On Airport looks at commuter flights for GM workers

Posted on November 20 at 11:03 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

"Just be glad that it's Kansas City and not Iraq or Afghanistan. What a bunch of ingrates."
Just so I didn't misunderstand, who are the ingrates?

On Rural church is gone, but its spirit lives on in its members

Posted on November 17 at 12:55 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Yes it WAS a beautiful story, full of special meaning to those who knew this church. Pro recognized that and said only that. Lets not ask for dissention where there is none. Even Gazettefan once commented on the peacefulness (or similar) of church bells. Let's celebrate our common ground, then maybe we can eventually understand each better, or at least get along better.
Wish I'd seen it from the inside, I love those little old churches.

On Gospel Fest: ‘You’ve got to work the stage’

Posted on November 16 at 1:19 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

PERFECT post, maxdetail. Every word. You took the words right out of the back of my mind where they waited to be put together in such a cohesive way. But your account was so apt that I read it several times, savoring your perfect description of their obsessive haranguing. Bravo!

On Milton man arrested after standoff

Posted on November 15 at 3:28 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

ummm, lovethemidwest, do you really think either president had anything to do with this small town man's probable mental health problems?
And cardtrader-"something in the water in Milton" ? I think whatever finds its way in to this man's water also finds its way into the water of a relative number of people in any city, county, state....
And as to the first 2 comments, I'm thinking it would be ridiculous to not to realize that some problems Obama will face will have been years in the making while others might come from missteps he could make himself. The main thing is, he is our president so we should hope (and pray if you are inclined to) that in the end he will have done whatever it takes to pull our country through whatever hard times we are and will be facing. Do you really think that he (or Bush for that matter) would purposely do it differently? For the sake of causing us problems? To what end?
But I'm afraid it won't change last night's incident in Milton.

On Give thanks by helping neighbors in need

Posted on October 30 at 8:10 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

vatoloco, That's a wonderful and generous gift from you and your family. Maybe you'll plant a seed of an idea in others. I know for a fact that lately there have been several students, and adults as well, who have asked for donations to food pantries in lieu of gifts at their own birthday celebrations. It allows everyone to have their cake, eat it too, and feed a few others in the process. An early Merry Christmas to you and yours!

On Fifth Quarter offers kids an alternative in a Christian setting

Posted on October 30 at 7:58 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

partarican1, Get over yourself. I am not some tyranical freak trying to undermine your lack of religion. You posted a negative response to what WAS an article related to a perfectly legal Christian event; something you don't really care for. Your right and privilege, but they don't really care what you think because the article writer didn't ask for a vote on whether or not to allow this activity.
If your point is "there are other activities that are safe for kids in Janesville that don't involve religion", that's wonderful. Bring them to the attention of the community without taking away from information that is helpful to others.

So let it rest. I'm sure getting tired of all the off topic nonsense.

Ahhh, that was easy. (With a nod to Staples) It was almost as if I took the words right out of someone's mouth. (so please excuse spelling/grammar errors. Besides, these aren’t college theses-despite the length of my own posts.)

On Fifth Quarter offers kids an alternative in a Christian setting

Posted on October 30 at 7:56 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

The story itself: I love seeing when someone, anyone, works hard to make these activities available to our youth, the elderly, families....they don't need to make time available for worship (unless the setting is appropriate and desired by the entire group). If they are freely attended, though (not mandatory in other words) and that is part of the program...then those who wish to participate should not be judged for doing so. In other words, in that case...what's it to ya?

On Fifth Quarter offers kids an alternative in a Christian setting

Posted on October 30 at 7:55 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

prounion, thanks for the invitation, but I don't need to debate with you. I've lived my life understanding that everything I believe needs to be studied with a fine-toothed comb from a neutral viewpoint-not as just a believer, or not as (from) a non-believer, but with an open mind. Like when I bought my house, I don't trust just my realtor or banker to guide me; they have ulterior motives, nor competing realtors trying to sell me different houses than the one I want. I’m no expert; I don't rely entirely on my own relatively limited knowledge either. (This is an analogy; please substitute "selecting a belief system”, “Pastor”, and “professed atheist” appropriately. Would your invitation be “That house is worthless, let this complete stranger tell you why.”?). I would much rather rely on neutral information for understanding of what I'm "getting myself into". A lawyer/inspector might qualify when I buy a house; courses of study of world religions from a neutral perspective might qualify when discussing MY religious beliefs. That's basically what I did. I have not been indoctrinated since birth, but my life has run the gamut (experience-wise); I have come to be where I am on my own. I DON’T live in fear as some suggest believers do. Now, if we’d ever meet in a Biblical studies class, (church led and/or in a public/private educational facility) and you were as open minded as I've tried to be, I’d welcome friendly exchanges with you on a non-judgmental level. I don't know how others feel; read into it what you like, but this isn't a good forum for such deep personal convictions. I don’t have the time/inclination to watch for and read all posts just so missing a question won't be seen as acquiescence.

On Fifth Quarter offers kids an alternative in a Christian setting

Posted on October 28 at 9:49 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

partarican1, “Proved your point”? That was an attack? I beg to differ. I'd call it a defense from attack. Which part was attack as opposed to defense? You said Christians, unlike your children, come in and attack others who are self-proclaimed atheists. These articles are apparently written informationally for Christians or others who might partake, wouldn’t you say? Or do you really think they’re fodder for attacks? (Well, that could seem apparent to some.) Each time there is a gazettextra article pertaining to religious activities in the area, there is a core group of fanatics who come in and begin to rip apart the people and activities mentioned, as well as those who comment positively on the story. Check them out-there is never a good opportunity for those interested (in a good way) in the article to have a good exchange of ideas without being called ignorant, blind, or worse. It surely takes away any desire to exchange thoughts when you know what's coming. I have lived/worked/played my entire life side by side with all sorts of people; people with and without religious convictions, and have been exposed to many different lifestyles, and I have never, ever personally seen anything like the religious intolerance I've seen since the Gazette provided these open forums. Naive? More like I've been fortunate enough to have been exposed to tolerant people I guess? But, as I’ve said, I've been far from isolated and insulated from most every kind of people. I would have never dreamed that there are people around who think the little old church ladies getting together to make quilts for Christmas baskets, or the ladies providing food in a church hall for the families who've lost a loved one, or the kids/adults working through their church on a Habitat house were considered to be aiding and abetting an evil entity.

On Fifth Quarter offers kids an alternative in a Christian setting

Posted on October 27 at 9:06 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

partarican1, you stated "They (your children) do not judge people for their beliefs, as many christians do, and these posts support this fact." You're being sarcastic, right? This (and every other article about anything remotely connected with a church, God, religion, on the same street as a church, church bells....) is always immediately invaded by atheists and their insulting putdowns of anyone remotely connected with a church, God, religion, living on the same street as a church, church bells....and insult their intelligence, their families, their intentions, and their lifestyle. If those people who should have a genuine interest in the contents of the story because it IS their lifestyle makes comments in their own defense (as if they should really have to) YOU and your co-rabble rousers have the nerve to say the Christians are judging these detractors? Please explain to me what I must have misunderstood.

You also said "Can't anyone sponsor an event without involving christianity? Kids can have fun and stay out of trouble without church sponsored activites." You bet they can-it just happens that those dastardly churches keep trying to sway them away from....well....you tell me. Poverty? Boredom? Misery? Who complains if someone offers a decent, secular activity for teens? Can't there be alternatives for either? Do Christians get on the story of the activities the secular community has provided and bash those secular activities? Should those churches offering the space and time rent other accommodations so that it doesn't take place in those buildings that some of you love to hate? Why? It's being offered freely! (Ok-2 bucks for pizza and whatever...) Does the Pipe give out free food, or let you in if you don't have the $7?

In other words, this article apparently wasn't expected to appeal to some of you-but you commented anyway. You all usurped another one! Enlighten me, what's wrong with this story in and of itself?