'As Goes Janesville' debuts locally
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Four of the five main subjects of the film 'As Goes Janesville' answered questions about their participation in the film after the Janesville premiere of the documentary Sunday night at Parker High School. From left are Cindy Deegan, Gayle Listenbee, Tim Cullen, filmmaker Brad Lichtenstein and Angie Hodges.
JANESVILLE — When the going got tough, people did what they believed they had to do.
That might be one message from "As Goes Janesville," the documentary film that made its Janesville premiere Sunday night at Parker High School.
"I didn't think I could do it, but with friends and family, you'd be amazed at what you can do to adapt," said Angie Hodges, a General Motors worker who had to choose whether to transfer to the GM plant in Fort Wayne, Ind., or lose her retirement.
It's not Rosie the Riveter with her "We can do it!" motto, but the characters showed that they could, indeed, do the hard work and survive the heartache.
"We do what we have to do to survive and take care of our families. That's what I've done," said Cindy Deegan, who was laid off from Alcoa, went back to school at Blackhawk Technical College and now works as a medical lab technician.
"Sometimes you just have to do things you're not comfortable doing. That's the bottom line," said Gayle Listenbee, who like Hodges, had to leave family for Fort Wayne.
After the showing, the displaced workers from the film indicated their lives have improved, although Hodges and Listenbee still spend most of their time in Fort Wayne.
They are like hundreds of other GM workers who still leave their families behind to keep their jobs and pensions, Listenbee noted.
An audience of several hundred watched and sometimes applauded or laughed during the film.
The film didn't start out to tell the story of Gov. Scott Walker, the public employee unions and the hard feelings that resulted. Those things hadn't yet happened when filming began in 2009.
It started out telling the stories of people caught up economic chaos.
"It's about what happens to a community when a giant manufacturer walks out on short notice and leaves everybody high and dry," Cullen said.
The families of Deegan, Hodges and Listenbee were dislodged from their relatively comfortable lives. They were three of the film's five main focuses. The others were Cullen, who was involved in trying to save the plant, and Mary Willmer, the local bank president who helped lead Rock County 5.0, the business development group that continues to try to reinvent Rock County's employment base.
Willmer did not show up for the showing.
Willmer in the film calls the economic disaster "gut wrenching" and is shown as someone determined to improve matters through business development.
"It's affecting our entire community … we don't want to paint a picture of doom and gloom in this community," Willmer says in the film.
But politics get in the way, which director Brad Lichtenstein said is one of the film's lessons.
Cullen, a Democrat who opposed Republican moves in the Legislature, is said to be mostly shut out of Rock County 5.0 discussions.
Cullen on Sunday called the group self-appointed business leaders who decided to lead the community back to prosperity.
The entire community—people from all walks of life—have not been part of that conversation about their future, Cullen said, although that conversation could still happen.
"It's never too late, because we've got a long way to go. It's going to take a long time" to return to prosperous times, Cullen said.
The film is not shy about pointing out the political divisions that arose out of the economic disruptions, and the crowd at Parker—at least the ones who laughed and applauded—seemed to favor the workers, the unions and the Democrats.
At the question-and-answer session, Lichtenstein asked speakers to hold the political comments.
"We need to try to get past the deep political ideologies we hold and see what we hold in common in order to be able to solve our problems," Lichtenstein said. "I hope that's a message the film can convey."
Lichtenstein proudly told the crowd the film recently won awards at the Milwaukee Film Festival and Columbia Gorge International Film Festival. A review in the New York Times calls it "a political thriller."
Politics aside, it's an intimate look at a few of the thousands of local lives that were thrown into disarray.
Listenbee said the '86ers, those Janesville GM workers who had to move to Fort Wayne in 1986, welcomed the new Janesville workers, which helped a lot.
"They told us, 'hang in there; it gets easier,' and it does," she said.
Nov 16, 2012 at 4:54 p.m.
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Finally just watched the trailer.... Wow.. these people make me sick. "oh my health care is going to end (while puffing a cigarette)"....."I got terminated because I wasnt at work".........Really people? The video trailer makes it look like a ghetto... Not the Janesville I live in.
Oct 15, 2012 at 2:29 p.m.
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Have to agree with everything Oxa said. The Rock County 5.0 initiative seems narrowly focused, naive, and unrepresentative. The community needs a breath of fresh air, not the same old same old. The group doesn't seem to understand that manufacturing is not the wave of the future. This is a service economy. Providing professional and technical services requires an educated work force. Unfortunately, Janesville does not attract college grads. Janesville students who go on to college settle elsewhere. Why? There are no jobs for the educated here. Janesville's economy needs to diversify, not just expand to more of the same. As to the functioning of the Rock County 5.0 group, being transparent in their actions, being inclusive of participants, and getting resident input should be top priorities. A community that takes the high road will be more attractive to investors. Petty squabbles and personal ideology should be left at the door. What company would be attracted to a community whose business leaders do not play well in the sandbox with others and pride themselves on the fact that they do NOT have the ear of their legislators?
Oct 15, 2012 at 12:34 a.m.
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As someone who doesn't live in Janesville, or even in Wisconsin, I found "As Goes Janesville" bizarre. What was bizarre was not the film, but the organization calling itself Rock County 5.0. First, because it lacks competent leadership. Are Willmer and Hendricks self-appointed leaders? Were they appointed or elected? Or did they become the leaders of the group simply because no one else wanted the job? In any case, I think their vacuous, cheerleading demeanor reflects poorly on the community. Businesses interested in moving to Janesville need to see someone with some hard-nosed business sense, not someone who inherited a billion dollars and operates on gut instinct, nor someone with a narrow breadth of business experience who fails to understand her own beliefs and how they affect her work with the group. The group needs to be led by someone with wide-ranging business and community development experience who is open to *all* possibilities for development. The second thing that was bizarre was the fact that the community was not involved in the planning being done by Rock County 5.0. Why is some select group foisting their vision of the future on Janesville without the community's input? Go look up the word "oligarchy" in the dictionary. Now try to defend it. Why should a few current business leaders have more say in what Janesville becomes than the thousands of people who have chosen to make the city their home? Last, I found it really sad, really unfortunate that the Rock County 5.0 leaders don't understand that theirs is not a political position. No one elected them for their political beliefs, nor does leadership of the organization provide them with a mandate to effect political change. After the political maneuvering shown by Diane Hendricks, there is no doubt in my mind that she should step down as co-chair of the group. This would function as a good-faith demonstration that the group's efforts are aimed at benefiting the community, not just a few businesses in the community.
Oct 11, 2012 at 1:50 p.m.
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@poobah- You are right. Wouldn't it be nice if Wisconsin,Rock County in particular, could put up signs like, " Welcome to Wisconsin - where the standard of living is higher than anywhere else in the US" instead of
" Wisconsin- Open For Business". Without people working at decent paying jobs, the economy becomes stagnant. Small businesses close when people can't support them.
Oct 11, 2012 at 11:44 a.m.
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analertcitizen, you'll confuse our conservative friends with talk of having been successful in business and comfortably retired. They think only their fellow conservatives do that and that we liberals and progressives are the takers and the conservatives are the givers.
Funny thing is, when you actually take a closer look, it doesn't work that way! It's those same conservative corporate raiders that are doing the taking and the employees and shareholders (both conservative and liberal) being robbed, quite often out of a lifetime career or savings. Romney doesn't care whose money he takes - liberal or conservative. It's all money to Mitt. Here's an interesting article about how Romney's Bain Capital "harvested" Sealy Mattress: [ http://www.salon.com/2012/10/02/how_mitt... ] Now that's the real conservative way!
Oct 11, 2012 at 10:54 a.m.
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@916- I don't quite understand your comment about my " sensitivity". If you mean I am "sensitive" to people who are struggling- yes I am and you should be too. If you mean I am "sensitive" because the struggle applies directly to me- I am not. I am fortunate enough to be retired after selling a business, own my home and car ( although it is an older model), and I am not dependent on a job or health insurance. I do have the good sense to understand that the community is not about only the business owners but the people they employ. The employees ARE the backbone of the community and when they can't spend, the community folds up. Being gleeful about lower wages isn't my idea of pulling the community out of the hole.
Oct 11, 2012 at 7:47 a.m.
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916WI, well put, very well put.
Oct 11, 2012 at 6:48 a.m.
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analcitizen......So now stating simple facts of how wages will be directly affected when manufacturer whose finances are built on a house of cards leaves is "making a mockery of those without" and "showing extreme antipathy"?? A little sensitive there huh??
Oct 11, 2012 at 6:36 a.m.
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shopiereduh........more ignorance coming directly from you---not a surprise at all. Ken and Diane Hendricks were married in the 70's. They leveraged everything they had to begin ABC Supply in the early 80's. Anything but billionaires at that point, there was an interesting read about how the Janesville banks completely blew them off when they went to them for help, while the Beloit banks/business community were receptive to their ideas and took a chance on them. She has been heavily involved with the direction of the company since it's inception, despite your pathetic attempt to re-write it's history. As far as your other comment regarding a "heavy union presence".....That one was laughable! ABC is and always has been a national company which owes NONE of it's success to unionized labor. The employees(who, by the way, have assisted in the company in winning several great workplace awards) are non-union and the customer base of the company is also predominantly non-union.
The comments dealing with "destroying a middle class working persons life to make his money" and "hatred and animosity towards working people" make little sense. So your perception of "middle class" and "working people" only exist when they are tied to unionized labor? How clueless are you? There are plenty of us middle class working people who want absolutely nothing to do with unionized labor! We enjoy being rewarded on our own merits and accomplishments, rather that being rewarded as part of one of your collectives. So, please save your little speech dealing with hatred and animosity to recite at one of your next pro-union meetings. The 3 or 4 people that attend love basking in and preaching about those feelings........
Oct 10, 2012 at 10:07 p.m.
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@wislady- no one is jealous of Diane Handricks or the others on the film. People are simply put off by the condescending attitude shown by them toward the workers of Rock County. When people have a lot, good taste indicates that they don't make a mockery of those without or those struggling. The comment about the GM shut down actually "helping" other businesses because wages would be much less and therefore attactive to companies shows extreme antipathy for their own neighbors. It certainly shows a lack of good taste.
Oct 10, 2012 at 8:34 p.m.
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Wislady, I was asking my self the same question, Just why are ULTRA RICH people, jealous of hard working Successful union people that pay taxes?
Oct 10, 2012 at 6:37 p.m.
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Some of you act like Diane Hendricks married her husband the day before he died. Diane also had a hand in building the business. Why are people so jealous of successful people?
Oct 10, 2012 at 5:42 p.m.
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Jerry Sandusky did good for his community. That doesn't give you a pass for everything you do.
Oct 10, 2012 at 5:31 p.m.
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Absolutely right anniemae231, Mrs. Hendricks got her billions the old fashioned way, she inherited it. Funny thing, her husband made all those billions with a strong union presence in the State, both private and public. He did not need to destroy a middle class working persons life to make his money. I don't know what her problem is, just hatred and animosity towards working people, I guess. Well, she shows what she is made of, that's for sure.
Oct 10, 2012 at 4:48 p.m.
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The opening statement of WISLADY has no merit.
Oct 10, 2012 at 3:30 p.m.
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Ken hendricks did much good for this community. Diane was just along for the ride.
Oct 10, 2012 at 3:24 p.m.
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The opening statement of the previous commenter has no merit. Diane Hendricks does much good for this community.
Oct 10, 2012 at 3:19 p.m.
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people like Diane Hendricks and Mary Willmer seemed quite pleased to be rid of gm and good paying union jobs. they want all these 9.00 an hr jobs with no benefits. this way, the corporations make all the money. they should be ashamed of themselves. I dont believe Ken Hendricks was anything like Diane at all. He seemed to have much more of a heart!!
Oct 10, 2012 at 11:15 a.m.
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I guess I don't need to watch the movie I got the cliffs notes of all the propaganda contained in the 'documentary'
Oct 10, 2012 at 10:08 a.m.
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After the way Lichtenstein threw his film subjects under the bus during this filming, it's unlikely he'll be getting any big deals in the future.
Oct 9, 2012 at 7:19 p.m.
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Paul Ryan can quote Obama's promise to help. He didn't save Janesville, but GM survived. How did Paul Ryan do saving the plant? I guess it is easy to point the blame then to look in the mirror.
Oct 9, 2012 at 5:48 p.m.
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That's right westorbust, Barack Obama just implied that he would do something to keep the Janesville GM plant in operation. His words:
"And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition,that this plant will be here for another hundred years."
The plant closed before President Obama took office. But between the Stimulus Package and Auto Bailout, our government was there. Now the plant will likely sit empty and rot away for the next hundred years.
This viewpoint was not a part of the documentary and now we should not be political (or critical) when discussing the film.
As for Rock County 5.0, where is the UAW version of Rock County 6.0? Oh that's right, they blew their wad on the recall election.
Oct 9, 2012 at 3:46 p.m.
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What a disappointment "As Goes Janesville." They should have included people who left the community all together for a job. Having to sell a home, moving, putting kids in new schools. Trying to adapt in a new community. Poor showing of the city Janesville.
Oct 9, 2012 at 2:33 p.m.
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It reminded me how perfect this was played. Workers--who had little to do with any of the major business decisions that took this country to the brink--are now perfectly content to vote against their own interests, eat their own, and willingly participate in the race to the bottom in terms of wages, benefits and conditions of employment. The 'job creators' have to be laughing themselves silly over this. And, I would beg to differ, west, that "all facts prove" that 'right to work' states have better state economies. I won't bother with a tit-for-tat study comparison; all I'm saying is that, at best, that issue is unsettled.
Oct 9, 2012 at 1:21 p.m.
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kcole, the President never once promised he would specifically keep the Janesville plant open. That was up to GM. Many autoworkers DID go back to work, and so did many of the Janesville workers, just in other plants.
Furthermore totellthetruth: " All facts prove that "Right to Work" states have better small and medium sized business atmospheres and overall better state economies" Wow, talk about misinformation. Yikes.
Rock County 5.0? Well, it certainly looked like they have no idea what they are doing, not surprisingly.
Oct 9, 2012 at 12:28 p.m.
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I watched 'As Goes Janesville" last night and thought the film did a good job of showing what the people went thru. The article states the following:
At the question-and-answer session, Lichtenstein asked speakers to hold the political comments.
"We need to try to get past the deep political ideologies we hold and see what we hold in common in order to be able to solve our problems," Lichtenstein said. "I hope that's a message the film can convey."
To me, the film only conveyed the viewpoint from the union supporters and not the overall budget deficit Wisconsin was in at that time. There was no follow up from then candidate Obama's claim to keep the plant open another 100 years. The director was able to add subtitles of the recent action by a Dane Co. Judge last month but not include why the president did not include getting laid off citizens back to work after GM was bailed out with taxpayer money?
The replay of the childish behavior at the State Capital by the protestors was the best reminder of what was at stake in the recall, this election and those to come.
Oct 9, 2012 at 11:57 a.m.
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I thought the movie caught a very difficult time in Janesville's history. I also felt the issue of politics getting in the way of improvement needed to be pointed out. I'm not going to slam 5.0. I don't necessarily agree with how they are going about trying to better the economy, I do not question their intentions. People have different views, different priorities. I find it hard to beleive that this group is intending to alienate and cause further havoc on the community. What needs to be done is for all sides and all groups work together instead of the business versus labor, democrat vs republican, wealthy vs poor. I think our state and country has lost alot of sense as a community. It is about what each person can get individually and not what is the best for the majority of people.
To see campaign (democrats and republicans) contributions and elections spend millions and millions of dollars is just sickening - How about putting that money toward our deficits or services? paying off our debt will benefit all these campaign donors far more than puttng it in some sleaze, untruthful, negative commercial and politicians spouting a bunuch of lies about what they beleive, although their beleifs tend to go through some evolution from when the election process starts and ends. I never thought I would see the day when the unemployment rate drops and a whole segment of the population is disappointed and feels some conspiracy voodoo is taking place. Lets look at ourselves, we are hurting each other waiting for those in one political party or another to fail. We should be celebrating any achievements we reach. At some point we need to learn how to get a long and work together. We are supposed to be the most civilized people in the world but we still engage (yes I let my emotions get the best of me too) in such negativity and we seek and act toward failure based on our biased and unproductive self benefit. We have to realize we do this and make an effort to get along. I know sappy and wordy comments. Just so very tired of the lack of attention toward people in general.
Oct 9, 2012 at 11:35 a.m.
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@sarahmarden, I noticed that in June 2011 you posted a comment on the Gazette article "I wish Janesville had..." saying "I wish it had jobs." Well Mary Willmer, Diane Hendricks, and the entire Rock 5.0 team are bringing jobs back to Janesville. You may not agree with them politically, but they are dedicating countless hours to do something positive for this community. We need more people like them!
Oct 9, 2012 at 11:23 a.m.
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responsibledem- do you think the lady with the breast cancer scare STOPPED smoking after it was just a lump? Did she stop smoking when the UC stopped 6 weeks prior?
I do agree with the one lady moving to IN to finish up her last three years. Must make decent money to have 2 homes and travel home every weekend. I would have moved the whole family but there is the issue of selling that house in this market. I don't know if they were renting here or owned the home though. BIg Caddy in the garage as well.
I know the lady didn't want a $11 hours job but WHY not take that job when your UC ended 6 weeks ago. Get that job and you have an "in" for when something else became available.
I did see FINALLY a good use for "the union" the one lady was fired for leaving to go home when the son was hurt badly. The union saved her job. That is quite insane that it even came to that though.
Oct 9, 2012 at 11:13 a.m.
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Wouldn't it be interesting if the BMO Harris buyout of M&I caused Mary Wilmer to be cut out of a job due to consolidation of resources? Although, I'm sure her buddy Diane H would hire her in a heartbeat.
The thing that really bothered me is Eric Levitt kept saying that SHINE didn't have a proven product to market. Is this true?
Oct 9, 2012 at 10:59 a.m.
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Mary Willmer Sheedy: interesting choice of words used when driving through the protestors: "This is HORRIBLE. I really enjoyed getting yelled at today." No, Mary the definition of HORRIBLE is getting that phone call that your child has been in a traumatic car accident with head injuries or finding out that you have breast cancer and your health insurance is about to run out due to job loss, as Angie & Cindy experienced. Like you said "When the day is done I like coming back here to my community." Yes, we all did at one time. But you keep on smiling as you attend your kid's activities and look those teachers in the eye, knowing that your people are working hard to bust unions and make WI a right to work state.
Oct 9, 2012 at 10:53 a.m.
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LaborParty...I agree with you!
I was sooooo SADDENED by this picture of Janesville. If business owners have no care for employees, we are going back to the early 1900's when workers were treated like nothing.
If this is the real Janesville, Wisconsin,then I am sad to call it my Home. I loved Janesville I really thought people and businesses took pride in their workers and employers. Now I see the real picture...
Rock Co 5.0 meetings clearly stated these things, in one the members commented on the number of workers that left Janesville and basically stated that was good, because companies could offer lower pay (with a smile and laugh, must be fun to talk about ways to screw people).
It was also stated at another meeting, if Wisconsin didn't have such a high minimum wage and strong Family Medical Leave, they could attrack more business.
And finally and must disappointing was Diane Hendicks and Mary Willmer statements to Walker about Right to Work.
THe Rock 5.0 didn't want to work with Cullen until they needed him to help pass a Tax bill...
20% of Janesville city budget is going to a company that probably won't hire anyone from Janesville...
Why wasn' Mary Willmer at the showing, she was obviously very proud of her ROCK 5.0...
Oct 9, 2012 at 9:59 a.m.
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I will always show both sides.
Both transcripts from Ryan and Obama. I was there.
● On February 13, 2008, Obama promised to keep open the GM plant in Janesville, Wisconsin:
And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years. The question is not whether a clean energy economy is in our future, it’s where it will thrive. I want it to thrive right here in the United States of America; right here in Wisconsin; and that’s the future I’ll fight for as your President.
Oct 9, 2012 at 9:56 a.m.
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Sorry-video goes in::
EXACT WORDS: RYAN VS. OBAMA
● On Aug. 29, 2012, Paul Ryan quoted Obama’s 2008 promise to keep the GM plant open:
President Barack Obama, came to office during an economic crisis, as he has reminded us a time or two. Those are very tough days. And any fair measure of his record has to take that into account. My own state voted for President Obama. When he talked about change, many people liked the sound of it, especially in Janesville, where we were about to lose a major factory. A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant. Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said, “I believe that if our government is there to support you, this plant will be here for another 100 years.” That’s what he said in 2008. Well, as it turned out, that plant didn’t last another year. It is locked up and empty to this day. And that’s how it is in so many towns where the recovery that was promised is nowhere in sight.
Oct 9, 2012 at 9:44 a.m.
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I was there. Does that matter? I heard, felt and saw Michigan in the plant. Their tax money bought our plant. The UAW shrugged with "I don,t know"-we knew. When Michigan timed our work speed. When Michigan stood next to our jobs, we tryed not to notice. I repeat we knew. WHO was the sitting Governor? Not Walker. Remind yourselves if I want the truth, why blame the wrong ones? Why do you want to not know the truth? The workers knew. This man knew,http://youtu.be/4TsV_Z0NPCA did you?
Oct 9, 2012 at 9:04 a.m.
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The documentary was not representative of Janesville's recent woes - rather, it was a distortion of facts intended to slant in favor of the producers predetermined beliefs.
Oct 9, 2012 at 9:02 a.m.
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RE: analertcitizen - Not only do those on Janesville's 5.0 NOT "relate to the real world" but they also think they are the "chosen" for "leadership" to alter the lives of other citizens without consulting the 99%, listening to them or those of other political-persuasions, or involving any of them in decision making. Just like Walker, they feel free to use financial clout over common sense to influence local government decisions in their own profitable favor. Isn't that exactly how most dictatorships operate? CLEARLY those of 5.0 who are bankers and business owners themselves, have more than simple compassion for their fellow human beings in mind when they try to direct the Janesville's business climate.
Oct 9, 2012 at 8:07 a.m.
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totellthetruth: Those red states might be good for small business owners, but their workers "rely" on more government support, (47%) more than states with union rights and collective bargaining. How do owners understand the perspective of their workers?
@LaborParty: I'm with you. I live in Janesville and work to be informed. I didn't hear of Rock County/Janesville 5.0 until the movie came out. How does a business plan for future success if a person who reads the paper doesn't even feel a part of it or know of it? It may run well in Forward Janesville meetings, but that doesn't make it part of the community.
Oct 9, 2012 at 7:22 a.m.
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Watched As Goes Janesville last night. Great work! It so well conveyed the raw emotions Wisconsinites have felt in the last 4-5 years. However, I was disappointed, almost angered, by the GM family examples Lichtenstein chose. Yes, they worked hard and moved on to do whatever was necessary. But both women's husbands were on disability. Both were living lifestyles not conducive to good health - smoking, overweight, stress. These are the very things that fuel the Republicans disdain for Democrats, and why they label us as entitlists.
It's important to note that we have to make decisions all across the board for our lives. Live healthy so we are able to continue working. Instead of wishing for an early retirement, why doesn't the Fort Wayne commuter move her whole family to IN and eliminate stress (not to mention the expense of a second household)?
I don't think Lichtenstein's sample of GM worker is representative of all Janesville workers. I think he chose extremes to make his point, but in doing so labeled all Dems.
Oct 9, 2012 at 7:16 a.m.
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RE: I would not trust any of the info that yada uses to prove a point here.
Oct 9, 2012 at 5:59 a.m.
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ALERT CITIZEN - Your commnents on the 5.0 leadership are true and accurate. I am not surprised by what I sae and heard - especially the "Divide & Conquer" comments from a man who wants WI to be a RED state.
"Divide and Conquer" video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7v8f8jBr...
"Billionaire Scott Walker donor's Business Paid NO Stae INCOME Taxesx"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/17...
and...Walkergate continues....
"Walker Subpoenaed To Testify In Trial Of Former Aide"
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/w...
Many are wondering if Walker will take his 5th amendment rights while under oath...
http://myplayfulself.com/wordpress/archi...
http://bloggingblue.com/2012/10/08/scott...
Oct 9, 2012 at 2:20 a.m.
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Wow- I watched the film tonight. It didn't make Janesville's 5.0 leardership look exactly brilliant. I believe that the city Fathers/Mothers are sad for the " poor" people but do they even relate to the real world and the people who live among them?
Not a good omen for the community. Business leaders- start appreciating your workers, don't look down on them- they are all you have.
Oct 8, 2012 at 7:28 p.m.
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On WPS tonight at 9pm
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