justchillen- I agree both are to provide something between the two of them but it appears one or the other just say "oh well" and proceeds!
A great pic on FB today. The gov isn't your babies daddy!!

What Planned Parenthood Actually Does:
Contraception=35%
STD Treatment and Testing=35%
Cancer Screening and Prevention=16%
Other Womens Health=10%
Abortion Services=3%
Other Services=1%
Have we all forgotten that it takes two to make a baby. Men should be just as responsible for their contraception as well and not assume that women should be solely responsible for birth control. Remember that old adage: Better to be safe than sorry. It works both ways.

"Planned parenthood is needed to provide birth control for the poor or the poor will keep having babies that they can't feed, cloth or educate."
intersting comment- WISH they would actually use the birth control. More kids more free moeny! I think if they gave one a certain amount no matter how many kids the "more kids more money bus" may not stop by any more.
Also abortion should not be used as "birth control" seems a lot of "planned parenthood places" do this A LOT.

It's the sign of the times Paul, we live in a time where good is called evil and evil is called good, and no truth only liberal relativism. The Greatest Generation is in shock about these times as well, I am also.

Mitt, didn't win......

dtb, always and frogger- I don't see the two parties working together anytime soon. I am neither repub or demo, I'm an American who cares deeply for my fellow Americans.
Mitt is so out of touch with reality and the POS is killing America with this massive debt. Only difference between the two, one cares and one is self centered.
Welfare, food assistance, unemployment insurance is necessary as well as Social Security and medicare. Planned parenthood is needed to provide birth control for the poor or the poor will keep having babies that they can't feed, cloth or educate.
Welfare needs MAJOR overhauling, tax write offs for the wealthy needs to be overhauled.
Repubs complain about the poor getting tax payer money to survive, demo's complain about the millionaires getting tax write offs to hide in swiss acounts to dodge paying taxes. Mitt thinks the poor and vets feel they are entitled to gov help but he doesn't feel they are, as well as most far out there repubs. Yet Mitt thinks HE and most rich repubs feel THEY are entitled to gov help in the form of tax write offs.
What America needs is for both corrupt parties to disappear and get leaders that live on 50,000 to 70,000 a year like most of us Americans. Until then neither side will ever agree to work together and will always blame the countries problems on the other side.

Wiggle I understand your view point, but it is like you saying "you don't know me or my situation" you also don't know the person you are yelling at. Mitt didn't win, that fight is over. We all need to work together and as long as you look at this as a fight, how do you expect the rep. and dems. to get along? I get your fustration, but in my view and there are people I know getting $8,000 tax returns and are getting other assistance. I also earn a business and understand the reason the "rich" pay less tax is due to the deductions they can take as a businessowner. I'm sure you are taking that same deduction by deducting your payroll and other expenses. Maybe the extra wealthy shouldn't be able to take the same deductions because their profit is more than yours and mine. It would be great if they lived by the Buffet rule, but shouldn't they be allowed the same deductions we are allowed? I work hard, and try hard but don't make the profit others may but I'm still trying. Don't be mad at me or anyone else for trying to make a dollar or two. I'm sure Obama and Barnett are deducting all they can as well. All those people that donated thousands/millions to the presidental campaign are writing those deductions off on their taxes I'm sure.

frogger, Mittens pays a tax rate of 15% on all of his income. He doesn't actually work, all his income comes from capital gains (investments). I bet that's less than you pay on the highest dollars you earn.

BYW- I am middle class or what I think is middle class. Living paycheck to paycheck like most people. Also congrat on your own business. That is good. A scary thing too. If the government woudl just stop spending like we are rich maybe that woudl help. Most of us since 2008 have had to make changes so why doens;t the goverenment?

Saw this first hand. Tha tis how. You are correct maybe a single mom wouldnt get welfare for $25k per yr and maybe you didn't know you could. But a married couple with FOUR kids on $25 k does.
So how much does Mitt make. Isn't he at 40% tax rate. Prob about the same as PRES!? So then when you pay taxes on you HUGE house and interest on that HUGE house and have abusiness and can write off that stuff and give LOTS to charity. I bet he STILL pays taxes. I keep hearing this he doesn't pay tax bla bla bla- or pays less than me bla bla bla. Doubt it! I see Obama is no better because I still pay lots of tax and get a refund but still is a lot of tax.

Froggie - you need to pull your head out of the fishes mouth your stuck in.
I raised my child as a single, educated mom making less than 25,000 a year. At that pay you DO NOT get food stamps, free health care, 8,000 a year back in taxes. Where do you complete idiots get this from? Oh Yeah mitten boy. I paid a higher tax rate than your Gods and didn't get one drop of gov help.
I now own my own business, make over what mitten thinks is middle class pay, and still pay more in taxes than he does. Only difference - I HIRE employees not shut down the companies and lay off Americans. Complete idiots you all are! Live in the real world with real middle class people trying to survive, until then keep your ignorance to yourself.

wiggle- and why should a family making $25,000 a year and GETTING welfare and free health care get $8000 back in taxes??? I know you wouldn't put that much in when only making $25,000 a year. Why because there is a deduction for mortgage and property tax and FOUR kids. So I ask again why it is fair to get that much money back when THE TAX PAYERS ALEREADY pay for lots of free stuff for you.
I would have to assume Mitt pay WAY more percentage in taxes than you or I but those charity deductions can be written off so he will get some of that back. Make some charity donations of your own, buy a house, etc- they add up so you'll pay less tax at the end of the year.

donnaw
Nov 11, 2012 at 5:15 a.m.
"we can always raise taxes again to at least make the interest payment.."
First off it's your God walker who does the - take out loans and only pay the interest payments.
And why is it so hard for you repubs to understand that if EVERYONE paid the same tax rate the debt would be less. Why should I pay more in taxes than mitten boy? Why should the middle class be the only ones responsible to pay the debt created by Bush handing billions to bankers to go on their caribbean vacation party to hand out million dollar bonuses of tax payer money yet not pay a dime in taxes on it placing the burden on the middle class.
You know the middle class right? Your Mitten boy says you all make 250,000 a year ya know, bahahahahahahaha
Mitten hasn't a clue about the middle class, you know those who make 50,000 - 70,000 a year working for a company he buys up and shuts down and takes the millions he made in the deal, ships it to his swiss accounts so he doesn't have to pay taxes on it. Mitten boy and his millionare buddies could pay the tax rate their maids pay and the debt would be more manageable. But go shove your head back up walker and mittens behind and enjoy the smell.

dtb...do you know the difference between debt and deficits? Obviously Obama doesn't either. He has failed to have a budget the last few years and the one budget he did purpose was shot down by all the dems in the senate. And news flash for you. Cheney is no longer the VP. But we could mention a few of the gaffes said recently by the current VP, wanna go there?

"Debt? Who cares? Lets spend some more money we don't have....we can always raise taxes again to at least make the interest payment...but then again so what?"

"Deficits don't matter" - Dick Cheney

If that happens schnibble, I'm confident the majority of Americans will see why...AGAIN.

lol, keep echoing msnbiasc.

RetAF..budget? What does that mean to a democrat. Money grows on trees, doncha think? Debt? Who cares? Lets spend some more money we don't have....we can always raise taxes again to at least make the interest payment...but then again so what? We want a Hollywood junkie and a Chesire cat who had a lobotomy to lead us!

Perhaps the US senate can begin to do their constitutional responsibility and pass a national budget, something they and this administration has FAILED to do for the last 3 1/2 years.

Filibuster bad, running to the clock tower good. Typical hypocrisy from the do as I say not as I do fringe left dem party.

Heres a thought maybe house Republicans should waste more time in congress and have another thirty or forty votes to repeal Obamacare which is NOW law, like it or not. If the Republicans play obstructionistic politics again, they will lose the House as well.
Maybe the Senate Republicans can have 240 filibusters again, maybe thats a good idea for moving America forward? What I dont like is the Dems not making them filibuster, make them look like morons. Obstructionism is what I will call them not extremists, just obstructionists. You all loved the recall Santa because I didnt get what I wanted signs? whats the difference in the congress with what the Repubs are doing?

Hope Ryan enjoys a break after non-stop cross-country campaigning. I'm a Democrat and don't vote party line. On viewing the direction the country has been heading, I gladly voted Republican. The election result was disappointing, to have the incumbent win with a weak record and no plan. Then again, it seems most people want a celebrity as president, so they got that.
Glad Romney and Ryan got their serious message out so I could vote for them. So now Ryan, please do take a break, you deserve it.

Chief_Ten_Beers - I agree that not all democrats work well with republicans and not all republicans work well with democrats. Both sides can be accused of not compromising. However, when a group, such as the republican young guns, make it their mission to do anything to make sure that Obama isn't successfull even to the extent of jeopardizing what is good for America is totally wrong. I can understand a politician not voting for something because it is their belief or better yet their understanding what their constituents would want. I can't understand obstructionist behavior just to try and ruin a career at the benefit of the rest of American and ones constituents. Ryan is this person!
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Ryan said that who ever wins this race would tell us what direction America wants to go in. Well Mr. Ryan, Obama clearly won... let us see you act on your word and work to deliver what the American people want!

Wisconsin has one Golden Boy named Paul--only his last name is not Ryan, it's Hornung!

Chief_Ten_Beers - If you don't like extremist, then how about obstructionist? He was with Cantor and the rest pledging to not work with Obama and the democrats in anyway. There goal was to prevent him from getting re-elected. It didn't work!

Not only did Ryan lose Rock County and Janesville, he lost his own ward. His neighbors say he and his family are nice but they just don't beleive in his extreme politics. Ryan isn't a man for Janesville. He is a man for the new district which includes Walkersha. What he needs to realize is that the country spoke and has decided which way they want to go when the elected Obama/Biden. He is the one that said that this election for the president will tell what direction America wants to go in. I think he should follow his advice and change his extremist ways.

WISLADY - ROMNEY / RYAN LOST! Wake up to the facts.

Good time to reflect on the campaign money that came in and ALL of the connections. Wonder if Romney / Ryan money donors will like to see where the money actually went.

"Tagg Romney's Solamere Partner Managed Romney's Campaign Finances as a Private Consultant"

Great charts & explanation shows money trail....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/10...

Off topic, yes, but why didn't the Gazette print the results from Janesville & Rock County for the Pres election? They always have. Perhaps the thrashing Ryan took runs contrary to their story line that leads one to believe that Ryan is just soooo popular locally. Not.

Biden got rockstar treatment, he doesn't count as a Catholic, traditional anyway.

Taxpayer tab no matter who is running.

"Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., is spending time with his family in Janesville after two months in which he's had precious little time to do that, according to a spokesman."
Interesting for sure !! And just WHO has been taking responsibility for his WISCONSIN STATE DUTIES ?????

'It is still his way or the highway. He specifically said he would not bend on taxes increases'

Did you listen to the whole speech whz?? Because he said he was flexible on pretty much every other aspect. Hardly my way or the highway.

Obama has already invoked some socialism related policies, point: Faith based institutions having to file lawsuits because of the forceful attitude to adopt a healthcare policy that they don't believe in, abortafacients. Also under this administration Military Chaplains are not allowed to pray according to their dictates of their faith. These two infractions are unconstitutional.

schnibble, apparently you did not listen to Obama's little speech yesterday. It is still his way or the highway. He specifically said he would not bend on taxes increases. Market was up 80 points b4 he spoke and tanked into negative territory when he was done. I think we are looking for some bend on both sides,not ultimatums. He said the same thing 3 yrs ago when he welcomed Ryan to explain his plan for SS and medicare, then rebuked him right then and there. His attitude must change. No more we won, we rule.

My honest answer is Obama won and he should be able to work the next 4 years to do what he said he would do. I'm not sure that "the republicans" are 100 percent to blame if he doesn't do it. But they all should work together to accomplish success. When he ran 4 years ago he said he would balance the budget, yet from what has been said, he didn't. My life isn't any different than it was 4 years but I'm still trying. I don't expect the next 4 years will make it any easier, but we still keep trying.

Kind of like the Walker thing, the majority voted yet the loser.....well you know how that ended up. We do need to support the elected officals, so they can do what they promise. Balance the budget, and create a great America for all to prosper. God bless America! Gotta love us. I think Ryan (and his parents) can be proud of his accomplishments.

wislady...It is really too bad that you can not stay on topic, and use every opportunity to be a POOR LOSER. Your inability to express support for the man that most Americans chose to lead our nation for the next four years is akin to wanting our nation to fail. I really do question your patriotism!!

Gotta move all that before leaf clean up ;)

It is time to get to work, but I believe it will be another 4 years of the same. In a household when there is no money, there is no vacations. It seems in government there is always time for time off. I don't get that, they need to work until the work is done. Paul Ryan can be proud his career took him to the White House (even if it was almost). We all need to make America the great United States our forefathers meant it to be. We can all begin by praying for some amazing leaders in Washington, because that is what it will take. We need them to work for the people and not some company/people with just money in their pockets. And they have them on both sides of the parties. I think if someone stood up and said I don't have all the answers but I will sure give it a try for everyone, we might have a winner!

It will be interesting to hear what the lefties think of POTUS in 2 yrs. Can he save the economy and jobs or will he continue us on the same failed path we have been on the last 4 yrs?

I have to laugh at you lefties...all of a sudden now it's time to stop vacationing and get back to work. Obama has done little else the last year than campaign, vacation and be on lefty tv shows and you were okay with that...AND HE WAS THE PRESIDENT! No budget, no press conference in a long time. You could have rented out the white house. We have a Hollywood junkie for POTUS. You guys are something else!

when does THE RYAN GAZETTE stop?

wislady did you get from that duffelbag satire site?

That sort of thing usually only happens in Waukesha County.

I doubt any republican can get 108% of the votes in one county, as Obama did in Ohio.

There are many republicans who will be more than ready to take on the presidency, if there is anything left by 2016.

In my opinion, Ryan would need to: a) win an election state wide, either governor or senator, or b) serve in a cabinet level position of a Republican administration to enhance any real prospects of running for the oval office in the future. He is young, and has time to build his resume and national recognition. We shall see what the future holds.

schnibble
Reminder....how many years has Obama been campaigning, instead of doing his job? He didn't even miss a beat, flying to Vegas as Americans were dying at the consulate.

A losing VP candidate hasn't won the presidency since the early 1800s iirc. And it's as rare a rep jumps to the White House.

Thank you to Romney and Ryan for running a classy campaign, and talking about real problems, instead of just trash talk and lies. Too bad that some of the voters actually thought Bush was running.

Thank you Paul and family for your class, dignity and faith. I am proud to have cast my vote for you and Mitt. God Bless you all!

What he should do is stop vacationing and get himself back to Washington and take some leadership in avoiding the fiscal cliff.

he should be thinking about how he is going to represent his district, for a change. instead of collecting a check, for doing nothing.

Now that Paul's got some excellent exposure, who do you think will be the GOP pick to run for president in four years?

Campaigning must be a grueling time. I hope that Ryan has restful time to spend with the most important people in his life; his family.

Come on Paul - Dancing with the Stars?