Yeah....And Nixon said, "I'm no crook!"

Shoeboy........Come on Captain Clueless! We've been hearing that same broken record for 3 years. Either come to the table with some new material or go back to your mommy's basement!

mousezi, still living the propaganda puppet dream on a two week old article.

"By the way 916..... your statement regarding Walker thinking he is in the clear makes no sense."
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Only to a complete idiot would my comment make no sense.......Thx!

Too funny shoeboy! Yeah, according to some of you libs, walker has been half a heartbeat from going down for three years now:) While a little pathetic, at the same time it's funny watching you guys pin your only hope of getting rid of walker on this....Stay the course little man, it's entertaining if nothing else!

Yes mouse, because in the history of criminal law, the prosecution has never attempted to go after an innocent person....duh......

+1 Shoeboy.......When you have chief investigators with "recall Walker" and "union power" signs in their front yards and on their front doors, we all have little doubt that they will do anything and everything necessary to place Walker in a position where he will have to tap into his defense fund. It's going on 3 years now--they have to be getting desperate trying to find something that will stick!:)

I don't rely on clues, just facts.

Wars are the result of influence by the U.N., get the U.S. out of the U.N.

"Bush left us with 5% unemployment"

Midnight Ride, Bush left 7.6% UE, not 5% (http://dunner99.blogspot.com/2009/03/us-...). He also left us on the precipice of a depression, which required some extra federal spending; not to mention the 2 wars he left us engaged in.

Actually, I did bring up that topic, along with showing an example of a beautiful mural from another city (photos I had on my Ipad).

I did enjoy the "Coffee Time with Eric Levitt" on Monday morning at a local restaurant.

It was a nice chance to personally talk with Mr. Levitt and voice some concerns and suggestions, along with others, regarding Janesville.

RE - "Twist the comment around to whatever fits your need" - Sad & pathetic that WISLADY would say that since she is the one that does it ALL of the time. I feel sorry for you because it sounds like the Forum is your only outlet for having anyone listen to you.

The intolerant left.....gotta love em.

RetiredAirForce, well put about the left.

Where do you come up with these kooky ideas????

Twist the comment around to whatever fits your need. I feel sorry for you if you believe you are a "victim".

The 47 percent:

I am not in that category, if that was what you were trying to express.

This is the quote...

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what."
Mitt Romney

carlitosway
Your comment does not make sense.

wislady The GOP are not with you as you are in the 47$ and Obama is there for ypu and many more BUT YOU ARE TO BLIND to admit you are ever wrong on who you support. THE GOP has done nothing but destroy this country and The Veterans are non existant to the hateful ones you stand with and any other that stands with the GOP are IMO as un-American as the GOP

mouse

When was the arrest made?

The intolerant left...gotta love em.

The investigators deserve are gratitude for trying to uphold the integrity of the WI election system. They got more than they got more cockroaches than they bargained for when they turned over this rock.

Poobah, give us an example. Bush left us with 5% unemployment (not 8%)and4 tril more in debt after 8 years (not 6 tril in 4 yr). Bush left us with 1.86 for gas (not $3.50)and middle class income of $54,000.00 (not $50,000).
Tell me how, after 4 years, it's not better, or even close to the same?

I'm listening.......go!

Mouse, get serious. This is where your puppet status starts to show. "The other 9/11" was an attack where no security help was denied three times and told to "stand down" after attack started.
"The other 9/11" didn't involve a Pres and staff that lied to the American people for 14 days while cover-up was in the works to hide the cover-up about the attacks.

Layers of lies.
I'll ask you again. Your outrage about Romney's investments overseas in China where even Obama has investments was clearly posted.
I'm waiting to hear your outrage on Susan Rice's investments is Iran.
I'm listening.......go!

wislady said, "Get over Bush..."

It will take longer than any living person's lifetime for America to get over George W. Bush. His legacy has been assured by the devastating impact of his misguided leadership, foolhardy policies and wrongheaded decisions.

Mouse

Is Bush to blame for the attack today in Afghanistan also?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/0...

Get over Bush, he has not been CIC for 4 years.

Mouse, Happened on Obum's watch, also it is a coverup.

More examples of the abused safety net system.

"In 1960, some 455,000 workers were receiving disability payments. In 2011, the number was 8,600,000. In 1960, the percentage of the economically active population aged 18 to 64 years old receiving disability benefits was 0.65 percent. In 2010, it was 5.6 percent."

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/3...

"Yeah, we know it's tough."
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We? You and your other accounts?

RetiredAirForce said, "ummmm."

Yeah, we know it's tough.

RetiredAirForce said, "Don't remember the state of California leading the poverty ranks under Nixon or Reagan."

There are lots of things you don't remember -- like California poverty under Nixon and Reagan being measured using this new metric.

RetiredAirForce said, "Claiming Arrrnold is anything close to right is funny."

What I claimed is that he was a Republican governor. I hope that makes you laugh too.

ummmm don't remember the state of California leading the poverty ranks under Nixon or Reagan; claiming Arrrnold is anything close to right is funny. The honor for the first place ranking falls on the plate of the Gray, Nancy, Sandra, Dianne, the dem super majorities in the state house and senate not to mention the 38 of 53 US house seats and dem controlled city councils of the major cities of the Garden (poverty) state.

Keep spinning trolio

RetiredAirForce, I find it amusing that once you realized your "left wing socialist societies" to use your words, had decades of Republican governors, including Nixon, Reagan and Schwarzenegger, you quietly pulled back to declaring them "a dem controlled state house." How quaint.

University of Wisconsin-Madison economist Timothy Smeeding said, "As a whole, the safety net is holding many people up, while California is struggling more because it's relatively harder there to qualify for food stamps and other benefits."

RetiredAirForce said, "...the poverty in California has nothing to do with food stamps."

It's the economist quoted in the article YOU cited that you're in disagreement with. Why cite an article to make a point when you have a most fundamental disagreement with that article? Why wait until now to point out that fundamental disagreement? 

The local mamac fails to grasp the reason for the poverty in California has nothing to do with food stamps...ignoring the socialist leftist policies put in place by a dem controlled state house, for decades, has resulted in the numbers of people in poverty in that state...not the food stamp requirements. 1 plus 1 is still 2, no matter how much you twist and spin.

University of Wisconsin-Madison economist Timothy Smeeding said, "As a whole, the safety net is holding many people up, while California is struggling more because it's relatively harder there to qualify for food stamps and other benefits."

RetiredAirForce said, "The bottom line the policies of the left wing socialist societies has resulted in a very high poverty rate."

So, making it "relatively harder there to qualify for food stamps and other benefits" is now the policy of "left wing socialist societies." Yes, of course, RetiredAirForce. Your newfound position is so very contradictory with past statements by conservatives that Democrats have been giving things away for decades to buy elections (including food stamps, cash, cellphones and other benefits).

RetiredAirForce said, "I read not only the UK story, but a few US sites..."

An E for effort, but how does that change the story?

RetiredAirForce said, "If you think, yes a reach, giving away more things will lower poverty you have missed the problem and will never get to the solution."

That is the point made in the article YOU cited. As University of Wisconsin-Madison economist Timothy Smeeding is quoted in the article you cited, "As a whole, the safety net is holding many people up, while California is struggling more because it's relatively harder there to qualify for food stamps and other benefits." [ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-... ]

The local gnomo is indeed ignorant. I read not only the UK story, but a few US sites; a "few" because many decided not to run a story on how the new metrics make the left wing run states look bad. You can try to spin the results any way you want. The bottom line the policies of the left wing socialist societies has resulted in a very high poverty rate. If you think, yes a reach, giving away more things will lower poverty you have missed the problem and will never get to the solution.

RetiredAirForce, you apparently did not read why California's poverty rate, using the new supplemental metric put into effect by the Obama administration, is higher than the traditional poverty metric which was based on food prices.

As University of Wisconsin-Madison economist Timothy Smeeding is quoted in the article you cited, "As a whole, the safety net is holding many people up, while California is struggling more because it's relatively harder there to qualify for food stamps and other benefits." [ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-... ]

Did you catch that? "...it's relatively harder there to qualify for food stamps and other benefits." Oh, those lunatic fringe policies of the left wing you complain about so loudly that are turning the safety net into a hammock. Now what's your explanation for the strict qualification rules for benefits in the land of lunatic fringe left wing lapdog liberalism that result in their poverty rate being so high? The statistics you so happily now cite in an attempt to discredit liberals only prove your previous statement about safety nets and hammocks irrelevant. Your very own data contradicts your prior position when you said, "These were designed to be safety nets not hammocks. The system needs a protection mechanism for those in need to help them out so they can get back out on their own. Not a system that allows people to subside in the programs for years and decades."

You should be applauding California for following your advice that the system not allow "people to subside in the programs for years and decades." That was, after all, YOUR suggestion. You own the suggestion, you own the results. Congratulations.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...

This is what the left wing and their policies stand for...more poor.

So, fear....

When does Obama take the oath of office and actually become the CIC, if he isn't now?

"Why would he have a pitcher of water and four bottles of water on his desk?"- an earlier poster.

I would theorize that he stole the bottles from a working man.

"Walker confident he's clear in probe"

I would think that most of the criminals in prisons were confident that they could get away with what they did also.

MBHammer said, "Remember we are all immersed in man's mess here on the planet."

To deny cause and responsibility doesn't help the situation.

poobah, things change over time, the facts I posted are correct for that time point. Remember we are all immersed in man's mess here on the planet.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/us/how...
This is what Walker stands for.

Maybe this is the failure that we should be talking about, not this silly John Doe case. This was the first act of the Walker administration:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepoliti...

12.2 million in tax dollars , POOF up in smoke. Now they're hiring some help after cutting so much for efficiency it cost us 12 million dollars.

Bowlgal said,""A closed mind is a terrible thing to waste."" Pot meet Kettle.

Funny thing about Wislady is she says"stop blaming Bush". I will right after we are OUT of the middle east. Obama isn't the one who marched up into those conflicts. Blaming deaths in Afghanistan on Obama and the "surge" that MILITARY Leaders called for, is silly even for you. Trying to figure out the reasoning behind your silly point about more deaths in Aghanistan under Obama? What are you suggesting(posting Beitbart as a source makes you look bad) that troops dont fight as hard for Obaa? Is the strategy of the Generals on the ground making the boys less safe because of Obama? Please clarify.
I also like how we shouldnt "blame" Bush for Iraq, who sould we blame? Because we should blame someone shouldn't we? You are screaming about lack of leadership and clarity aboput Benghazi(rightfully so) and yet tell us to forget Iraq. A war that cost us thousands of our best, and created a whole new generation of terrorists. How shallow are you?

Wondering where your outrage was for:
2002: U.S. Consulate In Karachi, Pakistan, Attacked; 10 Killed, 51 Injured.

2004: U.S. Embassy Bombed In Uzbekistan
2004: Gunmen Stormed U.S. Consulate In Saudi Arabia
Three of the attackers were killed. Five non-American employees were killed, an American embassy spokesman, Carol Kalin, told Reuters. She declined to provide the nationality of those killed, but said they were members of the consulate staff.
2006: Armed Men Attacked U.S. Embassy In Syria
2008: Ten People Killed In Bombings At U.S. Embassy In Yemen.

Where was the leadership? Maybe its noyt a partisan problem, a Bush problem, or ebven an Obama problem. Maybe its an American problem. Our policy has 200 bases all over the world, for what? We think we can do whatever we want , wherever we want to do it. I say it has to stop. We are not "protecting freedom" we are playing world cop and we dont have the right to do so.

Dorsai, aka Robot Lord aka SmellofSheath (deleted) aka Chief_Ten_Beers (deleted), let's hope you can keep your equanimity under fire with this username.

The issue raised by another commenter was Iraq and Afghanistan and I was responding to that comment.

You should know from our prior and numerous conversations my feelings on war and military spending and I have held Democrats and Republicans alike to task.

You were doing so well listing off all of the wars America has been involved in without a declaration of war. But your accuracy went awry when you said, "Who was president then? He was responsible for getting the U.S. into the second world war. 405,399 Americans died. What's the point? You figure it out." Is it that you forgot that Congress declared war during World War II or are you now choosing to ignore that fact?

Mouse
Nov 29, 2012 at 12:54 p.m.
By the way Bowlgal, wasn't Nixon a Republican?

Mouse, I crooked politican is a crooked politican and since you feel they are only crooked if they have an R in front and not at D tells anyone and everyone you could never see beyond two letters. A closed mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Third_Eye said, "Only congress can declare war. The vote on the Iraq War Resolution in 2003 was; House of Representatives 297 for, 133 against."

The resolution you cite is not a declaration of war. Congress never declared war on Iraq or Afghanistan. Both wars were ordered by George W. Bush acting without a declaration of war.

poobah Dec 1, 2012 at 9:06 a.m."who do you hold responsible for getting America involved in the the second Iraq war if not Bush? Are you suggesting someone else was calling the shots while he was president?"
Only congress can declare war. The vote on the Iraq War Resolution in 2003 was; House of Representatives 297 for, 133 against.
In the Senate the vote was 77 for, 23 against.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolu...

I guess you need to watch that video, as well, wislady.

MBHammer said, "I remember watching the Iraqi people in Detroit celebrating while the statue of Saddam was coming down. [...] Iraq had an illegitimate government, thus the removal of the Saddam regime became the mission."

I remember watching Donald Rumsfeld, representing President Reagan and the United States of America shaking Saddam's hand and smiling just after America handed over weapons and cash to Saddam. America supporting an "illegitimate government" with weapons and cash?

Here's the video of Rumsfeld and Saddam. You should watch it every now and then, MBHammer. [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r42oejmpk... ]

It is almost beyond comprehension that democrats and Obama can ignore his lack of leadership which led to the deaths of 4 people in Benghazi. Add to the, the number of people killed as a result of the Fast and Furious fiasco. Instead, they chose to focus on a past administration that has no power to govern over the situation going on NOW.

It is time for Obama to own his mistakes, and for the democrats and media to quit shielding him. Also, quit giving money to countries who hate us.

poobah, read & comprehend.

MBHammer said, "I remember watching the Iraqi people in Detroit celebrating while the statue of Saddam was coming down."

Cheering crowds are no way to gauge the correctness of an action. You'll recall there were crowds cheering on 9/11 as well.

“One way or the other, we
are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction
and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." –President
Clinton, Feb. 4th, 1998 Also there were the U.N. broken resolutions, even the U.N.
claimed serious actions could result, and they did, U.N.'s assessment also was
Iraq had an illegitimate government, thus the removal of the Saddam regime
became the mission, and the mission was accomplished. I remember watching the
Iraqi people in Detroit celebrating while the statue of Saddam was coming down.
They were celebrating because they understood that freedom had just been handed
to their fellow countrymen on a silver platter. No one ever assumed that the
Iraqi people living in Iraq would not understand this. As a result there was
rebellion and a war did result as we all now know, there was no “invasion"
by a few, the original mission without any declaration of war, the removal of
Saddam had the U.N.’s blessing and most of the world by the way, somehow people
forget the facts because of media pundits and hype.

wislady, who do you hold responsible for getting America involved in the the second Iraq war if not Bush? Are you suggesting someone else was calling the shots while he was president?

brotherkoch

"Confident people don't need to state it."

Stupid people need to quit asking the question.

fearandrhetoric4dummies
Get off the "blame Bush" rant. Obama needs to start to lead, he had the first 4 years of training, hopefully the apprenticeship has taught him something.

Media Ignores Increased Deaths, Casualties in Afghanistan Under Obama

What is more striking, though, is more U.S. soldiers have been killed and wounded during President Barack Obama’s first term in office than former President George W. Bush’s two terms. And the anti-war mainstream media that regularly counted the number of deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan under Bush, for the most part, has been silent on the number of deaths and casualties that have resulted under Obama.

Under former President George W. Bush, 575 American soldiers died and fewer than 3,000 were wounded in Afghanistan. This means under Obama, at least 1,405 soldiers have died and nearly 15,000 additional soldiers have been wounded, which means 70% of the deaths and nearly 80% of the injuries in Afghanistan have occurred under Obama’s watch.

In 2010, Obama sent 33,000 additional U.S. troops to Afghanistan as part of the “surge,” and Americans have been received with more hostility with each passing day. In June, Obama announced he would accelerate the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, and America would transfer security duties to the Afghans in 2014.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/...

Unfortunjately for you Bob it seems to be partisan, for me its aboutr life and death and the irrepeable damage this nation has suffered because of those two wars. Benghazi is a bad situation, but in the scope of things, Iraq/Afghanistan may be the worst mistake this nation has EVER made and we have made some pretty big ones.

Bob- I want everyone who put the fake intel out there prosecuted, as they should be. REGARDLESS of party/ideology.
I am clueless? Are you telling me that there was a legitimate need for war in Iraq? For that matter Afghanistan? You want to talk about clueless, maybe you should take a look at what those unpaid for wars have accomplished.
Well over 5,000 soldiers DEAD for what?? To fight against a mystical small group of Islamic extremists with box cutters? You buy that? Oh and don't forget that there are upwards of 20-30,000 that are maimed for LIFE!! That will ever work again, that will NEVER have a normal life. Not to mention the 500,000 plus Iraq and Afghan citizens dead and countelss families that will now hate our country for generations, and NOT because we are freedom loving Westerners. Because we murdered innocent civillians for a War that was for nothing.

Article says Walker is Confident. Confident people don't need to state it.

As far as Walker goes.....If he gets indicted, fine. If not, fine. Speculating one way or another is silly.
I like how 916 talks about a DA and his personal beliefs being some big issue, but its no problem when Justice Choker(Prosser) runs as being someone who could be a friend to Scott Walker. Thats impartiality right?

Funny all the outrage by the "adults" on the right over Benghazi. Calling for impeachment and the like. Yet no outrage what so ever about Iraq? The entire nation was COMPLETELY LIED to, THOUSANDS of our brave miltary families were robbed of loved ones, and thousands more maimed for life. No outrage at the Bush administration from you people. Condoleeza Rice was all over the news spreading the lies that marched us into Iraq. Colin Powell and the drawings of mobile weapons labs and etc, etc, etc.....These lies cost us THOUSANDS of lives, trillions of dollars and you people want impeachment because of Benghazi? I think the handling of Benghazi was terrible. To call this a watergate style coverup after just living through a decade of unfunded , truly unwarranted wars brought upon us by an administration that was hell bent on War? YOu must spare me that outrage, it is as stupid as it is sad.

I would say that if you stand for impeachment of Obama for Benghazi, you should stand for War Crimes trials for Bush, Cheney, Rice, and Rummsfeld. They are all war criminals and should be held accountable for the 5,000 plus American soldiers that died in Iraq. Anything less is an insult to the men and women who died fighting in that atrocity of a war.

Shoeboy....You can't possibly be that stupid, can you?
As even your selectively edited portion of my quote("After investigating for almost 3 years, considering the fact that Walker has had to have well over a hundred associates, staffers, aides in his roles in Milwaukee County and as the Governor of Wisconsin") pointed out, I thought I was really clear in mentioning associates, staffers and aides as being included as part of Walker's circle.
I would have thought that you understood this since people like Gardner who I thought was president and chief executive officer of Wisconsin & Southern Railroad Co--but apparently you think was employed by Milwaukee County as one of Walker's staff when mentioning "6 of 7 staff are crooks"?
You know.....don't bother answering my initial question. I think I already have the answer:)

godishere...It is a good thing that GM is selling products in China. Why not have an American company selling cars in the worlds largest auto market?

Gandalf
What about the teacher, what's the excuse for that....or doesn't it count since she wasn't "elected" either.
Are the people charged in the JD witch hunt all elected officials? That excuse doesn't work.

Quite astonishing that whenever a teacher or anyone other than Governor Walker is accused of something illegal, there is always an excuse.

Motorman

I will tell you what is disrespectful. 4 people standing with protest signs as school children sang Christmas songs. The SEIU shirt did fit in with the decor, though...it was green.

bro......Really? After investigating for almost 3 years, considering the fact that Walker has had to have well over a hundred associates, staffers, aides in his roles in Milwaukee County and as the Governor of Wisconsin, we have a total of 6 people brought up on charges. Of those 6, 2 were completely unrelated to the day to day operations in offices under Walker's oversight. Of the four left, one was charged off as a simple misdemeanor. You're left with 3 people, out of the dozens upon dozens that Walker worked with in Milwaukee County and many more than that that he now works with though the Governor's office at the state level. Quite the culture of corruption that has been exposed.......not! Keep trying though--your arguments are amusing if nothing else:)

Mouse Posted on October 24 at 10:05 a.m.
Romney has a campaign that is on a slow boat to China......The other boat he owns is faster and shipping American jobs overseas.

Rich Wealthy Susan Rice earns her green backs from Iran invested companies.

Outrage...........go! I'm listening.

Brothermouse, Benghazi Barry is the rock dweller. Can you say impeachment?

I realize it is not natural for Patriots to think things over, however even the staunchest Patriot must admit that the investigators sure are finding a lot of criminals from turning over this Walker office rock.

Sorry about the double posting=I hope the staff removes one.

Announced by Government motors.
.......................................

GM venture in China plans $1 billion auto plant
By By KELVIN CHAN
AP Business Writer / November 29, 2012

HONG KONG (AP) — General Motors Co. and its joint venture partners in China say they will spend 6.6 billion yuan ($1 billion) to build a third car plant to keep up with demand for vehicles in the world’s biggest auto market.

The SAIC-GM-Wuling venture said the first phase of the factory will open in 2015.

The plant will be capable of turning out 400,000 vehicles and engines a year. It will help the joint venture reach its goal of producing 2 million vehicles a year in China by 2015. The company said Wednesday it wouldn’t decide which models to make until closer to the start of production.

The new factory will be in Chongqing city in central Sichuan province. The venture’s other two plants are located in Liuzhou in southern Guangxi region and Qingdao, on China’s northeastern coast.

China has been the world’s biggest auto market by vehicles sold since 2009, when it surpassed the United States. Some 18.5 million vehicles were sold in China last year and automakers expect the number to rise to 30 million by 2020. Foreign automakers have been expanding in China to offset flat or declining growth at home.

But slowing sales growth in China is prompting global automakers to look for new ways to tap the faster-growing low end of the market in smaller cities and the countryside.

SAIC-GM-Wuling is benefiting as rising incomes in those areas drive demand for the mini-trucks and microvans that it’s focused on making. The venture has sold 1.31 million vehicles in China so far this year, compared with 1.28 million for all of 2011.

The joint venture, which also makes cars under GM’s only-in-China discount line Baojun, last week opened a $1.3 billion factory at its Lizhou facility to make cars for that brand.

Shanghai-based SAIC Motor Corp. owns 50.1 percent of SAIC-GM-Wuling, while GM China owns 44 percent and Liuzhou-based Wuling Motors owns 5.9 percent.

The joint venture is one of several GM has in China, where foreign carmakers are required to team up with local partners. The company’s Chinese brands include Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet and Opel as well as Jiefang and Wuling.

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Announced by Government motors.
.......................................

GM venture in China plans $1 billion auto plant
By By KELVIN CHAN
AP Business Writer / November 29, 2012

HONG KONG (AP) — General Motors Co. and its joint venture partners in China say they will spend 6.6 billion yuan ($1 billion) to build a third car plant to keep up with demand for vehicles in the world’s biggest auto market.

The SAIC-GM-Wuling venture said the first phase of the factory will open in 2015.

The plant will be capable of turning out 400,000 vehicles and engines a year. It will help the joint venture reach its goal of producing 2 million vehicles a year in China by 2015. The company said Wednesday it wouldn’t decide which models to make until closer to the start of production.

The new factory will be in Chongqing city in central Sichuan province. The venture’s other two plants are located in Liuzhou in southern Guangxi region and Qingdao, on China’s northeastern coast.

China has been the world’s biggest auto market by vehicles sold since 2009, when it surpassed the United States. Some 18.5 million vehicles were sold in China last year and automakers expect the number to rise to 30 million by 2020. Foreign automakers have been expanding in China to offset flat or declining growth at home.

But slowing sales growth in China is prompting global automakers to look for new ways to tap the faster-growing low end of the market in smaller cities and the countryside.

SAIC-GM-Wuling is benefiting as rising incomes in those areas drive demand for the mini-trucks and microvans that it’s focused on making. The venture has sold 1.31 million vehicles in China so far this year, compared with 1.28 million for all of 2011.

The joint venture, which also makes cars under GM’s only-in-China discount line Baojun, last week opened a $1.3 billion factory at its Lizhou facility to make cars for that brand.

Shanghai-based SAIC Motor Corp. owns 50.1 percent of SAIC-GM-Wuling, while GM China owns 44 percent and Liuzhou-based Wuling Motors owns 5.9 percent.

The joint venture is one of several GM has in China, where foreign carmakers are required to team up with local partners. The company’s Chinese brands include Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet and Opel as well as Jiefang and Wuling.

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Governor Walker did not do this.
But we will pay for it-you will blame him for Washington DC,s laws.....right? Everyone will be happy living at the same level. Remember you voted for "Fair share." Good luck to everyone working that belongs to a union in Wisconsin that gets paid by my property taxes. First I will pay myself before I pay you from now on. Fair, right?

GEITHNER PROPOSAL

Increase top marginal rates, capitol gains & dividends.

Additional tax increases=$600 Billion

2009-level estate tax

Multi-year(every year)stimulus package, at LEAST $50 billion in FY 2013

Permanent increase in Debt limit.

yep Red...Walker too! The cool thing about Walker's situation though is that he brought the state's legislative and judicial branches along with him!:)

poohboy.......Doesn't look like Walker is going to turn out like Nixon at all:)

"...refuse to succumb to the hate and the negativity and you'll come out of it a winner."
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That's exactly what President Obama was able to do and was re-elected!

916WI said, "...you'll come out of it a winner."

Just like Nixon.

Wislady so the Gov is going to meet with some fourth grade students? What will he speak to them about?
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Possibly-- when you believe strongly in a specific direction, stay focused and uncompromising--refuse to succumb to the hate and the negativity and you'll come out of it a winner......twice in Walker's case:)

The governor first appeared to be clear in the probe, but now it looks like he may be involved, as more credible information comes out.

Witch hunts must be a touchy subject with wishlady. ..Child enticement, illegal campaign network on the taxpayer dime, embezzlement, theft... seems like they found a lot shtuff in this investigation.

Assistant District Attorney Bruce Landgraf will be busy defending himself in a lawsuit, instead of the witch hunt he has been part of for 30 months. Will the Wisconsin taxpayers have to pay for that also?

FYI...(don't know why this isn't a story).

Madison - Gov. Scott Walker is expected to light the Capitol Christmas Tree.

The 37-foot balsam fir tree will be in the Capitol rotunda and is decorated with handmade ornaments from schoolchildren. It came from a Medford farm.

The lighting is expected to happen Friday morning.

Fourth-graders from Medford Elementary and Stetsonville Elementary schools have been invited to sing at the tree lighting ceremony.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/w...

It is interesting that comments are always open on the NON Walker crime, so people can continue to try him in the court of public opinion.

Why are comments closed on the sentencing of the Big Brother person CONVICTED?

Here is a current news article.

Former MPS teacher sentenced to federal prison for fraud

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/forme...

Career lying politicans? Benghazi Barry and the state controlled media couldn't hide Susan Rice any longer.
Exposed: This wealthy 1% has 6 figure investments in companies that do business with IRAN.

Okay left, Romney was attacked for China -

I won't hold my breathe due to left winger hyprocrisy but, Let's hear your disgust on this.

Tom Barrett and Tammy B are corrupt lying career politician's thanks to liberal dupes who reelected them.

lol Wislady.

Poor poor Scotty, media and unions have been attacking him for years, boo hoo Scotty.

...do media and unions have jurisdiction in the judicial system? Anyways -thankfully Scotty still has those outstate billionaires....or more appropriately, they have his back....for now.

We know how the repubs don't like the court system. Maybe because the courts make some of the rich accountable for their actions. In theory anyways...

Officials told Walker they would be wrapping up their investigation by the end of the week as they only had one more arrest to make. They then asked if he would be home on Friday night.

Are you serious?

The media and the unions have been nonstop on attacking Walker for several years. Why wouldn't he be prepared to defend himself if it comes to that? We know how much the liberals love the court system.

thanks for the info, wislady...but I still wonder why he had to create this fund if he is innocent? If not for himself than for whom?

916WI- it was divided prior to his election, but I don't recall any protests against the administration in the way this administration has had...and gutting environmental protections and higher education is no way to get jobs to come here...

Either Walker didn't notice what was going on right under his nose, or, he is lying. Either way this isn't good for john doe...
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuzTEV0El...

If you want to believe that several of Walker's top ranking associates sent thousands of emails and phone calls to one another and Walker had no clue what was going on be my guest. Personally I have a very hard time believing it to be true. And if it is true it raises serious questions about his ability as a manager and/or those individuals that he choses to associate himself with. That being said I have no doubt that he will skate through this thing unscathed.

Don't look behind ya, Lil' Scotty - the future ain't what it used to be!

Hope you've enjoyed the ride..."foul deed will rise"!

"what I'd like to know is where the money for this fund is coming from?"

The money for the LEGAL "defense fund" came from campaign contributions (with the approval of the people who donated the money).

Thatwaseasy........$4 million in taxpayer dollars?!? That's chump change!
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/26/taxpay...

partarican1......Clearly the state was divided pre Walker. That division resulted in both of Walker's elections. His victories were a result of the division, not the cause of it. To suggest otherwise is just naive.........

Report: Obama in Hawaii as Nation Goes Over the Cliff
The Hawaii Reporter estimates that the total cost of the vacation to Hawaii and federal taxpayers, including funding for travel, staff and protection, is at least $4 million.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/11...

Tax the rich! Obama needs to go to his vacation home.
You all keep fretting about Walker. Obama is doing just fine playing king with our money.

Oh yes, anyone who has a different opinion must not be real. Is it really that hard to believe that a newspaper based out of Rock Co has a large democrat demographic? The same Co that Paul Ryan couldn't carry as the home town boy?

if Walker has nothing to fear he should get rid of that legal defense fund he created...what I'd like to know is where the money for this fund is coming from?

and bowlgal...please stop with the labeling crap and misplaced anger...some of us do have jobs and lives and we can post here as often as we wish and you post as frequently as us 'liberals'...not everyone likes Walker and the way he is dividing our state...

Again hard to take any liberal's fake outrage seriously with so much in question/cover-up mode in the White House.

Nixon was elected to a second term too overwhelming. Look how that second term ended for much less.

I see the "adults" from the left have been unleashed again. Don't you have a job or a life? Mouse/mooshoo/wiggle/broskoch/yada.

Must be exhausting with so many people to post as. How many liberals do you really think are on this site?? 4 maybe, tops?

The Gazette really needs to start charging a fee for access.

lindaf....With the chief investigator in this case having a "recall walker" sign in his front yard and a "union solidarity" sign on his front door, I have no doubt that everything and anything was done to link Walker to any criminal activity that they could during this 3 year investigation........

916WI Nov 29, 2012 at 9:08 a.m.
Any fact that disagrees with Gandalf is hate speech. /s

Gandalf....please read the quote I posted. Thanks.

So it was rhetorical speculation and not at all factual, well that sounds like everything else stated by the left.

Republican SNAKE-just like the 2 that just lost handily. Someday the truth will come out and he will have to answer, wont't he??!!!

RAF, Walker, nor anyone else in the John Doe probe have testified at a Grand Jury. John Doe Investigations are very similar to a grand jury, a judge is put in charge and has the ability to compel witnesses to testify. The use of grand juries in Wisconsin is very rare. Most charges are brought by a criminal complaint.

You people need to find a higher calling in life than this website and arguing with people who you will never convert.

Volunteer, grow a garden, call someone you haven't talked to in years, clean your house, bake cookies, take up a hobby.

Shoeboy......With regard to the legality of setting up a defense fund, allow me to quote myself and an article from an earlier post in this thread.....
----------------
"Sure he can--from an article on the defense fund--
"The Government Accountability Board wouldn't comment but referred us to its summary of the law on legal defense funds for elected officials. That summary seemed to say the only way the governor could set up a defense fund was if he was the target of an investigation.
George Dunst, who worked as legal counsel for the Wisconsin Elections Board and the GAB for about 20 years, said otherwise.
"It is possible that it's an agent of his campaign being investigated, at least that's what the statute lays out," Dunst said.
He points out the law also allows for a fund if a dependent or a staff worker's dependent is being investigated."

Moo anyone be questioned in a grand jury is entitled to have an attorney, not a sign of guilt or innocence. Being questioned and being the "target" are two very different things. Not to break bad on your proclivities but any idea of spanking would require using facts, not rhetoric...tool.

"Thank you for a memorable afternoon, usually one must go to a bowling alley to meet a woman of your stature." This quote from the movie "Arthur" is intended for you.."bowlgal"

"active criminal investigation of our great state's governor"
-
Please provide a statement from any DA declaring this is true....

Walker's former bodyguard, now Chief of Capitol Police, is going after chalk writers: http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/cr...
It might have cost thousands to remove the chalk, before it rained.

Memo to reporters...

"JOHN DOE CORRUPTION PROBE: SCOTT WALKER ROLE ESTABLISHED,BUT NEW QUESTIONS RAISED"

http://d21971ua898zk6.cloudfront.net/39/...

14 QUESTIONS FOR SCOTT WALKER

http://www.democraticunderground.com/108...

Bowgal: glad to see you commenting on a story, same as myself. Oh yeah, Romney lost! neener neener ;)

Why are left on here questioning anything a politican does with the #1 offender sitting in the White House?
Do you care about the criminals or just the Republicans. Is it okay to be a criminal if you have a D in front of your name?

It's so hard to take you people seriously. The fake umbrage goes on and on.

Mouse
Nov 28, 2012 at 3:06 p.m.
thatwaseasy....... laxative should only be consumed in moderation.

More adult conversation provided by mouse.
Is a person suppose to react to this immature behavior? Don't sink to her level. She's only here to annoy and not contribute.

Embezzlement by his close aide is being polite. It was stealing from military widows and orphans, for vacations in the tropics. And the aide's gay partner is charged with hitting on teen boys.
I don't like Walker, but so far he hasn't been charged with anything, and he won the recall election. Let's all just wait and see at this point. It's futile to debate, unless people just want to make talking points.

Tell us about the secret computer system and all the other stuff Scotty - it will be brought out!

"MEMO TO REPORTERS - JOHN DOE CORRUPTION PROBE: SCOTT WALKER ROLE ESTABLISHED, NEW QUESTIONS RAISED"

http://d21971ua898zk6.cloudfront.net/39/...

DON'T be so confident Scott Walker because it's NOT over yet. All information points your way.

"JUDGE: INVESTIGATION INVOLVING WALKER REMAINS OPEN"

http://www.channel3000.com/news/politics...

DON'T be so confident Scott Walker because it's NOT over yet. All information points your way.

"JUDGE: INVESTIGATION INVOLVING WALKER REMAINS OPEN"

http://www.channel3000.com/news/politics...

still don't like his tactics...and I don't believe he's innocent...

concernedwi Nov 28, 2012 at 11:50 a.m.
A half truth is a whole lie.

Regarding thatwaseasy: If it looks like feduptaxpayer and smells like feduptaxpayer, then it probably is feduptaxpayer or his alter ego Chief_Ten_Beers. Both have conveniently left the Janesville Gazette site. That'd be my educated guess.

Scotty is innocent until proven guilty -however there are the reputations of a lot of fake internet pseudonyms at stake here.

So, consider that Walker email told Russell to reign in the county executive office with its illegal campaigning on the taxpayer dime. Only thing was, Russell was not in charge of county executive office at the time.

Why would Scotty tell Russell to reign in illegal activity in an office which he doesn't control - unless Scotty knew about the entirety of an illegal operation under Russell.

I realize this question requires more thought than Patriot's oversized amygdalas are accustomed. ...

2 days 132 posts. probably ya'll just poking each other in the ribs.

anywhooo.. As in most of these cases, He probably is innocent. As long as he doesn't lie about it. That's where they catch em..

Sorry to break it to you maam. Your boy Scotty is a tea party version of Blagojevich.
Realize this before you make a fool of yourself.... it's too late.

thatwaseasy -you were the one going on and on trying to prove some sort of point about the dems and GOP/tea party being the same, politically corrupt. Political corruption does not mean balanced budgets. It only means using the guise of balanced budgets to mask political corruption....

Oh yes, that radical TEA Party. How dare they expect Government to balance a budget and be fiscally responsible with our money.

The nerve!!

You are a good little soldier keeping in perfect step to the blind leading the blind.

Mouse:
Walker? ohhhh I'm outraged by his associates.
Obama? ohhhh I'm love him and his associates.

monkey see monkey do

Mouse is in the house!!!!!!! Still posting as brotherkoch? hahahahaha

Rep. Issa threatens to subpoena HHS over Medicare bonuses

Issa has suggested that HHS is using the added payments under the demonstration program to ensure that seniors won't see fewer Medicare Advantage options before the election.

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/med...

So Many things hiden from the public with the help of statis media BEFORE the election.
Then they lower the bomb.

Hard to tell, but I think thatwaseasy is saying that the dems and the Tea Party/GOP are the same when it comes to political corruption. And that she likes to read rightwing blogs.

I can't disagree with those points, however, this article is about the Wisconsin John Doe investigation and the implications of so many criminals appointed by your Patriot deity, Scott Walker.

Where there's smoke there's fire....hence all the water on Scotty's desk?

Hard to tell, but I think thatwaseasy is saying that the dems and the Tea Party/GOP are the same when it comes to political corruption. And that she likes to read rightwing blogs.

I can't disagree with those points, however, this article is about the Wisconsin John Doe investigation and the implications of so many criminals appointed by your Patriot deity, Scott Walker.

Where there's smoke there's fire....hence all the water on Scotty's desk?

@thatwaseasy- You keep citing articles and statistics like you did before the presidential election. ie. " Romney is ahead by 19%", " Independents win elections",etc. The articles that you're citing now may have about as much credability as the pre-election posts.

http://obamaczars.com/

FEATURING: Obama Czars, Tax Cheats, Socialists, Marxists, Communists, Radicals and more!

Oh my!

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/federa...

Interfered with the law? Say it ain't so Joe.
Obama walks on water don't you know.

Obama Appoints Another Criminal To His Cabinet! What's Up With This Guy?
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/welch-wv...

Oh come on!! This can't be true. Only Republicans can be blamed for.....everything.

http://beforeitsnews.com/obama/2010/10/o...

Obama Administration Full of Tax Cheats, Socialists, and Radicals

But look the other way folks, He's an historic Democrat. Who cares if we're swimming in debt and 1/2 the country is on welfare. Have to protect the man.

http://paloaltofreepress.com/judge-appoi...

Oh no, more cheats appointed by Obama?
Are you outraged yet concerned?

Something tells me no, not yet. Still only one sided.

http://gawker.com/5139875/our-tax+cheat-...

Geithner cheated?!!? We don't care, he's a liberal.

916, it still doesn't explain how his 4 employees were convicted of crimes, 3 with felonies,1 with a misdemeanor.

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/09/12/inve...

Investigators: Sebelius Illegally Campaigned on Taxpayer’s Dime

No outrage from media. I doubt most liberals here even aware of this cover-up swept under the rug either.

Oops: Sebelius broke the law campaigning for Obama at an official event

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/13/oo...

But where's the left's outrage?
Oops: we are talking about the liberals and their lack of standard.

So there was no felony conviction as you clearly alluded to in your statement--just another one of those "mistakes" huh??:)

Misdemeanor. So she's still able to come on these comment pages and do Scott's work. Only instead of doing it for a govt paycheck, now she has to do it for free (like you Patriot Scotty-worshippers).

Wink plead guilty to misdemeanor, she was charged with a felony. She was his employee.

Concernedwi....Sure.....based on your statement, "He's a republican that hired and over saw 6 people that have now felony convictions."

You and I have removed 2 from that list, let's work on another one. So your saying that Wink has or will have a felony conviction? Please support this statement with a link.....Thanks!

916, yes it was a mistake, I remembered it being 6 people indicted I thought they all had worked for him. So you have answers for 2, what about the other 4?

No comment!

Don't forget the dozen of his people that were granted immunity. :~)

concerned......really? I'm so sure it was just a simple mistake:)

Of those 6 you listed, you have one of probably a hundred a campaign aides, Brian Pierick. A guy who obviously has serious issues in his personal life. You're using him to condemn Walker?
The we also have a donor, William Gardner, who violated campaign contribution laws for BOTH political parties. You seem to think that this should all fall completely on Walker as well. How extremely fair of you!!!:)

godishere - I didn't read your diversionary cut and paste as it didn't seem relevant to the John Doe investigation article.

It's not like we are commenting on Walker appointee Dennis G Smith deal with Mary Spear...these other Walker confidants are now convicted felons.

...If you Patriots are fine with Walker associates and their child enticement, theft, embezzlement, misuse of taxpayer-funded resources, then just say so.

brotherkoch

Only you know what is in your actions or words. I answer to someone you have no idea of. If I,m wrong I have the guts to back the facts up with Gov. Doyles numbers. You just continue to blow soap bubbles. I set in 2 other JAN. 2010 transcripts from your leader. He agreed with Congressman Ryan. It would have done no good for me to have set it in before the election. It still does me no good to introduce to you hard facts. You are a web troller. Don,t be shocked one day if we have no money. You will blame anyone but the man in the mirror.
Good day.

My mistake, 6 people indicted, only 4 were empoloyees that Walker hired.

Timothy Russell
Brian Pierick
Kevin Kavanaugh
Kelly Rindfleisch
Darlene Wink
William Gardner

thatwaseasy - I think you meant that posting for theblaze.com This is one is about catching crooks in WI that happen to hang around Scott Walker's office.

concernedwi, are you talking about "guilty" by association? Where do I start with Obama??

Rezko
Ayers
Wright
Dorn
Jones
Khalidi

Here, this would be faster
http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/100...

Obama has a dead Ambassador, 7-1/2 hours he can't account for and 14 days of lies to the American people. He has 2 tax cheats in his cabinet and has only proposed 2 trillion new revenue in taxing the richer income of Americans when we have a 16 trillion problem.

There is no evidence right now that he has any interest in the real fiscal issue because he would have to talk about spending and entitlements and he isn’t.

He isn't even talking about taxing the wealth of the wealthy. Only the income of people making $250,000.00. Tax the wealthy of those like Buffet. He won't. He uses Nazi style propaganda to push a false narrative.

concernedwi.......Regarding your statement, "He's a republican that hired and over saw 6 people that have now felony convictions."
Can you please clarify? I realize that two convictions came out of the veterans fund embezzlement fund and now this conviction of Rindfleisch.....what are the others?

It's more than being just a republican. He's a republican that hired and over saw 6 people that have now felony convictions. He either knew it was going on, or he is incompetent to oversee people working 25 feet from his desk. Which one is it? Either way he isn't fit to be governor of over 5 million.

It's more than being just a republican. He's a republican that hired and over saw 6 people that have now felony convictions. He either knew it was going on, or he is incompetent to oversee people working 25 feet from his desk. Which one is it? Either way he isn't fit to be governor of over 5 million.

For Godishere: Pointing out the paradox of Patriot whining or blowing off this investigation which has found real criminals in Scotty's government.

... I don't care about Scotty with his personal matters. But you Patriots might.

Some examples.

http://voices.yahoo.com/top-10-christian...

What is wrong with a Governor that has not been proven guilty of anything?

He is a Republican. Plain and simple. The money that Gov. Doyle walked away with means nothing to any of you. The jobs lost, empty homes mean nothing to you progressives. As long as you have someone to hate, anyone. You are happy.

"I'm not a crook", anyone remember that one? Pretty sure the guy who said it was confident he'd be "cleared" too. Overconfidence and arrogance is what puts folks like Scooter in situations like these.

One can only conclude that Patriots are fine with the crimes. The investigation would be worthwhile only if a personal indiscretion of Walker were exposed..... hmmmm son of a preacher, Eagle Scout, brandishing a whips-and-chains brand of conservatism .... we've seen this show before.

Where have you seen this before? One of those mean, nasty Republicans that want all Americans to keep what they have earned? hmmmmmmmmm?

Red....I love it! A Republican governor, pushes conservative ideals though legislation that the liberals did anything and everything to prevent from passing, and the best you can come up with is that those that support him for actually finding a way to do what he said he was going to do, is call them "bootlickers"?!? You are such a tool!
I would hate to hear you name for the Obama supporters who support him even after he has completely failed concerning the economy/unemployment rates, immigration reform, transparency within the government, entitlement reform, etc........How do you label those people?

Even with the budget cuts we knew would happen, all the numbers I left. If you read the budget we were left with and can still blame Governor Walker you don,t care. You just don,t mind the blame game when the numbers are clear.

The state of Michigan had more tax revenue than Wisconsin did. They got the GM plant. Tax revenue has power. Look in the mirror if you need to blame any one. You can leave in all the videos you want, the numbers are all the truth you need.

Funny that people are comparing this to the Clinton/Whitewater investigation. The main thing that turned up on Clinto was a personal affair. This John Doe investigation is convicting criminals -embezzlers, thiefs, child enticers, misuse of taxpayer funds for personal purposes.

Yet, Patriots see it as a mere annoyance, because...because -people are commenting on webpages. Oh poor Scottty.


One can only conclude that Patriots are fine with the crimes. The investigation would be worthwhile only if a personal indiscretion of Walker were exposed..... hmmmm son of a preacher, Eagle Scout, brandishing a whips-and-chains brand of conservatism .... we've seen this show before.

"In the end, Walker will still be the Governor, he and the Republican legislature will continue to set this state on a prosperous path, and he will still be supported by a fiercely loyal base."
-
Opinions aren't worth much 916, but if Walker is ever looking for a bootlicker, he's certainly found his person! Based on his performance as either County Executive or Governor, "prosperous" is NOT a word I would use to describe the outcome of his guidance, however "incompetent" comes to mind. As Ben Franklin said, "To follow by faith alone is to follow blindly."

After Governor Doyle announced his budget.
THIS is why Gov. Walker got elected.
Unions would have stormed Madison?
REMEMBER this is 2009.
********************************************
report on state finances next week.

Employee reaction

Union members realize they're not immune from bigger economic forces but would like to see private contractors who do business with the state to make similar concessions, said Bryan Kennedy, president of the American Federation of Teachers-Wisconsin.

"The state should assure that no contracting of work performed by state employees can take place while there is a hiring freeze or layoffs of state employees," Kennedy said.

Pocan, who leads the Joint Finance Committee with Sen. Mark Miller (D-Monona), called the crisis "the economic version of a natural disaster."

Pocan said lawmakers will look at other ways to fill the deeper budget hole.

"We'll figure out the best way we can protect working families as we move forward," Pocan said.

New tax and fee increases must be considered because leaving them out of the discussion would be "intellectually dishonest," Pocan added.

Pocan said the budget committee will keep its goal of sending a budget to the full Legislature by the end of May.

Senate Majority Leader Russ Decker (D-Weston) said in a statement that although deep cuts will be required going forward, job creation programs and programs that help low-income residents must be maintained.

Doyle and Decker both said they would give up pay equivalent to the 16 days of unpaid leave required of state workers, which comes to about $4,200 a year for Doyle and $1,500 a year for Decker.

State employees in Milwaukee had different reactions to the plan to cut their pay.

Erna Willis, a 65-year-old Department of Corrections worker, said she was somewhat shocked by the news because of cuts the agency absorbed several years ago.

She said it would be easier for some state workers to absorb the hit and a hardship for others. But union members have it better than non-workers for private businesses, she added.

"My heart breaks for those people losing their jobs," Willis said.

Wiley Vivians, 56, an employee for the Department of Revenue, wondered whether the union has any choice but to accept the concessions.

"A job is better than no job," Vivians said. "There's a lot of other workers out there with no recourse. I feel for them."

Jesse Garza of the Journal Sentinel staff contributed to this report from Milwaukee.

If Governor Scott Walker broke the law, I will stand with the truth. No one investigated Gov. Doyle. He just refused to run again. You all think you can do a better job? Then run. Most of you don,t live on a budget anyways=or you would have seen the debt Gov. Doyle left us in?

More?
Do you need more?
The empty houses. The ones that sell and stay empty? Tax payers for property so others have health care=we have none.
We lose police to gain a librarian.
Families need food, energy.

Republicans believe in a budget.
Progressives believe in Government
paying their way. Property tax payers pay for the Government. WE are the Government or have you all lost sight of the truth by blaming others for your own selfish hatred?

REMEMBER::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

akers what amounts to a new 2009-'11 budget, rewriting his February proposal.

Under Doyle's plan:

• Non-emergency state employees will be required to take 16 days of unpaid leave in the next two years, saving up to $120 million a year. Those furloughs equal a 3% pay cut, the governor said. Prison guards and those who care for the disabled would not be furloughed.

• As many as 10,000 nonunion state workers, including University of Wisconsin faculty and academic staff, will not receive the 2% pay raise they had been scheduled to get in June, saving about $30 million a year. Legislative leaders must approve this change.

• The state will ask union members to reopen contract negotiations to achieve a similar 2% in payroll savings, or about $36 million a year. If the unions don't negotiate the pay cut, about 400 workers would be laid off over the next two years.

• A new cut of up to 5% will be made in state spending, which Doyle said will force the layoff of about 700 other workers.

• Deeper cuts from what Doyle proposed in February will be made in aid to public schools and local governments and on health care spending. The size of these new cuts won't be known until the Legislative Fiscal Bureau issues a report on state finances next week.

Crap or get off the pot, this is becoming more of a non story every time it is reported. Wis Dems are starting to look like the national GOP of the mid 90's trying 'get' Clinton for illegal activities. I love how Walker haters are so confident that he will be defeated in 2014, apparently the recall of 6 months ago left their memory. He very well may lose but to say that at this point in time is foolish at best.

WISCONSIN...Don,t you remember how we got into this mess? 6.5 BILLION in debt when Walker took office.
All you can do is blame one side or the other?

Doyle calls for layoffs, furloughs, cuts to fill $6.5 billion hole
By Steven Walters and Stacy Forster of the Journal Sentinel May 7, 2009

Proposed Cuts
How Gov. Jim Doyle would fix a budget deficit that now stands at up to $6.5 billion through June 30, 2011:

Furloughs

8 unpaid days a year for non-emergency workers - equal to 3% pay cut.
Pay raises

Rescind 2% raises that nonunion workers were to get in June; also ask union members to give up that raise. If they don't, 400 workers would lose their jobs.
Layoffs

Up to 700 more layoffs, depending on how agencies implement new spending cuts.
Spending cuts

4% more in across-the-board spending cuts, on top of 1% cut ordered in February.
Aid to schools

Reduction in aid to public schools recommended in February.
Aid to municipalities

Deeper cut in shared revenue than the 1% proposed earlier.

Related Coverage
Doyle calls for layoffs, furloughs, cuts to fill $6.5 billion hole
Editorial: And it just gets worse
Madison - Gov. Jim Doyle said Thursday that the budget deficit has exploded to up to $6.5 billion - a historic gap he wants fixed by laying off up to 1,100 employees, furloughing non-emergency workers eight days a year, rescinding 2% pay raises and making new cuts in aid to schools and local governments.

Doyle said the $5 billion deficit he and lawmakers faced in March has soared because tax collections are running far below estimates. The potential $6.5 billion gap will occur over a three-year period ending June 30, 2011.

"We are facing tougher choices than ever about what level of state services we can sustain at a time when people need them most," Doyle said. "I am fighting to protect the middle class, education, public safety and health care."

Doyle said he would not propose any additional tax increases to rebalance the 2009-'11 budget and said he hopes Democratic legislators go along with the cuts he proposed Thursday. The budget the governor gave to the Legislature in February included $1.7 billion in tax and fee increases.

Democrats, who control the Legislature, promised an independent look at Doyle's cuts.

"We're a co-equal branch of government," said Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Madison), co-chairman of the Legislature's Joint Finance Committee.

Assembly Republican Leader Jeff Fitzgerald of Horicon said state government must become smaller, but Doyle's new cuts don't cancel tax and spending increases that he signed into law or has proposed.

Dear Republicans,

Please, please, please run Walker as your presidential candidate in 2016.

Signed,
The Left

Can the Patriots agree that it is a good thing, bringing these criminals to justice?

Even Scotty should agree that this investigation has been successful and useful -They have caught - Embezzlers, thiefs, child enticers, misappropriators of taxpayer funds. Lots of rats.

Where can I find a story of the lies and cover-up going on in the White House right now?

What's scares the left most is Walker's re-election and on the White House in 2016.

Wisconsin operates on a biennium, covering two fiscal years at a time. A fiscal year begins on July 1 and ends on June 30 of the following year with the biennium starting July 1 of odd-numbered years. Agency budget requests are submitted in September of even-numbered years. During the following months, the Governor meets with the departments and agencies to hear their budget proposals for the following fiscal year. Following the hearings the Governor issues a budget recommendation for the upcoming fiscal year to the Legislature. Both the State Assembly and the Senate are required to make any necessary changes or adjustments to the budget until the bill is passed in both houses. [81] When the Lesgislature passes the bill the Governor approve of the bill as a whole, veto the entire bill or execute line-item vetoes. [82] Gov. Doyle signed the FY 2010-2011 biennial budget (covering July 1, 2009 to June 30, 2011) with 81 vetoes.[83]

Do any of you know the debt Gov. Doyle left us in?
PLEASE, answer. How much debt did he leave? You all must know, all you can talk about is guilt, right? How much? Do you know how many state workers he was going to lay off?

Typical poo, same behavior as the mouse.

http://www.channel3000.com/news/politics...

What would you expect him to say?

RetiredAirForce said, "Rector received his undergraduate degree from The College of William & Mary and his masters in political science from Johns Hopkins University." [ http://gazettextra.com/news/2012/nov/16/... ]

I guess not everyone agrees with the Chief.

Shoeboy......to be fair, the "illegal activities" that you are speaking of seem to involve discussing campaign strategies with his staff.....no? I can't speak for the majority, but I honestly could care less about a charge such as this. I actually think it's kind of comical in a way considering the fact that taxpayers are forced to cover the tens of millions of dollars spent while the president campaigns around the country. What it amounts to is that both sides are guilty of doing this and will continue to be guilty of doing this. The democrats and the anti-Walker contingent have been unable to push their agenda though the popular vote in this state, so they have to resort to measures such as this. In the end, Walker will still be the Governor, he and the Republican legislature will continue to set this state on a prosperous path, and he will still be supported by a fiercely loyal base. Have a great day!

Chief,
You may be partially right but what does it say about Walker that he spent a couple years in college getting drunk and whoring around and left with NOTHING! He couldn't finish the degree he started.
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So I may have been a drunken whore in college but I was still smart enough to finish my degree. Walker, WAS NOT!
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The man did not choose work or military instead of college. He chose college but FAILED! There is a difference.

Yada....I think it's important to highlight the article you went out of your way to acquire.......allow me to repost my comment to you involving that article....
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Yada....Too funny! You must have been seriously disappointed when reading the bolded headline of an opinion piece which was clearly slanted against Walker......
"There may be nothing illegal about what the Milwaukee County district attorney has laid out. That doesn't make those activities right."
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That's right--"nothing illegal":) I'm surprised that you didn't try returning the paper after reading the headline. Probably had a combo of your tears and drool all over it though....right??

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepoliti...

http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-...

Walker-->"He was part of an ongoing scheme to use county employees and resources to aid his campaign" - and - "Campaign county work intertwined under Walker"
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/...

http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/w...

"Walker For President, Can He Beat JOHN DOE"

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/...

Buzzzzzzzz buzzzzzzz buzzzzzzzzz

How little this probe looks in the line of Benghazi Barry's offenses.
Can you say impeachment?

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More rhetoric from fear, imagine that, somethings never change. Still waiting for just ONE single conviction of voter suppression because of voter ID...crickets crickets crickets.

This story is old to me. If he is guilty or enough evidence is brought forth, he will be charged. If not then he will have to run on a record of failure in 2014, if the Dems can turn out a candidate with a heartbeat, he is gone. As is evidenced by the presidential election. You can gerrymander districts all day long , you cannot gerrymander the state borders, although I am sure they will try. With all of the totally necessary spending on new election laws I am sure they will do all they can to DECREASEV voter turnout, because all rhetoric aside thats what people like RAF really want is less people voting. Then the candidates they do the zombie walk behind will "win", because to people like RAF and other far right wing and far left wing folks, its more about Bears vs Packers(our team vs their team) than whats actually good for society.
Gett out your pom poms RAF, u RAH RAH Scott Walker, HEY!! Gimmie an S , gimmie a C........

Best part is all the speculation about running for president. I havent laughed that hard in ages. Has there ever been a president without a higher education? Would LOVE to see Walker vetted by the national media, would be AWESOME!! If you believe that he has been "vetted more than Obama" , you are living in a fantasy land. If he were to be vetted, it would be very bad. He wouldn't even make it to Iowa, ask Tommy T.

RAF just can't get over it when he is wrong on an issue, just carrys it on and on. Its okay RAF for the multitude of times you are made to look silly for your repetetive mind numbing garble, you are forgiven. Same old song and dance for the man in a vinyl bobmber jacket.

Gets funnier everyday. As of yet not one of the claims by the left fringe over charges on the sitting gov have come true. Just like their claims of voter suppression because of an ID card.

Chief_ten-Beers is feduptaxpayer who left the site election night and re-registered as chief-ten. I guess he knew that he helped the Right Wing lose. Keep it up ten, it's working for the democrats.

To: Chief Ten Beers..The term "Tea Party morons" is redundant..

"I've talked to him about going to Mass", Really? Just had to slip that in there during an interview w/ AP about my innocence.Who does that? I put a buck in a red kettle yesterday. I'm a good person. Right?

chief-ten- To answer your question, yes, it is a sentence. So sorry to blind your eyes when I forgot to use a comma. Over the top a little?

Boy how the Left likes to comment even if they don't have a clue.

So chief-ten-beers, what you're saying is that anyone who doesn't support Walker is a communist? Truth be told, I am actually a capitalist but not the selfish variety that the far right wing communist theorists love. I can't stand the man and I do think if he isn't a criminal, he has very poor judgement in those he surrounds himself with. WHO has at leaast 6 felons as trusted aides?

Let's face it folks, back in the day Scotty had to do some unethical things (at taxpayer expense) to get elected.

Rest assured, since he went big time courting billionaires from outstate, he doesn't need the network of small time crooks. Enjoy it while it lasts Scotty. The billionaires can be a fickle bunch. God Bless America.

He'll look good in orange.

Governor Scott Pinocchio: "A lie well stuck to is as good as the truth". Ex-Illinois Governor Blagojevich still professes his innocence as well.

OK Walker haters your starting to sound like “birthers” (people who think Obama wasn’t born in America) There's nothing there but dragging it out... Do you really think Obama didn’t talk to campaign people on Air Force One at all? Both sides do this it's NOT illegal.

Romney and Ryan were confident
that they were going to win
in a landslide.

Let's hope he didn't accidentally take a "state issued" pencil home.

I think it's naive to say that Walker in some way is not being investigated for anything and everything they can get him on. When the chief investigator of the probe has a "Recall Walker" sign in his front yard and a "union solidarity" sign on his front door, to say that there is going to be no bias is absolutely laughable. Walker did the right thing by hiring these attorneys to protect himself with what is turning into a 3 year long witch hunt.........

Sure he can--from an article on the defense fund--

"The Government Accountability Board wouldn't comment but referred us to its summary of the law on legal defense funds for elected officials. That summary seemed to say the only way the governor could set up a defense fund was if he was the target of an investigation.

George Dunst, who worked as legal counsel for the Wisconsin Elections Board and the GAB for about 20 years, said otherwise.

"It is possible that it's an agent of his campaign being investigated, at least that's what the statute lays out," Dunst said.

He points out the law also allows for a fund if a dependent or a staff worker's dependent is being investigated."

Never mind--walker and legal--how silly of me.

But....He cannot legally set up the fund just to be proactive as you claim....sooooooooo?

Agree, he would be stupid not to be prepared, since this witch hunt has gone on for more than 30 months. The Milwaukee County DA's have much more pressing issues in Milwaukee that they should be dealing with, than continuing their vendetta against Walker.

It's a smart thing to do from his perspective Marge. Obviously there have been people in influential positions that have shown that they will do anything and everything to remove Walker from office.......

Why would walker set up a legal defense fund when he is "absolutely" confident that he is not a subject of a criminal investigation involving former aides in his Milwaukee County office.

Yada....Too funny! You must have been seriously disappointed when reading the bolded headline of an opinion piece which was clearly slanted against Walker......
"There may be nothing illegal about what the Milwaukee County district attorney has laid out. That doesn't make those activities right."
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That's right--"nothing illegal":) I'm surprised that you didn't try returning the paper after reading the headline. Probably had a combo of your tears and drool all over it though....right??

Walker has had more vetting than the president.

I bought the GAZETTE today - - just so I could once again read the EDITORIAL reprinted from Milwaukee. Journal Sentinel --> "EMAILS REVEAL SEAMY SIDE OF CAMPAIGN" on page 4A of the Gazette today. The truth on Walker has come out and more will follow as the investigation continues. Way to go Scotty have your campaign people "helping to manage county government for the benefit of only one citizen - SCOTT WALKER"
http://www.walkerinvestigation.com/

http://www.walkergatefiles.com/

http://cognidissidence.blogspot.com/2012...

Why would he have a pitcher of water and four bottles of water on his desk?
I wonder if Gov. Walker pours those bottles of water into that pitcher. I don't think a governor should have bottled water on his desk. It makes it look like he doesn't trust the water supply in his state. Did you know railroads would use white pepper so passengers wouldn't think there was soot in their food?
I'm just ramblin'...

If he's innocent then the man apparently didn't know how to open all those illegal/criminal cc emails he got?

Why is it that before the other shoe drops you hear phrases like "absolutely confident" and "110% confident?" Then the phrases change to something like "looking forward to telling my side of the story in a court of law." (Although they seldom actually testify.) Then after a year or so in prison, their appeal provides them with a chance to "correct the miscarriage of justice." They then lose their appeal and ride off into the sunset of the political scrapyard.

And I'm confident that my bald head will start to grow hair again one day.

Enough money can clear any one

ha ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Thank You Governor Scott Walker. We believe you are honest - that's why we elected (and re-elected) you.

...starting to worry he's hoarding water...