"repeating things are the tactics of Fox, Rush"
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Ummm how many times have you repeated fox and rush in your posts? As I said, just another member of the do as I say not as I do clan of the left fringe.

"Voter ID IS an attempt at suppression."
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If that was the case the federal govt would bring all the states up on charges of suppression that have Voter ID laws in place; hasn't happened. Just because you toss the rhetoric out doesn't make it true.

Voter ID IS an attempt at suppression. Why attempt to solve a problem that doesn't exist? The fact remains the game you are playing is spinning out of control, and its sad reall. This has nothing to do with the "fringe left" as you constantly state, OVER and OVER. Its a matter of making it EASIER to vote not harder. You seem to be the one on the "fringe" and look crazier and crazier with each post.

I don't have a problem with showing my DL at the polls, I carry it every where I go. Unlike you I realize that everyone that lives n thi country doesnt have a DL or real access to get one. Trying ta argue common sense with a partisan hack is a waste of time. There is proof of voter suppression all over this nation and any attempt to enact a law like voter ID suppresses the vote further. Another attempt by crazy old right wing blog poster to say everyone is just like me, and if they ar not, thats THEIR problem, they are just lazy excuse making liberals, or the left fringe as you keep repeating, so eloquently.

What are you talking about do as I say not as I do? You really are flying of the cliff. Almost 11,000 crazy posts and counting. How many more times can you say "left fringe"? My God repeating things are the tactics of Fox, Rush and the rest of your idols, good to see you following marching orders. Nice to know how few on the right think for themselves. Just change your handle to Tea Party RAF, fits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Inte...)

RetiredAirForce said, "GA if your going to attempt to play a game of "I'm smarter than you", you need to have intelligence and facts to back your wild remarks."

Not if he's playing the game with you.

GA if your going to attempt to play a game of "I'm smarter than you", you need to have intelligence and facts to back your wild remarks. The late Andrew is neither my hero nor did he create the video's. I suggest you either ask questions to gain information needed or research information from accurate sources of information before echoing leftist fringe false talking points.

fear again, if voter ID is "suppression" there should be some one that was a victim. This victim is protected by federal law and could seek justice for this action...so where is the case showing the conviction for suppression because of voter ID?

The claim by you, and the left fringe, is voter ID is suppression...but suppression is illegal according to federal law. Several states have voter ID laws yet from all the people in those states there has not been one person/city/county/govt body convicted of suppression due to voter ID, yet there have been convictions for voter and registration fraud, the very thing you and the fringe claim is to small too worry about.

The fact remains what you claim there is no track record of while you try to argue away worrying over other fraud by playing statistic numbers. Pretending you have no issue over showing an ID while tossing rhetoric in the other direction is just another example (of many from you) in the game of do as I say not as I do mentality from most of the left.

RAF what on Earth are you talking about? Voter suppression exits, not because of voter ID or a lack of it. The vote is suppressed in this country mainly by republicans because they fear greater numbers. Voter ID is just a tool. I dont really care if I have to show an ID at the polls, as I have said its just a solution for a problem that is essentially non-existant. .00004% of the vote is NOT an issue that calls for a multi million dollar solution. when you have over 120 million people vote in an election and essentially no voter fraud to speak of, I would say there is no problem. All three cases that you can site naton wide aren't nearly as big a problem as Black people in Florida and Ohio waiting 3-4 hours to vote. I wonder how many wealthy white people would wait 4 hours to vote. Maybe we should concentrate on REAL problems with voting. Making it EASIER for everyone to excersise their rights. I think a database where everyone gets a number when they turn eighteen. Easy to do with a database. ID is ineffecient and clunky. There are easier ways to do it than an ID card.

This misconception of widespread voter fraud is simply cooked up by people like RAF that want less people to vote. Far right wing white people that want large portions of the population not voting because their own political interests are at risk.

Godishere excellent point, my wife tried same day registration during the recall last summer, first time she had voted since 1992, she sat at a table with 8-10 others and took more than 30 minutes, she never did register she got up and left... I guess she was disenfranchised.

How many of you have worked the polls?
How many of you wise guys know how long it takes to register anyone?
If you have NEVER done it=what makes you appear to know the best way it should be done?

GoodAmerican, I agree with you on your last post, however you could very easily swap out ACORN for Tea Party and Breitbart for any number of Liberal activists, and be correct as well. The nuts are on both sides as is the lies and unethical behavior.

Republicans only want their lemmings to vote.

More rhetoric, still waiting red...

RAF, you have a hard enough time reading whats in front of you much less trying to read between the lines.

PanamaRed, you make a great point the billionaires would be better off paying the voters directly to get them to vote their way, it seems to work better.

Left winger fraud is at it again. Hey, same day registration along with Voter ID or you go register early with a utility bill.
Take your pick.

Red as usual you skip passed the points, utter false claims, and then post rhetorical flurishes. You claim of billionares picking candidates ignores the ones that picked Obama. Pretending any of the campaign money falls on one side of the broken system is ignorant.

I'm still waiting for you to provide a single conviction of voter suppression because of voter ID. There are many convictions for voter and registration fraud...

fear still waiting for you to provide a single conviction of suppression because of voter ID.

"Claims" of suppression through partisan games, with convictions of fraud and vandalism are hardly the same thing as suppression because of an ID.

Keep pretending your points have merit...

Conservatives have a difficult time dealing with reality. Their billionaire donors have spent millions of dollars and still can't get a majority of Americans to vote for their candidate. They even got their special hand-picked Supreme Court appointees to declare Corporations as individuals - able to spend unlimited amounts of money and STILL they lose. Democrats have won the popular vote in 5 out of the past 6 elections. So how do Republicans explain this phenomenon? Could it be voters reject their hackneyed ideas and failed policies? Of course not, it MUST be the result of voter fraud and the liberal media working against them. Republicans sure have a great imagination when it comes to creating conspiracy theories. All their wasted energy could have been put to better use like creating legislation that benefits constituents.

Clearly RAF is wrong and continues to spin like a human top. When presented with evidence of FRAUD and attempts at voter suppression , he does what every person who is wrong does, DENY, DENY,DENY.
Voter Suppression attempted in Dane county this last election, and peeople on BOTH sides of the aisle have been CONVICTED of fraud in attempting to deliberately mislead voters to skew the vote in their favor.
See when the facts get in the way of your narrative you claim the facts are on your side, when they just aren't. This is about denying people the right to vote by placing as many hurdles in the way as possible.
Raf and the rest of his far right wing tea partiers don't care about the real facts. He will continue to guzzle the Kool Aid and knowingly LIE on this blog over and over to help himself believe what is just a bold face LIE. Voter suppression is occuring, people have been caught attempting to mislead voters and HAVE been convicted of fraud(felonies).
So keep on spinning RAF, it is quite humorous to watch. What is it like to live in grumpy old man's world? Repeatedly lying and ignoring the facts? Fringe right wing lunatics.

Id be fine with showing my ID to vote, unfortunately no one can show me any evidsence of the need for a law, none. In recent elections that have beenclkosely observed, there have been instances of voter fraud less than .0001% of the time!! Is that worth a law that costs millions to enforce? I thought you people were against Big Government and unecessary spending? I guess that is only the case when it helps your cause. You can be sure that if their vote would be affected by such a law, it would be quite communistic.

Red are you really that dense; yes a retorical statement. Your claims fly in the face of real data. There have been CONVICTIONS for voter and registration fraud in this country and state so we know that it has happened. There has not been one conviction in any state requiring voter ID for suppression caused by voter ID.

Clearly the facts show what is occurring and what is not. You can try to be blind to reality, but don't expect clear thinking people to follow your pied piper act off the cliff with you.

GA, boy you excite easily. Of course PEOPLE are the ones that commit these actions. My response/post was a direct reaction to the stupid one before it claiming another stupid action. The functions behind the origins of ACORN had good intentions. As with most out of control groups people in them decide they can do extra credit work because they think their mission is above the ramifications.

Raswens: a note of irony here for you: Romney's share of the popular vote total ended up at, you guessed it, 47%.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-...

The Democratic Party knows how to stretch that 47% to a majority come Election Day and they do this by organizing and by sheer fraud. This is why Democrats promote liberal voting protocols like early voting and same day registration while objecting to voter ID laws and updating registration lists. As long as these voting accommodations remain in place, Republicans will lose in tight races.

If the ACORN allegations of fraud were a lie, then why have so many ACORN folks been convicted of fraud or resigned in ignomy?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/...

http://www.wnd.com/2011/09/344577/

http://dailycaller.com/2011/01/12/acorn-...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12418275...

http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/23/the-vo...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/22/v...

There are many more links to ACORN convictions, but 6 seems to be enough to prove the point.

I agree, dtb, with your comment. Same day registration has been a good thing for all the reasons stated in this article. It has worked well in this state for four decades, why does Walker wish to end it?

On the issue of voter ID--I do not have a problem with voter ID provided that the state ensures that obtaining proper voter ID is easy for all citizens.

I just read that more Wisconsinites voted on Nov. 6 than ever before and percentage wise, the 4th highest percentage ever - over 70%. It seems our system works. Why mess with that unless you want fewer people to vote (as conservatives have maintained)?

I also never heard anyone have a problem with this system until Walker brought it up recently, not even through all the recalls, so it seems this is just another republican tactic to suppress the vote.

Walker insulted every poll worker in Wisconsin when he insisted he wanted to end same day registration because poll workers were overwhelmed on election day by the task. Quite the contrary. Registering a new voter is hardly any type of "burden"! Poll workers and clerks alike celebrate each and every person who takes the time and care to register to vote no matter when they choose to do so. Shame on YOU, Gov. Walker!

thirdeye,
The reason that is relevant to same day registration is that you must be allowed to vote when voting takes place. You should not be turned away from voting on the day of the election simply because you have not registered. You have a right to vote on election day, so you must be allowed to register on election day.

Here we go with more of "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" from conservatives. The voter ID is a waste of time AND taxpayer money. Creating an efficient voter database would track voters who move, commit felonies or pass away, preserve the integrity of the voting process and cost far less taxpayer money to create and maintain. This past Presidential election offers proof that spending millions of taxpayer dollars is not necessary to ensure a fair election process. Conservatives will insist a voter ID is required to combat widespread fraud yet have NEVER come up with ANY statistics or evidence that widespread voter fraud exists. Conservatives are unable to prove fraud exists but then claim that doesn't mean fraud isn't occurring. With logic like that they can also claim the sky is falling or that Iraq is stockpiling weapons of mass destruction without offering any proof. Mmmm...fear mongering to achieve a goal - where have we seen that before!

JJBrown: "It is wrong—deadly wrong—to deny any of your fellow Americans the right to vote in this country..."
What role does same day registration play in denying the right to vote?
The Voting Rights Act of 1965 did not include same day registration.
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Please list the ways that Governor Walker is participating in voter suppression activity.
BTW, why all the CAPS LIES and bashing of Governor Walker in an article on same day registration?

Yes JJBrown.....Every American citizen will have an equal right to vote. Just make sure that you bring your free ID to prove who you are and where you live and exercise that right!

Every American citizen must have an equal right to vote. There is no reason which can excuse the denial of that right. There is no duty which weighs more heavily on us than the duty we have to ensure that right... The command of the Constitution is plain. There is no moral issue. It is wrong—deadly wrong—to deny any of your fellow Americans the right to vote in this country. There is no issue of States rights or National rights. There is only the struggle for human rights. —President Lyndon Johnson, “The American Promise,” March 15, 1965...These words are from the well-known televised address President Johnson gave before a joint session of Congress urging members to move forward without delay on what would become the Voting Rights Act of 1965........ SCOTT WALKER NEEDS TO REALIZE THAT WE THE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING HIS VOTER SUPPRESSION ACTIVITY...REMEMBER HE IS BEING BANKROLLED BY THE KOCH BROTHERS, OIL BARONS...IS HIS INTENTIONS TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS ? OR RATHER THE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS THAT GIVE HIM MILLIONS FOR MISLEADING ADS TO PAINT ANOTHER PICTURE OF HIS RECORD THEN IS ACCURATE?

We have proof by the left wing groups like ACORN why the dems want no ID to vote.

Well, we now have admissions from top Florida Republicans that limiting access to the ballot box is an explicit strategy to shut out demographics that don't vote Republican. So we know where your sentiment is coming from.

I would have no problem with same day registration, IF Voter ID was in place.