Local debate viewers cheer, jeer, drink beer

By ANN MARIE AMES , NEIL JOHNSON ( Contact )   Friday, Oct. 12, 2012
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Democratic supporters from Rock County gathered at the United Auto Workers Hall in Janesville for a Vice Presidential Debate watching party that featured special celebrity guests and local democrats running for office.

Democratic supporters from Rock County gathered at the United Auto Workers Hall in Janesville for a Vice Presidential Debate watching party that featured special celebrity guests and local democrats running for office.

— Before the vice-presidential debate even started Thursday night, there was standing room only at a viewing party at the Holiday Inn Conference Center in Janesville.

As people found seats or places along the wall of the crowded banquet hall, a jumbo screen tuned to Fox News flickered with images of U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan and Vice President Joe Biden.

A gaggle of UW–Madison students carried in stacks of extra chairs and jostled past an older man who sipped a New Glarus beer from the cash bar.

"No way there's room for everybody who came," he said.

Indeed.

All told, more than 400 supporters of Janesville's Paul Ryan packed into the conference center for a viewing of the debate organized by local GOP groups.

Dozens watched the big screen from out in the foyer as the two veteran politicians squared off over questions on foreign policy, the U.S. economy and health care.

For 90 minutes, every time Biden stumbled on a word, tossed out an epithet such as "this is a bunch of stuff" or flashed his trademark Cheshire cat grin, the crowd hurled a chorus of jeering laughter.

Each time Ryan shot back an eye-twinkling retort or uttered a reference to Janesville, the room exploded in cheers.

That's the way it went on the east side of town.

Meanwhile, you could have heard a pin drop on the UAW Local 95 Hall floor every time Ryan said "Janesville."

The crowd of about 140 made it clear, however, that Biden would be welcome any time for a beer or munchies from the snack table.

When Biden grinned, the crowd cheered. They cracked up at his "bunch of malarkey" comment.

Ryan got his share of laughs, too. When he said Obama's foreign policy was "unraveling," you would have thought you'd walked into comedy night at the UAW Hall.

More often than not, Ryan got jeers from the room full of Rock County Democrats and a handful of Dems from state and national organizations. He touched a nerve when he called presidential candidate Mitt Romney "a car guy."

"A car guy, huh?" one man shouted from the back of the room.

At the Holiday Inn Conference Center, Ryan's supporters seemed to rise up in protection of the Janesville native. Viewers peppered the air with sour comments when Biden interrupted Ryan mid-comment.

Rep Joe Knilans, R–Janesville, who was watching the debate from the foyer, said Ryan's performance was deft, but he thought Biden was doing the debate a disservice with his interruptions.

"It seems a little unfair," Knilans said "But Paul's doing well … He's doing well."

At the midpoint of the debate, Greg Roy of Janesville leaned up against a wall at the Holiday Inn Conference Center and shook his head, but not because he thought the debate was going poorly for Paul Ryan.

Roy said he thought Ryan was proving himself to be a nimble arguer. On the other hand, he thought Biden was glib and dismissive.

"Biden's really deflating the office of vice president tonight," Roy said. "He's pandering. He's not taking this seriously. It's clear Ryan's the technocrat here, and Biden's just not giving him the time of day. It's really sad."

Putting away chairs and brochures at the UAW Hall, Obama campaign volunteer Allycia Spenske of Janesville said the hometown crowd wasn't cheering for Ryan because he is not representative of the community.

"Paul Ryan sees this is a joke," she said. "It kind of bothers me."

She brought along a friend, Mandy Kalson of Beloit. Before Thursday's debate, Kalson said she was on the fence about the election.

She left convinced to vote for Obama and Biden, she said.

The scale-tipper was Biden's statement that the United States would withdraw from Afghanistan in 2014. With a little brother about to leave for boot camp with the Marines, she didn't like Ryan's conditions on the end of the war, she said.

"I don't like that there's a 'but' in there," Kalson said.

When the debate ended, the crowd squeezed together for one last photo.

The photographer climbed on a chair and got everyone's attention.

"All right everybody," he said. "'Malarkey' on three!"

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carlitosway
Jan 20, 2013 at 2:32 a.m.
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wavjmper what has Ryan ever helped with or donated to?He is good for LIES. Even Martha the moderator couldn't stand the BS that lyan ryan was spewing. Martha knows more about foreign affairs in her pinky than ryan will ever know. Such a shame the standing room only crowd were not enough to help him win. Of course the ones that did not waste their time knew the truth to his LIES!!! and the polls proved it

illdrinktothat
Oct 12, 2012 at 11:22 p.m.
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Too bad we couldn't turn the old GM plant into a giant playground...that would be the perfect venue for all the acting ten year olds on both sides. Did to...did not.....yada, yada, yada....

Bowlgal
Oct 12, 2012 at 7:10 p.m.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnX7TNFIE...

Thomas Peterffy knows about socialism as we have seen under Obama. Class warfare and the poor getting poorer. The middle class getting poorer.

Shopierehuh
Oct 12, 2012 at 6:40 p.m.
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These people think that the electoral process is some type of sporting event. Pitiful.

dtb
Oct 12, 2012 at 6:08 p.m.
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Beer. I can't imagine watching those two on the screen together without it.

badger2
Oct 12, 2012 at 5:17 p.m.
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Protect the rich and take from the workers/middle class. Paul Ryan made that pretty clear last night

TryingToMakeItInTheWorld
Oct 12, 2012 at 1:49 p.m.
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Why cant people use common sense when it comes to determining who won or lost the debates. In all honesty neither debate was won by a large margin. Between Obama and Romney one would have to give to Romney 55-60% to Obama's 40-45%. Between Biden and Ryan one could say the same giving the win to Biden.

wavjmper
Oct 12, 2012 at 1:05 p.m.
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should have had the union viewing party at the GM plant would have been a great venue to hold all the uaw folks still living in the past. the former gm worker on my team when asked who he would vote for said, "Gee, i never had to worry about that cause the union always told me who to vote for." Joe Biden and his PHD wife donated a unbelievably small amount of their income to charity. Joe, put your money where your mouth is....he cares about himself people wake up and use your heads!!!!!!!

Bigmike
Oct 12, 2012 at 12:38 p.m.
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With a city of 50,000 plus and Paul being from Janesville, I'm surprised there wasn't more. The Ryan family certainly could have afforded to rent a bigger venue. Perhaps had they offered open bar and served a dinner (maybe even charged a few grand a plate) it could have brought a few more of their supporters out.

MBHammer
Oct 12, 2012 at 12:33 p.m.
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I predict the big applause for Obum & Biden will diminish when people are forced to pay their monthly Healthcare taxes, some will pay later because their company will jump on the bandwagon and drop the side paying plan people now enjoy separate from their paychecks. The company's response will be "hey your president says it's affordable now so you can pay yourself", I see it coming. People get what they vote for.

joebernallio777
Oct 12, 2012 at 12:12 p.m.
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The entire UAW crowd supporting Biden fits within the lense of a persons camera standing on a chair, while the Holiday Inn Conference Center is 400 + standing room only... and the UAW thinks Ryan doesn't represent the community?

johndenver
Oct 12, 2012 at 10:17 a.m.
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Patch Products out of Beloit makes a game called Malarky.

woody
Oct 12, 2012 at 9:49 a.m.
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"Gee...I hope Biden didn't hurt the feelings of the Paulie fans"
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Even Martha the moderator couldn't stand the BS that lyan ryan was spewing. Martha knows more about foreign affairs in her pinky than ryan will ever know.

whz_bng
Oct 12, 2012 at 8:34 a.m.
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Now we know why Obama picked Biden as his running mate in 2008. He appeals to the dumb voter. Hey, Biden apparently was not told to leave that nip of scotch alone until AFTER the debate. Biden was totally snide. Where in the world does an adult act like that and think it is acceptable.

NVgrf
Oct 12, 2012 at 8:16 a.m.
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Gee...I hope Biden didn't hurt the feelings of the Paulie fans. It certainly is a different ballgame when someone does not allow the other to get away with spewing lies. The President was far to polite. The VP didn't take that "stuff." Well done, Joe Biden! Paulie should have worn his big boy pants.

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