, misdirected false rage. Typical Fox news republitards.

"The GREAT MAJORITY of whiners about taxes being too high are people who can afford their taxes to go up,"
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Spoken like a true liberal. The creepiest part of the people that think this way, they really believe your money is not really yours at all. Its always theirs to tell you how to spend it when they want to.

We have high p[roperty taxes because over 2/3 of businesses in this state pay no income taxes!! Why do you continue to ignore that fact? The tax burden is high because Business not only extorts our government for tax gifts , they dont pay income taxes!! The property tax payers are hoding them up!!

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/stat...

I would also contend 916 that my MAIN point was addressing some false point put forth about 18% raises given to some teachers as some part of act 10 "working". An absolute BS piece of trash put forth by another ideologue on this website. Someone who obviously either didnt read the article, or just decided that he wanted to put forth the false rhetoric to score some dumb political points that might convince someone who didnt know better, and someone that didnt follow the link read the article and understand how much BS that really is.

And you continue to talk about a "taxpayer funded" pension. Its called total compensation 916. Part of their package. They perform a service and are compensated for it. The pensionis theirs and hardly the reason for the budget problems in this state.
And again you fail to mention that I am in FAVOR of them contributing to said pension. And you also fail to mention that the sob stories about "making ends meat" are simply ridiculous. Peoples taxes rising a hundred bucks in a given year are not preventing them from putting food on the table. If it is maybe we should take into account that those people bought too much home for their lifestyle(personal responsibility) or quite possibly they are just being greedy and whining too much. The GREAT MAJORITY of whiners about taxes being too high are people who can afford their taxes to go up, and you well know it! I see these people that have Scott Walker signs up in my very nice neighborhood on the NE side of Janesville200-500k homes driving 2-3 trucks having 2 harley davidsons, etc... So tell me a few more sob stories from the overtaxed wealthy from my neighborhood, or from Waukesha, Ozaukee, Washington counties which are in the wealthiest .5% in the ENTIRE Nation!! ENOUGH with this show of sympathy for these people who can well afford some "modest" increases in property taxes.

Maybe, 916wi, you can ask Scott Walker where he suddenly found $100 million dollars for Milwaukee's poorest neighborhoods just before his recall elections?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/20...
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"Even more surprising is the astonishing resemblance between the Walker scheme and the series of measures put forth by President Obama as the Governor’s proposal involves reoccupying foreclosed and vacant properties while making loans and venture capital money available to small businesses and industrial developers.

Of course, Scott Walker had been a vocal opponent of such proposals when uttered by the President.

In noting the transparent effort, commentator Bob Cesca points out that some of the money will also go toward revitalizing the area’s transportation industry which, as Cesca notes, is “particularly amusing, as it was Governor Walker who led the charge to reject federal stimulus funds allocated for the state to revitalize transportation. Funds which the state of Wisconsin would later have to cover themselves absent the federal grant.”
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This man is a complete and utter political hack, no different than the people that the right wing nut jobs rail against on a daily basis.

"Maybe the levels are unsustainable because like Janesville Neenah has a conservative leaning School Board that refuses to raise taxes at any cost."
Possibly because Wisconsin has some of the highest residential property taxes in the country already? While you apparently(and insultingly) think struggling middle class homeowners are spending their extra income on 12 packs of beer, I would bet that there are many of them out there living paycheck to paycheck doing everything they can just to make ends meet--not even considering the fact that they don't have a taxpayer funded pension to fall back on.....

I concur wholeheartedly with you on that, LincolnTruman. When I said "a few" I meant about 3. That is pretty much the same as none in a country of 300 million people. It is a nice little park, Turtle Creek is charming in many ways. There are two steel bridges, one upstream of the park and one downstream of the park. They were built in 1887 or so, you are probably aware of them, but they help to give a feeling of the history of the State and the area.

Maybe the levels are unsustainable because like Janesville Neenah has a conservative leaning School Board that refuses to raise taxes at any cost. SO enjoy your twelve pack Nenahians, because your kids will grow up dumber than their parents, and in Neenah, that is saying something.

More:""Employees could “buy up” to a point-of-service health plan, which is the district’s current base plan. They also could “buy down” to a plan with no employee premium contribution but higher deductibles.

A major section of the policy manuals regarding early retirement benefits was removed from consideration and will be decided this fall, after review by a 25-member committee.

Neenah’s current retirement benefits can total more than $300,000 for a teacher and more than $350,000 for an administrator. The benefits are in addition to those earned through the Wisconsin Retirement System.

District Administrator Mary Pfeiffer proposed last month that the district’s retirement benefits be capped at $99,000 for future retirees.

The proposal drew opposition from Neenah employees, many of whom view the benefits as deferred compensation for accepting less in salaries over the years.

Neenah’s early retirement benefits cost Neenah taxpayers about $4.5 million annually and, if left unchecked, would increase to more than $10 million annually by 2032. Pfeiffer said the level of benefits is unsustainable.
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More:""Vicky Holt, assistant district administrator of central services and human resources, said the jump in salary is designed to recruit top talent to Neenah.

“Our base salary had been lower for quite some time, so our board really wanted to bring it up to where some of the other districts are,” Holt said.

The base salary for teachers in Appleton is $38,241.

The changes in health insurance and salary are included in new policy manuals that govern employment for administrators, teachers, exempt staff and support staff.

Neenah will offer a high-deductible health insurance plan with a health savings account as its base offering starting Jan. 1.

The maximum out-of-pocket cost to employees, including premium contributions, deductibles and co-pays, will be $1,100 for a single plan and $2,572 for a family plan.
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From the article:
""Taxpayers will save $1.8 million annually under a new health insurance plan for school district employees adopted Tuesday by the Board of Education.

The board also raised the base salary for teachers to $40,500 — an 18 percent increase from the current base of $34,319 — effective July 1.

For Neenah teachers who currently earn less than that, the district will raise their salary to $40,500. The catch-up pay will cost taxpayers $126,000 next year

And of course what "lovemycountry"leaves out is that 18% "raise" i only for base salary of the lowest paid teachers. At the same time they shift to a high deductible health plan which will have a very large out of pocket expense for families. Of course they will decrease the maximum retirement benefit by 70%!! Is that the changes we would like to implement? HUGE increases in out of pocket health insurance for teachers families. HUGE decreases in pensions , all while propigating that we are somehow giving teachers an 18% raise?? Ummmmm the only ones getting your raise are first year teachers moving their salary from 34 to 40k a yr. No one else is seeing this raise. Time to take your head out of your "clouds" and READ the whole article. Or maybe you did and you are a part of this ridiculous propaganda machine that is starting to rival that of 1930's germany.

"They're pretty much untrustworthy and not worth much of anything."-LincolnTruman@5:23pm

That is pretty much true, LincolnTruman. However, I am sure there are a few of them somewhere in this country that are good people.

What you see on here are the vocalizations of the fanatical, lunatic fringe. Their thoughts are driven by a hatred of those who might have a little bit more than they do, they see this Walker and his handlers as a way to get even with those who they hate, this hatred driven by simple jealousy.

Walker and his handlers appeal to the base undesirable instincts of the human condition, those being jealousy, hatred, and greed. They think that Walker and his handlers are going to share with them what they steal and plunder from the middle class. In their mind, this is their way of being able to steal from their fellow citizens legally. They are not intelligent enough and are driven so hard by this fanatical hatred of those who are doing better than they are, they are unable to see that they are simply useful idiots for Walker and his gang. They are not at all unlike Lenin's stooges.

Neenah taxpayers will save $1.8 million thanks to new insurance plan and new teachers will see an 18% raise thanks to collective bargaining changes. http://www.postcrescent.com/article/2012...

Forbes magazine highly questions Walker's intentions. He is worried about out of state money because he is spending out of state money and taxpayer dollars left and right. Who paid for the billboards claiming his job creation and asking us to call & thank him. If I learn those campaign ads were paid for with taxpayer money I will be more disgusted with him than ever. Read what Forbes just published about our governor: http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/20...

@che- Your most recent post is complete clip and paste nonsense.

che, calling people "my lad"...just like a typical, condescending repukelican.

Barrett will win in June and Obama will win in November. I can't wait for both!

The normal spin doctors are at it again!! See you at the ballot box in June!! Dont forget that Walker only beat Barrett by a tad over a 100K in the last general. Which means he needs a tad over 60K to filp the election? I think that should be a relatively easy task.
The funny thing is that so many of you act like Walker just dominated the last election!! It just didnt happen! He is the most polarizing figure in the states history, next to McCarthy. He hasnt won any new votes, the fact is that it all comes down to turnout! Poo poo it all you like, spin it everyday, make assumptions , do what you will, just vote then we'll see. anything else is speulation, nothing more.

Milwaukee County's job loss rate under County executive Scott Walker mirrors the job loss rate for the state under his misleadership - while other states are gaining jobs. Those who ignore the past are condemned to repeat it.

@libertybelle- Tom Barrett did not lose the election in 2010 because of his record in Milwauke. He lost because the Tea Party staged a well engineered campaign against him and conveniently left out Walker's record as Milwaukee Exec. Now that the people of Wisconsin know the facts, we may very well have a different outcome. The Tea Party is losing ground every day.

Tom Barrett lost in the state 2 years ago because of his abysmal record in Milwaukee. Wisconsin is in better shape then when Doyle left it and Milwaukee is worse.
We came out Mr. Truman as a signature in support of Governor Walker. Those of us who know he was on the ballet in the Democratic Primary.

Just stopping by, how naive are you???? You Dems were split down the middle on who to pick. Now you guys are all starting to argue amongst yourselves about how Falk would have been a better choice-yet you guys voted for Barrette. Majority of conservatives knew Walker had this in the bag-no question of him winning again. I think you'll be shocked when Walker walks away with a majority of votes...yet again. Then we'll have to listen to all the whining about hwo Falk would have been able to beat him, and how life isn't fair, etc...all the way up to us voting obuma out of office. 2012 will be the end....for liberal thinking in America.

Why am I not surprised that the Cuckoo birds are out in full force today with their right wing rants about Obama and the " unwashed" taking advantage of all of us? Scary really.

I think Falk and the unions should raise a bunch of money and recall Barrett because he did not promise as many govt solutions as Falk! Perhaps a recall Barrett primary where only registered democrat union members can vote since they have the most gain? Then just to make it fair--only union members will be allowed to vote in the general election of Falk v Walker.

The Obama him self may then choose to grace us with his presence....teaching the unwashed about fundamental fairness as well give Falk a lesson in job creation, unemployment, and food stamp production. Obama could promise a return to janesville of Parker pen and GM.....all those shovel ready jobs that weren't created could now be created...justintime for the 4h fair!

Walker's days are numbered and I couldn't be happier! Dems showed up with 20,000+ more votes than the Repubs, and that's with a huge chunk of people who didn't even bother because we all knew Barrett had the primary in the bag.

Start coming to terms with it now Repubs, your boy is outta there!

Kick my butt once, shame on you.
Kick my butt twice, shame on me.
Apparently Barrett didn't learn his lesson last November.

@billnewbie- Many Democrats simply didn't care who won yesterdays election. They planned on voting against Walker on June 5th no matter who won the primary.

So will we. Even more so because the media was calling this a "democrat" primary.
I'm pumped. You people floor me with your lack of message, lack of candidate, lack of ability to provide a solution to what you say is a problem. Walker wins, we all win.

Don't worry about the recall people Kay- They will be out enmasse on June 5th.

So the Democrats could only muster 670,000 or so votes yesterday? Yet they claimed to have a million signatures on the recall petitions. Where were those missing 320,000 people yesterday? If Mayor Barrett has any chance to beat the Governor this time around they better show up next month. I just don't understand, with everything that is at stake, why they didn't come out to vote yesterday? There was good weather and plenty of publicity. What happened to the missing 320k's?

RichE95
You are so right. There is a civil war alright and it's within the Democrat party. The blue fisted unions have basically taken away jobs from the blue collar tradesman.

Some totals are coming in that about 10% of Republicans crossed over to vote for a Democrat who they thought would be less of a challenge. Many didn't even vote...yet

who would have thought that a Democrat primary could get us to fired up. Yea Baby!
We never would have known how strong we were if it weren't for the fake running against Walker. Thank you occupier.

Where were all the recall petition people? Over one million?

One group that isn't reported about are blue collar and blue collar workers who support Scott Walker. They realize that the foreign car driving public employee unions out of Madison are not friends of private sector workers. Tim Cullen, Tom Barrett and their allies cared not at all about the union jobs that would have been created if the mining bill had passed. The sad fact has always been that union leaders, especially the UAW in Janesville, care more about their Madison friends than real workers. Sheridan proved it, Cullen proves it, Barrett proved it, and all those non union cars with Recall stickers prove it. They have worked to kill jobs in Wisconsin because of their hatred toward Scott Walker.l

@rich- Your post stated; "The fact that Scott Walker got more votes virtually unopposed than all the Democrats combined in absolutely stunning!"

The results were posted.
Democratic Governors race- @ $670k (all democrats combined)
Republican Governors race- @ $647k ( All republicans)
Where was your information coming from?

blah blah blah. I voted 'none of the above'. Let's be honest, it doesn't matter. It's one sides control or the others, and neither work for you and I. One of them is a wolf and one of them is a bear. Either way they are both wearing sheeps clothing.

LMFAO!

Fellow liberals; Do not let these evil, free society loving , reap the benefits of your own hard work conservatives take away our hope of replacing Scott Walker, the man that took away our right to pillage and abuse the taxpayers of Wisconsin. We need to keep our fellow liberals in the fight to replace this outdated democratic society with a wonderful Socialist empire that embraces mediocrity and a lifestyle where the government will take care of you and all of your needs. Think about it for a moment; if you don’t want to work, don’t; don’t worry about saving money for retirement, the government will take care of you, don’t take care of yourself, no worries, the government will give you healthcare, we will drop the immigration laws and let anyone in if they promise to vote for us. We will take care of all your concerns, just vote Democrat and let us take from the productive members of society and give to you and your family.
How can anyone vote for people that want to live within their means, protect the country from outside dangers, protect the election process through voter identification, protect the unborn, safeguard the tradition of marriage, shelter people from over taxation, provide for a strong military and a lifestyle that rewards people for risk and hard work. These Tea-Party Republicans want to stop our endless spending and demand that people work and take care of themselves the best they can…what are they thinking? If you support the principles of not working, living off welfare, removing all the morals in our society, throwing away unborn children as a way of birth control, continue to throw money at the problems instead of solving the problems, we ask for your continued support of our platform by voting Democrat.

The fact that Scott Walker got more votes virtually unopposed than all the Democrats combined in absolutely stunning! The real story is the huge number of independents who may not have voted for Scott Walker in 2010 who voted for him Tuesday. These silent people recognize and object to a Democrat tantrum that will cost taxpayers $ 20 million. The respect the normal election process which allows for a vote every four years. Democrats and Unions have shown no respect for normal Democratic processes. They do so at their own risk.

@ Fear Gov. Walker only had a token candidate running against him. There was little incentive for Republicans to get out and vote. The recall election numbers will be a lot different. The Democrats had a more contested battle on their hands, so it only makes sense that they would turn out in bigger numbers. What many are forgetting is there are many Walker supporters that actually went out and voted for Falk, seeing her as an weaker challenge for Walker. I see this as a total win for Walker, and think giving Barrett a do over is a waste of taxpayer money. I say we start a campaign to RECALL the RECALL.

Congratulations!
I'll bet you have already moved into the West Wing.

My grassroots movement is gaining speed. I can confirm that I received 2 votes for Lt Governor.

Next stop THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!

(of course, I already live in a white house. )

Democratic vote- @ 670k
Republican vote- @ 647k

@useret- I don't understand how unions
"lost". The total democratic vote for Governor exceeded Walker's total vote count by about 20,000 votes.

""Intresting over 900,000 signed the recall but but not even 2/3 voted in the Democratic primary. Where did the others go?""

1.2 million voted for Scooter in the last election and less than half came out and stood with him yesterday, what gives? I thought they were looking forward to voting for him again. I guess only half of them were.

Good man. I hope he wins!

The unions could not even win the primary. Tom Barrett has the same miserable record he ran on in 2010 if not worse. He is very lucky Milwaukee is a city of Democrats.

Unions lost! People Won!

Walker, Walker, Walker, Walker!!!
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MOVING THE GREAT STATE OF WISCONSIN "FORWARD"

Counting the days until June 5. We need something new to argue about.

Tick tock tick tock hey Koch-Bros you here that that’s the sound of time running out on your boy. When he loses on June 5 in 27 days from now I bet you and every other rich man will parachute out and leave Walker high and dry then will have one big lave when you head out of our State. We are one step close to ending all this **** let’s be sure we get it right this time.

One can't help but wonder just how sympathetic Mr Barrett will be to those Public Employee Unions that spent over $5M of their members money trying to beat him. Congratulations to the teachers and public employee unions for getting 37% of the vote for their hand puppet.

Studs - Better watch what you say about anyone spending more time out of state than in state. Wasn't there a few Democratic senators who skipped out of state to IL and weren't in WI doing their jobs? I suggest you not throw stones.....

frodfan - you think there aren't any negative ads against Walker from Barrett? Who are you kidding? You are so bias, it's pathetic. You need to get your head out of the sand before the tide comes in.

"Intresting over 900,000 signed the recall but but not even 2/3 voted in the Democratic primary. Where did the others go?"-joker@1:22am

Very asture observation, joker. It is obvious that the republicans will easily win on June 5. Therefore the Republican voters can rest easy, those who don't feel like voting or are unable to on June 5 don't have to worry. Stay home on June 5, Walker will win without your vote, don't worry.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here joker...and why does this number mean anything in relation to the final tally on 06/05/12?

Conjecture all you want.

Let's talk again on June 6th.

Intresting over 900,000 signed the recall but but not even 2/3 voted in the Democratic primary. Where did the others go?

And your point is?

That is, of course, if you couldn't hear the "l" in Falk and thought it rhymed with hawk. Your posts always make people think...although maybe not in the way that you would like them to think.

The Democrats got 66.7% of the number of 2010 election votes in the primary, compared to the Republicans getting 57.3% of number of 2010 election votes. I wonder how many Republicans crossed over and voted for Falk in the primary? If it is a significant number, then the race might not be as close as people think it will be. Part of the difference is probably because the Democrats had a serious choice to make, versus the Republicans solidly supporting Walker.

The Democrats got their best possible outcome for the recall vote, which was to put up the guy who lost by 123,000 votes to Walker in 2010, which isn't saying much.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepoliti...
2010 election results:
Walker 1,128,159 52%
Barrett 1,005,008 47%
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2,133,167

http://www.todaystmj4.com/elections

Tom Barrett 390,109 58.2%
Kathleen Falk 228,940 34.2%
Kathleen Vinehout 26,926 4.0%
Doug La Follette 19,461 2.9%
Gladys Huber 4,842 0.7%
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670,278

Scott Walker 626,538 96.9%
Arthur Kohl-Riggs 19,920 3.1%
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646,458

wislady - Falk is actually spelled with an l not a w. She's not a bird of prey. Jeez. THAT pretty much sums it up doesn't it?

RAF...FYI... Only numbers that matter is the tally on 06/05/12.

And that could very well be the license plate number on the moving van in front of the Govs mansion.

Interesting watching the pundits try to make claims on numbers, all the while ignoring how they couldn't even get out the people who signed the recalls to vote in their primary.

Koch_Bros, you uber-wealthy guys don't actually belong to the GOP, do you? I thought you just use the GOP faithful to pass the legislation that benefits you financially. Sorry if I'm giving away any trade secrets...

Yes, fear. I didn't give Gladys Huber to the Republicans as I thought it would upset wislady, donnaw and RAF to call her a fake Democrat. Many Republicans were outspoken about ARTHUR KOHL-RIGGS being a fake Republican, so I doubt any of the Republicans would complain about moving his votes to the Democrat column.

And on Lugar...yes, Republicans gave Lugar the boot tonight. The homophobic, xenophobic, tea party Republicans are purging the GOP down to nothing more than a minority fringe party of angry, old, white, Christian ultra-conservatives.

Lets not forget 99% is in, waukesha county district still out there?

I added them up as well poobah , I got 47421 difference adding the votes for Gladys Huber (fake Democrat) to Mr Walker and giving the votes for Arthur K Riggs(including mine) to the Democrats. Still right around 50K difference. Actually still pretty close.
I am looking forward to more commercials of trucks driving up hills from the Walker administration. Hopefully their mass money pits can do better than that. Better than some weird lady doing fake searches on Tom Barrett. With the amount of money they have they could make Mission Impossible 5 and release it the week of the election!

Dick Lugar in Indiana got booted? WOW!
Another gay rights bill voted down in NC? Funny what happens when you ask for a majority vote on Minority rights, especially when its driven by silly religious zealots. Case in Point: Watched Nightline on ABC tonight a financial guru went all over to many very popular/famous super/mega Christian churches (Mainly in the South, no shocker) pushing an investment system based in Faith. What happened next? Individual families gave this snake oil salesman EVERYTHING!!!!! And they are on TV saying,"We forgive him, we just put it in the hands of God." You have to be kidding me!! Their home is in foreclosure and hundreds of thousands of their money has disappeared, like the advisor has disappeared. THESE are the people that vote down Gay marriage bans.
My main question is, outside of the ridiculous biblical garble, why do you care who marries who?

With 99% of the vote counted, candidates running in the Democrat gubernatorial primary have received 17,537 votes more than candidates running in the Republican gubernatorial primary. If you believe all of the conservatives who claimed ARTHUR KOHL-RIGGS was a fake Republican and tally his votes with the Democrats, then the Democrats tallied 56,719 votes more than Republicans. Scotty has reason to be very concerned for his career as governor.

I'm also very happy with the number of votes tallied for Walker's challenger, ARTHUR KOHL-RIGGS. With 99% of the vote in, Arthur has polled a higher percentage of votes against Walker than Secretary of State Doug LaFollette has garnered in the Democrat gubernatorial primary!

whz_bng....do you even know the legal requirements for Walker to establish a legal defense fund? Which he did so, some time ago. Didn't think so.

Educate yourself.

I see that the dems turned out in higher numbers today, ever so slightly. Also seeing Lori Compas had a rather large win in the primary over the fake dem. I really didnt see that coming. It will be interesting race , more so than I thought that is for sure.
Unfortunately the dems failed IMO to put forth a strong candidate here. I am no fan of Barrett. I would vote for Bozo the clown over Scott Walker, but that being said, Barrett is not the candidate I wanted to see in a state FULL of strong candidates that certainly could have ensured that Walker was unseated. Reminds me of the Repubs on the presidential side. Epic FAIL.

The most corrupt governor we've ever had, and he spends more time out of state than he does in our state. It's time for your walking papers, Walker.

wiggle, do you have an inside track accusing someone of a crime? So far they have not been able to dig up any dirt a year later.

lovemycountry- how many times do we need to say ....... it's not about collective bargaining, many of us aren't fans of unions. But we'd rather have unions than an idiot and more than likely a criminal. Even if walker pulls this election off, ten bucks says he'll be indicted in the John Doe case within a month of the recall.
This time I will vote for the Right Guy - Barrett!

WEAC probably regrets throwing $4.3 million into the Fawk campaign over the last 45 days....but it was for the children.

Strike three Falk your out lol. Just remember this is the choice that was made i hope it was worth all the **** we went through to get to this point. Hey Walker don't make promises you can't keep. Why because there is no guarantee when it comes to elections and on June 5th 28 days from this primary a lot can happen between now and then. And we will see how the people will decide.

Yes, poor Tom....for he will inherit Walkers mess.

But he is up to the task of righting the ship.

Poor Tom.

Nothing but negative ads from the Walker cabal tonight. Why anyone would want Walker to continue this selling of Wisconsin and our kids future is beyond me.

Wislady is never classy about her remarks, or logical, or truthful, but she does get overtime pay for doing her paid posting job after regular business hours.

I haven't seen such a liar and fraud since Tricky Dick Nixon. Walker is NUT.

Let the Fear and rhetoric for dummies begin, thank for a civil start to it, Darlene Winkisnotevenclosetoalady

This is win win for me ACT 10 will not go away even if Barrett wins, he is not that ambitious and also used it successfully in Milwaukee.

The union bosses' handpicked Falk candidate didn't win. Their string of losses continues.

The Barrett Record

http://www.tomthetaxer.com/

Well, that was fun watching!

Now Tommy Taxer Barrett can start talking about how many jobs he created, and the clean water in Milwaukee.