Poll: Most see damage if US debt limit not raised

By ASSOCIATED PRESS   Thursday, Jan. 17, 2013
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This Nov. 16, 2012 file photo shows President Barack Obama, accompanied by House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, speaking to reporters in the Roosevelt Room of the White House in Washington, as he hosted a meeting of the bipartisan, bicameral leadership of Congress to discuss the deficit and economy. Most Americans think jarring economic problems would erupt if lawmakers fail to increase the government’s borrowing limit. Yet they’re torn over how and even whether to raise it, leaning slightly toward Republican demands that any boost be accompanied by spending cuts, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll.

This Nov. 16, 2012 file photo shows President Barack Obama, accompanied by House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, speaking to reporters in the Roosevelt Room of the White House in Washington, as he hosted a meeting of the bipartisan, bicameral leadership of Congress to discuss the deficit and economy. Most Americans think jarring economic problems would erupt if lawmakers fail to increase the government’s borrowing limit. Yet they’re torn over how and even whether to raise it, leaning slightly toward Republican demands that any boost be accompanied by spending cuts, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll.

— Most Americans think jarring economic problems will erupt if lawmakers fail to increase the government's borrowing limit. Yet they're torn over how or even whether to raise it, leaning toward Republican demands that any boost be accompanied by spending cuts.

According to an Associated Press-GfK poll, 53 percent say that if the debt limit is not extended and the U.S. defaults, the country will face a major economic crisis. An additional 27 percent say such a crisis would be somewhat likely, while just 17 percent largely dismiss the prospects of such damage.

Separately, Republican officials said Wednesday that GOP lawmakers may seek a short-term extension of the debt limit, thus avoiding a default as early as next month by the U.S. Treasury while they try to negotiate spending cuts with President Barack Obama over the next few months. "The worst thing for the economy is for this Congress and this administration to do nothing to get our debt and deficits under control," said Rep. Paul Ryan, the party's 2012 vice presidential candidate who is chairman of the House Budget Committee.

The poll's findings echo many economists' warnings that failure to raise the debt ceiling and the resulting, unprecedented federal default would risk wounding the world economy because many interest rates are pegged to the trustworthiness of the U.S. to pay its debts. Obama and many Republicans agree with that, though some GOP lawmakers eager to force Obama to accept spending cuts have downplayed a default's impact.

When asked which political path to follow, 39 percent of poll respondents support the insistence by House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., that deep spending cuts be attached to any measure increasing the debt ceiling. That's more than the 30 percent who back Obama's demand that borrowing authority be raised quickly and not entwined with a bitter fight over trimming the budget.

An additional 21 percent oppose boosting the debt ceiling at all.

The survey was conducted as the two parties gird for a debt-limit battle that is likely to dominate the next two months in the capital. The fight is sure to underscore partisan differences over how to curb federal deficits that have surpassed $1 trillion for four straight years. Obama insists that besides spending cuts there should be more tax increases on the wealthy, which the GOP opposes.

While saying he will refuse to negotiate on the debt ceiling, Obama has said he will bargain separately on finding ways to reduce the annual federal deficit.

Despite the majority in the survey who fear severe economic problems if the debt limit is not raised, in a separate question only about 3 in 10 supported the general idea of increasing the ceiling. Four in 10 opposed it, with the rest expressing neutral feelings.

Democrats were about twice as likely as Republicans to support boosting the borrowing limit, while Republicans were likelier than Democrats by a similar margin to oppose an increase.

The government reached its $16.4 trillion borrowing limit Dec. 31 but has avoided default by using cash from pension and other funds it administers, money that will eventually be replaced. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has said his ability to use such bookkeeping measures will be exhausted by early March or sooner.

Wayne Wiedrich, 46, an engineering inspector in Williston, N.D., said in a poll follow-up interview that he agrees that failure to boost the debt ceiling would risk severe problems.

"But on the other hand, it's not doing the economy any good to raise the debt limit, print money and spend money we don't have. One of these days China will come knocking on our door and say, 'We own you,'" he said, referring to the country that holds more U.S. debt than any other nation.

Homemaker Sherry Giordano, 59, of Feasterville, Pa., disagreed.

"It has to be done," she said of raising the borrowing limit. "We shouldn't risk our reputation or spend money and time arguing about it. We have to pay our debts."

The survey showed slight shifts in concerns about the economy and federal budget deficits. Eighty-six percent consider the economy a top issue, down 5 percentage points from last summer, while 76 percent have the same view on federal deficits, up 7 points since then.

Around one-third expect the economy to worsen over the next year, the highest figure in AP-GfK polling in nearly two years. Less than 1 in 4 think the economy is in good shape, a fairly stable number since last summer.

Despite the slight edge people give the GOP's debt limit path, the survey showed Obama with some advantages as he begins his second term.

Fifty-four percent approve of how he is handling his job, a figure that has changed little over the past year. That is more than triple Congress' 17 percent approval rating, which edged down 6 percentage points since early December, before the two sides' "fiscal cliff" fight ended with Republicans largely accepting Obama's demands to raise taxes on the country's highest earners.

Democrats also have a slight 41 percent to 36 percent advantage over Republicans as the party more trusted to handle the economy.

Both Obama and Congress have fallen in the public's esteem after their last battle over the debt ceiling.

In AP-GfK polling in June 2011, the president held a 52 percent approval rating. By August, it had declined to 46 percent after down-to-the-wire negotiations with Congress. Congressional approval ratings fell even further, from an already weak 21 percent in June to just 12 percent after the year's debt limit standoff finally ended.

When it comes to finding savings to balance the budget, nearly half prefer cutting government services as the GOP wants, 3 in 10 would rather increase taxes and about 1 in 10 would do both. The percentage backing cuts in federal services has dropped 13 percentage points since the spring of 2011, while the number supporting tax cuts has changed little.

The poll also highlighted how public support dwindles when people are asked about specific cuts.

Given four ideas for reducing budget deficits, only one got majority support: charging top earners higher Medicare premiums, backed by 60 percent. That included roughly even proportions of Democrats and Republicans, and majorities of all income groups in the poll.

Only 30 percent back slowing the growth of annual Social Security benefit increases, which Obama agreed to accept in failed talks with Boehner on crafting a deficit-reduction compromise during the "fiscal cliff" fight. Just 35 percent support gradually raising the current Medicare eligibility age of 65, and 41 percent support defense cuts.

The poll involved landline and cellphone interviews with 1,004 randomly chosen adults and had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. It was conducted from Jan. 10 to 14 by GfK Roper Public Affairs and Corporate Communications.

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HandBookHarry
Jan 21, 2013 at 7:27 p.m.
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Gary and welfare..just like Sonny and Cher....

prounion
Jan 21, 2013 at 4:59 p.m.
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Your economic principles are correct, but don't buy into the Reubs BS about this manufactured crisis - it is just politics and counter productive. Except of course for the Repubs if they think their easily led and fooled followers will buy into their pretending they don't spend a ton of money on their wars and corporate masters.

Eagle1
Jan 21, 2013 at 7:47 a.m.
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smallBIZowner and if they don't they will blamed for that as well. I would prefer to blame both parties for the mess since that is much closer to fact than the partisan idiocy that continues to dictate peoples actions.

smallBIZowner
Jan 21, 2013 at 7:09 a.m.
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The country is already $16.4 trillion in debt. If the Republican House raises it, then THEY will be to blame for any further debt.

Midnight_Ride
Jan 20, 2013 at 11:39 a.m.
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/whoo...

Whoops: PolitiFact's 'Lie of the Year' Turns Out to Be True

Why we don't trust Politifact liberals who post but don't actually read. Politifact has roughly 20-30 paragraphs of BS about someone's pants being on fire. You have to read the last three paragraphs to find out...yea..it's kinda true.

Most American's want the debt ceiling raised but HATE the debt. The headline is ...It's kinda true, but not really.

Benghazi Barry has of gift for deception and the media have a will of protection. American's should sift. The liberal low information voter must start empowering themselves with knowledge of their government before they have no more say in it.

RetiredAirForce
Jan 20, 2013 at 2:51 a.m.
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gary and knowledge...oxymoron.

garyprimer
Jan 19, 2013 at 10:26 a.m.
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Guns good, knowledge bad!

axolotlsx5
Jan 18, 2013 at 4:49 p.m.
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a good way to lower our debt everybody in goverment takes a pay cut, has to pay for health insuranse like i do. what makes the people who run the country any better then the common tax payer? and stop giving billions of $ away to every country that ask for help every year. we have homeless people in our own country but do nothing to help them, esp. the men and women who put their lives on the line to protect this country.

billnewbie
Jan 18, 2013 at 4:23 p.m.
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By what twisted logic and total disregard for basic economics does one say that borrowing ever more and more money for the foreseeable future is "paying our bills". Paying today's obligations with future obligations is a fool's errand that eventually makes you a slave to your creditors. Unless you think you can push the day of reckoning past your own life time, in which case you are a thief that steals from your own children who themselves will be enslaved in your stead.

Eagle1
Jan 18, 2013 at 3:41 p.m.
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whz_bng, I would take that at this point, but we are not going to be able to pay down the debt with that scenario, the debt will grow even if we run a budget surplus at this point. We continue to get the credit rating downgraded due in part to this. prounion at what point are you going to be honest and objective and see that both parties caused this and not just one. If you really think it is one sided and not looking at WHY this happened and what principles were the cause of this ( I will give you a hint it is the set your party promotes and the GOP acts on all while denouncing it... shameful)

prounion
Jan 18, 2013 at 12:37 p.m.
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Well thanks to their backwards efforts, which only occur when its the opposing parties president in office by the way, we will probably get downgraded again - which means higher interest rates and a larger problem. Genius Republicans.

whz_bng
Jan 18, 2013 at 11:52 a.m.
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eagle, they do not need to cut 50% to reduce the deficit. All that needs to be done is to hold the line on 2012 spending and not let the increases go thru on all spending as they do every year. Holding the line on budget increases however is called drastic cuts by the Libs.

Eagle1
Jan 18, 2013 at 11:42 a.m.
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Nothing is going to stop us from defaulting on our debt. We continue to spend money at an insane pace, we spend over .40 of every revenue dollar just to maintain the debt, that is unsustainable. Once countries like China are unable to manipulate their currency to buy up our debt we will really be screwed, that is going to happen sooner than later, so unless they are going to make drastic cuts in spending I am talking at least 50%, there is nothing that will stop complete disaster. So we have two choices we can bite the bullet now or push it down the road, the problem is none of our wonderfully elected 'leaders' want to be the ones to face reality and be held accountable, nothing new there. It will happen, get ready, protect yourself from a devalued dollar and skyrocketing inflation it will happen in our lifetime, kicking the can one more time will do nothing.

MBHammer
Jan 18, 2013 at 8:58 a.m.
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Ezoner, he's embarrassed, doesn't know how to wiggle out of this one.

Ezoner
Jan 18, 2013 at 8:39 a.m.
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Prounion -- what a farce -- Let me reword your bogus talking point

Republicans must use the debt limit to get Dems to open their eyes to the spending crisis leading us into default and collapse.

What I will say is that I see both parties as progressive today and both leading us down the path to a financial collapse. But there are people in the republican and in the democratic party that realize that a spending problem exists. They are just not in power within either party.

prounion
Jan 18, 2013 at 8:07 a.m.
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Republicans are allegedly so worried we won't be able to pay our bills in the future that they would like for us to stop paying our bills now.

whz_bng
Jan 18, 2013 at 8:05 a.m.
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Flip Flopping is now Obama's game... He said that raising the debt ceiling is a sign of failed leadership when he was in the senate. and he has raised it 6 times already, := failed leadership.

billnewbie
Jan 18, 2013 at 7:57 a.m.
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Quite true, Nemesis. But if you want to lead a pack of lemmings, it might behoove you to check over your shoulder to see how many are following you.

nemesis
Jan 17, 2013 at 6:46 p.m.
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Taking a poll to see the public's opinion of the law of gravity does not make it go away or make it more "fair". In the same way taking a poll to find the public's opinion about how this financial mess will affect us or who is at fault will not stop the headlights coming at us in the tunnel.

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