I am voting for Zerban because Paul Ryan's politics are questiontionable, at best. Plus, he doesn't have the skills to be a congressman for the people much less a VP for the country. Conservatives' minds cannot be changed nor reasoned with. They are brainwashed by Fox News.

Thanks for the link. I am sure, much like the story on Sen Kedzie son, this too will be washed under the carpet by most of the media...since it dosen't support their agenda.

@ RetiredAirForce

And the same thing has happened again.

Wisconsin GOP campaign worker hospitalized after apparent gay-bashing assault

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/25/wiscon...

Pretty fair example of pathetic anyways

Trickle-down does NOT work.

Trickle down Government doesn't work, that's why Romney leads all trustworthy polls.

dkush21-Trickle down government works?

Between these two guys, my vote's for Keith Deschler.

I certainly don,t want any progressive union bobble-head to make decisions for me anymore. I
was a UAW rep. in the plant. I know GM inside & out-can spot a union backer.
I,ve worked since I was 13. Lost a baby daughter. I have been blessed every day
YET being retired after Obama has been in-life is going to be hard. Harder everyday and for a long time.
Raised 3 strong sons. Strong men that would never disrespect anyone as I have
read in my short time here.
I respect God and Country. I answer to no mortal. Obama is doing a bad job. Vote him out. If Romney does a bad job=vote him out. We are broke. You can blame any one you feel you can. I know the truth about General Motors and why it went to Michigan. This Republic of America use to be strong. Now it is divided, disrespected and your posts show it. This relationship you feel we
women need with Obama is very odd. Very
strange this addiction you have with
him when he has done a poor job. BTW abortion is not birth control. BTW goggle does Medicare in Wisc. pay for abortions? Do your research. Medicare is to be used for the young, and the elderly. Yet, you are happy it is used to end a babies life when couples want to adopt. And you continue to blame the Governor or any Republican. Possibly, just possibly you could be wrong.

mouse, I do not know any women that spend any time worrying about free birth control pills or abortions. I think the economy is the top concern for most of them. If you cannot afford $9 a month then you can get them free at health net.

Oh, and one more thing. How we have to allow more tax-cuts for the rich so they can create jobs. You know the so-called trickle-down effect that never worked.

godishere:said "Why are there so many concerns about abortions?
The birth rate is down. Why is abortion a topic?
I lived through the REAL war on rights in the 60,s
=LaborParty=you are engaging in rights to deny
the life of babies?
Come out and tell the truth. Stop hiding behind
this option to live. What,s up? You must
be a man=thumping your chest for what?"

That's because Republicans use that as leverage to gain votes. Abortion and war.

Paul Ryan has earned a reputation for being pretty loose with the facts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlETrn2Z...

RAF: Yep, that is why I laugh at all these idiots who have yard signs, or vehicle stickers, to. Talk about a invitation to have your property vandalized , all the while promoting a sign that will change NO ONE's mind! Most of these national politicians are all part of an aristocratic society, and all of their family is isolated from the 'common man' all the while they could give a crap less about the common man they supposedly represent. Nonetheless every now and then a family member has to step out of the castle, and the pitch forks are often awaiting.

This is why many people prefer to be silent on political issues in public...

http://gazettextra.com/news/2012/oct/23/...

Paul Ryan has DONE nothing, has SAID absolutely
nothing, other than the fact that he likes to hear himself talk----what a JOKE!!!!

off topic, but amusing. Randy Hopper (R) is back in jail.

Oh-brother.........Truth=our grant was turned down.

Republicans in Congress have attacked the Democratic-sponsored $787 million economic-stimulus plan, but that hasn't stopped them from trying to get a piece of the action.

Today's Wall Street Journal has a story about a dozen or so Republicans who supported stimulus-funding requests submitted to various federal agencies.

One of those Republicans is U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), who has labeled the stimulus a "wasteful spending spree."

Using the Freedom of Information Act, the Wall Street Journal obtained letters from some Republicans supporting funding proposals.

In Ryan's case, he wrote a letter to the Department of Labor in support for a grant application that was submitted for an Energy Training Partnership Grant.

Ryan, who is traveling in the Middle East, could not be reached for comment. But a spokesman provided this statement: "If Congressman Ryan is asked to help a Wisconsin entity applying for existing Federal grant funds, he does not believe flawed policy should get in the way of doing his job and providing a legitimate constituent service to his employers."

As it happens, the grant application was rejected, the spokesman said.

Ryan for VP, Ryan for Congress - it's a lose-lose situation for Wisconsin, U.S.

Why are there so many concerns about abortions?
The birth rate is down. Why is abortion a topic?
I lived through the REAL war on rights in the 60,s
=LaborParty=you are engaging in rights to deny
the life of babies?
Come out and tell the truth. Stop hiding behind
this option to live. What,s up? You must
be a man=thumping your chest for what?

nomores: That is just the natural result of not being able to hide behind an online I.D.:) Which I REALLY hope ends with the new pay format. I can't wait to see the comments if you have to use your real name and/or your Facebook account to post a comment!!

Retired AirForce.
Find Obamas Egypt 2009 speech. Here is a portion. THESE are your goals?
******************************************

Here are his words on Nuclear power:

The third source of tension is our shared interest in the rights and responsibilities of nations on nuclear weapons.
This issue has been a source of tension between the United States and the Islamic Republic of Iran. For many years, Iran has defined itself in part by its opposition to my country, and there is in fact a tumultuous history between us. In the middle of the Cold War, the United States played a role in the overthrow of a democratically elected Iranian government. Since the Islamic Revolution, Iran has played a role in acts of hostage-taking and violence against U.S. troops and civilians. This history is well known. Rather than remain trapped in the past, I've made it clear to Iran's leaders and people that my country is prepared to move forward. The question now is not what Iran is against, but rather what future it wants to build.
I recognize it will be hard to overcome decades of mistrust, but we will proceed with courage, rectitude, and resolve. There will be many issues to discuss between our two countries, and we are willing to move forward without preconditions on the basis of mutual respect. But it is clear to all concerned that when it comes to nuclear weapons, we have reached a decisive point. This is not simply about America's interests. It's about preventing a nuclear arms race in the Middle East that could lead this region and the world down a hugely dangerous path.
I understand those who protest that some countries have weapons that others do not. No single nation should pick and choose which nation holds nuclear weapons. And that's why I strongly reaffirmed America's commitment to seek a world in which no nations hold nuclear weapons. (Applause.)
And any nation -- including Iran -- should have the right to access peaceful nuclear power if it complies with its responsibilities under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. That commitment is at the core of the treaty, and it must be kept for all who fully abide by it. And I'm hopeful that all countries in the region can share in this goal.

Motor your perception of my behaviors is interesting. I could ask what makes you ponder what I am doing, but to be honest, besides the creepy factor I don't really care. I could tell you the truth that I don't watch debates, but based on your history of posting messages on this site dealing with the truth is something you shy from anyway. One last thing, what kids are on sidewalks at this time of night in your neighborhood that makes you think there are any on mine?

Leave it to the local spin ogre to introduce red herrings of govt spending, by politicians of both parties, as an example of a corrective in political philosophy. Isn't there something you would rather say about big bird or binders as this fits your collective thought process of spin better this distractor?

RetiredAirForce said, "Zoom your inane attempt to compare apples to oranges exposes the vast difference between conservative thought and liberal largess."

As opposed to what, the vast difference between conservative largess and liberal thought?

A good example of conservative largess: Reagan/Bush I: National debt as a percentage of GDP increased from 33.3% to 65.9%; an increase of 97.9%.

A good example of liberal thought: Clinton: National debt as a percentage of of GDP decreased from 65.9% to 57.7%; a decrease of 12.4%.

A 97.9% increase versus a 12.4% decrease. Now that's a vast difference between conservative largess and liberal thought!

And feel free to go ahead and compare Reagan/Bush I to Obama. Conservatives won't like those numbers either.

Zoom your inane attempt to compare apples to oranges exposes the vast difference between conservative thought and liberal largess.

I desire a political system that takes power from the two party system, gives voters more choices, and limits seniority power to lifetime politicians. My desire for this change costs no money from you or anyone else. My desire for this change in no way changes my ability to exercise my constitutionally protected right to vote. Wanting this change, including wanting term limits, while still voting in the current process is hardly hypocritical. To be hypocritical I would need to say I won’t vote until change is done, but then still vote.

You on the other hand have claimed, repeatedly, that taxes should be higher (including your own) while never stepping up to do what you claim you want to happen; by paying more. Your desire is to take other people’s money (while faux claiming your desire to pay more) in some sham attempt at an emotional fairness.

This same misconception is seen in your mischaracterization of my comments on your candidate for local office. His statements reveal he, like you, has a desire to play to an emotional level of thought; regardless of common sense. He is campaigning on equal outcome when there is no such thing. He is also campaigning on getting money out of politics while this story is echoing his happiness of getting 1.8 million in donations. If he is going to "campaign" on a cause while doing the opposite I have little respect for him.

LaborParty
If U really believe abortion is a states right decision=that is the Republican stance. Remove
it from planned parenthood=put the funds into state funded medicaid.
Planned parenthood has no mammogram machines.
You more funds for medicaid, more funds for healthcare for the uninsured=put the federal money into medicaid.

With respect. Tax dollars can create a strong man. I have researched every aspect of this individual by removing Paul Ryan from the decision. Research where & how each man achieved
where he is. BTW vouchers have already been decided for SEARS after 2013. If U research the HHS bill 30 hours will be a full time job. U will pay for healthcare on 30 hours. I am on medicare, I stand behind my research on the bill.....No Government mandated healthcare for my Grandchildren. How,s the postal service doing? Medicaid pays $12,000 for abortions, please look it up. Just read the bill. Just research, it,s on U,r dime now. This decision doesn,t happen in a free country. Remember-full details on C-span? Sorry, my bad-the doors were closed. The Amish and Muslim faiths are excluded. UAW and other waivers from this run out. U should always read something before U buy it, or believe it. Romneys insurance? 60 pg. blue cross contract. NOTHING like this mandate.

tthompson, you're welcome, even though there is no need to thank me for that. I admire your candor. You strike me as a far more honest poster than the majority of posters on this site. I thank you for that.

RAF, I agree with everything you said in your 10:13 comment. And I believe that you would always believe that anyone with an "R" behind their name would be the person who is the least offensive candidate. Until you and others who think like that change that way of thinking little else matters. And yes, the same holds true for those who think the only thing that matters is the "D".

"no", yes and no. There is only one party right now that pretends to be the outsider, there is only one vice presidential candidate who people seem to think is some down-home anti-Washington, anti-establishment farm boy from Rock Co. Paul Ryan is the epitome of Washington and all that can be wrong with it. Not a huge fan of Biden either, to be honest.

*One of the reasons cited was that they are apathetic or not intellectually capable of discerning the issues and look for someone else to tell them what to think*

Are you saying this with a straight face? You do realize that 90% of the media slants the other way, right? And that their whole job is to tell people what to think...right?

*Who is a career politician who's only 'real' job his entire adult life has been knee deep Washington politics, special interest groups and lobbyists? *

Is the answer a former career Senator from Delaware?

About time? Wouldn't it be funny if, while running for two offices simultaneously Mr. Ryan would get neither?

Honestly - nothing against him - but aside from a lot of grandstanding that's put his name out there on a national level, what EXACTLY has Paul Ryan done for this congressional district?

"Ok, so YOU'RE telling me to vote Democrat, right?" NOT AT ALL. It was a point of
view stated in a study. I'm just saying inform yourself. Although, you do provide a good example of people not comprehending what they are reading.

19 months? Another guy with no job.

Pastafarian, if you "get screwed" go somewhere else. That's the beauty of private freedom of choice.
You think dealing with IRS is a picnic with taxes, try getting the Government to deal with you on healthcare. 15,000 IRS agents for Obamacare?

"Single payer results in death panels, hospital and doctor shortages. Government telling you what you are worth".
Yea Red, that's the insurance company bean-counters job. Don't you know? It's OK to get screwed by private corporations.

Hmm, a proven businessman running for office? Romney anyone?

Single payer results in death panels, hospital and doctor shortages. Government telling you what you are worth.

Let's tell the Government on November 6th what they are worth. Believe in America with Romney or believe in failed Europeon policies with Obama.

Red......If you're considering someone who is a successful businessman as a primary qualification for holding office, I would hope that you are voting for Romney......no?

As far as a government managed single payer HC system being more efficient and less expensive, how do you explain Medicare and all of it's financial troubles? How does $500 billion in waste and fraud equate to "efficient and less expensive"?

>>Fiscal Responsibility

Within days after taking office, he signed an Executive Order ordering an audit of government contracts, and combating waste and abuse. http://1.usa.gov/dUvbu5<<

And then proceeded to go on a 4-year-spending orgy thereby incinerating any cost savings.

So we have a certified job creator in Zerban – an entrepreneur who worked hard, made some wise business decisions and created not just one, but two successful businesses yet conservatives support the individual, Ryan, who’s never had a REAL job and never, ever created a job. Go figure!
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A single payer system holds each individual accountable for funding their health care. Everyone would be covered regardless of employment status. Conservatives don’t want it because it’s more efficient and less expensive.

oneday....That was classic! You call out Republicans for putting forth ignorant stereotypes, and then turn right around and perpetuate ignorant stereotypes that the Democrats typically fall back on.......all in the same post! What a tool..........

>>There was a study done by a Canadian University as to why middle class people vote Republican. One of the reasons cited was that they are apathetic or not intellectually capable of discerning the issues and look for someone else to tell them what to think.<<

Ok, so YOU'RE telling me to vote Democrat, right? I'm going to resist my proclivity to do what I'm told; therefore, I'll vote Republican. Thanks for helping me become an independent thinker.

Labor......republicans are "forcing the women in your family to have unwanted children"? Huh? There's this little thing called birth control that could easily prevent the women in your family from having to make the visits to the abortion clinic......Say it with me--"Personal Responsibility".....
I disagree with Ryan in in terms of the rape and incest provisions. They would never get past the legislature regardless. Definitely wouldn't be an issue to vote against him if I were in his district........

I learned more about Zerban in your article than I've heard from him. Just how well is a campaign being run if people don't know anything about him?

RAF wrote: 1)"...build a climate that allows anyone that works hard to achieve success." What, guaranteed success? How exactly does that happen, never mind he doesn't explain.

Zerban's sentence says nothing about a guarantee.

"2)"why my focus is on...getting money out of politics." Yet he is happy he raised more than 1.8 million; hypocrisy?"

No more hypocrisy than your decision to keep voting for a career politician, even though you support term limits.

There was a study done by a Canadian University as to why middle class people vote Republican. One of the reasons cited was that they are apathetic or not intellectually capable of discerning the issues and look for someone else to tell them what to think. I'm sure there is a segment that fit that opinion, as posts on this site have proven numerous times. Personally, I think that the Republicans have done a very good job of perpetuating the stereotype that all Democrats feel entitled, are lazy and want nothing but hand-outs. That's just what it is, a stereotype. Mitt Romney’s 47% statement further instilled that fallacy. Regardless, IMO middle class and lower income people who vote Republican don’t want to be perceived as such, so they vote Republican, even though it is detrimental to their own well being. They are successful because of hard work and diligence. There are millions of Democrats that are just as hard working and successful as Republicans, so to insinuate that Democrats are lazy, feel entitled and want hand outs is simply ignorant. I’m also sure a SMALL percentage fit the stereotype.

Desiring term limits, then voting for a career politician, is the same type of hypocrisy RAF describes when he says those favoring higher taxes should step up and simply pay more at tax time.

RAF: Just curious as what is most offensive to you about Obama leaving politics aside? I only ask because of your statement about people may only vote for the least offensive ...not the best candidate, which very well may be true. I'll tell you what the most offensive thing to me about Rommney is, and this goes back to the republican debates before he was nominated, was he came across to arrogant and disrespectfull to his own party. My first impression was he's a bully. It's a my way or the highway attitude. It wasn't the things he was saying, it was the way he was saying them. Do you know what I mean?

916WI very well stated.

Eagle......Sure, definitely to a degree. I never claimed Romney(or for that matter Obama) offered a clear and concise plan of how to pull the country out of the gutter after the pathetic "recovery" of the last four years. Concerning the presidential elections, there is a distinct choice that can be made based on the candidates histories in both the private and public sectors. Despite all of the rhetoric from both sides, there are obvious differences between the beliefs of the candidates. Personally, I am not a fan of labor unions, expanding entitlement/welfare programs which continue to drive the country into more and more debt, the thought that redistribution of wealth is a good idea....These are just a few of the things that a large percentage of voters will turn to in order to make a decision.....With Zerban, the only thing he offers us is that "I'm not the other guy" and that he wants a single payer HC system. I'm sure the guy could do a wonderful job catering a company picnic, but that's not going to win him many votes.

I'm w RAF on the sham of a two party system. We ALL should be. How to change tho??

Why only two candidates at the debate?? Where is Gary Johnson?? Why does the Green party candidate have to be arrested to get her name in the paper??

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/201...

Also nomores, thanks for not thinking I'm ignronant:)

Ha. I had the exact same thought Eagle:)

nomoreres the two party rules that run elections ensure their candidates the best chance of winning. Until election reform, if ever, is completed the system remains rigged which means most voters are left voting for the person least offensive----not the best candidate. Any change to an instant runoff, ranked choice, or similar would be a better system than we have now.

RAF: I wasn't calling you a hypocrite. You were talking about hypocrisy and I was just looking for your confirmation. Sorry if you mis-read that.

Like it or not, Paul Ryan is the definition of a career politician and I'm just curious where all the 're-elect no one' mojo went?? Anyone??

916WI, so you are saying his campaign is just... "i am better than the other guy, but don't ask me details"? sounds like Romney to me.

RAF, excuse me, I just realized that I misread your comment to Kid. You were referring to his ignorance, not yours. Please only consider my reference to your partisanship as I was mistaken about the ignorance portion of my comment. I also don't think Kid is that ignorant.

RAF, I don't know how Kid feels about your ignorance, but I don't think you're that ignorant. I think you're that partisan. And since you're that partisan (I believe), your idea about term limits could only apply to primary contests (if then).

Kid are your really that ignorant to think I should just vote for this guy because the other guy has been in for a long time, when this guy represents everything I oppose?

I am for term limits, for all politicians. I think that is a much needed change to the two party catastrophe now in place. That doesn't mean I would vote for this guy even if he ran unopposed. There is a vast difference between being an informed voter and just another tool.

The issue that I have with Zerban, is that his entire campaign seems to revolve around "I don't agree with what the other guy's policies are" while giving no specifics as to how he would resolve the problems facing his constituents. Even so, any clown that thinks a government managed single payer system is the way to go, has completely lost my support. We already have a government managed single payer system servicing a small percentage of our population that is anything but managed efficiently. $500 billion taxpayer dollars lost on waste and fraud. Expanding entitlements will be the downfall of our country.....

Wow. This guy used the sytem for a HAND UP as it should be. Gov't cheese, reduced lunches, aid for school. THIS is how the system should be used. His situation was beyond his control when he was a kid, but he made something of himself by STARTING NOT ONE BUT TWO BUSINESSSES. How is any of this bad?? If this guy had an R behind his name you would all be drooling over him.

Also, where exactly is that 're-elect no one' passion we had from a couple years ago?? I guess career politicians are OK if they're your guy, huh?? RAF...you were saying something about hypocrisy??

packolies - like all of the jobs obama has had

ah another rich white guy, the democrats are right that's all the GOP puts up, wait he's a Dem... oops I guess that criticism only works one way.

Smarter - Women are smarter then the left want them to be. They are paying attention and care much more then you give them credit for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_C...

According to Ron's website he is a supporter of a single payer system. The utter travesty this has brought to the English seniors is what Ron wants for the elderly from his district and our nation. No thank-you!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_C...
way_for_the_dying_patient

LaborParty, give it up. You're way off base and the Women's vote is swinging to Romney. Women are starter then to fall for old stale liberal scare tactics.
It's still about the economy.

To answer my earilier question. Headline is a comic strip.

He grew up poor in a single-parent home in Illinois, eating government cheese and subsidized school lunches, he says. Government aid sent him to culinary school

Safety net okay for Zerban but not for Paul Ryan. Liberal hyprocrisy continues.

He didn't build businesses. He didn't pull himself up.

He runs like a Republican with the exception of his communist single payer government controlling your life Tammy Baldwin extremist plan.

Other then that, give me your specific plans Zerban. Is you agenda a blank sheet like Obama's and Baldwin's?

Here are Rob's great ideas right from his web site

1)"...build a climate that allows anyone that works hard to achieve success." What, guaranteed success? How exactly does that happen, never mind he doesn't explain.

2)"why my focus is on...getting money out of politics." Yet he is happy he raised more than 1.8 million; hypocrisy?

This reminds me a lot of Compas running against Fitzgerald in the recall election, she got a ton of attention locally and even some nationally, but ultimately couldn't hold a candle to Fitzgerald in his district.

pose*

Sure, anyone who runs against Ryan can post a "credible" challenge, but he sure won't post a legitimate challenge.

From the picture he has at least 13 votes. I'm sure the local media will stir it up and portray it as if hundreds were there.

good luck

Who is a career politician who's only 'real' job his entire adult life has been knee deep Washington politics, special interest groups and lobbyists? Congress was never meant to be a full time job. It's time for Ryan to go.

Really? Who is Rob Zerban?
We know how he feels about Paul Ryan but I have no idea what he might do as a congresssman. Thankfully we will never know.

Is this a story, or a Zerban campaign ad????

Who's Rob Zerban?

wow the guy actually had a job unlike voucher boy.. he's got my vote

Headline doing double duty as a comic strip.

And I will add to wislady's comment, IMO, he got government handouts when he was a kid, and he still believes in those entitlements. And for the record, I am NOT bashing single parents. I have friends who came from single parent homes.

Who would have a better knowledge of financial matters, a graduate from the Culinary Institute of America, or the chairman of the House Budget Committee?

yada, look up the word "slander", please understand the definition before using the word. I'm sure Mr. Zerban has bigger fish to fry than some anonymous LIBEL (not slander, learn the difference) in a newspaper comment section.

Zerban comments on Ryan......

"whose entire career almost has been spent carrying water in Washington conservative politics"

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/ro...

"But now that his name is on this radical budget that calls for slashing student loans and essentially ending Medicare"

NOT true.

Says Paul Ryan’s budget plan "ends Medicare."

We rate Zerban’s statement Pants on Fire.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/stat...

It is time for Zerban stop making claims that are not true.

It figures that WISLADY would say something like that. Her lack of character has once again been shown by this forum comment. I will make sure that Rob is aware of your slanderous comment.

Ohhhh, Good American....you are such a sweetheart! Do you say those nice things to all your friends? You must be very popular!

"Ryan has spent the last two weeks campaigning on the taxpayers dime." We'll, maybe Zerban should be more concerned with Obama's campaigning on the taxpayers dime for the last four years! And I might add at a cost many many times higher!