On Lake Geneva snuffs out smoking ban
Posted on January 15 at 5:31 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Janesville is not the only city with partial smoking bans as you put it. If I have to list bars, then apparently you have not visited any of those that are now smoke free. Meaning your making an issue about something that is already provided for in your community.
On Lake Geneva snuffs out smoking ban
Posted on January 14 at 3:14 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
The purpose of a bar is to provide an enjoyable environment for a group of people. Its been pointed out each bar caters to specific crowds to promote their bar over all others. Smokers as you pointed out are just one group, its not our fault that they hold more sway than nonsmokers.
If nonsmoking drinkers were so prevalent there would be many many more nonsmoking bars. Crawl out your holes and find the bars that were forced into nonsmoking establishments due to city ordinances for no smoking in restaurants. Then find out how their business has been since being forced smoke free creating the exact environment you advocate.
The grass is not always greener on the other side, simply put it will chase clients away from bars all together. Especially in bad weather which you tossed in our faces. This will only create more public intoxication complaints since they will in essence be loitering and littering due to the lack of butt containers. Look at the proximity of bars in town and the amount of people that bar hop. More people will wander the streets in good weather instead of driving.
On Lake Geneva snuffs out smoking ban
Posted on January 1 at 5:16 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I suppose a few points of interest are in order. Namely the toxic environment that people claim exists specifically in bars allowing smoking, in many other posts its been pointed out high concentrations of pollutants exist in everyones day to day lives that have no direct contact with smokers. Be it high fine particulate concentrations or any plethora of other bacteria/fungi that all create the same conditions as smoking not to mention chemical exposure at work. All these cause similar conditions directly attributed to smoke inhalation, since its the current scape goat like lead paint was 30 years ago.
To use an example someone said a cable guy, well they use wiring and anyone handling flexible plastic is exposed to lead. I rarely see anyone wash their hands who handle wires. If you don't believe me pick up an extension cord with the warning label still in tact and read up, I do find them in Xmas lights as well.
Your all still pots calling the kettle black, by condemning smoking and holding public drinking on a pedestal. Drinking in taverns increases drunken driving rates by an unfathomable amount by setting up the exact conditions that allow multitudes of people to leave after having maybe just one too many drinks. Simply put your trying to support drunken drivers in a "safe" smoke free setting... gimme a break.
So...I tell all you one more time make it illegal or set it free. Your simply making your own anti public drinking arguments while trying to win a crusade against smoking. Think before you type, and sorry in advance for regurgitating arguments I brought up over a year ago since everyone got silly.
On Lake Geneva snuffs out smoking ban
Posted on December 27 at 4:28 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
If the baby lights up first I am all for smoking around them.
Its simply a courtesy. You don't smoke at your non smoking friends house and they don't complain when they come visit you smoking in yours its about manners.
Simply put smoking is expected in specific places such as bars and bowling alleys. It doesn't stop an owner from saying they don't want it in their house/establishment. Its your choice to come there.
There have been multiple arguments expressed in the last 2 years with multiple solutions that let bygones be bygones. The only problem is that people like to power trip and control everyone. Instead of just looking out for themselves and effecting change in their immediate area.
You can't be everywhere at once, and not everyone is welcome everywhere they want to go. So trying to control an entire city or state based on the use of a legal substance is oppression. That runs counter to the interests of a, supposedly, free society not to mention the laws set in place when it was formed.
Regulating is great if it creates areas for all members of society, banning anything legal is petty and wrong. Make it illegal or set it free.
On Texas students pack bookbags; teachers pack heat
Posted on August 26 at 2:22 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
If everyone has a gun, no one is going to start breaking laws. They would be too afraid everyone is going to pull out their weapon and object.
On Officer won’t be cited in squad crash
Posted on August 25 at 4:42 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Everyone knows or at least understands officers get away with more than the standard citizen. Should their be a double standard no, is there a double standard...
But they are trained to handle their vehicles better than the avg person. Having the privilege of riding in a few cop cars after they were retired, and knowing a few cops I can tell you the quality of parts that go into a squad are better than most cars. The brakes suspension and tires give a deceptive ride to the vehicle. Making it easy to travel fast in comparison to your personal vehicle.
Besides, if you drive around Janesville people driving 10-15mph over the limit seems to be normal. This means that anyone with a little experience driving in town would know to take a couple looks before turning.
Which is why it reverts to whatever reprimand the PD gives. On the job and off the job are 2 different things.
On Officer won’t be cited in squad crash
Posted on August 25 at 1:02 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Its common practice for cops to position themselves to assist fellow officers in any situation. If a cop pulls over a car a 2nd cop always drives by. If the car has more than one occupant at least 2 squads stop. If a single cop responds to a disturbance there is always radio confirmation of when the cop arrives and a check after they contact the residents.
So rushing to get there is reasonable. Use of the lights and not sirens you would figure is common sense anytime your doing your duties. But I refer you to Officerfriendly1 post about driving too fast for conditions.
Even in the winter cops are not ticketed for accidents in icy/snowy conditions. Even last year there was a walworth county cop that rear ended a vehicle at a stop sign. I have no idea what form of internal reprimands take place. When officers have these things happen to them. But its not ignored.
I simply refer you to the cause of the accident, and the problem with most drivers, I thought I had time to make my turn. If your in a rush or not paying attention then your a hazard on the road. Just yesterday, a minivan pulled out in front of the car I was in. We were on afton road traveling at 45mph, we were about 50ft from the van when it pulled out in front of us.
There have been countless times the same thing has happened on Milton ave. When your doing 40mph coming into an intersection where you have a green and a person decides to take a right, which sometimes is fine if they stay in their own lane, but they will merge all the way across right in front of you as your crossing the intersection at the posted limit.
To sum it up keep it simple keep it safe, an extra 10 seconds of waiting will not kill you. A snap decision of me 1st can kill you, at the very least delay you a lot longer. Everyone needs to learn some patience while driving.
Posted on August 19 at 11:42 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
You mean missing out on gas being $100 a gallon? Sign me up, 12 years ago gas was 1/4 the price it was now, smokes were 1/3. Overall prices on everything have doubled. But the avg wage has not doubled.
God forbid anyone wants to miss out on the end.
Posted on August 18 at 7:01 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
No I don't get it. Smoking forever only drops an avg of 7 years off a persons life. That is smoking a pack a day your whole life. That includes the second hand smoke you inhale while your smoking.
But your concerned about an infinitesimal time, in comparison to those smokers, nonsmokers are exposed to it. Lets see that would be 70 vs 77 years of life. That is what 9.1% for an entire lifetime of smoking. Assuming its a pack a day habit, over a 10 hour period, though most are over an 14-18 hour period. That avg is 2 smokes an hour.
Lets assume you spend 2 hours a day around a smoker. That means you get to smoke about 20% of that amount. So your looking at 1.4 years of your life lost on an avg from being around a smoker for 2h a day your entire life.
That is 14h a week, and god forbid you spend 14h a week at a smoke filled bar you would be an alcoholic, with a greater risk of developing cancer from the alcohol. I refer you to some point in the posts below about alcohol related cancer risks.
So yes please oh please draw me a picture or something about how the bad smokers affect your life. That banning smoking in bars will change. Everywhere else you can have smoke free, most smokers don't care about smoking anywhere else. Except maybe outdoor stadiums.
Page 1 of 27 | Next
On Lake Geneva snuffs out smoking ban
Posted on January 15 at 8:07 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Lack of an example does not an argument make. For arguments sake, take Tilley's here in Beloit. Forced non smoking due to their restaurant that has been in business for well as long as I can remember, so over 30 years. In a city coveted by out of state smokers jumping the stateline.
This sole business is your poster child. A place with a good reputation that does well, so well it owns its own delivery cars. It sits in a city that allows smoking in bars and has an influx of customers looking to smoke. This would create an island for nonsmokers to come and socialize in a smoke free environment.
Simply put their bar business has tanked. Meaning your coveted smoke free environment is a farce.