Janesville Town Board to hold hearing on 'racetrack' road

By JIM LEUTE ( Contact )   Tuesday, Feb. 19, 2013
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What: Public hearing and possible board action on alterations to North Hackbarth Road between County E and Highway 14.

When: 5 p.m., Thursday.

Where: Janesville Town Hall, 1628 N. Little Court, Janesville.

— Elmer Brandt said he puts his life on the line every time he crosses North Hackbarth Road to get his mail.

Brandt lives in one of three houses along a 350-yard stretch of Hackbarth Road between County E and Highway 14 in the town of Janesville.

To the north, Hackbarth intersects Highway 14 at the Redwood Motel and newly constructed Fox Den Store-It.

To the south, Hackbarth intersects County E.

It’s that southern intersection that Brandt and others believe is a safety hazard.

The Janesville Town Board will hold a public hearing Thursday to discuss possible alterations to North Hackbarth Road, including its closure at County E.

“I have a heck of a time getting to my mailbox,” said Brandt, who lives in the first house after the intersection. “I can start crossing the road to the mailbox, and people come around that blind curve, which is banked like a racetrack, and I’m caught in the middle of the road.

“You don’t know which way to go.”

The northern segment of Hackbarth is a popular shortcut between County E and Highway 14, primarily for motorists coming from or going to Highway 14.

The problem for Brandt and his neighbors primarily rests with motorists traveling north on County E who use the Hackbarth Road shortcut.

A recent town traffic count on County E showed that of the 2,700 vehicles that travel north on County E each day, about 2,000 of them turn onto Hackbarth Road. The other 700 continue north on County E to its intersection with Highway 14.

The County E speed limit at the Hackbarth Road intersection is 55 mph. On Hackbarth, it’s 35 mph, a limit few drivers hit after making the turn onto Hackbarth, Brandt said.

“Most of them come around that blind turn and they’re going 45 or 50 mph,” he said.

Town board Chairman Ed Marshall said the town has struggled with a solution to the problem.

One option, he said, would be to create a 90-degree right-hand turn off County E to Hackbarth to slow traffic, but building a new road brings a challenging set of requirements and costs, he said.

Another option would be to further reduce the speed limits on County E and Hackbarth, but that would only work if motorists routinely respected speed limits, he said.

A final option—the one getting the most attention—is the closure of Hackbarth at County E. From the north and Highway 14, Hackbarth would end in a T-shaped turnaround that would accommodate school busses and snow plows.

“I’ve heard that there might be some opposition to that,” Marshall said.

An email flyer obtained by The Gazette encourages people to attend Thursday’s public hearing and voice opposition to the closure of Hackbarth Road.

Such a closure to a road used by hundreds of township residents each day would cost thousands of dollars, the flyer says.

In addition, the flyer continues, a closure would create a safety hazard for truck and trailer traffic out of the Fox Den storage business. Those vehicles would be forced to run left onto a busy Highway 14, then immediately slow and turn left again onto County E to access Janesville’s west side.

For his part, Brandt just wants to see slower traffic on Hackbarth Road.

“It’s like living in hell,” said Brandt, who has lost three mailboxes, has had his vehicle bumped after pulling out from his driveway and has witnessed one serious accident in the nine years he’s lived on Hackbarth.

“To live here just around this blind curve, you just don’t stand a chance.”

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lovemycountry
Feb 26, 2013 at 9:42 p.m.
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If Mr. Brandt considers country road traffic too fast, he may want to consider moving to town, instead of asking area taxpayers to spend thousands to either close or change a road.

jcommon
Feb 21, 2013 at 11:29 a.m.
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Janesvillean, I am sorry that I believe that 2000 dollars worth of stop signs will do just as good as a 250,000 dollar roundabout. But, hey carry on, it's not your money.

janesvillean
Feb 20, 2013 at 2:53 p.m.
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It is a bit silly to talk of Hackbarth as a "shortcut" when it's the original alignment. The road was straightened sometime around the 1940s or 1950s, probably because Cty E was designated as Business U.S. 14, leading traffic downtown. Now, though, the roads serve as access to the 14/26 retail hub, and most of the west side of Janesville wants to go that way.
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I'm not sure I agree with inconveniencing 2000 vehicles a day to please three homeowners, who are part of rural sprawl but obviously don't like the effects of rural sprawl on themselves. For example, there's a fourth option that would be creating a broader shoulder or pull-offs for the mailboxes, though I'm uncertain what the USPS/WisDOT rules are on that. There are of course engineering options ranging from speed humps to flashing yellow lights that might have an effect on driving speed.
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A 4-way-stop on Cty E would need approval by the County Board, of course. Both that and a roundabout would psychologically slow drivers somewhat, but in this case the roundabout doesn't actually solve a traffic conflict, so it's not a place I would recommend one. (Although, jcommon, I like recommending them just to annoy you and the other roundabout-haters. You make it so tempting!) But putting more stop signs in is the last thing planners want, because the more you have, the less attention people pay to them (it's proven by research, unfortunately).
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Of course, the real problem here is just plain traffic volume. You have a tiny residential section following a rural-speed highway section and getting people to slow down for that is a problem. The long-term solution is another river crossing north of Memorial, although traffic volume doesn't seem to be a problem on the bridge itself, and a lot of people would object to, say, extending Black Bridge Road across to Washington St. But that's just pie in the sky anyway.
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So let's say the traffic is forced to go around the triangle. The intersection of E and 14 is an acute one, even though it has a wide shoulder, and putting 2000 cars on that corner is probably going to cause problems THERE in terms of visibility. It's probably OK in terms of being an existing intersection, but any actual changes would make it fall under current guidelines and I'm not sure that a US Highway would allow such an acute intersection to be built today for safety reasons.
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So let me propose yet another solution. Give northbound vehicles a right-turn-lane. Put a median barrier in Hackbarth so people can't get into it without negotiating a narrow lane with a sharper turn. (Think of the setup at N. Franklin and N. Washington, where Riverview Clinic used to be.) This will have minimal effect on the delivery traffic from the storage facility and directly affect the traffic that is causing the most problems for these residents.

lovemycountry
Feb 20, 2013 at 2:23 p.m.
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Town of Janesville Board
Chairman Edward Marshall 608-752-4219
Supervisor Robert Mielke 608-754-0641
Supervisor Bruce Schneider 608-752-1106
Supervisor David Rebout 608-752-8253
Supervisor Gary Fox 608-752-5144

jcommon
Feb 20, 2013 at 1:37 p.m.
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Oh boy,
Stubby you understand that if you propose a 4 way stop, in a couple years, it will turn into a round-a-bout.

Stubby
Feb 20, 2013 at 1:02 p.m.
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Simple solution: Make the intersection with E and Hackbarth a 4-way stop. Cost of 2 new signs and installation - probably around $500. Problem solved.

JoyM
Feb 20, 2013 at 12:45 p.m.
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I don't know how flexible the PO is...there are people who have to cross Hwy 51 north of the jail to get their mail, which I think is just ridiculous because the traffic is heavy and always going at least 60. I know I would not buy a home with a mailbox located across the street, no matter what a good deal the property is. People use that Hackbarth shortcut because turning east onto 14 from the E intersection is a very tight corner and not easy if there is a lot of traffic.

papermember
Feb 20, 2013 at 7:44 a.m.
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The Janesville Postmaster would have to approve the mailbox move, which would require a route change, which would have to meet policy requirements, which would require approval from higher above. But, it might work. Mr Brandt, or Mr Marshall, should probably ask the Postmaster to consider the option. It is not unusual to change routes, when it benefits postal carriers' safety and efficiency. Terminating the road would require a route change anyway.

lumberjack754
Feb 20, 2013 at 7:26 a.m.
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Gopper beat me to the simple solution. put the mailboxes on the east side of the road. While i simpathize with the three homeowners, Dozens if not hundreds of people use that road everyday. I lived that way for many years, and my parents still do. To my knowledge i have never seen an accident on that stretch.

lovemycountry
Feb 19, 2013 at 7:59 p.m.
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Life in the country consists of higher speed roads, hills, corners, and mailboxes. If town government attempt to "fix" every unsafe mailbox crossing, future road changes will cover hundreds of mailboxes and a large amount of country roads.

wortnik
Feb 19, 2013 at 7:11 p.m.
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two really smart suggestions. (So of course they won't be considered?)

gopper
Feb 19, 2013 at 6:52 p.m.
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or move his mailbox to the other side of the road

stoutt66
Feb 19, 2013 at 5:50 p.m.
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Simple solution for you. Make Hackbarth road curve more to the north to limit the high speed turn and it also creates better vision for the cars turning onto county E.

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